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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03500	A sermon of obedience especially vnto authoritie ecclesiasticall, wherein the principall controuersies of our church are handled, and many of their obiections which are refractorie to the gouernment established, answered, though briefly as time and place could permit: being preached at a visitation of the right worshipfull M.D. Hinton,in Couentry. By Fran: Holyoke.	Holyoake, Francis, 1567-1653.	1613 (1613)	STC 13623; ESTC S115476	21,457	38

There are others which are different in several places countries as that some fast on the satterdaies some do not some receiue the cōmuniō every day some satterdaies sondaies only some on sondaies only some at set times Totū hoc genus habet liberas observationes nec est disciplina ulla in his rebus melior gravi prudentique viro quam ut eo modo agat quo agere viderit ecclesiam adquamcunque forte devenerit Quod enim neque contra fidē neque contra bonos more 's iniungitur indifferenter est habendū pro eorum inter quos vivitur societate seruandum est All things of this kinde are free to be observed as the particuler churches shall thinke good neither is there in these things any better rule to a graue prudent man thē that he behaue himselfe so as the church doth vnto which hee shall happyly come For that which is enioined if it be nether against faith nor manners is to be held indifferent ought to be observed according as they do in place where wee liue Then he sheweth that his mother cōming vnto him to Millain shee found that the church there did not fast on the satterdaies shee began to be troubled and to doubt what shee might doe Then saith he for her sake I went vnto S. Ambrose and asked his councell touching this matter he answered me that hee could teach me nothing but that thus he did himselfe and if he knewe better he would rather obserue it When as I thought that hee would haue yeelded me no other reason but his owne authority he proceeded and saide vnto me when I come to the church of Rome I fast on the satterday and when I am here I doe not Sic etiam tu ad quam forte ecclesiam veneris eius morem serua si cuiquam non vis esse scandalum nec quenquam tibi So thou also vnto whatsoever church thou cōmest follow the orders thereof if thou wouldest not scandalize any nor haue any to offend thee When I had tolde this to my mother shee was satisfied Ego vero de hac sententia etiam atque etiam cogitans ita semper habui tanquam eā coelesti oraculo susceperim sensi enim saepe dolens gemens multas infirmorum perturbationes fieri per quorundam fratrum contentiosam obstinationem superstitiosam timiditatem qui in rebus huiusmodi quae neque scripturae sanctae autoritate neque universalis ecclesiae traditione neque vitae corrigende vtilitate ad certum possunt terminum pervenire tantum quia subest qualiscunque ratiocinatio cogitantis aut quia in sua patria sic ipse consuevit aut quia ibi vidit ubi peregrinationē suam quo remotiorem à suis eo doctiorem putat tam litigiosas excitant quaestiones ut nisi quod ipsi faciunt nihil rectum existimant I often revolving in my minde this saying of S. Ambrose haue alwaies accompted of it as if so be I had received it by an oracle from heaven For with sorrow griefe I haue oftentimes found that many weake on s haue beene sore troubled through the contentious obstinacy and superstitious feare of certaine brethren who in those things which neither by the autoritie of the holy scripture nor by the generall tradition of the Church nor for the vtilitie of amendmēt of life can be brought to any certaine ende only because some make some curious scruple in their mind either because they haue vsed otherwise in their own country or because they haue seene another maner vsed in places where they haue travelled which by how much the more it bee remote by so much the more they doe esteeme it doe stirre vp such contentious questions that they thinke nothing right but what they doe thē selues And epist 86. to the same effect In his rebus in quibus nihil certi statuit scriptura diuina mos populi Dei vel instituta maiorū pro lege tenenda sunt Here S. Austine teacheth a farre better lesson touching offence observance of orders of the Church thē many amongst vs wil learne Ob There are that holde some of the ceremonies of the Church lawful but deny obediēce to some other as some approue of kneeling at the communiō but deny the rest sōe allow wearing the surplis burial of the dead yea the ring in marriage too but not the crosse in baptisme c. Ans This very argument is that which convinceth themselues for a man may reason thus against them Those ceremonies which the falsly named Puritans hold to be lawfull may and ought to bee vsed of every one according to their place in the Church But the Puritans so called doe allow all the ceremonies established in the Church The assumption of this argument is proued by induction of particuler examples amongst themselues who some allowing one some another they do vnwittingly in their diuersities allow al and yet all agree in the generall point of disobedience to the ceremonies of the Church There are some out of pride betake themselues to this disobedience for singularities sake and many seeing that in this florishing time they had neither learning pietie nor any tolerable gifts to commend themselues thinke by their refractarinesse to grow into note for the people desire novelty and no novelty pleaseth them better then that which tendeth to disobedience and let any one put on this person he pleaseth the people becommeth famous must needs be learned holy haue al vertues in him Some also by this meanes haue enriched themselues and made a gaine of the time haue suffered a little losse to haue a tenfold greater gaine in collections contributions insomuch that some of thē being before poore pedants are now becōe rich vserers And though some haue lost much yet many others haue gained much more Now when the reward of disobedience shal be greater then the recōpense of obedience disobedience being it selfe so pleasing a humor it must needs oversway many The learneder sort I perswade my selfe doe especially deny their obedience vnto the orders of the Church because they themselues haue formerly spoken and preached against them cannot now without offense to their people whome formerly they haue so instructed practise the contrary else some of them haue professed that to preach the Gospell in an vnknowne place they could bee contented to vse them There is another sort which are neither hot nor colde yeeld obedience and yeeld not obedience humor al parties and stand in the middle betweene two opinions That if the gouernement of the Church should be altered according to the practises of many men they might say they were ever of that minde and therefore seldome or never vsed the ceremonies but whē they were vrged nay spake against them privately and publikely as far as they durst yea humored and most esteemed such men as did wholy deny the lawfulnes of them and if the state