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A93131 The Quakers wilde questions objected against the ministers of the Gospel, and many sacred acts and offices of religion. With brief answers thereunto. Together with a discourse [brace] 1. Of the Holy Spirit of God, his impressions and workings on the souls of men. 2. Of divine revelation, mediate and immediate. 3. Of error, heresie, and schism: the nature, kindes, causes, reasons, and dangers thereof: with directions for avoiding the same. All very seasonable for these times. / By R. Sherlock, B D. at Borwick-Hal in Lancashire. Sherlock, R. (Richard), 1612-1689. 1655 (1655) Wing S3255; Thomason E858_1; ESTC R203556 215,435 300

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to be made speak for both sides whither shall we have recourse for satisfaction but to the ancient Churches of Christ in which the Apostles converst from thence to hear what the truth is viz. Quid Apostoli quid primi fideles quid corum successores c. what the Apostles what their Disciples and successors what the primitive Saints and Martyrs Councels and Fathers have received taught and delivered unto others For what came the word of God out from you or came it unto you only 1 Cor. 14.36 Since the Word of God comes not first to us but by and from the Church it is delivered it followes that the sense and meaning of Gods word must not spring from our own heads but to be by and from the Church delivered together with the word The learned Doctor Whittaker in his disputes against the authority of the Church Whit. de sac Q. 3. con 1. c. 2. Dupl advers Staplet as it is by some Romanists preferred before the authority of holy Scriptures doth yet acknowledge these four offices in the Church in order to the Scriptures 1. That the Church is the Register and conserver of the Scriptures 2. The Judge both to discern and define what Scriptures are Canonical and what Apocryphal 3. To be the promulgator or publisher of them to all its members the people of God where ever dispersed over the face of the earth And 4. To be the interpreter and expounder of them and in these respects to contemn or neglect the Ministry and Testimony of the Church is the way to erre from the faith saith he to rush into certain destruction And in these cases I may very well adde the words of our Lord He that will not hear the Church let him be unto thee as a Heathen or a Publican Mat. 18.17 CHAP. XII Three inferences hence appliable to the general subject of the whole discourse ANd now if we lay all these together The knowledge of Tongues and Languages of History and Antiquity of Arts and Sciences as Rhetorick Logick natural and moral Philosophy of the Analogie of the true Faith and of the Doctrine of the Church Councels and Fathers all which do appear necessary to the right understanding of holy Scriptures we may very well hence infer 1. That the work of the Ministry in the interpretation of the Scriptures is not so slight and easie a business as too many persons now a daies make of it And they who can so easily run from the plough to the pulpit and from the meanest trades and employments of the world to intermeddle with the most sublime and celestial mysteries of godliness who pretending to the Spirit and yet have not these gifts of the Spirit and to divine Revelation being altogether devoid and destitute of the means thereof do thereby become vain in their imaginations liable to strong delusions giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of Devils and that for want of learning 1 Tim. 4.1 which they do therefore despise only because they want it they do pervert and wrest the Scriptures to their destruction And 2. That 't is not immediate Revelation we must depend upon for the right understanding of holy Scriptures since these several parts of what is called humane learning hath appeared necessary thereunto for otherwise 't was in vain that 1. The Apostles of Christ which at the first were illiterate should be extraordinarily and miraculously endued with the gifts of learning 2. That such persons should be called both ordinarily and extraordinarily to the Prophetical office as were eminent for learning and knowledge not immediately infused but by their studies and industry and Gods blessing thereupon acquired 3. That it were also in vain we should be commanded to hear read study meditate seek search and dive for knowledge 4. That in vain also hath God of his great mercy afforded us the writings directions and instructions of holy and learned men in all ages 'T is an undeniable truth that Deus natura nihil faciunt frustra There are no arts of the divine Providence useless and unprofitable But as God of his great mercy is never wanting to give what is needful so of his great wisdome he is never lavish in giving more then is needfull Vnumquodque propter operationem suam God hath made all things for their uses every book and every writing of the learned orthodox and holy and every tongue and every science in every such book is for the manifestation of some truth and the profit of some soul That I am sure is the end of Gods Spirit thereby what ever may be the end of mans For the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall 1 Cor. 12.7 3. And thirdly we may very well hence infer also that 't is an over bold rash and saucy presumption in any persons of what quality or breeding soever to assume the office of Priesthood and start up preachers of the Gospel being not first well studied and endowed with the several qualifications of learning and knowledge requisite thereunto Adde hereunto the dignity of those precious jewels committed to their charge viz. The immortal souls of men which are of so great value before God as neither gold silver nor any corruptible thing could redeem them 1 Pet. 1.18 but the bloud of Christ the eternal Son of God as a lamb without blemish now that which cost our Redeemer so dear and is designed either to eternal happiness or eternal misery according as 't is more or lesse wisely and carefully ordered requires surely such a guide and pastor as is not only wise learned and discreet but also vigilant careful and conscientious Under the Law how unwilling was Moses to be sent on the Lords message though he was a learned man Exod. 3. and so was Jeremy also I am a childe and cannot speak Jer. 1.6 And many others cautious of their own weaknesse and of the great abilities required to the execution of so great a function have more safely declined then arrogantly assumed the same Greg. de cura past l. 2. c. 7. Hinc quique praecipites colligant c. from hence all forward novices may observe how great a guilt of sinful presumption they contract who set up themselves to be teachers of others whilest they have yet need to be taught themselves since that yet holy men of God were afraid to undertake so weighty a calling even when God himself called and commanded them thereunto Under the Gospel Christ himself who is the word of God and the wisdome of the Father would not preach till he was 30. years old Vt vim saluberrimi timoris Greg. ibid. c. That he might infuse the vertue and efficacy of wholsome fear and caution into the hearts of the over forward since he who could not erre in his preachings would not yet preach the waies of perfection and felicity till he was of perfect age The Apostles of Christ
