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A61550 The doctrine of the Trinity and transubstantiation compared as to Scripture, reason, and tradition. The first part in a new dialogue between a Protestant and a papist : wherein an answer is given to the late proofs of the antiquity of transubstantiation in the books called Consensus veterum and Nubes testium, &c. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5589; ESTC R14246 60,900 98

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