Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	church_n	interpretation_n	4,397	5	10.0901	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90523	A defence of church-government, exercised in presbyteriall, classicall, & synodall assemblies; according to the practise of the reformed churches: touching I. The power of a particular eldership, against those that plead for a meere popular government, specially Mr Ainsvvorth in his Animadversion to Mr Clyft. &c. II. The authority of classes and synods, against the patrons of independencie: answering in this poynt Mr Davenport his Apologeticall reply, &c. and Mr Canne his Churches plea, &c, sent forth first by W. Best, and afterwards for this part of it, under the title of Syons prerogative royall. By Iohn Paget, late able and faithfull pastour of the Reformed English Church in Amsterdam. Hereunto is prefixed an advertisement to the Parliament, wherein are inserted some animadversions on the Cheshire Remonstrance against Presbytery: by T.P.	Paget, John, d. 1640.; Paget, Thomas, d. 1660.	1641 (1641)	Wing P166; Thomason E117_1; ESTC R16734	348,418	298

the_o church_n or_o whether_o the_o officer_n be_v choose_v with_o the_o public_a knowledge_n and_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o call_a power_n to_o hear_v &_o judge_v matter_n to_o rebuke_v and_o censure_v offender_n without_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o multitude_n yet_o so_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n &_o more_o public_a concernment_n as_o admission_n excommunication_n &_o absolution_n of_o member_n election_n &_o deposition_n of_o officer_n etc._n etc._n the_o case_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o &_o determine_v with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n according_a to_o the_o practice_n above-written_a the_o former_a of_o these_o be_v deny_v the_o latter_a affirm_v &_o maintain_v in_o the_o ensue_a discourse_n chap._n ii_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n injudging_a &_o end_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o congregation_n 1._o the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ecclesiastical_a office_n &_o officer_n be_v such_o as_o import_v a_o power_n of_o judge_a cause_n be_v such_o title_n as_o do_v express_a &_o declare_v the_o power_n of_o judgement_n which_o be_v in_o the_o ruler_n of_o israel_n both_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a as_o for_o example_n 1._o a_o guide_n or_o leader_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o title_n give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n heb._n 13.7_o 17_o 24._o &_o be_v the_o same_o that_o in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n agreeable_a to_o the_o original_a be_v give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n josh_n 13.21_o deut._n 1.13_o mica_n 3.9_o 11.2_o chro._n 5.1_o ezek._n 44.3_o &_o 45.7_o dan._n 3.2_o as_o also_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n act._n 7.10_o beside_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o another_o word_n so_o often_o give_v unto_o civil_a ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mat._n 2.6_o &_o 27.2_o act._n 23.24_o 26_o 33._o 1._o pet._n 2.14_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o be_v this_o word_n also_o use_v by_o other_o humane_a writer_n abundant_o 2._o a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o h._n ghost_n unto_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o describe_v their_o authority_n &_o power_n act._n 20.28_o phil._n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 3.2_o tit._n 1.7_o be_v the_o same_o word_n that_o be_v give_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n num._n 31.14_o judg._n 9.28_o 2._o kin._n 11.15_o and_o very_o often_o in_o other_o writer_n 3._o a_o elder_a nafi_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nafi_n the_o title_n which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o denote_v &_o show_v the_o office_n of_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 15.2_o 4._o &_o 20.17_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o tit._n 1.5_o 1._o pet._n 5.1_o be_v the_o same_o word_n which_o be_v likewise_o give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n &_o elder_n in_o the_o gate_n judg._n 8.14_o ruth_n 4.2_o 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o sam._n 5.3_o 1._o chron._n 11.3_o 4._o a_o prince_n or_o ruler_n be_v the_o title_n of_o civil_a governor_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o signify_v their_o authority_n num._n 7.2_o gen._n 25.16_o &_o 34.2_o levit._fw-la 4.22_o rom._n 13.3_o 1._o cor._n 2.6_o be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n to_o note_v their_o office_n and_o authority_n as_o act._n 23.5_o with_o exod._n 22.28_o mat._n 9.18_o luk._n 8.41_o joh._n 3.1_o num._n 3.24_o 30_o 32_o 35._o and_o hereby_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o untrue_a it_o be_v which_o mr_n robinson_n write_v concern_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o civil_a officer_n &_o church-governors_n when_o have_v mention_v some_o of_o the_o title_n give_v to_o magistrate_n he_o say_v 135._o say_v justify_v of_o sep._n p._n 135._o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o these_o &_o the_o like_a title_n which_o can_v neither_o be_v give_v without_o flattery_n unto_o they_o nor_o receive_v by_o they_o without_o arrogancy_n and_o yet_o the_o very_a first_o of_o the_o title_n wherein_o he_o give_v instance_n be_v that_o title_n which_o here_o i_o show_v to_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a 5._o the_o title_n of_o head_n rosch_n rosch_n wherein_o mr_n robinson_n ibid._n robinson_n justific_n ibid._n instance_v in_o the_o second_o place_n that_o it_o may_v not_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v yet_o if_o we_o will_v regard_v what_o the_o scripture_n affirm_v give_v to_o they_o as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a ruler_n as_o it_o be_v give_v to_o magistrate_n in_o deut._n 1.15_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o mr_n robinson_n so_o be_v it_o also_o give_v to_o minister_n in_o 1._o chron._n 15.12_o &_o 23.24_o &_o 24.4_o &_o 26.10_o 12._o 2._o chron._n 19.11_o ezra_n 8.1_o 17._o nehem._n 12.12_o 22_o 23_o 24._o 6._o the_o title_n of_o governor_n or_o government_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o the_o greek_n be_v gr._n be_v steph._n thes_n ling._n gr._n note_v to_o use_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n thereby_o by_o a_o metaphor_n from_o pilot_n out_o of_o xenophon_n aristotle_n plato_n cicero_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n also_o use_v to_o signify_v unto_o we_o thereby_o the_o authority_n of_o church-governors_n in_o guide_v the_o ship_n of_o christ_n church_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o 7._o the_o title_n of_o ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o h._n stephanus_n gr._n stephanus_n the_o saur_n l._n gr._n show_v to_o be_v use_v by_o thucydides_n demosthenes_n herodotus_n plato_n plutarch_n &_o other_o for_o the_o ruler_n of_o city_n of_o army_n &_o kingdom_n be_v that_o same_o which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o describe_v unto_o we_o those_o officer_n that_o bear_v rule_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o city_n of_o the_o live_a god_n and_o his_o spiritual_a kingdom_n rom._n 12.8_o 1._o thes_n 5.12_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o 8_o the_o title_n of_o elohim_n of_o elohim_n god_n which_o be_v so_o often_o use_v to_o express_v the_o dignity_n and_o authority_n of_o civil_a governor_n psal_n 82.1_o exo._n 21.6_o &_o 22.8_o 1._o sam._n 2.25_o etc._n etc._n be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o declare_v &_o signify_v the_o authority_n that_o they_o have_v though_o mr_n robinson_n 135._o robinson_n justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 135._o deny_v this_o title_n also_o unto_o they_o yet_o if_o we_o diligent_o weigh_v what_o the_o scripture_n say_v we_o may_v well_o discern_v that_o this_o title_n be_v also_o give_v to_o church-governors_n &_o minister_n for_o 1._o the_o description_n of_o those_o person_n to_o who_o this_o title_n be_v give_v be_v that_o they_o be_v such_o to_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n come_v such_o as_o the_o father_n have_v sanctify_v &_o send_v joh._n 10.35_o 36._o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o our_o saviour_n see_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v come_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n &_o ruler_n give_v they_o thereby_o a_o commission_n to_o administer_v in_o his_o name_n see_v such_o be_v sanctify_v &_o send_v of_o god_n we_o may_v hereby_o see_v how_o this_o title_n belong_v unto_o they_o 2._o by_o