smaller parcels Denique penitus inspecta omnes haereses in multis cum autoribus suis dissentientes deprehenduntur Tert. de prae cont Haer. c. 42. The Anabaptists amongst us are subdivided into Antinomians Brownists Seekers Ranters Quakers Familists c. And finally saith the Father look into all Heresies and you may easily finde them in many things dissenting even from their own authors and Founders And seldome shall you see Heretiques agree in any one point except it be to oppose and cry down the Truth as Herod and Pilat against Christ 6. From the same dark Abysse of Ignorance Neque n●… natae sunt haereses quaedam dogmata illaqueantia animos in profundum praecipitantia nisi dum scripturae bonae intelligerentur malè quod in iis non bene imelligitur etiam temerè audacter asseritur Aug. in Joh. Tract 18. under the semblance of self-conceited wisdome hath sprung that which is of all others the greatest cause of Heresies viz. The misinterpretation and mis-application of the holy Scriptures For saith the Father Heresie had never sprung up nor false doctrines bewitching and destroying the souls of men had never been broacht had not the good word of God been ill understood and that also which is but ill and weakly understood been rashly and presumptuously affirmed 'T is ever the custome of Heretiques to alledge holy Scriptures in a wrested and perverted sense making those sacred writings like a nose of wax turning and writhing them to this and to that and to every sense that best agrees with their own vain imaginations Aliter Photius aliter Novatianus c. One Heretique understands it this way and another diversly from him and a third distinct from both and all put another sense upon the words of God then ever his holy Spirit intended therein Pro voluntatis suae sensu Hilar. Vinc. Lir. adversus Haer. c. 2. The sense of their own minde and spirit not of Gods Spirit Hil de trinitate l. 2. they put upon the Scriptures which occasion'd that complaint of S. Hierome Sola scripturarum ars est quam sibi passim omnes vendicant Hanc garrula avus hanc delirus senex hanc so phista verbosus hanc universi presumunt lacerant docent ante quam discant Hier. ad Pel. l. 1. c. 6. 'T is only the Art of understanding Scriptures which all persons challenge to themselves This the pratling old wife and the doting old man and the wrangler full of words this all men presume unto and upon presumption of their interest therein they tear and wrest and abuse it at their pleasure presuming to teach the doctrine thereof before they have half learned it As in the natural creation of children too many are the issue of lust and wantonness nor is it considered when they are begotten how they shall be kept even so 't is in the spiritual brood of Heresies pride covetousness and ignorance begets them before the authors know how to maintain them but as children when they are once gotten must be kept though they pinch upon their neighbours so this heretical crew rather then the opinions which are the issue of their pride and vanity should die they will steal the sineere milk of the word to nourish them or in language of another strain rather then they will submit their vain imaginations to the truth and true meaning of Gods word the truth of that must submit to their imaginations Videtis id vos agere ut omnis scripturarum de medio auferatur authoritas suus cuique animus author sit quid in quaque scriptura probet quid improbet id est non ut authoritati subjiciatur scripturarum ad fidem sed ut sibi scripturas ipse subjiciat non ut illi ideo placeat aliquid quia hoc in sublimi authoritate scriptum legitur sed ideo rectè scriptum videatur quia hoc illi placuit Aug. cont Faust And this saith the Father is the way to rob the Scripture of its authority whilest every mans own imagination must tell him what it allowes and what it disallowes this is not to be subject to the authority of the Scriptures but to make the Scriptures subject to our imaginations so that therefore this or that is not acceptable unto them because 't is written in the word of God but therefore 't is well said or written there because 't is acceptable unto them The great danger they incur who put another sense upon the holy Scriptures then Gods holy Spirit ever intended therein is represented to us by the strange fire which that rebellious crew under the conduct of Corah Dathan and Abiram offered up unto the Lord there came out a fire from the Lord and devoured the presumptuous sacrificers Numb 16.18,35 So those unlearned and unstable souts which wrest the Scriptures do it to their own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 As a remedy to prevent so great mischief Lat. conc secundum sess 11. the ancient Fathers thought it meet to provide saith the reverend Andrewes that they who took upon them to interpret the Scriptures should put in sureties that the sense they gave of them should be no other then what the Church in former times acknowledged So Vinc. Lirin also Propter tantos tam varii erroris anfractus necesse est ut propheticae Apostolicae interpretationis linea secundum ecclesiastici catholici sensus normam dirig a●… Vinc. Lir. advers Haer. c. 2. By reason of the manifold windings and turnings of the Scriptures for the maintenance of several errors 't is necessary to direct the line of prophetical and Apostolical interpretation according to the rule of an Ecclesiastical sense and meaning for Quis unquam Haereses c. saith the same Author Who ever brought in an Haeresie but first he disagreed from the consent of antiquity and of the ancient Catholique Church Et in laqueum sit verbum Dei saith Estius the holy Word of God becomes a snare and a stumbling block to all those who contemning the authority of the Church presume to impose their own private sense upon it And he that obtrudes his private sense of Scripture upon his hearers not only lords it over their faith Estius in Rom. 11.9 but over the faith of the universal Church of Christ nay he makes null and void the authority of holy Scriptures for Scripture is no more Scripture if not rightly interpreted 7. Another general cause of erroneous opinions in Religion is Hypocrisie when men are cold and lukewarm and too negligent in the practise which is the life of Christianity when they receive not the love of the Truth so as readily to obey and practise it then it is just with God to give them up to strong delusions Nay hereby men lay themselves open to the delusions of Heretiques because the excellency of holy Christian truths are not cannot be known but by the practise and experience thereof
ready to go Law for every small trespasse is a fault and far from the quality of faithfull charitable and good members of Christs Church whether Minister or People for 1 Cor. 11.6 if any list to be contentious we have no such custome nor the Churches of God But many such differences may arise betwixt party and party concerning temporal rights properties and interests as cannot well be decided without suit of Law Act. 19.38 so that it is not alwaies a fault in it self to go to Law and sue one another but when it is done either contentiously or uncharitably and they that are guilty in this kinde let them answer for themselves conclusion And now for your Conclusion you say If thou be a Minister of Jesus Christ which exerciseth a pure conscience towards God and man clear thy self from the guilt of these things and answer them in writing by the Scriptures or Saints Examples or else in silence confesse thy self guilty and one of those Christ cryed wo against acting the same things now as they did then filling up the measure of thy Fathers iniquity which said they were Jewes and were not but were of the Synagogue of Satan answer Your challenge is very