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A33929 A compendious discourse about some of the greatest matters of Christian faith propounded and explained between a minister and an enquiring Christian ... : and also may serve for an answer to two books, one called The practical discourse of the sovereignty of God, the other called The death of death, by the death of Christ, written by J.O. : whereunto is annexed a very brief appendix / written by T. Collier. Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691. 1682 (1682) Wing C5274; ESTC R20632 146,911 256

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to be Wiser in our own Conceit than our Lord and Law-giver 4. Whoever fixeth the sin and damnation of the World on the eternal Decree of God and not on mans chosen and willful wickedness as the first just and deserving cause thereof but fathers both the sin and Judgment on the eternal Decree of God as the first cause of both denyeth the Scripture belieth the Lord and believeth a lie Ezek. 33. 11. Joh. 3. 16 19. 1 Tim. 2. 4. Rev. 22. 17. 5. Whoever denyeth the Love God to the world in the gift of his Son affirming that he loved but a few of the Elect only denieth the Scripture and believeth a lye Luk. 2. 10. Joh. 3. 16. 6. Whoever denieth that Jesus Christ gave himself for the life of the World a ransom for all a Propitiation for the sins of the World affirming that he died but for a few the Elect only denieth the Scripture and believeth a lye Joh. 6. 51. 1 Tim. 2. 6. 1 Joh. 2. 2. 7. Whoever affirmeth that men are no more capable to believe and obey the Gospel unto life than Bruit Beasts or Stones or a dead Corps and yet that God will damn them for not believing thereof it being both unscriptural irrational and dishonourable unto God denieth the Scripture and doth open wrong both to God and men and believeth a lye Ro 3. 3 4 5. 8. Whoever believeth and teacheth Salvation by an inconditional Covenant and Justification by faith without works denieth the Scripture and believeth a lye Mar. 16. 15 16. Rev. 22. 14. Jam. 2. 20. Christ Ro. 4 5. Is much made use of to prove Justification by faith without works But to him that worketh not but believeth on him that Justifieth the ungodly his faith is counted for righteousness Min. 1. If we hold Justification without works a● must then hold Salvation without works because every Justified person is in a saved state Ro. 8. 30. and so bid a due to works both as to Justification and Salvation 2. So to understand the Apostle in this or any other Scripture is to set him in direct opposition to Christ and all the Apostles which we may in no case do 1. Contrary to Christ Mat. 7. 21 24. and contrary to his Commission for Gospel Preaching and Salvation Mat. 16. 15 16. 2. Contrary to the rest of the Apostles Heb. 5. 9. 10. 36. 12. 14. Contrary to James ch 2. 24. Ye see then how that by works a man is Justified and not by faith only ch 1. 22. 25. Contrary to Peter 2 Pet. 1. 5. to 12. and Contrary to John 1 Joh. 2. 3 4 5 6. v. 17. he that doth the will of God abideth for ever 3. So to understand Paul in that Scripture not only sets Paul against Christ and all the Apostles but against himself and that in the same Epistle who Commonly states Salvation upon Obedience to the Gospel tho not as the deserving cause but as the Terms without which is no Obtaining thereof ch 2. 7 8 9 10. and we may not suppose the Apostle to be so inconsiderate as to contradict himself and that in the same Epistle 4. It 's most Aparent the Apostle intends not Gospel works in that place but the works of the Law as such compared with ch 3. 20 21. By the deeds of the Law there shall no Flesh be Justified v. 28. Therefore we conclude that a man is Justified by faith without the deeds of the Law but not without the deeds of the Gospel that contradicts the whole Gospel and the design of the Apostle as is most apparent 9. Whoever denieth the danger of believers falling from grace now in this imperfect state and holdeth and teacheth the impossibility thereof doth wrong to me● denieth the Scripture and believeth a lie Rom. 8 13 11. 20. Heb. 3. 12 4. 11. 2 Pet. 3. 17. 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. 10. Whoever denieth the restitution of all things the world to come and the eternal Kingdom and Glory of Christ and his Church therein denyeth the Scripture and believeth a lie Act. 3. 21. 2 Pet. 3. 13. Rev. 11. 15 22. 5. Mar. 10. 30. 11. Whoever believeth and teacheth that when Christ the Lord and Judge doth come again from Heaven to judge the world in righteousness Act. 17. 