the_o exposition_n &_o application_n of_o the_o apostle_n those_o who_o in_o moses_n be_v call_v god_n &_o ruler_n exod._n 22.28_o be_v show_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a ruler_n act._n 23.5_o and_o howsoever_o some_o differ_v about_o this_o title_n yet_o be_v there_o of_o the_o learnede_a that_o do_v 6._o do_v jun._n &_o trem._n annot_n on_o ex._n 22.28_o jun._n anal_n expl_n ex._n 22_o 28._o joan._n rainol_n cens_fw-la lib._n apocr_n tom_fw-mi 1._o prael_n 6._o so_o interpret_v these_o place_n viz._n of_o such_o as_o have_v either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a administration_n commit_v unto_o they_o and_o if_o we_o come_v unto_o those_o author_n that_o be_v so_o much_o honour_v by_o you_o they_o will_v also_o confirm_v the_o same_o the_o 7.1_o the_o onkelos_n targum_fw-la on_o exo._n 4.16_o &_o 7.1_o chaldee_n paraphra_v upon_o those_o place_n where_o this_o title_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o moses_n translate_v it_o rab_n a_o master_n or_o doctor_n which_o be_v such_o a_o word_n as_o be_v give_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n other_o 22.28_o other_o aben_n ezra_n come_v on_o exo._n 22.28_o of_o the_o learnede_a jew-doctours_a do_v expound_v that_o title_n of_o the_o priest_n &_o levite_n &_o so_o apply_v it_o to_o church-governors_n another_o 22.28_o another_o baal_n hatturim_fw-la on_o exo._n 22.28_o cabalist_n often_o allege_v in_o your_o annotation_n do_v show_v these_o god_n mention_v in_o exo._n 22._o to_o be_v all_o kind_n of_o ruler_n over_o the_o people_n by_o his_o gematria_n because_o the_o numeral_a letter_n of_o the_o word_n elohim_n venasi_fw-la yield_v the_o same_o number_n with_o these_o hu_o dajan_n vecol_fw-mi shehu_fw-mi signify_v judge_n of_o

all_o sort_n the_o say_a word_n as_o they_o be_v write_v in_o their_o own_o letter_n be_v compare_v together_o either_o joint_o or_o several_o ii_o if_o the_o deacon_n may_v distribute_v some_o alm_n unto_o the_o poor_a without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n then_o may_v the_o elder_n also_o judge_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v prove_v by_o this_o because_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v as_o much_o right_a &_o authority_n to_o dispose_v of_o the_o church-treasure_n &_o alm_n as_o they_o have_v to_o judge_v of_o the_o offence_n that_o be_v commit_v therein_o this_o the_o scripture_n show_v by_o the_o example_n of_o sundry_a church_n of_o antiochia_n macedonia_n achaia_n etc._n etc._n act._n 11.29_o 30._o rom._n 15_o 25-28_a 1._o cor._n 16.3.2_o cor._n 8.1.4.19_o phil._n 2.25_o with_o c._n 4.18_o the_o assumption_n be_v manifest_a and_o your_o own_o practice_n confirm_v it_o iii_o if_o arbiter_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o some_o particular_a person_n may_v judge_v the_o cause_n of_o wrong_n &_o injury_n whether_o public_a or_o private_a wherein_o they_o strive_v against_o one_o another_o then_o may_v the_o elder_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n judge_v the_o cause_n &_o offence_n that_o arise_v when_o they_o willing_o submit_v unto_o the_o same_o but_o arbiter_n so_o choose_v may_v judge_v the_o cause_n refer_v unto_o they_o therefore_o the_o elder_n may_v do_v it_o also_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o proposition_n appear_v because_o the_o free_a &_o solemn_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n in_o any_o election_n give_v authority_n unto_o such_o person_n either_o in_o general_a or_o special_a work_n as_o well_o as_o the_o choice_n of_o any_o particular_a man_n in_o their_o cause_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 2._o cor._n 8.19_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o assumption_n appear_v by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n give_v such_o power_n of_o judgement_n unto_o arbiter_n 1._o cor._n 6.4_o 5._o if_o you_o answer_v hereunto_o as_o you_o 43._o you_o h._n ain_n animadv_n to_o mr_n clyfton_n p._n 43._o elsewhere_o expound_v this_o place_n that_o these_o controversy_n to_o be_v refer_v unto_o arbiter_n be_v for_o civil_a thing_n of_o this_o life_n that_o such_o be_v not_o church-matter_n nor_o there_o to_o be_v hear_v etc._n etc._n this_o be_v insufficient_a and_o will_v not_o help_v you_o see_v it_o appear_v by_o the_o text_n that_o these_o controversy_n in_o corinth_n may_v as_o well_o have_v be_v say_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o civil_a and_o belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o the_o magistrate_n or_o arbiter_n have_v their_o controversy_n be_v touch_v a_o wound_n or_o strike_v give_v touch_v any_o slander_n or_o theft_n which_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o may_v the_o apostle_n have_v say_v unto_o they_o thereupon_o all_o that_o he_o do_v 1._o cor._n 6_o 1-9_a for_o 1._o these_o be_v business_n which_o infidel_n magistrate_n in_o those_o time_n use_v to_o judge_v and_o the_o general_a speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n import_v as_o much_o v._o 1._o &_o 6._o 2._o the_o reason_n which_o the_o apostle_n use_v take_v from_o the_o honour_n &_o dignity_n of_o saint_n in_o their_o judgement_n of_o angel_n &_o the_o world_n serve_v to_o perswado_v they_o to_o submit_v the_o judgement_n of_o such_o cause_n to_o one_o another_o mutual_o as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o cause_n v._o 2_o 3._o 3._o the_o reason_n take_v from_o their_o shame_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o wise_a man_n among_o they_o to_o judge_v these_o cause_n serve_v to_o reprove_v they_o for_o a_o want_n of_o wisdom_n in_o ecclesiastical_a thing_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a 4._o the_o matter_n of_o controversy_n among_o they_o be_v of_o wrong_n &_o injury_n do_v to_o brethren_n v._o 7_o 8_o 9_o and_o these_o be_v sin_n &_o scandal_n belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n as_o do_v the_o judgement_n of_o 5.7_o of_o 2._o cor._n 10.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 5.7_o all_o know_a sin_n this_o argument_n be_v in_o effect_n yield_v unto_o by_o yourself_o when_o you_o 9_o you_o h._n ain_n animadv_n to_o mr_n clyf_n ton_fw-fr p._n 9_o allow_v the_o article_n of_o the_o discipline_n agree_v upon_o in_o the_o reform_a english_a church_n which_o be_v at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n for_o whereas_o in_o the_o 62._o art_n thereof_o in_o case_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n &_o other_o it_o be_v there_o conclude_v that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v &_o determine_v the_o say_a matter_n or_o matter_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v good_a unto_o the_o congregation_n hereupon_o in_o approbation_n of_o this_o discipline_n you_o observe_v that_o hereby_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o the_o learned_a &_o most_o conscionable_a of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v heretofore_o which_o if_o they_o have_v continue_v in_o will_v have_v free_v they_o of_o all_o antichristian_a prelacy_n the_o bane_n of_o so_o many_o church_n and_o hereupon_o i_o observe_v further_o against_o you_o how_o the_o reader_n may_v hereby_o see_v that_o if_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o arbiter_n as_o they_o will_v to_o hear_v &_o determine_v matter_n then_o may_v the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v this_o authority_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o then_o be_v it_o no_o unlawful_a usurpation_n for_o they_o to_o hear_v &_o determine_v some_o matter_n among_o the_o brethren_n by_o themselves_o iv_o if_o particular_a person_n may_v lawful_o pass_v by_o some_o lesser_a offence_n &_o leave_v they_o unto_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o offender_n without_o prosecute_v they_o or_o bring_v they_o to_o the_o church_n 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deut._n 17_o 8-12_a this_o order_n be_v also_o reestablish_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jehoshaphat_n who_o place_v and_o settle_v in_o jerusalem_n a_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n for_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n &_o these_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n and_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o come_v up_o unto_o they_o from_o other_o city_n &_o place_n of_o their_o habitation_n even_o as_o there_o be_v also_o a_o civil_a synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o king_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19_o 8-11_a this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o of_o david_n as_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o he_o point_v out_o distinct_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o senate_n 122._o senate_n see_v jun._n