highly bitter and railing both against me and all of my profession and calling and you rail in Scripture terms too whereby you take the garments of Gods Holy Spirit the Spirit of meeknesse and love and put them upon the Devils shoulders who is the reviler and accuser of his brethren Rev. 12.10 But I dare own my calling in spite of all the venom that the Devil and all his instruments can spit against it and will be ever ready to maintain my integrity in the conscientious exercise thereof in despite of all that oppose it your rayling Scripture woes are very much misapplyed you have mistaken the object Prov. 26.2 The curse causlesse shall not come Prov. 26.2 You shoot out your arrowes even bitter words at the mark they cannot hit the venome whereof is so far from being dreadful to me that it ministers rather cause of spiritual joy and exultation remembring the words of my Lord and Master Mat. 5.11,12 Mat. 5.11,12 Blessed are ye when men revile and persecute you and say all manner of evill against you for my sake falsly rejoyce and be glad for great is your reward in heaven for so persecuted they the Prophets that were before you I have according to your desire answered your several questions in writing I will not retort your uncharitable application of Scripture woes and threatnings against your self lest I should become guilty with you of the same sin but rather with all meeknesse beseech you in the fear of God seriously to weigh and consider what I have said 2 Tim. 2.7 and the Lord give you a right understanding in all things There remains yet one conclusive question which you ask so peremptorily as if it were impossible to give you an answer and thus 't is Prefac'd question Thou sayst They must be learned men and brought up in Scholastick waies and by that means they must open the Scripture because thou sayest they were first given forth in Greek and Hebrew which you call the Original and therefore ignorant men cannot understand them But answer me this question Whether the Scriptures as they are written in English be true as Christ and the Apostles spake them forth and if they be true as they are in English what need any other Language be learned by an English man to know them answer First what I have said is no other then a truth undeniable that the Scriptures were given forth in Hebrew and Greek which we do truly call the Original And as by learned men they are translated so by learned men who understand both the Translation and the Original are most fully and clearly understood As waters be more clear and pure in the Fountain then in the stream so the holy Scriptures are more clear and intelligible to them that see them in the Fountain and read them in the Original then to those who only can see and read them in the stream as they are derived unto them from the hands of the Translators And I must here tell you withall that it is very ill manners in you and not becoming either the humility or thankfulnesse of a Christian or a reasonable man to vilifie and undervalue Learning and learned men as to the understanding of the Scriptures since neither you nor any other man that only understands English had ever come to know any thing in the Scripture if learned men had not translated them to your hands 2. Since there hath been many translations of the Scriptures out of Hebrew into Greek out of Greek into Latine out of Hebrew and Greek into Latine out of Latine into English out of Greek into English out of Hebrew and Greek into English which Translations being made at several times and in several Ages do therefore very much differ and vary in several places It is very unlikely sure that ignorant men who understand only their own Native Language should yet aswell understand the Scriptures as the learned who have the gift of these severall Languages and can examine and compare these several Translations with the original and Fountain Truth And would it not much conduce think you to the understanding of the Scripture to read the Interpretations and pious Discourses of those holy religious Fathers of the Church which lived either in or about the Apostles time or immediately afterward and so are most likely to know the meaning of the Apostles in their writings then we who live so many hundred years since This I beleeve no man that hath not lost his sense and reason will deny Now to read and understand those ancient writings and the Scripture by those helps Greek and Latine is necessary for they wrote in those Languages objection But to all this I beleeve you will say That they who are endued with the Spirit of God understand the things of God without all this labour and learning answer We acknowledge and affirm as well as you that wisdome knowledge and understanding are the gifts of the Spirit Esa 11.2 and that we must wait upon God for them by Prayer for from him cometh every good and perfect gift Jam. 1.5,17 but yet God communicates not these gifts to the sons of men by miracle but through the use of the means Dan. 1. compare v. 4. 6 with v. 17. And to neglect and contemn the use of those ordinary means God hath given us to attain spiritual wisdome by and to depend upon extraordinary and miraculous revelation from Heaven is to tempt the good Spirit of God Mat. 4 7. 2 Thel 2.10,11 2 Tim. 4.1 2 Pet. 3.15,16 and to provoke him to give us up to strong delusions and to give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of Devils which too often appear and insinuate themselves into the mindes of men under the vizard shew
the holy Scriptures appear more clear and intelligible in the Original and fountain Language then as they are conveighed unto us in the stream of Translations into other languages 2. The holy Scripture is full of Metaphors Multa dicuntur in sae Script 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 omnis metaphora si de alia in aliam linguam transferatur ad verbum quibusdam quasi sentibus orationis sensus germina suffocantur Hier. in Eph. 4 and as Hier. observes When a Metaphor is transferred out of one Language into another if it be done exactly and to a word it loses its proper emphasis and the sense and fruitfulness thereof is stifled and choakt 3. There is no Translation how accurate soever can in all words and phrases punctually agree with the Original because there are but few words to be found in any language which have not divers significations II. The knowledge of Geography History Arts and monuments of antiquity For 1. The holy Scriptures being the Language of other Countreys how shall they understand them that know nothing of the situation of those countreys and places or of their rites and customes particular idiomes phrases and proverbial speeches which must needs seem strange improper and insignificant to them who know no more but the ordinary places customes and expressions of their own nation 2. The Scriptures are of all books in the world the most ancient now as times do alter and vary so do the customes and constitutions actions and affections manners and proverbial sayings of all people alter also hence the 14. chapter of the 1 Cor. is so hard to be understood Because those customes are so long since out of date And this may seem to be one reason why God in his wisdome hath so often altered his waies of dispensation and the revelaton of his truth unto his Church and 't is the ground of that wise direction of the Father Distingue tempora intelliguntur Scripturae he must warily distinguish betwixt ancient and modern times that will rightly understand the Scriptures III. The knowledge