Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	church_n	primitive_a	2,508	5	9.0550	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A36261	Two short discourses against the Romanists by Henry Dodwell ...	Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711.	1676 (1676)	Wing D1825; ESTC R1351	55,174	261

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