Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	church_n	primitive_a	2,508	5	9.0550	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85312	Of schism. Parochial congregations in England, and ordination by imposition of hands. Wherein Dr. Owen's discovery of the true nature of schism is briefly and friendly examined, together with Mr. Noyes of New England his arguments against imposition of hands in ordination. / By Giles Firmin, sometime of new England, now pastor of the Church at Shalford in Essex.	Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697.	1658 (1658)	Wing F958; Thomason E1819_1; ESTC R209761	90,499	170

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 3._o as_o the_o church-member_n consist_v of_o body_n as_o well_o as_o soul_n which_o body_n must_v be_v provide_v for_o by_o other_o if_o they_o have_v not_o of_o their_o own_o to_o uphold_v they_o and_o since_o god_n have_v give_v in_o charge_n that_o collection_n shall_v be_v make_v for_o the_o poor_a since_o also_o there_o be_v divers_a thing_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o thing_n about_o the_o church_n which_o must_v have_v money_n to_o buy_v they_o and_o to_o answer_v for_o they_o hence_o it_o stand_v with_o right_a reason_n that_o a_o officer_n be_v choose_v and_o authorize_v to_o be_v the_o church-treasurer_n to_o take_v in_o these_o collection_n and_o money_n and_o by_o these_o to_o serve_v the_o poor_n table_n the_o lord_n table_n i_o conceive_v they_o have_v their_o love-feast_n at_o that_o time_n also_o and_o why_o they_o shall_v not_o attend_v upon_o the_o minister_n at_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n i_o know_v 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