of Rhetorick Logick c. by the help whereof we are enabled to take notice 1. Of those tropes and figures and metaphorical expressions whereof the holy Scripture is full to know what is properly and what figuratively expressed what is the literal and what the mystical sense therein what is delivered by way of History and what by way of parable and similitude what by way of command and what by way of counsel to compare the more obscure and dark places with the more plain and perspicuous the like saying in one place with its like in another and the differing and unlike with its unlike and differing expression 2. To observe the causes and grounds the scope and drift of every saying with the reasons and arguments to enforce it and warily to distinguish betwixt the substance and circumstances of each command and admonition 3. By way of Logical Analyse to open divide and resolve the holy Word into its proper parts that each who hears and reads the same may know his own portion and what particularly is applyable to him An art which Timothy was commanded to study for Study to shew thy self approved a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth 1 Tim. 2.15 IV. The knowledge of natural causes vertues operations and effects which is the sum of Natural Philosophy For 1. The holy Scripture as well sets forth unto us the works of God Adore scripturae plenitudinem quae mihi factorem manisestat facta Tert. cont Herm. as his words of command admonition c. Witness the history of the creation Gen. 1. which is in it self a little epitome of all natural Philosophy and the admirable discourses of Gods works in the book of Job and in the Psalmes of David and many other places and this because the works of God are as the great Basil styles the world 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the School of Gods knowledge For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and Godhead Rom. 1.20 The most wise God who hath revealed himself unto us in his works as well as in his word hath also used the one as a means to illustrate and clear the meaning of the other so that as the word of God sets forth his marvellous works so by his works and by similitudes and resemblances taken from his creatures he teacheth us in his word both the knowledge of himself and of his holy will touching the waies of his worship witnesse the manifold commands and admonitions expressed under the notion of several creatures The Oxe and the Asse the Stork the Crane and the Swallow Isa 1.3 To exemplifie but in one text which is also a positive command of the Gospel Mat. 10.16 Be ye therefore wise as Serpents but innocent as Doves He then that knowes nothing of the nature of the Serpent and of the Dove how shall he understand the meaning or yeeld obedience to this command And that very appearance of the holy Ghost in the shape of a Dove upon our Saviour Mat. 3.16 Act. 2.2,3 and in winde and fire upon his Apostles implies the necessity of this price of humane Learning to understand something of the properties of that creature and of these elements to understand aright the several qualifications of the holy Ghost V. The knowledge of moral Philosophy for rightly to understand the nature properties c. of moral vertues must needs conduce exceedingly to the right understanding of the perfection and excellency of spiritual graces the one being but the elevation and raising up of the other to an higher pitch of perfection The light of nature being not extinguished but made more clearly seeing by the light of Grace And the guidance of natural reason being not abolisht 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Just Mart. Diol cum Tryph. but rectified perfected and confirmed by the dictates and commands of the holy Christian Faith Therefore Justin Martyr stiles Philosophy meaning I believe natural and moral Philosophy as subservient to Divinity The greatest possession and most acceptable unto God as the means whereby we are brought to the knowledge of God and of his holy will CHAP. XI Of the Analogie of faith and the Doctrine of the Church TO the right understanding of holy Scriptures 't is further required to know what sense and meaning the ancient Fathers the learned and pious Doctors of the Church in all ages have given of them for no Scripture is of private interpretation But interpreted and understood it must be according to the general Canon or Analogie of Faith that faith which was once given to the Saints by the Apostles the articles whereof are summarily comprehended in the Apostles Creed That Faith which so delivered and received hath been preserved and maintained Vinc. vir semper
ubique ab omnibus at all times in all places by all persons Councels and Fathers and is by the merciful providence of God in spite of all opposition from Infidels Heretiques and Schismatiques brought down unto us Prov. 3.5 This Faith must be the rule according to which we must steer our interpretations of holy Scriptures not leaning to our own understanding or abounding in our own sense but ever submitting our private judgement to the publique judgement of the Church which in the Apostles own times was commanded when the gift of prophesie or interpretation of Scripture was by more immediate and extraordinary inspiration communicated yet even then the judgement of the Church was to be allowed in the interpretation of Scripture 1 Cor. 14.29 Let the Prophets speak two or three and let the other judge objection But 't is here objected Numb 16.14 Wilt thou put out the eyes of these people must we not see with our own eyes but only with those of the Church Shall we pin our faith upon any mens sleeves What need we the authority of men when we have Gods own authority for our direction and men are but men i. e. frail and liable to error so that all they affirm is not to be taken for Gospel In answer whereunto consider answer 1. That there is a great deal of difference betwixt an implicite faith and blinde obedience to the dictates of the Church and a submission to the publique judgement thereof The first deprives the people of their reason and judgement the second renders them more meek humble submissive and obedient and thereby more capable to receive the impression of the knowledge of celestial mysteries 2. Nihil carum rerum scire quae antè nascereris sacta sum hoc est semper esse puerum Cic. That we assert not the ancient and learned Fathers of the Church ut dominos sed ut duces fidei Not as Lords over our faith but as guides in the true belief And he that knows nothing of the Religion of the Fathers for his guidance and direction is most likely still to continue a childe in his religion Nor 3. Quicquid omnes vel plures uno eodemque sensu manifestè frequenter perseveranter velut quod am sibi consentiente concilio accipiendo tenendo tradendo firmaverint id pro indubitato certo ratoque habeatur Quicquid vero quamvis ille doctus sanctus quamvis Episcopus praeter omnes aut etiam contra omnes senserit id inter proprias privatas opiniunculas à communis publicae generalis sententiae authoritate secretum sit Vinc. Lyr. are we to receive for Oracle all that the ancient reverend Fathers of the Church did affirm being very few amongst them but had their particular errors and mistakes and in many particulars also 't is confessed they did contradict each other 'T is not therefore the affirmations and private opinions of particular persons we must look upon as the Doctrine of true Religion and true meaning of the Scriptures but the general and universal consent of all for that all