31. that he will ●urn up the world and not make it new and carrry away the saints with him to heaven and send all the world eternally to hell in their sense viz. that none of them shall have any advantage at all by the womans seed denieth the truth and glory of Christs undertaking for the world and a great part if not the whole of his kingdom and glory in the world to come and so denieth the Scripture and believeth a lie the truth of this see cleared in the next chapter 12. Whoever demeth the free operations of the Gospel Spirit in the word and work of Grace or in the ministerial gifts in prophesie and preaching as sufficient thereunto limiting Gospel ministerial gifts and offices in the Church of Christ to human acquired abilities denieth the sufficiency of the Gospel Spirit in the Gospel work introducing the human spirit instead thereof and is in the depth of the Apostacy 1 Cor. 2. 12 12. 4. 7. 13. Whoever setteth up the common light that is in all men instead of Christ and the Spirit of the Gospel is in the Apostacy and believeth a lye Christ Some sa● that some of these things Especially the 4 5 6 7 8 9 particuars are the great Bulwarks against popery and that to assert such things as these tends to weaken the protestants and to strengthen the hands of the Papists Min. I hope these are not the best Bulwarks and strength of Protestants against Papists if it were it would surely fail in the time of need 2. If these things has been the strength of Protestants against Popery it 's no marvel so little is done for advantage to the Protestant interest and conviction of Papists if we lay the foundation in falshood and build thereupon it 's no marvel we are not blest of God and Popery gain upon us 3. Let Protestants fall in with the truth of the Gospel as it is in Jesus both in principle and practice Especially in these great and fundamental parts thereof and they will have enough to bear up with great authority from Scripture against Popery in all its parts 1. Hold firm to this both in principle and practice that the Scripture is in it self the alone sufficient ground and rule in all matters of Christian faith and Religion and needs not the Churches Authority for it's warrant nor the inventions traditions or additions of men which as it's a Christian so it 's a Protestant principle 2. Let the Express letter plain reason and scope of Scripture united in and with it self without the harsh and contradictory interpretations of men or consequences drawn contrary to and against the express light language and
thing mistaken I would gladly be informed therein from Scripture light and right reason Isa 8. 20. the things being of great if not of greatest concern and if I mistake not are all of them the revealed things of Divine wisdom and therefore it belongs to us to be enquiring thereinto and on these grounds I am not willing to doubt your ready and inoffensive reception of my poor endeavours in these great matters with this my Dedication Considering first that you know though all men are not skilled in the Langudges nor in artificial Philosophy yet it is radically in all rational men without which they could not be capable either of artificial attainments or of Divine teachings 2 That you know God is at liberty in his teaching and always has been so and therefore may as formerly he has done led the unlearned into truth asson as the learned and sometimes before them Luke 10. 21. 1 Cor. 1. 26. to 29. Therefore let not the Learned despise the unlearned nor the unlearned judge the learned but prize and own the teachings of God in each other let us be humble and self denying let us own truth and reject error where ere we find it and thus it will be where Christ and Grace rules O that none of us all may give the Lord cause to say of us as of his people of old Hos 8. 12. I have written to him the great things of my law and they were counted as a strange thing I desire that none of the great things God has written to us in his Gospel law of grace may be accounted strange by us And thus not to detain you any longer in this Dedication I commit the ensuing Discourse to your most serious considerations and the like unto all into whose hands it may come if any thing therein carry not Scripture authority in it let it not be credited but if it do take heed and beware how you contradict it this and no other is expected by him who longeth for the manifestation of the Gospel in its truth purity and power the glory of God and the good of all men Fare ye well T. C. THE PREFACE TO THE READER Christian Reader THis ensuing Treatise or Christian discourse as it s brought forth by special occasion so it s really designed for thy special profiting and spiritual advantage the name of God and Christ the truth of the Gospel the spiritual and Eternal good of men being greatly concerned in the matters discoursed on altho its true that by reason of the Apostacy and other occasions we may truly say that darkness yea gross darkness hath covered us and the vail and covering spread over all Nations hath very much bewildred us and that in the great things of the glorious Gospel of the blessed God And that which is most of all to be lamented is that we are willing to have it so if any glimmerings of light but begin to appear out of the darkness we cry out upon it as if some prodigious Comet or foul spirit had appeared and that it may be before we so much as admit of a serious search and