annot._n on_o psal_n 122._o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a throne_n of_o judgement_n and_o throne_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n whereunto_o the_o tribe_n even_o the_o tribe_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v go_v up_o psa_fw-la 122.4.5_o as_o paul_n once_o rejoice_v in_o the_o spirit_n to_o see_v the_o order_n of_o the_o colossian_n col._n 2.5_o so_o david_n consider_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o order_n declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v one_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o spiritual_a gladness_n &_o joy_n in_o the_o lord_n witness_v in_o that_o psalm_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o assembly_n &_o synagogue_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o independent_a but_o stand_v under_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o particular_a congregation_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o our_o opposite_n say_v to_o this_o i._o can._n 44._o can._n church_n plea._n p._n 43_o 44._o he_o seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n by_o the_o jewish_a polity_n &_o government_n now_o the_o papist_n to_o establish_v the_o sea_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_z mr_n paget_n intend_v to_o dispute_v this_o way_n they_o will_v carry_v it_o quite_o away_o from_o he_o but_o i_o think_v he_o will_v hereafter_o be_v more_o considerate_a and_o speak_v no_o further_o of_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o church_n government_n see_v he_o know_v the_o most_o learned_a on_o our_o side_n do_v condemn_v the_o papist_n for_o it_o viz._n 4._o viz._n animadv_n contr_n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o junius_n 2._o junius_n inst_z l._n 4._o c_o 6._o sect_n 2._o calvin_n 614._o calvin_n ag._n whitg_n l._n 2._o p._n 614._o cartwright_n 1._o cartwright_n contr._n 4._o qu._n 1._o d._n whitaker_n &_o other_o answ._n mr_n ainsworth_n before_o he_o speak_v much_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v 15.16_o say_v animadv_n p._n 15.16_o it_o be_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n to_o proportion_v the_o church_n now_o in_o the_o outward_a polity_n to_o israel_n the_o rhemist_n will_v have_v 23.2_o have_v rhem._n annot_fw-mi on_o mat._n 23.2_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n in_o the_o new_a law_n to_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n 1_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr rom._n pout_v l._n 4._o c._n 1_o make_v his_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o pope_n judge_v of_o controversy_n from_o the_o priest_n &_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o also_o he_o allege_v three_o of_o the_o same_o witness_n against_o argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n which_o here_o mr_n can_n cit_v again_o mr_n davenp_n plead_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n say_v 254._o say_v apol._n repl_n p._n 254._o the_o text_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v for_o the_o power_n of_o council_n in_o make_v law_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o answerer_n sometime_o harp_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n but_o junius_n clear_o show_v that_o they_o

rome_n so_o both_o do_v grant_v liberty_n of_o appeal_v unto_o synod_n yea_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n general_o both_o of_o greek_n and_o latin_n direct_v against_o the_o appeal_n make_v unto_o the_o pope_n do_v yet_o reserve_v a_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n unto_o synod_n this_o may_v be_v observe_v from_o d._n whit._n in_o his_o etc._n his_o de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n qu._n 4._o p._n 4_o 6._o &_o 48●_n etc._n etc._n large_a &_o ample_a defence_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o thessalonica_n as_o he_o call_v he_o and_o in_o his_o maintain_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o latin_n also_o and_o now_o if_o these_o appeal_n be_v grant_v then_o be_v the_o question_n clear_o grant_v and_o full_o yield_v unto_o i_o then_o be_v not_o all_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n limit_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n then_o be_v not_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v there_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o particular_a 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policy_n 276.277_o policy_n 8._o theol._n lib._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276.277_o allege_v this_o also_o deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o zepperus_n to_o show_v a_o divine_a warrant_n for_o the_o government_n of_o church_n by_o synod_n 709._o synod_n polit._n eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o p._n 707._o &_o 709._o allege_v these_o same_o place_n of_o scripture_n deut._n 17.8_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o ruardus_fw-la acronius_n in_o like_a manner_n in_o his_o treatise_n 13._o treatise_n cap._n 7._o with_o c._n 13._o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n &_o the_o government_n thereof_o to_o teach_v how_o the_o more_o weighty_a controversy_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v from_o synagogue_n and_o from_o particular_a congregation_n unto_o great_a assembly_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n this_o special_a place_n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n to_o omit_v many_o other_o how_o be_v it_o that_o mr_n can_v do_v so_o much_o forget_v the_o practice_n of_o his_o own_o sect_n 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the_o same_o use_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n iii_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o in_o describe_v the_o use_n of_o class_n to_o mention_v this_o only_a that_o they_o be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n see_v both_o they_o &_o those_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o help_n &_o benefit_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o and_o the_o church_n now_o as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n iu._n what_o reason_n have_v he_o also_o in_o speak_v of_o pastor_n now_o to_o add_v these_o word_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n see_v in_o the_o synagogue_n ancient_o their_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n have_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o now_o i._o dav_n it_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v ii_o that_o the_o cause_n in_o question_n which_o

church_n which_o be_v the_o title_n then_o give_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o his_o word_n of_o have_v as_o a_o publican_n &_o heathen_a do_v manifest_o prove_v he_o mean_v to_o speak_v according_a to_o their_o custom_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o his_o 276._o his_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276._o general_a description_n of_o a_o presbytery_n comprehend_v under_o it_o as_o well_o the_o government_n of_o many_o church_n by_o synod_n as_o of_o one_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o for_o the_o proof_n and_o warrant_v of_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o he_o allege_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18.18_o even_o as_o he_o do_v other_o place_n take_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n under_o the_o law_n mr_n brightman_n when_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v appoint_v a_o more_o accurate_a order_n for_o remove_v all_o of_o less_o offence_n then_o that_o which_o the_o pharisee_n observe_v who_o corrupt_v the_o law_n with_o their_o erroneous_a gloss_n condemn_v grosser_n sin_n as_o murder_n and_o neglect_v lesser_a transgression_n yet_o for_o the_o form_n of_o the_o judicatorie_a he_o declare_v that_o it_o be_v such_o a_o one_o as_o the_o former_a writer_n do_v witness_v to_o have_v be_v take_v from_o the_o jew_n policy_n when_o as_o he_o thus_o describe_v it_o 4._o it_o comment_fw-fr in_o cant._n cap._n 4._o the_o synedrion_fw-mi be_v a_o senate_n of_o elder_n watch_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o that_o congregation_n over_o which_o they_o be_v set_v in_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o manner_n &_o christian_a honesty_n which_o senate_n because_o it_o represent_v the_o state_n or_o etc._n or_o quoniam_fw-la vicem_fw-la sustineat_fw-la etc._n etc._n bear_v the_o place_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v call_v of_o christ_n himself_o the_o church_n say_v tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18.17_o and_o of_o paul_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o eldership_n 1._o tim._n 4.14_o and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o