should erre and fall from the truth is contrary to what our Lord hath promised who will undoubtedly be as good as his word Mat. 16.18 Vpon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall never prevail against it and Mat. 28.20 I am with you alway even to the end of the world In a word in the interpretation of Scriptures and for the confirmation of holy truths thence deduced the authority of the ancient Fathers and Doctors of the Church is to be consulted and known for these reasons 1. Because they are certain and undeniable witnesses of what the Church and the people of Christ did in their respective times believe and hold for orthodox Doctrine If the same doctrine St. Augustine taught in Africk was also taught by St. Chrysostome in Greece by St. Ambrose in Italy by St. Hierome in Palestine and so in other places by holy and reverend Bishops and Pastors of the Church then this undoubtedly was the doctrine of the Church and thus were the holy Scriptures understood in those ages of the Church Ita intellexit Ambrosius ita Cyprianus c. Thus Ambrose thus Cyprian understood such or such a place of Scripture this had some weight in St. August time and St. Aug. opinion and there is no reason but that it should be of the same force still amongst us 'T is no way probable but that persons so eminent in learning and in piety so frequent in holy prayers and meditations in fastings and wailings so indefatigable in their studies and labours in the Word and Doctrine and who laid down their lives and fortunes for the doctrine they preached should more truly understand the Scriptures and the truth of Christian Religion then we who if there be any thing of Modesty and Humility in our hearts must confesse our selves far inferiour to them in the said gifts and graces of the holy Spirit Vsque adeo promiscuit imis summa longus dies c. Aug. Hath time so confounded all things is light so changed into darkness and darkness become light ut videant Pelagius c. that Haeretiques now are the only seers Et caeci sunt Hilarius Cyprianus Ambrosiùs And the learned pious Fathers of the Church become blinde The words are too much appliable to the Heretiques of the times 3. The judgement of the Fathers being so far remote from these times wherein we live must needs be impartial as to the controversies amongst us touching the interpretation of any texts of Scripture or doctrines therein delivered as being altogether disinterested and knowing nothing of our disputes and contestations thereabouts Nullas nobiscum vel vobiscum amicitias attenderunt c. Aug. contra Julian Pelag. They were neither in friendship nor in community with us or with them who in this age are of a contrary opinion to us they were neither angry with us nor them neither did they pity either of us but what they found professed in the Church they faithfully preserved what they learned they taught and what they received from their fathers they delivered unto us their children and undoubtedly Survey of the pretended discipline as a learned man of our Church observes they that contemn the learned Fathers that went before them do but open a gap to their own discredit making way thereby to be contemned themselves by all those that shall come after 4. We cannot but reasonably imagine that those holy and learned persons who lived nearer the Apostles times should proportionably know better the Apostles meaning in their writings and the doctrine they preached then any of us who live so many hundred years since Therefore saith Irenaeus Iren. l. 3. ch 4. who was the Disciple of Polycarpus the Disciple of St. John Where any question ariseth and the holy Scripture as 't is too common Vinc. Ler. is so perverted as
Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the Scriptures seeing you are contrary to the Scriptures and follow your own inventions and traditions and so erre from them question 20 Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years after question 21 Whether ever Christ or the Apostles did retain 100 or 200 l. a year for preaching the Gospel question 22 What Scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church whereas the Church is in God 1 Thess 1.1 question 23 What Scripture is there to have the Clark to say Amen and have groats a piece of the world to maintain his trade question 24 What Scripture is there for taking money to bury the dead question 25 What Scripture is there for taking 10 or 20 s. for preaching a Funeral Sermon question 26 What Scripture is there for taking money for marrying man and woman question 27 When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospel sue men at the Law If thou be a Minister of Jesus Christ which exerciseth a pure conscience towards God and towards Man clear thy self from the guilt of these things and answer them in writing by the Scriptures or Saints examples or else in silence confesse thy self to be guilty and one of those that Christ cryed woe against acting the same things now as they did then filling up the measure of thy fathers iniquity which said they were Jewes and were not but were of the synagogue of Satan Thou sayest they must be learned men and brought up in Scholastical waies and by that means they must open the Scriptures because thou sayest they were first given forth in Greek and Hebrew which you call the Original and therefore ignorant men cannot understand them but must have your meanings interpretations and dimensions of your own brain and thus you deceive the simple But answer me this question Whether the Scriptures as they are written in English be true as Christ and the Apostles spoke them forth and if they be true as they are in English what need any other language be learned by an English man to know them R. H. THE QVAKERS several Questions WITH The Answers Returned R. H. FOR what relative title to give you without offence I understand not I received your paper of many strange scrupulous Questions And though it be most true that one fool may aske more Questions then 100. wise men can answer as the common proverb goes yet we are taught by a more authentick proverb sometimes Prov. 26.5 to answer a fool in his folly lest he be wise in his own conceit I say not this to upbraid your person but with reflexion on the follies and errors displaid in your several questions which will appear I believe in the following answers if you read them as becomes a good Christian without prejudice partiality or obstinacy of mind but with the spirit of meekness and a desire to 1 Thess 5.21 try all things and hold fast that which is good question 1 Whether your Gospel be the same the Apostles preached and if it be why go you to Oxford or Cambridge when the Apostle saith the Gospel he preached was not after man neither was he taught it by man answer We preach the same Gospel the Apostles preached but do not attain the knowledge and understanding of this Gospel by the same means the Apostles were eye-witnesses and ear-witnesses of the sayings and doings of Christ which is the sum of the Gospel the mysteries whereof they understood by immediate revelation from heaven being both publiquely visibly and miraculously inspired with extraordinary gifts of the Spirit Act. 2.1,2,3,4 inabling them both more fully to understand and more powerfully to preach the Gospel Schools they had at Bethel 2 King 2.3 at Jericho v. 5. and Elishas Colledge was so full that they inlarged it 2 King 6.1 and at Naioth 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 1 Sam. 10.5,10 then any mortal man could ever hope for since But we