due consideration whether it be true or false A wonderful perverse spirit seems to be in us on this account Many I am perswaded crying out on that they never saw and others on that they never read with deliberation and judgment seriously pondering it in the balance of the sanctuary and so speak evil of the things they understand not which necessarily may tend to bring under that wo. Isa 5 20. Wo to them that call evil good and good evil that put darkness for light and light for darkness If we are so averse in our minds as not to have patience to ponder ought but what our selves indulge be it right or wrong and cry down all that seems contrary thereunto we may cry down truth for errour and cry up errour instead of truth it s an old and known proverb the burnt child dreads the fire the sence of which laid to heart would tend to make us more wise For help and cure in this matter I shall premise a few things to serious consideration 1. That its a matter of highest concern to us all to understand believe and obey the truth to love the truth and peace it being truth that must intrest us in Gospel freedom and without the saving knowledge thereof we may not expect to obtain it Joh. 8 31 32. 2. That we all come short in our knowledge and understanding of the great things of the Gospel and may and must say if we say right even in this very matter that in many things we offend all and need the mercy of God in our Lord Jesus to pardon and cover our ignorances if not our wilfulness which on our repentance he is ready to do 3. That notwithstanding this vail of darkness and ignorance too much of wilfulness yet in the due and true sence thereof and as it s our great concern if we be duely and diligently searching and enquiring after the knowledg of the mind and will of God as revealed in the word of his Grace and that in all things relating to matters both of Faith and practice it s his promise that in this way knowledge shall be increased And then shall they know if they follow on to know the Lord. Dan. 12 4. Hos 6 3. 4. And as an encouragement herein and as it s generally in word acknowledged that matters of fundamental concern are plainly and not darkly stated in the Scriptures which is or should be of encouragement to us all to be enquiring thereinto and to strike dead that spirit and practice of putting harsh interpretations on the plain revealed will of God in the Gospel so darkening if not outing and ending even the fundamental truths thereof the divine revelation being the alone ground and rule of our faith and practice in all matters of Gospel concern 5. And yet that we are moderate in our notions and not impose our apprehensions and supposed light on others no otherwise than the apprehended truth thereof takes place in the understanding and conscience imposition any other ways being the Babylonish apostatised spirit and is far from the spirit of the Gospel where is most of Gospel light and truth obtained such are furthest from an imposing spirit on others 2 Cor. 1. 24. Phil. 3. 15 16. 1 Pet. 5. 3. and those who are most in the flesh and involved in darkness are ordinarily the greatest imposers of their supposed light upon others Joh. 16. 2. Gal. 4. 29. 2 Thes 2. 3 4. 6. And yet it concerns the children of light as to concrete in so earnestly to contend for the faith as it was once delivered to the Saints Jude v. 3. Tho all should be done in the Gospel spirit of love and peace which I hope I can say has been my design in all and would be my joy to see more of love and peace among all profest Christians as
any impartial person may understand in my healing Word or endeavour for peace annexed to my additional word tho hitherto I may truely say as the Apostle 2 Cor. 12. 15. the more I love the less am I loved and as Ps 120. 7. I am for peace but when I speak thereof they are for War I think I may safely say that those manifold divisions and by reason thereof through pride enmities and contentions for only by pride cometh contentions Pro. 13 10. ariseth from mens being wiser than what is written not submitting to the plain testimony of the Divine record but make human and harsh interpretations and inventions both in matters of faith and practise and then quarrel with those who in conscience to God dare not believe and do as they would impose upon them I think I may safely say that this has been and is the cause of almost all the contentions divisions enmities and persecutions among profest Christians ofttimes self-interest viz. profit honour and applause concurring therewith attended with pride and an itching desire after domination And the alone way for Christians to obtain more unity love and peace is humbly to submit themselves to the plain and express terms of the Divine record especially in all fundamental matters of faith and life without human inventions and interpretations in which way they might easily come to unite and if in any thing they conscientiously differ to bear with each other in love allowing the same liberty