leaf_n show_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o text_n matth._n 18.15_o etc._n etc._n only_o remember_v thence_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o the_o whole_a congregation_n but_o a_o synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n of_o certain_a choose_a person_n and_o for_o aught_o that_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o this_o his_o exposition_n it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n but_o a_o renew_n and_o confirm_v of_o that_o which_o have_v be_v of_o old_a prescribe_v unto_o israel_n mr_n parker_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n whereby_o many_o particular_a church_n be_v combine_v &_o unite_v together_o argue_v also_o from_o mat._n 18._o and_o that_o after_o a_o double_a manner_n for_o first_o to_o show_v withal_o that_o the_o right_a manner_n and_o form_n of_o combination_n do_v consist_v in_o a_o mutual_a obligation_n of_o church_n without_o subjection_n unto_o the_o rule_n or_o dominion_n of_o any_o one_o he_o reason_n thus_o 331_o thus_o polit._n eccles_n 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only_o it_o appear_v thus_o i._o he_o do_v in_o this_o place_n manifest_o distinguish_v betwixt_o admonition_n &_o a_o charge_n or_o commandment_n which_o imply_v a_o great_a power_n and_o authority_n when_o as_o he_o say_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n round_o about_o that_o they_o shall_v advertise_v first_o which_o note_v their_o admonition_n and_o afterward_o sharp_o &_o severe_o charge_v which_o imply_v a_o commandment_n and_o authority_n therein_o therefore_o in_o scripture_n one_o and_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d word_n be_v usual_o and_o indifferent_o translate_v either_o to_o charge_n or_o command_v matt._n 10.5_o luk._n 8.29_o act._n 1.4_o &_o 4.18_o &_o 5.28_o 1._o tim._n 4.11_o with_o luk._n 5.14_o &_o 8.56_o 1._o tim._n 1.18_o &_o 5.7_o &_o 6.13_o 17._o thereby_o to_o express_v a_o special_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o use_v the_o same_o and_o the_o propriety_n of_o this_o word_n be_v thus_o declare_v by_o mr_n cartwr_n himself_o when_o expound_v those_o word_n of_o paul_n 1._o tim._n 6.13_o he_o say_v 177._o say_v t._n c._n 1_o rep._n p._n 177._o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o he_o say_v i_o denounce_v or_o i_o charge_v he_o do_v not_o say_v i_o exhort_v or_o give_v counsel_n leave_v it_o to_o the_o liberty_n of_o timothy_n and_o thus_o here_o we_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n to_o understand_v he_o when_o he_o tell_v how_o a_o classis_fw-la of_o minister_n and_o elder_n be_v sharp_o and_o severe_o to_o charge_v a_o church_n that_o they_o use_v a_o authority_n more_o than_o of_o exhort_v or_o admonish_v and_o counsel_v so_o that_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o liberty_n of_o they_o that_o be_v so_o charge_v ii_o he_o proceed_v further_a and_o after_o both_o admonition_n and_o a_o severe_a charge_n or_o prohibition_n he_o show_v that_o the_o classis_fw-la have_v yet_o more_o to_o do_v in_o this_o business_n if_o their_o charge_n be_v not_o regard_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o unlawful_a election_n viz._n that_o they_o confirm_v it_o not_o by_o suffer_v he_o to_o exercise_v any_o ministry_n whereas_o ordinary_o minister_n new_o elect_v be_v confirm_v and_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o some_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n near_o unto_o they_o this_o mr_n cartwr_n will_v have_v to_o be_v deny_v unto_o he_o and_o this_o denial_n of_o his_o ordination_n after_o his_o election_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v a_o kind_n of_o censure_n in_o some_o sort_n proportionable_a to_o the_o deposition_n of_o a_o minister_n already_o confirm_v see_v keep_a out_o or_o cast_v out_o from_o the_o ministry_n be_v action_n of_o like_a nature_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o mr_n fenner_n who_o be_v well_o acquaint_v with_o the_o meaning_n of_o mr_n cartwr_n in_o these_o thing_n point_v at_o when_o speak_v of_o a_o controversy_n rise_v in_o a_o church_n about_o the_o call_n of_o a_o minister_n he_o say_v 244._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 2._o p._n 244._o that_o the_o cause_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o the_o judge_n who_o it_o concern_v and_o who_o be_v after_o mention_v that_o they_o may_v either_o ratify_v the_o election_n or_o make_v it_o frustrate_v now_o in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n these_o judge_n be_v no_o other_o than_o class_n or_o synod_n whereof_o he_o afterward_o speak_v and_o this_o their_o abrogate_a and_o make_v void_a a_o unlawful_a election_n be_v a_o power_n more_o than_o simple_a admonition_n iii_o whereas_o mr_n cartwr_n here_o say_v that_o if_o either_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v fail_v of_o this_o duty_n or_o the_o church_n which_o be_v admonish_v rest_v not_o therein_o then_o to_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o next_o synod_n etc._n etc._n hereupon_o 173._o hereupon_o def._n of_o answ_n to_o admon_n p._n

same_o be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o such_o judge_n who_o as_o be_v before_o note_v may_v either_o 244._o either_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 243_o 244._o confirm_v or_o make_v void_a the_o election_n a_o plain_a acknowledgement_n of_o a_o lawful_a power_n out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n thereof_o iv_o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o the_o description_n 246._o description_n ibid._n p._n 245_o 246._o both_o of_o the_o elder_n office_n in_o general_a and_o of_o the_o rule_v elder_n in_o particular_a where_o the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o their_o office_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o elder_n in_o israel_n and_o from_o the_o government_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n as_o appear_v in_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o proof_n thereof_o as_o namely_o these_o beside_z other_z leu._n 4.13_o 14_o 15.2_o kin._n 6.32_o jer._n 19.1_o ezek._n 8.1_o neh._n 8.5.8.10_o act._n 4.5_o &_o 6.12_o &_o 5.21_o now_o see_v he_o derive_v their_o office_n from_o that_o form_n of_o government_n which_o be_v confess_v not_o to_o have_v be_v a_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n this_o be_v a_o evidence_n that_o he_o also_o do_v not_o hold_v jurisdiction_n to_o be_v limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n v._o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o distinguish_v the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n 281._o church_n ibid._n p._n 281._o into_o a_o synod_n or_o a_o general_n council_n and_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o thing_n he_o omit_v that_o description_n of_o a_o general_n or_o universal_a council_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v a_o presbytery_n consist_v of_o the_o deputy_n of_o many_o synod_n to_o determine_v and_o compound_v those_o thing_n that_o may_v be_v profitable_a for_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o for_o the_o great_a part_n thereof_o the_o word_n which_o he_o use_v to_o express_v the_o authority_n exercise_v therein_o when_o he_o say_v ad_fw-la ea_fw-la 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elder_n do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n administer_v all_o the_o business_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o mr_n f._n have_v not_o say_v i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v on_o the_o 276._o the_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o place_n as_o also_o on_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o his_o 279._o his_o pag._n 279._o transition_n from_o the_o general_a unto_o the_o species_n and_o several_a sort_n of_o the_o eldership_n and_o there_o to_o behold_v how_o gross_o mr_n d._n corrupt_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n and_o abuse_v the_o reader_n and_o that_o in_o a_o point_n of_o main_a consequence_n touch_v our_o question_n for_o while_n mr_n f._n give_v the_o same_o general_a definition_n to_o the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n viz._n to_o class_n and_o synod_n which_o he_o give_v unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o the_o same_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o give_v herein_o unto_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v also_o give_v 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in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a capital_a letter_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n see_v in_o the_o same_o 277_o same_o pa._n 277_o place_n speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n administer_v by_o