do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do we or ought we to depend upon any such immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven but do use those ordinary means and helps which God in his merciful providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Neither go we to Oxford and Cambridge to learn the Gospel we preach but to learn the knowledge of those tongues and languages arts and sciences which are the external means enabling us to understand and open the meaning of the Gospel by the good hand of God upon us prospering our labours and studies to that end that being well grounded in the truth we might not be deceived and mistake the inventions and errors of men and doctrines of seducing spirits for 1 Tim. 4.1,2 the doctrines and commandements of God Even as you went to School to learn to write and read that you might read the Scriptures indeed but not 2 Pet. 3.16 pervert them to your own destruction and that you might write your minde in truth and sincerity but not to write scrupulous questions to puzzle and poyson the souls of the simple who cannot see into the depth of your delusions question 2 Whether you can give another meaning to the Scriptures then they are or whether the Apostles did not give the meaning to them when they spake them forth yea or no and if they did what need learned men give a meaning to them answer The sense and meaning of the Scripture is involved and infolded in it even as the kernel of a nut is within the shell to finde out which sense and declare it and make it appear from under those several kindes of metaphorical and figurative expressions which commonly clothe and cover it is a part of our task and duty And this we do by a serious diligent and intent searching weighing and pondering the texts of Scriptures by comparing and conferring several places by observing the connexions and coherences by sincere and impartiall collecting and observing the several truths contained therein and also flying unto God by prayer and devotion for assistance in the work And that it belongs to learned men to give the Sense and meaning of the Scriptures we have in the old Testament the example of Ezra the Scribe that is the Learned Neh. 8.4,5,6,7,8 who stood upon a Pulpit of Wood high above all the people made purposely for preaching and the Levites caused the people to understand the Law and this they did not only by reading the Law distinctly but they gave the sense saith the Text and caused the people to understand the reading In the new Testament Christ himself took a text and preached upon it Luk. 4.17 -22. Philip took the text which the Eunuch read in Esay and preached Christ unto him Act. 8 30 -37. converting the Eunuch by giving the sense of
the coherence whether that be the very intent and aim of the holy Ghost in the text for the which it is urg'd and alleged For the same words of the Spirit may be misapplyed both to other things and other persons then the Spirit ever meant or intended therein rule 2 Secondly distinguish betwixt times ages persons when wherein and to whom this or that word was spoken For there are many things both said and recorded to be done in the Word which are only agreeable to those times to that age of the Church and to some particular persons and are not at all appliable to the Church and people of Christ in these times or to any persons amongst us rule 3 Thirdly examine diligently the phrase and manner of speech whether it be plain or Metaphorical literal or allegorical a true history or a parable only For many things are spoken in the Word by way of type figure allegory parable and the like which if we should apply in the plain and literal sense would prove strange monstrous lies and contradictions which God forbid any man should be so blasphemous as to impose on the Spirit of truth and wisdome rule 4 Fourthly examine diligently what agreement every text of Scripture hath with other and receive not easily and slightly the seeming sense of any text without comparing the same with its parallel texts For many things seem to be positively asserted in some places of the Word of God which yet are directly contradicted in others one place therefore is so to be compared with and interpreted by another that the one do not obscure or any way cloud the truth of the other rule 5 Fifthly examine whether that which we conceive to be the sense of this or that Scripture be agreeable to those Articles of Christian faith contained in the Apostles Creed that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or form of sound words in faith we must 2 Tim. 2.13 hold fast that model of faith once given to the Saints Jude v. 3. for which we must contend and consequently receive no private sense or interpretation of Scripture that is contrary thereunto 2 Pet. 1.20 remembring that no Scripture is of any private interpretation but that even the Spirits of the Prophets themselves are subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 14.32 rule 6 Sixtly examine what we conceive to be the sense of the Spirit in the Word by the rule of that law written by the finger of God in two Tables of stone as a lasting square according to which to regulate all our actions and consequently all our conceptions and opinions from whence our actions flow The rule of obedience or that all perfect rule of Charity Rom. 13.10 which is the fulfilling of the Law is an infallible rule of trial of the spirits whether they be of God or no Hereby saith the Apostle we are sure we know God if we keep his Commandements he that saith I know God and keepeth not his Commandements is a lyar and the truth is not in him 1 Joh. 2.34 1 Joh. 2.34 It is not the Spirit of truth but the spirit of error if it oppose or deny or any way impede and hinder our obedience to the Laws of God For saith the same Apostle again 1 Joh. 3.24 He that keepeth his Commandements dwelleth in him and he in him and hereby we know that he abideth in us even by that Spirit which he hath given us even by the spirit of obedience to the Commandements of God So that even from hence 't is clear that both to have the Spirit abiding in us and the way to know we have him also and not a false counterfeit lying spirit is if thereby we be mov'd and enabled to keep Gods Commandements This is the very rule our Saviour himself prescribes to examine his own doctrine thereby Joh. 7.17 Joh. 7.17 If any man will do his will he shall know of the doctrine whether it be of God or whether I speak of my self And this is the first general rule of tryal of the Spirits even the Word of God rule 2 A second rule according to which to try the spirits whether they be of God or no is by the fruits of the Spirit and 't is the rule our Lord himself hath given us to know them by Mat. 7.15 Beware of false Prophets which come to you in sheeps cloathing but inwardly they are ravening wolves Mat. 7.15 Beware of false Prophets for many such are gone out into the world who in respect of their exteriour dress and outward appearance so plausible are their pretences so spiritual are their expresions so much of the language of the Spirit and Scripture phrases flow from them that you would take them for the true sheep of Christ and undoubtedly to belong to his fold and yet for all this inwardly really and truly they are wolves in sheeps cloathing limbs of Satan deceiving and devouring the souls of the simple But by their fruits you shal know them which is confirmed by an apt similitude vers 16. Do men gather grapes of thornes or figs of thistles q. d. Mat. 7.16 No