to each other as every one for himself rightfully claims the contrary being irreligious irrational and brutish My method in the ensuing discourse is in dialogue wise by way of Question and Answer as it were between a minister and an enquiring Christian the reason thereunto moving me is because as the things are in themselves of weighty if not of weightiest concern and that which many are inquiring into so in this method I have had the advantage to make things plain and familiar to the weakest capacity as likewise to answer such questions and objections about these ma●ters as are most usual among men And my humble and earnest desire is that you kick not nor winch either at the instrument or the matter for the instruments sake God being at liberty to make use of whom he pleases in his work if the instrument has been running to and fro it may be more than some others and has been it may be sometimes out and sometimes in don't reproach it may be his industry has been blest of God with increase and may judge those who lie still being full as if they had obtained all judging and passing the sentence of Heresie on all that 's new to them tho it may be the good old truths of the Gospel My d●sign in the plainness and closeness of the ensuing discourse is not reproach to any but to ingage all concerned herein to search and trie and where they find just cause to turn from their errours to the truth Its Scripture light I have been prying into and that not dark harsh and forced interpretations nor from any single text of Scripture but the plain testimony of Divine record compared and united in the true harmony and unity of it self as I am yet greatly satisfied Yet notwithstanding I shall readily and thankfully imbrace any sober offers of information of any mistake if any be or of further light in these or any matters of Gospel concern and so I commit it to the judicious Reader praying the Lord he may not sin in rejecting truth nor in receiving errour desiring the God of all light and grace to lead into all needful truth Amen The things discoursed on in the ensuing treatise are as followeth Chap. 1. OF the sovereign power of God as exercised over men opened and cleared in opposition to the dishonourable abuses thereof Ch. 2. Treateth of Election Ch. 3. Of the Extent of the love of God to and death of Christ for the World Ch. 4. What the Gospel is and what is the faith of the Gospel to which the life thereof is promised Ch. 5. Of the power and will of Man to believe the Gospel Ch. 6. Of the Nature of man and the original defilement thereof and whether it brought us under the first death only or under the second death also as some affirm Ch. 7. Of the Apostasie from the Faith what it is and wherein it consists Ch. 8. Treateth of the General restitution and Salvation in the World to come and of the Kingdom of Christ therein Ch. 9. Sheweth that to hold truth in unity is honourable to God and safe for our selves Ch. 10. That God intendeth what he speaketh and will perform it and that its greatly dishonourable to him for any to speak or think the contrary Some of the greatest matters of Christian Faith propounded and explained by way of Question and Answer as it were between a Minister and an enquiring Christian CHAP. I. Of the Sovereignty of God as exercised over the World ever since the creation opened and cleared in opposition to the dishonourable abuses thereof Christ HAving this opportunity I desire to be enquiring into some of the great things of Christianity and matters of Faith that concerns the glory of God and our own eternal welfare if your time and opportunity will admit a discourse about such things as are of weighty concern Min. As for time and opportunity I think we cannot improve it better than for the glory of God and our own eternal welfare that being the great end of our Creation and Redemption and therefore I freely imbrace your motion What are the things you desire to enquire into Christ The things I desire to enquire into I think are of weightiest concern and yet are differingly understood and believed by men into which I desire to enquire really for satisfaction it being in my understanding of so great and weighty concern as that without steering right therein we can neither honour God nor be safe our selves Min. If it be so as its worthy our time which cannot be better spent so according to the best of my understanding in the word of l●ght and truth I shall endeavour your satisfaction what is the first thing you desire to enquire into Christ The first thing is about the Sovereignty of God over mankind whether it be a truth that God has Sovereign power over all and does dispose of all according to the counsel of his own will Min. That Sovereign power belongeth to God i e that the great God ble●sed for ever the great Creator of all hath the absolute right and power over all his creatures to determine and dispose of them as seemeth him good is without all ju●● ground of doubt that as he is the great Creator and God alone so he must needs have the Sovereign right and power to dispose of all according to the Counsel of his own will Isa 46. 9 10. Christ As for the Sovereign right and power in God