the_o synod_n or_o presbytery_n in_o decide_v of_o doubt_n he_o say_v also_o etsi_fw-la authoritas_fw-la communis_fw-la sit_fw-la ministris_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la dicendi_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la exponendi_fw-la maxima_fw-la facienda_fw-la potestas_fw-la that_o be_v though_o the_o authority_n be_v common_a yet_o the_o great_a power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o declare_v it_o be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o the_o minister_n therefore_o do_v he_o not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n iii_o mr_n f._n a_o little_a after_o again_o speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n and_o still_o of_o administer_a they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o presbytery_n which_o contain_v the_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particular_a eldership_n he_o say_v of_o they_o ibiden_v they_o ibiden_v in_o quibus_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la summa_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestas_fw-la presbyterio_n demandata_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o throughout_o all_o church_n the_o high_a or_o chief_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o these_o passage_n mr_n d._n omit_v when_o he_o translate_v other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o period_n he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v his_o reader_n take_v knowledge_n of_o they_o iv_o whereas_o mr_n f._n require_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o fore-consultation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n comprehend_v both_o classis_fw-la and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o one_o and_o of_o many_o church_n joint_o together_o than_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o each_o of_o they_o several_o and_o there_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o many_o church_n that_o be_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n he_o say_v 280._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o p._n 280._o hic_fw-la autem_fw-la leges_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la condendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la here_o be_v ecclesiastical_a law_n to_o be_v make_v this_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n this_o mr_n d._n pass_v over_o also_o it_o be_v no_o policy_n for_o he_o to_o draw_v collection_n from_o such_o testimony_n vii_o that_o one_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr_n f._n oft_o 281._o oft_o ibid._n p._n 280_o 281._o allege_v 2._o cor._n 8.19_o 23._o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o allege_v with_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v there_o specify_v that_o the_o brother_n who_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v a_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o

voetius_fw-la last_o for_o that_o 29._o that_o case_n consc_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 29._o place_n which_o mr_n can_v object_v out_o of_o d._n ames_n i_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v something_o more_o find_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n then_o in_o any_o thing_n that_o mr_n dau._n have_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o but_o all_o that_o d._n ames_n there_o write_v be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v admit_v for_o in_o that_o chap._n the_o question_n be_v make_v 11._o make_v ibid._n qu._n 11._o whether_o whole_a church_n or_o member_n of_o another_o church_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v he_o answer_v they_o can_v proper_o be_v excommunicate_v he_o bring_v 3_o reason_n 1._o because_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o out_o of_o which_o it_o can_v no_o more_o be_v cast_v than_o out_o of_o itself_o but_o this_o reason_n be_v insufficient_a 1._o because_o though_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o yet_o not_o only_o in_o itself_o and_o with_o itself_o but_o with_o other_o church_n also_o eph._n 4.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 12.13_o and_o by_o excommunication_n it_o may_v be_v deprive_v and_o cut_v off_o from_o that_o comfortable_a fellowship_n to_o the_o great_a grief_n terror_n and_o shame_n thereof_o for_o their_o humiliation_n thereby_o and_o for_o the_o warn_n of_o other_o 2._o because_o a_o obstinate_a and_o rebellious_a church_n by_o a_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o itself_o and_o deprive_v of_o communion_n in_o itself_o either_o in_o the_o dissolution_n of_o that_o unlawful_a society_n while_o the_o magistrate_n help_v to_o execute_v the_o sentence_n or_o otherwise_o in_o make_v their_o communion_n abominable_a even_o unto_o their_o own_o conscience_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n work_v with_o his_o own_o ordinance_n in_o deliver_v they_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o deprive_v they_o of_o inward_a rest_n notwithstanding_o any_o pretend_a security_n of_o the_o obstinate_a his_o 2_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v flow_v from_o some_o superiority_n but_o all_o church_n be_v constitute_v of_o christ_n with_o a_o authority_n altogether_o equal_a this_o be_v also_o a_o weak_a reason_n for_o 1._o though_o all_o church_n be_v equal_a and_o no_o one_o above_o another_o yet_o many_o meeting_n together_o in_o a_o synod_n be_v superior_a to_o one_o as_o be_v show_v before_o by_o mr_n parker_n 129._o parker_n pol._n eccles_n 3._o p._n 129._o greater_n be_v the_o power_n of_o a_o synod_n then_o of_o any_o one_o prime_a and_o parishional_a church_n 2._o when_o two_o church_n only_o be_v by_o special_a covenant_n unite_v together_o as_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o necessary_o upon_o occasion_n though_o this_o combination_n be_v more_o imperfect_a yet_o be_v this_o 346._o this_o ibid._n p._n 345._o 346._o repute_v for_o a_o synod_n and_o though_o these_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o equal_a yet_o when_o one_o of_o they_o fall_v into_o error_n &_o offence_n than_o it_o become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o and_o the_o other_o have_v authority_n over_o it_o to_o rebuke_v &_o censure_v the_o same_o this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o proportion_n of_o two_o brethren_n member_n of_o one_o church_n though_o both_o of_o they_o be_v in_o their_o estate_n equal_a yet_o he_o that_o offend_v become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o who_o thereupon_o have_v power_n over_o he_o in_o a_o degree_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v a_o power_n of_o lose_v and_o forgive_a he_o if_o he_o repent_v a_o power_n of_o retain_v his_o sin_n and_o bind_v he_o over_o to_o further_a proceed_v if_o he_o do_v not_o repent_v luk._n 17.3_o 4._o with_o matt._n 18._o on_o this_o manner_n that_o general_a commandment_n of_o mutual_a subjection_n to_o one_o another_o 1._o pet._n 5.5_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n in_o two_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o two_o person_n his_o 3_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o member_n of_o one_o church_n be_v neither_o subject_n to_o the_o government_n of_o another_o neither_o do_v they_o belong_v immediate_o unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o by_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o own_o church_n come_v betwixt_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n touch_v subjection_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o there_o be_v no_o weight_n therein_o for_o those_o that_o belong_v unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o mediate_o be_v not_o therefore_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n of_o they_o and_o again_o the_o covenant_n of_o communion_n make_v at_o the_o first_o confederation_n of_o church_n for_o their_o mutual_a government_n by_o a_o synod_n remain_v firm_a for_o the_o continuance_n and_o exercise_n of_o authority_n either_o for_o or_o against_o some_o particular_a member_n of_o any_o one_o church_n in_o that_o combination_n although_o that_o church_n unjust_o violate_v their_o covenant_n shall_v refuse_v to_o consent_v or_o communicate_v with_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n of_o some_o scandalous_a person_n among_o they_o moreover_o that_o which_o d._n ames_n write_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n may_v just_o lead_v we_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o their_o authority_n in_o the_o censure_n of_o offender_n 1._o he_o add_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o question_n touch_v whole_a church_n &_o member_n of_o another_o church_n that_o though_o they_o may_v not_o proper_o be_v