man can be so foolish as to expect this but every tree whether it be good or whether it be bad bringeth forth fruit suitable to its good or bad nature So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit and a corrupt tree bringeth forth evill fruit 17. nor is it possible it should be otherwise A good tree cannot bring forth bad fruit neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit 18. even so false Prophets cannot bring forth the fruit of good true wholsome sound doctrines and religious manners So Menander 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 No man being good in himself produceth evil actions on the other side saith Antoninus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. He that will not have a wicked man to commit wickedness is like unto him that will not have a fig-tree to bring forth figs 'T is then an infallible tryal of the spirits whether they be of God or no by the fruits they bring forth The fruit of the Spirit viz. which is of God is love joy peace long-suffering gentleness goodness faith meekness temperance Gal. 5.22,23 The first of these fruits and the fairest too even of largest extent and most lasting which this tree of life brings forth is Love even the love of God above all and of our neighbour as our selves This therefore must needs be an infallible touch-stone to try the spirit of truth from the spirit of error for the spirit of truth is the very spirit of love and that first in respect of himself being that essential love and love-knot of the Father and the Son And secondly in respect of us being that sacred vinculum that invisible chain which unites us unto God by faith which worketh by love Gal. 5 6. and which unites one to another by charity peace amity the inseparable fruits of
notwithstanding that they were conversant with Christ all the while he continued preaching the Gospel upon earth daily heard his heavenly Doctrine as it distilled from his own mouth and saw the miracles he did for the confirmation thereof and though they were endued in some measure with the gifts and graces of the Spirit before his ascension For he breathed on them c. Luk. 24.45 He opened their understandings to understand the Scriptures yet all this was not thought sufficient to preach and open the mysteries of the Gospel to the world but they were forbidden to do it till they received additional gifts of learning and knowledge from above Luk. 24.49 Tarry you at Hierusalem till you be endued with power from on high Gloss ordin in Loc. Vt exemplum sequentibus daretur c. Giving example to all posterity that no weak and illiterate persons wanting the gifts of Tongues Arts c. presume to intermeddle with preaching or unfolding the mysteries of the Gospel 'T is recorded of the great St. Basil and Nazianzen Ruffin Lib. 2. cap. 9. that after their long studies in saecular learning they continued for the space of thirteen yeers together in a monastery giving themselves to the study of holy Scriptures the sense and meaning whereof they fetcht not out of their own heads but out of the writings and authority of the ancients to whom by succession from the Apostles the rule of right understanding the Scriptures was apparently known The order of divine wisdome and providence in the dispensation of holy truths to the world is worth our observation out of 1 Cor. 12.4,5,6 There are diversities of gifts but the same Spirit there are diversities of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God that worketh all in all From hence it is easie to observe that there must be gifts before administrations i. e. 1. A man must be qualified with gifts fit for every calling before he receive administration or be ordained to that calling 2. There must be administration before operation i. e. A man must be lawfully ordained to a calling before he work or labour therein So in the great calling of the Ministry the gifts of the Spirit must precede or go before before Letters of administration be taken And 2. a lawful ordination must be taken before operation or working therein And he that either 1. assumes this high and sacred function Bish Ands. serm in 1 Cor. 12.14 c. being not qualified with gifts contemns the Spirit from whom they come Or 2. He that labours in the word and Doctrine though he be gifted being not also lawfully ordained contemns the Lord from whom all administrations come and who hath instituted and commanded ordination thereunto Or 3. He that being both gifted and lawfully ordained is not industrious in this calling contemns God the Father of all operations who worketh all in all He that thinks any of these superfluous may as well question whether some one Person of the Trinity be not superfluous also even that Person from whom comes that part of the division which he slights and contemns As it is therefore in the order of the Trinity as the Father begets the Son and from the Father and the Son proceeds the holy Ghost So in this Division the gifts of the Spirit beget the Lords Administration or calling to the Ministry and both together produce the operation or labour therein which is the work of God and as no man comes to Christ but by the holy Ghost so no man comes lawfully to the calling but by the gifts and as no man comes to the Father but by the Son so no man comes to the work but by the calling CHAP. XIII The internal and divine qualifications of the soul as to the understanding of holy Scriptures 1. T Is confessed that all the external parts of humane learning already remembred though they be the gifts and blessings of Gods Spirit and necessary helps to the opening of the Letter and right understanding of the literal and genuine sense of Gods word yet are not in themselves alone sufficient to attain a true and throughly saving knowledge thereof except our souls be enricht as with the outward gifts so with inward graces of the holy Spirit also Truth and Holiness are the two inseparable constituent parts of spiritual wisdome and to understand the truth or true meaning of the Spirit of Truth in the word the Spirit of holiness must necessarily concur And this is most eloquently expressed Job 28. where after a most high and magnificent expression of the praises great price and value of true wisdome a view is taken of all the parts of the world where it might be found gold and silver iron and brasse all useful metals and precious stones have their places though secret designed them but where shall this rich pearl where shall wisdome be found and what is the place of understandings Vers 12. It is not found in the land of the living the depth saith It is not in me and the sea saith It is not in me Vers 14. It is hid from the eyes of all living and kept close from the fowls of the air vers 21. The most Eagly sighted Philosophers and wisemen of the world who have viewed the natures properties and causes of all things not in the earth alone but in the heavens also even the courses influences and operations of the Sun Moon and Stars have not yet attained true wisdome how then shall we finde it out it followes God knoweth the place thereof and he understandeth the way thereof vers 23. And he hath said Behold the fear of the Lord that is wisdome and to depart from evil is understanding briefly describing both the place of wisdome and the way thereunto even the way of piety and obedience And of that piety which is necessarily requisite to the understanding of holy Truth there are several species or particular parts which from the example of holy Bernard may be thus reckoned up Qui ut legeret intelligendi fecit cupiditas ut intelligeret oratio impetravit ut impetraret quid nisi vitae sanctitas promeruit His earnest desire of knowledge made him studious and industrious in reading his fervent prayers obtained the understanding of what he read and his holy life made his prayers effectual for the enlightning of his understanding and thus he must desire thus study thus pray and thus live who will attain that knowledge which shall make him wise to salvation 1. The first divine qualification of the soul requisite unto knowledge is the desire thereof The beginning of wisdome is the desire of instruction Wisd 6.17 Come unto me all ye that be desirous of me and fill your selves with my fruits Ecclesiasticus 24.19 and what is more authentick If thou seekest wisdome as silver and searchest for her as for hid treasure then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord and