of our Nature thereby whatever it be without act or consent to sin shall bring under the guilt and punishment of the second Death the contrary being unscriptural and irrational to be imagined CHAP. VII Of the Apostasie spoken of in Scripture Christ I Desire to enquire into the Apostasie spoken of in Scripture what you understand it is and wherein it does consist Min. That there is an Apostasie from the Faith prophetically foretold in Scripture I think is that which few do doubt or question but what it is and wherein it does consist I fear but few do rightly enquire into but all are willing to excuse themselves and put it upon others as Adam upon the Woman and the Woman upon the Serpent so it is put all upon the Pope and upon the Devil far enough from our selves neither Papist nor Protestant will have any share therein but put it upon each other thou art the Man and not I. Christ The case being so on what particular Sort or Sect of People by Name may it be fixed Min. I shall not fix it only on any particular Sort or Sect of People by name but give some account what it is and wherein it consists and where the Marks thereof are found there it 's likely to be tho I cannot leave out the Turkish Alkoran and Mahometan Religion nor the Papal profession as chief and head in this Apostasie the one professing to own Christ but only as a great Prophet but Mahomet to be greater the other to own Christ really in word but the Pope ●● be his Vicar great High Priest and head of the Church and so truly and really in act and deed to be above him as is manifest by all his doings but in as much as it has spread it self so universally and containeth such variety of parts I shall only endeavour its discrimmation leaving the application to all concerned therein 1. Then I conclude that the Apostasie spoken of in Scripture consists in departing from the truth of the Gospel both in matters of Faith and practice but chiefly in matters of Faith because Faith includes practice and practice followeth Faith and that it 's stated in these and the like Scriptures 2 Thes 3. to 12. Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there be a falling away first c. Which falling away as it 's explained to relate to the Man of sin so it is to believe lies vers 3 11. 1 Tim. 4. 1 2 3. Now the Spirit speaketh expresly that in the latter times some shall depart from the Faith 2 Tim. 3. 1 to 9. This know also that in the latter days perillous times shall come and vers 8. They are reprobate or of no judgment concerning the Faith ch 4. 4. They shall turn away their Ears from the truth and be turned unto Fables Now our search must be to find out where these things really are and there the apostasie is where ever lies are believed in stead of truth and the truth thereby denyed such are in the apostasie that consisting in believing lies 1. Whosoever denieth Jesus Christ crucified for our sins raised and ascended to be the Son of God and the Son of David truly God and man and as so to be the alone foundation of Gospel faith grace and glory denyeth the gospel and the faith thereof and is in the Apostasie 1 Cor. 3. 11. 2. 2. 15. 3. 4. Luk. 2. 32. 2. Who ever denyeth in word or deed Jesus Christ crucified raised and ascended to be the alone head Lord and Lawgiver of and to his Church and that subjection in all things does not of right belong to him is deeply in the apostasie Eph. 5. 23 24. Col. 1. 18. Act. 3. 22. Luk. 19. 14. 27. Christ But few profest Christians will in word deny these things but all profess to own him as the Foundation Head and Lord of his Church Min. Notwithstanding persons may in word confess him so to be yet whoever layeth any other foundation of faith and life than Jesus Christ crucified or chooseth to themselves or submitteth to any other Lord or Law giver in things truly divine and Spiritual viz in matters of Gospel saith and Worship besides Christ the Lord whether Papal or others do really and indeed deny Christ to be the foundation of Christian faith or to be the Head and Lord of his Church and whoever accepteth such a headship Executing thereof usurpeth his Authority of whom the papal Head has been chief and leader in this matter the exercise of human coercive power in things properly belonging to Jesus Christ viz. all matters of faith and worship wherein conscience toward God and our Lord Jesus Christ alone is concerned being that which does really out and end his Lordship and rule in this matter and in this the Scripture seems to place the head of the apostasie at which door most of the errours both in faith and Worship has been ushered in 2 Thes 2. 