excommunicate_v 26._o excommunicate_v case_n con_fw-la l_o 4._o c_o 29._o q._n 11._o the_o 26._o yet_o for_o manifest_a heresy_n or_o great_a fault_n they_o may_v be_v condemn_v forsake_a reject_v which_o be_v proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o synod_n thus_o to_o condemn_v whole_a church_n than_o he_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v more_o power_n then_o only_o to_o counsel_n or_o admonish_v if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o not_o to_o class_n or_o synod_n the_o warrant_n from_o scripture_n ought_v to_o be_v show_v a_o censure_n proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n require_v a_o authority_n proportionable_a to_o they_o that_o may_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o execution_n thereof_o ii_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n propound_v this_o case_n of_o conscience_n 10._o conscience_n ibid._n q._n 10._o what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o pastor_n where_o a_o fit_a eldership_n be_v want_v or_o where_o the_o people_n do_v not_o consent_v unto_o ajust_a excommunication_n his_o resolution_n be_v the_o solemn_a proceed_n may_v be_v omit_v yet_o a_o good_a pastor_n ought_v to_o give_v all_o diligence_n hereunto_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faithful_a member_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o far_o preserve_v that_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o give_v unto_o dog_n &_o swine_n mat._n 7.6_o and_o that_o all_o public_a scandal_n be_v public_o reprooved_a but_o by_o this_o direction_n neither_o be_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o minister_n conscience_n provide_v for_o nor_o yet_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n for_o by_o what_o warrant_n may_v a_o pastor_n by_o his_o sole_a authority_n determine_v and_o reject_v some_o member_n as_o dog_n and_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o holy_a thing_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o this_o not_o only_o without_o allowance_n of_o the_o eldership_n but_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o it_o this_o be_v in_o effect_n a_o excommunication_n or_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o essence_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o excommunication_n great_a or_o less_o be_v the_o only_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o keep_v holy_a thing_n from_o be_v give_v unto_o dog_n to_o permit_v this_o authority_n unto_o the_o pastor_n alone_o be_v to_o open_v a_o door_n 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speech_n speak_v of_o synod_n expl_n synod_n zwingl_n art_n 8._o expl_n we_o willing_o believe_v say_v he_o that_o you_o be_v a_o representative_a church_n for_o a_o true_a church_n you_o be_v not_o but_o i_o pray_v you_o show_v we_o whence_o you_o fetch_v this_o name_n who_o have_v give_v you_o this_o name_n who_o have_v give_v you_o power_n to_o make_v canon_n impose_v thing_n on_o man_n shoulder_n grieve_v their_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n this_o reason_n be_v in_o substance_n the_o same_o with_o his_o five_o argument_n before_o and_o therefore_o idle_o repeat_v the_o ground_n of_o classical_a power_n be_v show_v 4._o show_v chap._n 2._o &_o 3_o &_o 4._o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o cavil_v of_o mr_n can_n against_o the_o same_o refute_v ii_o note_v his_o error_n of_o speech_n in_o distinguish_v the_o hierarchy_n from_o popish_a office_n by_o oppose_v they_o one_o against_o the_o other_o whereas_o according_a to_o the_o common_a acception_n of_o the_o 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of_o zwinglius_fw-la we_o oppose_v the_o testimony_n of_o all_o age_n and_o of_o the_o learned_a writer_n therein_o old_a and_o new_a papist_n and_o protestant_n that_o general_o be_v against_o he_o mr_n parker_n 369._o parker_n pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 26._o p._n 368_o 369._o say_v well_o all_o age_n have_v call_v the_o synod_n a_o representative_a church_n &_o beside_o many_o other_o witness_n he_o allege_v d._n whitaker_n argue_v thus_o against_o the_o papist_n 169._o papist_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 5._o c._n 3._o p._n 169._o the_o church_n be_v represent_v in_o the_o synod_n therefore_o if_o the_o church_n be_v above_o peter_n then_o be_v the_o synod_n also_o mr_n parker_n argue_v further_a except_o the_o synod_n do_v consist_v of_o the_o deputy_n of_o church_n synod_n can_v not_o represent_v the_o church_n and_o have_v there_o bring_v many_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n to_o show_v the_o power_n of_o church_n in_o send_v their_o deputy_n or_o delegate_n he_o conclude_v in_o 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affirm_v be_v but_o his_o bare_a assertion_n without_o scripture_n or_o other_o proof_n to_o confirm_v his_o reason_n but_o mr_n can._n be_v not_o yet_o come_v to_o such_o credit_n with_o we_o that_o his_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la his_o bare_a word_n may_v go_v for_o currant_n ii_o it_o be_v false_a which_o he_o say_v of_o hold_v two_o distinct_a form_n of_o church-government_n etc._n etc._n the_o particular_a congregation_n here_o in_o these_o reform_a church_n do_v in_o and_o of_o themselves_o exercise_v all_o god_n ordinance_n and_o yet_o withal_o stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o synodall_n authority_n be_v one_o of_o god_n ordinance_n though_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o local_a and_o personal_a presence_n of_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n this_o authority_n be_v exercise_v out_o of_o themselves_o yet_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o confederation_n and_o combination_n with_o neighbour_n church_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o deputy_n minister_n and_o elder_n or_o other_o that_o have_v place_n and_o suffrage_n in_o these_o synod_n this_o authority_n be_v exercise_v in_o and_o of_o themselves_o and_o though_o here_o be_v another_o act_n of_o authority_n yet_o be_v there_o but_o one_o distinct_a form_n of_o government_n iii_o it_o be_v as_o false_a which_o he_o say_v of_o hold_v two_o way_n to_o heaven_n and_o this_o not_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o reform_a church_n among_o themselves_o have_v the_o same_o government_n both_o by_o eldership_n at_o home_n and_o by_o synod_n abroad_o but_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o divers_a church_n have_v different_a form_n of_o government_n the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o these_o country_n though_o they_o have_v a_o different_a order_n of_o church-government_n yet_o hold_v together_o the_o same_o fundamental_a truth_n of_o the_o gospell●_n they_o both_o do_v hold_v but_o one_o way_n to_o heaven_n and_o so_o do_v both_o mutual_o

goulartius_n also_o in_o his_o annotation_n thereon_o observe_v that_o these_o synod_n be_v keep_v to_o this_o end_n that_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v preserve_v entire_a and_o that_o the_o disturber_n thereof_o may_v be_v exclude_v from_o their_o communion_n and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n cyprian_a be_v so_o pregnant_a in_o this_o point_n that_o whosoever_o shall_v allege_v he_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n must_v either_o be_v a_o very_a ignorant_a reader_n of_o cyprian_a or_o else_o a_o wilful_a abuser_n of_o he_o reas._n vii_o note_v the_o effect_n if_o it_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o which_o be_v that_o every_o particular_a congregation_n must_v hence_o necessary_o loose_v she_o own_o proper_a right_n in_o government_n &_o so_o of_o a_o mistress_n become_v a_o servant_n instead_o of_o be_v superior_a wilful_o vassal_n and_o enslave_v herself_o which_o thing_n be_v contrary_a to_o god_n will_v reveal_v in_o his_o word_n gal._n 5.1_o 1._o cor._n 7.23_o 2._o tim._n 1.13_o heb._n 4.14_o rev._n 2.25_o answ._n i._n this_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n with_o his_o nine_o argument_n before_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v here_o idle_o repeat_v ii_o the_o vassalage_n and_o slavery_n which_o he_o argue_v from_o classical_a government_n be_v upon_o a_o false_a consequence_n the_o liberty_n of_o innocent_a person_n oppress_v by_o wrong_a judgement_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o appeal_v unto_o class_n and_o synod_n the_o democraticall_a government_n that_o deny_v this_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v no_o gracious_a mistress_n but_o a_o tyrannical_a virago_n resemble_v the_o romish_a lady_n that_o by_o deny_v appeal_n from_o the_o pope_n keep_v many_o in_o bondage_n iii_o the_o scripture_n cite_v by_o he_o be_v all_o pervert_v and_o misapply_v