be understood more particularly of the prophesies and coming of Christ to the destruction of his crucifiers and deliverance of his people or whether more specially of the Law and the Prophets of old or whether more generally of all the Scriptures both the old and new Testament in what sense soever this light of prophesie is taken 't is preferred before immediate Revelation by voice from heaven as being a more certain infallible way to direct us to the knowledge of Christ the true light For the further illustration whereof 't will be not impertinent to observe that there is a twofold light whereof Christ after an especiall manner is the fountain and original 1. The light of Grace and truth in this life 2. The light of Glory and peace in that life to come And in both these respects Christ is termed the morning star The day-spring from on high or as in the text The dawning of the day The holy Scriptures or in the language of the text according to some interpretations the word of prophesie is as 't were those beams which are displayed from Christ the light of the world for our illumination and guidance in the paths of grace and truth unto the mansions of glory and peace eternal Thy word is a light Psal 119. And all they who enjoy this word of prophesie in the right understanding and conscientious practise thereof are therefore termed children of the light and of the day not of the night and of darknesse 1 Thess 5.5 But assuredly what ever seduced persons may falsly gather from this text whosoever shall neglect or contemn the use of this light or obscure the same by false glosses and mis-interpretations must read the Apostles words backwards and become children of the night and of darknesse and not of the light and of the day But yet as the light of a candle is useless when the Sun ariseth so the light of Gods Word for our direction in the way of grace shall cease when the light of glory shall once arise and the day-spring of eternity appear when we shall be united unto Christ not by faith but by vision when we shall no more see him and enjoy him in his word and ordinances through a glasse darkly but face to face plainly and fully be made partakers of him But in the mean time whilest we live in this darksome place of the world darkned by ignorance and error by sinfulness and manifold temptations thereunto he that will not walk in darkness not knowing whither he goes must make use of Gods holy word for a light unto his feet and a lanthorn unto his pathes Against the use of humane learning by the preachers of the Gospel is alledged 1 Cor. 2.1 1 Cor. 2.1,2,4 c. And I brethren when I came to you came not with excellency of speech or of wisdome For I determined to know nothing but Christ and him crucified And my speech and my preaching was not with the enticing word of mans wisdome but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power The Apostle in this place takes not away the use of humane learning because himself in other places makes use thereof he had his books and writings which he commanded to be brought unto him 2 Tim. 4.13 he read the Greek Poets which he quotes Act. 17.28 Tit. 1.12 He commands Timothy to give attendance to reading 1 Tim. 4.13 and to study 2 Tim. 2.15 But amongst these Corinthians at the first he declined the use of his humane learning not drawing his arguments from natural reason and probable discourses out of Philosophy guilded with curious quaint and rhetorical expressions which he cals the enticing words of humane wisdome 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 probable arguments or perswasive discourses this was not the way he went to convert these Corinthians but by the demonstration of the Spirit and power i. e. He proved Christ to be the Saviour of the world 1. By the demonstration of the Spirit Shewing that the holy Spirit 1. did speak and foretel in the Law and in the Prophets of Christs coming into the world and of his doings and sufferings for our salvation 2. That he both visibly descended on him and audibly bare witness to him in a voice from heaven saying This is my beloved Son c. 3. That he both visibly and audibly descended upon his Apostles also and endued them with extraordinary gifts and through their ministery also he descended upon others that were converted by them Thus S. Paul preached Christ to these Corinthians by the demonstration of the Spirit And 2. Of Power also viz. The power of miracles curing discases speaking with tongues these were the topical arguments wherewith he perswaded them to become Christians And the reason hereof he gives vers 5. That your faith might not stand in the wisdome of men but in the power of God i. e. That the grounds of your belief in Christ might not be the perswasions and allurements of men how wise soever but such as God himself made use of In a word his meaning in this place is that he preached unto them plainly and not Rhetorically and the arguments he used were demonstrative and divine not probable and humane only But 1. We may not hence gather that S. Paul did alwaies decline the use of Rhetorical and Philosophical wisdome in his preaching but such was his great wisdome that his preaching was according to the conditions and capacities of his hearers sometimes more plainly sometimes more elegantly and mysteriously using sometimes divine and sometimes humane sometimes demonstrative and sometimes probable arguments and perswasions He fed the babes in Christ with milk as here Vers 2. I determined to know nothing among you but Christ and him crucisied but the more perfect and grown up in Christ he fed with stronger and solid meat as vers 6. Howbeit we speak wisdome among them that are perfect And 2. when his preaching was most plain it was not devoid of learning both divine and humane 't was not without order method proper and pertinent expressions like the upstart intruders into the ministerial office now a daies who to avoid as they pretend the enticing words of mans wisdome speak not forth the words of truth and soberness but rove and ramble about many points in Divinity which rightly they understand not heaping together variety of texts and Scripture expressions without either order or right application as if to spend an hour or more in a rude and zealous delivery of religious nothings were to avoid the enticings words of mans wisdome and to preach in the demonstration of the Spirit and of Power 1 Cor. 2.14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned but he that is spiritual judgeth all things Animalis homo est qui habet intellectum affectam depresses ad sensibilia Lyra. whence all Enthusiasts and pretenders to the Spirit most