4. gives us a full discription of this Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is Worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God viz he setteth himself and sitteth where God alone should rule viz in and over the conscience in divine things which is proper only to Jesus Christ giving Laws to men on this account which must be submited to whatever Jesus Christ the Lord has said to the contrary and wherever and as long as this Spirit liveth and worketh the Pope nor Apostasie will not die 3. Who ever denyeth the Holy Scriptures to be the alone ground and rule of Christian faith in all matters of Gospel faith and Worship and that it is not sufficient in it self to wise and instruct us therein without mens inventions additions and harsh interpretations is deeply in the Apostasie The reasons there of are 1. Because it being the divine Revelation of the will of God it 's sufficient in it self for our instruction To make us Wise unto Salvation Isa 8. 20. Ps 119. 98 99. 2 Tim. 3. 15 16 17. 2. Because otherwise our faith and obedience must depend on human Authority and not on the divine word and will of God and so must be a human faith and Worship and not divine and how far this is from the Popish faith to believe as the Church believeth and Worship as the Church requireth is easie to be understood by a weak capacity 3. Because without the divine Revelation of the will of God in these matters we must have been as other Gentile Nations that are without it and never heard thereof and therefore in reason we ought to submit thereto in all things according to our knowledge therein having no other rule to submit unto that is divine in things of Gospel concern so that if we turn away from this we turn away from Christianity it self in the truth thereof thereby declaring our selves
scope of Scripture be adhered to especially in the greatest matters of faith and practice otherwise our faith and practice must be built on mens Interpretations and not on Scripture Revelation and further admit we of mens Interpretations of plain and express Scriptures or of the more dark so as to contradict that which is plain as it 's the ready way to make an end of the truth of Scripture so in reason one mans Interpretation is as good to himself as anothers is to himself and so in Infinitum which fill us with divisions meerly from Interpretations of men and not from any obs●urity or contradiction in the Scripture 4. And so as an effect hereof maintain Christian Scripture and Protestant liberty in Religion in opposition to the Popish Scriptureless Principle and protested against by Protestants as exercised by Papists viz. by human power to compel to believe as the Church believeth which perverteth the Scripture denyeth the headship of Christ and the Scripture and Christian liberty of Christians and establisheth the Pope in his Persecutions to the great blame and shame of Protestants 5. That Jesus Christ as he was the alone Sacrifice for the sins of the World so he is the alone foundation of Christian Faith and the alone Mediator between God and Man that he shall come again from Heaven to raise and judg the quick and the dead at his coming and Kingdom and to perfect the Adoption and Redemption the Restitution of all things the great ends of his undertaking 6. That whoever do believe and obey the Gospel shall be saved and that Gospel-Faith and Works are so united by the Lord in order to both Justification and Salvation as without which it cannot be obtained tho not as the cause but as the Holy terms thereof 7. These things being th●s fixed to by Protestants and pleaded out both by word and deed would root up Popery Root and Branch all the rest of their Scriptureless and Fabulous inventions and devices as Transubstantiation Image-worship multiplicity of Mediators Sacrifices of the Mass and Eucharist for quick and dead Pardons Pilgrimages and Purgatory with all the rest of their human inventions would fall to the ground if these forementioned Christian and Scripture Principles were soundly pleaded out and lived to by Protestants Christ I perceive that the Apostasie has been very great and more universal than has been imagined and likewise that the danger thereof is very great Min. I take it to be a matter of highest concern to all to lay these things to heart in time and not to make light thereof it being the great things of the Gospel and of weighty concern it is to come right herein and I doubt not but that oy a due and true enquiry we may come to know better where we are and what to do in the great matters of God and the Gospel wherein his name and honour the honour of Christ the Gospel the good of all Men and our own safety is so much concerned Christ Your self have been sometimes differingly minded about some of these things do you think you are wholly gotten out and free from the Apostasie Min. I do not so think much less so say but repent of my former ignorance and mistake in any of these things taken up by Tradition blessing God for any of his teachings waiting on him for further light and leading in the right understanding of his mind and will in his word and that what I understand I may be Faithful to him therein in which way I may expect his further teachings Hos 6. 