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A39521 Questions preparatory to the better, free, and more Christian administration of the Lords Supper by E.F., Esq. Fisher, Edward, fl. 1627-1655.; Fisher, Edward, fl. 1627-1655. Christian caveat. 1655 (1655) Wing F1000; ESTC R14629 3,980 10

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21 23. The Third time was after His Supper and is mentioned by S. John when saith the Text the Disciples looked one on another doubting of whom He spake till at length Peter beckned to John and John thereupon said unto Christ LORD who is it Unto which Christ replied in Speciall terms He it is to whom I shall give a sop when I have dipped it and when He had dipped the sop He gave it to Judas Iscariot * John 13. v. 2 21 22 24 25 26. And if so Then whether such Expositors doe not miserably confound as well the Gospel as themselves who distinguish not these times † Distingue tempora tollitur dubium but make them all one and without warrant of Scripture talk of Christs Institution of His Supper after the Sop given to Judas Whether to teach that the giving of the Sacrament to an unworthy Receiver is all one as to put a knife into a mans hand to cut his own throat be not to reproach the Institution of Christ and to make themselves His Reformers And whether to teach that the unworthy Receiver eateth and drinketh the Ministers damnation be not repugnant to S. Paul who saith that he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh his own damnation 1 Cor. 11. v. 29. Whether to call and adjudge those to be Dogs Swine Hypocrites Heathens and unworthy Receivers who submit themselves to Christ's Doctrine and Ordinances who doe openly witnesse to the world their true and earnest repentance of their sinnes their love and charity with their neighbours and their intention to lead a new life according to GOD's Commandements be not a rash vain uncharitable censure neither agreeable to Scripture nor reason And whether to term Infants Fools and Mad-men Dogs can be warranted by Scripture And whether to teach that Christ as he was man knew not that Judas was an Hypocrite yet that the Suspending Ministers may discern an Hypocrite be not to advance their knowledge above Christs And whether such doctrine be not blasphemy Whether to call Ministers Fathers Pastors and Shepherds be not Tropicall expressions And whether may sound and forcible Demonstrations be deduced from Tropes and Figures Whether is this a good reason Because it is the Duty of Fathers to require an accompt of their Children and of Pastors and Shepherds to know the state of their flock Therefore Ministers may Suspend whom their conscience shall judge unfit from the Lord's Supper Whether are they Fathers and Shepherds to Christs Flock who account His Children Dogs and refuse to give them the Food appointed by Christ Whether the Designe of these Suspending Ministers in preaching up the excellency worth and necessity of receiving the Sacrament of the Lords Supper and withall their power of keeping the unworthy from it be not the higher to advance their persons and authority amongst the people And whether the Ministers Authoritative Examination of the Receiver be not a Ground and Inlet to that tyrannicall-unchristian yoke of Popish Private Confession Whether the Givers of the Sacrament ought not to be qualified as well as the Receivers And whether they be fit Givers thereof who apparently to the whole World are swollen up ready to burst with avarice pride uncharitablenesse Who make it a light matter to wrest GOD's Holy Word and when they please to deny it Who reject the testimony practice power and authority of the Holy Catholick Church by consequence have renounced their very Creed Who if antient are notoriously perjur'd in the manifold breach of their Ministerial Oathes and if Novices they preach before they be sent unlesse without President of Scripture and contrary to the Practice of all Apostolick Churches the Ministers of six or eight Parishes met together of their own heads may lay on hands and devoutly Ordain whom and as many as their Wisdomes think fit And by the same reason why may not the Constables of six Parishes meet together and there gravely elect a Constable for the seventh Parish or for as many Parishes as their Wisdomes please Are Constables so elected Lawfull Constables And are such Ministers as these Lawfull Ministers Whether are such Ministers as these fit Givers of Christs most Holy Sacrament Let Conscience let Reason let even Turks and Indians speak Halelu-Jah