for_o what_o force_n of_o consequence_n be_v in_o these_o reason_n viz._n stand_v fast_o in_o the_o liberty_n wherewith_o christ_n 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constitute_v any_o church_n with_o doctrine_n immediate_o establish_v in_o it_o 20._o it_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 1._o p._n 20._o ecclesiastical_a government_n for_o without_o this_o as_o d._n ames_n 214._o ames_n de_fw-fr conscience_n l._n 4._o c._n 24._o p._n 214._o say_v there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o couple_v of_o the_o part_n and_o member_n together_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v independent_a body_n and_o stand_v not_o under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o now_o how_o mr_n paget_n will_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v a_o change_n of_o this_o government_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o see_v especial_o consider_v that_o the_o learned_a as_o i_o show_v before_o do_v hold_v that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o certain_a necessary_a &_o perpetual_a form_n &_o manner_n of_o order_v church_n etc._n etc._n answ._n 1_o the_o consequence_n propound_v in_o this_o reason_n be_v false_a though_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o constitution_n 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that_o if_o his_o order_n of_o synod_n may_v be_v refuse_v by_o such_o as_o deserve_v ecclesiastical_a censure_n that_o then_o a_o door_n shall_v be_v open_v to_o all_o heresy_n &_o sect_n &_o all_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n whereunto_o christ_n send_v we_o shall_v be_v subvert_v etc._n etc._n the_o divine_n of_o embden_n 1●7_n embden_n ibid._n p._n 1●7_n accord_n with_o the_o rest_n and_o beside_o other_o reason_n for_o confirmation_n of_o synodall_n authority_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n they_o allege_v that_o very_a place_n of_o scripture_n act._n 20.28_o which_o my_o opposite_n pervert_v to_o a_o contrary_a end_n against_o i_o neither_o have_v they_o only_o in_o general_n show_v what_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v and_o also_o what_o this_o synod_n may_v do_v but_o the_o synod_n go_v further_a and_o proceed_v unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o power_n and_o pronounce_v sentence_n against_o those_o that_o persist_v in_o their_o error_n in_o the_o copy_n of_o that_o sentence_n 280._o sentence_n act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 138._o p._n 280._o there_o be_v divers_a act_n of_o their_o power_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o several_a expression_n &_o form_n of_o speech_n use_v therein_o as_o for_o example_n this_o synod_n of_o dort_n do_v serious_o instant_o and_o according_a to_o the_o authority_n which_o it_o have_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n over_o all_o the_o member_n of_o their_o church_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n require_v exhort_v admonish_v &_o enjoin_v all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o unite_a province_n doctor_n rectour_n master_n in_o the_o university_n &_o school_n etc._n etc._n the_o synod_n after_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n be_v in_o conscience_n well_o assure_v of_o their_o authority_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n follow_v the_o step_n of_o ancient_n &_o late_a synod_n etc._n etc._n 281._o etc._n p._n 281._o do_v interdict_v 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say_v if_o thy_o brother_n sin_n against_o thou_o etc._n etc._n so_o have_v moses_n do_v before_o thou_o shall_v not_o hate_v thy_o brother_n in_o thy_o heart_n etc._n etc._n as_o christ_n require_v not_o only_o a_o simple_a tell_n of_o the_o fault_n but_o a_o 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d convince_a of_o the_o offendor_n so_o have_v moses_n teach_v israel_n before_o tochiach_n before_o hocheach_v tochiach_n thorough_o to_o reprove_v or_o convince_v and_o not_o to_o suffer_v sin_n upon_o a_o brother_n mat._n 18.15_o with_o leu._n 19.17_o as_o christ_n in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o encourage_v unto_o this_o duty_n propound_v the_o win_n of_o a_o brother_n so_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n show_v how_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v a_o tree_n of_o life_n and_o how_o the_o wise_a do_v win_v soul_n prov._n 11.30_o thus_o far_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n the_o second_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v with_o witness_n if_o he_o hear_v thou_o not_o take_v 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thus_o due_o speak_v in_o his_o place_n or_o ophnan_o or_o gnal_n ophnan_o on_o the_o wheel_n of_o order_n in_o divers_a degree_n of_o admonition_n that_o it_o may_v run_v and_o prevail_v be_v like_o apple_n of_o gold_n in_o picture_n of_o silver_n prov._n 25.11_o the_o censure_n which_o follow_v upon_o the_o contempt_n of_o these_o admonition_n be_v excommunication_n or_o rejection_n of_o the_o obstinate_a offender_n mat._n 18.17_o this_o be_v no_o new_a kind_n of_o censure_n see_v excommunication_n be_v also_o a_o ancient_a ordinance_n a_o part_n of_o that_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n yea_o describe_v by_o the_o same_o phrase_n of_o ●●tting_v off_o exod._n 12.19_o num._n 15.30_o 31._o which_o be_v also_o use_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n gal._n 5.12_o as_o in_o israel_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n of_o separate_n from_o the_o congregation_n ezra_n 10.8_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o a_o equivalent_a phrase_n the_o like_a judgement_n be_v signify_v by_o denounce_v some_o to_o be_v accurse_v anathema_n or_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n gal._n 1.9_o and_o even_o in_o this_o text_n mat._n 18.17_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n be_v describe_v by_o declare_v man_n to_o be_v as_o heathen_n &_o publican_n there_o be_v not_o only_o a_o manifest_a allusion_n and_o respect_n unto_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o a_o commandment_n of_o the_o same_o order_n for_o avoid_v the_o obstinate_a by_o deny_v civil_a communion_n of_o eat_v &_o drink_v with_o excommunicate_n as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o publican_n mat._n 9.11_o luk._n 15.2_o and_o both_o religious_a &_o civil_a communion_n both_o in_o public_a &_o private_a as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o heathen_a act._n 11.2_o 3._o &_o 21.28_o 29._o neither_o can_v this_o rule_n be_v well_o understand_v without_o knowledge_n of_o the_o present_a practice_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o this_o behalf_n the_o confirmation_n of_o this_o censure_n be_v describe_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n by_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n and_o promise_n 1._o that_o this_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n give_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v ratify_v in_o heaven_n either_o for_o bind_v or_o lose_v mat._n 18.18_o and_o so_o moses_n set_v life_n and_o death_n blessing_n and_o curse_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n before_o israel_n call_v heaven_n &_o earth_n to_o record_v for_o confirmation_n to_o bind_v they_o to_o reverence_v those_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deut._n 30.19_o &_o 4.26_o 2._o as_o solomon_n under_o the_o law_n at_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n do_v by_o his_o prayer_n confirm_v israel_n in_o hope_n of_o have_v their_o prayer_n to_o ascend_v from_o earth_n to_o heaven_n 1._o king_n 8.30_o 31_o 32._o so_o christ_n here_o promise_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o which_o agree_v touch_v any_o thing_n on_o earth_n shall_v be_v grant_v in_o heaven_n vers_fw-la 19_o 3._o as_o josaphat_n for_o the_o establishment_n of_o the_o judaical_a policy_n encourage_v the_o judge_n with_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n presence_n &_o assistance_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o they_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o judgement_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o the_o good_a 2._o chron._n 19.6_o 11._o so_o here_o christ_n to_o encourage_v his_o servant_n in_o the_o observation_n of_o this_o order_n promise_v his_o presence_n to_o be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o two_o or_o three_o gather_v together_o in_o his_o name_n vers_fw-la 20._o thus_o it_o appear_v from_o the_o enumeration_n of_o all_o the_o several_a part_n of_o this_o rule_n compare_v with_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o this_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n though_o there_o be_v many_o other_o ceremonial_a and_o temporary_a ordinance_n in_o the_o law_n for_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n and_o uncleanness_n yet_o so_o far_o as_o concern_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18._o there_o be_v no_o new_a order_n prescribe_v herein_o here_o be_v nothing_o specify_v which_o be_v not_o teach_v before_o even_o those_o witness_n before_o allege_a by_o mr_n can_n and_o before_o he_o by_o mr_n ainsw_n do_v testify_v the_o same_o they_o and_o other_o the_o most_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n the_o star_n of_o the_o church_n subscribe_v unto_o this_o truth_n and_o bear_v witness_n with_o we_o unto_o this_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o argue_v divers_a way_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n from_o this_o place_n mat._n 18._o and_o special_o in_o this_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n calvine_n speak_v of_o this_o rule_n and_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n prescribe_v therein_o say_v plain_o 4._o plain_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11._o §_o 2._o &_o 4._o christus_fw-la nihil_fw-la hîc_fw-la novum_fw-la instituit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n here_o institute_v no_o new_a thing_n but_o follow_v the_o custom_n always_o observe_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o his_o own_o nation_n whereby_o he_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n can_v not_o want_v the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n which_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o he_o also_o apply_v unto_o the_o jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o synod_n when_o he_o write_v 2._o write_v ibid._n c._n 9_o §_o 2._o if_o it_o be_v demand_v what_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v from_o the_o scripture_n there_o be_v no_o clear_a promise_n extant_a then_o in_o this_o sentence_n of_o christ_n where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o in_o my_o name_n there_o be_o i_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o mat._n 18.20_o again_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o those_o word_n tell_v the_o church_n he_o say_v 18.17_o say_v harm_n evang._n in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o quaestion_n be_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n for_o paul_n command_v that_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v not_o by_o any_o choice_n number_n but_o by_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o godly_a 1._o cor._n 5.5_o 6._o and_o therefore_o it_o may_v seem_v probable_a that_o the_o judgement_n be_v here_o refer_v unto_o all_o the_o people_n but_o because_o there_o be_v then_o no_o church_n which_o have_v give_v the_o name_n unto_o christ_n nor_o such_o a_o manner_n appoint_v but_o that_o the_o lord_n speak_v as_o of_o a_o usual_a and_o receive_a custom_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o he_o allude_v unto_o the_o order_n of_o the_o old_a church_n even_o as_o in_o other_o place_n also_o he_o apply_v his_o speech_n unto_o the_o know_a custom_n etc._n etc._n so_o therefore_o he_o now_o have_v respect_n unto_o the_o form_n of_o discipline_n which_o be_v receive_v among_o the_o jew_n because_o it_o will_v have_v be_v absurd_a to_o propound_v the_o judgement_n of_o a_o church_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o moreover_o see_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v now_o in_o the_o

the_o manner_n of_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n bucanus_n also_o describe_v this_o discipline_n say_v 12._o say_v loc._n con_v loc_fw-la 44._o de_fw-fr discipl_n qu._n 12._o christ_n have_v express_o appoint_v this_o order_n translate_v unto_o we_o from_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n and_o again_o 22._o again_o ibid._n qu._n 22._o christ_n do_v not_o describe_v a_o temporary_a but_o a_o perpetual_a order_n of_o his_o church_n mat._n 18.17_o where_o follow_v the_o custom_n that_o have_v be_v always_o observe_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o the_o jew_n he_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n can_v want_v that_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n which_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n and_o lest_o any_o shall_v blame_v we_o that_o we_o seem_v to_o be_v draw_v with_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o late_a writer_n the_o same_o 49.50_o same_o dissert_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccles_n p._n 49.50_o gersom_a bucerus_n do_v also_o allege_v divers_a of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n as_o 5._o as_o in_o 1._o tim_n 5._o ambrose_n 4._o ambrose_n in_o 1._o tim._n 4._o theodoret_n 20._o theodoret_n in_o joan._n l._n 6._o cap._n 20._o cyrill_n 6._o cyrill_n in_o cant._n cap._n 6._o gregorius_n magnus_n agree_v with_o we_o that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n succeed_v the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n have_v borrow_v from_o thence_o the_o form_n of_o her_o polity_n and_o the_o order_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v many_o other_o but_o that_o i_o have_v further_a occasion_n to_o do_v it_o hereafter_o in_o answer_v the_o objection_n from_o the_o pervert_v testimony_n both_o of_o new_a &_o old_a writer_n it_o be_v not_o here_o to_o be_v omit_v that_o mr_n johnson_n pastor_n of_o the_o separatist_n who_o have_v be_v a_o principal_a instrument_n in_o oppugn_v this_o interpretation_n of_o matt._n 18._o by_o who_o writing_n many_o have_v be_v confirm_v in_o their_o opposition_n against_o we_o have_v yet_o before_o his_o death_n after_o long_a experience_n 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be_v remove_v he_o restore_v the_o pure_a use_n of_o excommunication_n ii_o how_o great_a soever_o the_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n of_o governor_n &_o government_n be_v in_o christ_n time_n yet_o be_v not_o the_o godly_a require_v then_o to_o renounce_v or_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n christ_n himself_o both_o by_o his_o example_n &_o his_o commandment_n teach_v otherwise_o while_o he_o both_o communicate_v therewith_o himself_o matt._n 26.17_o 18._o and_o likewise_o require_v other_o to_o do_v the_o same_o luk._n 17.14_o mat._n 8.4_o &_o 23.2_o 3._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n and_o his_o ministry_n be_v holy_a ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n see_v christ_n teach_v his_o people_n to_o go_v unto_o the_o worship_n &_o ministry_n of_o the_o jew_n either_o in_o synagogue_n or_o temple_n what_o reason_n be_v there_o to_o think_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v forbid_v to_o repair_v unto_o their_o government_n in_o their_o synedrion_fw-mi or_o presbytery_n moreover_o as_o our_o saviour_n teach_v ordinary_o in_o the_o synagogue_n and_o in_o the_o temple_n whither_o the_o jew_n always_o resort_v john_n 18.20_o matt._n 4.23_o so_o there_o be_v some_o righteous_a and_o faithful_a man_n governor_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o christ_n time_n who_o though_o they_o consent_v not_o unto_o evil_a and_o unrighteous_a judgement_n but_o testify_v against_o they_o luk._n 1.6_o joh._n 7.50_o 51._o luk._n 23.50_o 51._o yet_o be_v they_o not_o require_v to_o forsake_v their_o office_n and_o their_o government_n and_o if_o they_o may_v lawful_o retain_v their_o office_n and_o government_n why_o may_v not_o other_o resort_n unto_o they_o in_o their_o government_n and_o seek_v redress_n of_o offence_n and_o so_o by_o they_o tell_v the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n mat._n 18.17_o iii_o for_o the_o further_a clear_v of_o this_o point_n concern_v which_o many_o be_v diverse_o mind_v and_o many_o stumble_v at_o this_o day_n also_o upon_o occasion_n of_o a_o like_a difficulty_n mind_v and_o many_o stumble_v at_o this_o day_n also_o upon_o occasion_n of_o a_o like_a difficulty_n doubt_v what_o be_v meet_v to_o be_v do_v when_o corruption_n do_v abound_v in_o a_o true_a church_n as_o the_o jew_n in_o christ_n time_n be_v when_o as_o yet_o some_o of_o the_o minister_n &_o governor_n thereof_o do_v become_v oppressor_n of_o the_o godly_a &_o persecutor_n of_o the_o truth_n we_o be_v therefore_o to_o observe_v divers_a rule_n of_o direction_n according_a to_o which_o both_o the_o jew_n then_o and_o christian_n now_o in_o such_o case_n be_v to_o carry_v themselves_o 1._o there_o be_v a_o difference_n to_o be_v put_v betwixt_o the_o cause_n and_o matter_n of_o complaint_n about_o which_o man_n have_v occasion_n to_o go_v to_o the_o jew_n synedrion_fw-mi or_o eldership_n there_o be_v some_o kind_n of_o sin_n as_o of_o open_a theft_n adultery_n extortion_n sacrilege_n 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