3. Joh. 7. 17. My real desire being to attain unto the Faith that was once delivered to the Saints Jude vers 3. Which is the great concern of all that make mention of and call upon the name of the Lord Jesus and in a humble and self-denying way of seeking and waiting they may and shall obtain Ps 25. 4 5 9 14. The sum of all I desire is to come right in the Faith Love and Life of the Gospel which is the great concern of all that do expect to Glorfie God here and to be Glorified with him hereafter CHAP. VIII Sheweth that there shall be not only a special but a general Salvation effected by Christ in the Restitution and World to come in and over which shall be his Eternal Kingdom Christ IN chap. 3. You shewed the general Love of God to the World in the gift of his Son and the general Love of Christ in dying for the World with the varieties of the ends thereof all certainly to be effected in the times appointed I desire you in this to speak something further of the great mystery of the Restitution and Salvation in the World to come and of the Eternal Kingdom of Christ therein Min. What is it in particular you desire to enquire into Christ That you clear from the Scripture the truth concerning the World to come and what it is Min. This I have largely spoken to in my answer to Mr. Coxe ch 7. Yet I shall at present say something briefly further to it for your present satisfaction 1. That there is a World to come is so plainly stated in the Scripture as that I think none dare deny it Mat. 12. 32. Mar. 10. 50. Eph. 1. 21. Heb. 2. 5. 2. What this world to come is or shall be 1. Negatively what it is not 1. It is not heaven above which is Gods throne as some vainly think and teach The reasons are 1. Because that is already and probably has been from Eternity Psa 11. 4. and 93. 2. but this is not but is a world that is yet to come and shall be in the times appointed 2. Because heaven is in Scripture no where called the world to come nor indeed could be so called because it has been and is in being but the World to come is not yet in being otherwise than in purpose and promise nor is heaven above which is called Gods throne at all called world or any part of the created world 3. Christ when he came into the world is not said to come out of or down from the world to come but that he came out from God and down from heaven Joh. 6. 38. 16. 30 17. 8. 4. When he ascended he is not said to ascend up into the World to come but that he ascended into heaven and up where he was before Mar. 16. 19. Joh. 6. 62. 2. It is not this present world as others do as vainly imagin that it is the Gospel day of Grace now in this world that this is not it the reasons are 1. This world was in being long before the world to come was spoken of and promised but that is a world that is not yet in being but is to come 2. Because that where the world to come is spoken of it's clearly in way of distinction from this world viz. this world and that which is to come clearly distinguishing them into two worlds
publish it 2. Those who seem to be most under this complaint and fear have indeed least cause were the danger so great as is surmised their own declared principles of Faith being that which tends really and truly to teach People not to fear the Judgment viz. That God reprobated the World in general both to sin and Judgment by an Eternal and unchangeable Decree before the World was that he made men to be Vessels of wrath that neither the hope of Heaven nor fear of Hell can alter it which truly teaches People to be Atheists and not to fear the Judgment to conclude there is no such thing as sin in the World as many have done if all are the Decreed Acts of God then it must be well pleasing to him and that for which there can be no Judgment Or 2. If both the sins and Judgment were Decreed it must needs be unrighteous and that of which there is no avoiding by fear thereof and the most I have yet heard in Answer to this is that the fear of Judgment may prevent them from gross sins and so their Damnation may be the less and they thereby rendered the better Neighbours among Men but this is a contradiction their Principle of Gods Decreeing of all acts whatsoever comes to pass kills and ends this for if that were true neither hope of Heaven nor fear of Hell could possibly prevent one sin either against God or Men therefore such may learn shame so much to cry out on this when their own Notions tends to end both Sin and Judgment or to render the most Holy and Righteous God to be most unholy and unrighteous in the Judgment 3. Rightly understood were not Men perverse it is in it self so far from tending to occasion any negligence or fearlesness in this matter as that it would rather tend to warn and awaken all sorts of People under the Gospel which is our concern to look about themselves there being no hope nor help for wilful Transgressors so p●rsisting to the end under the Gospel all the most Eternal Judgments and Damnation threatened in the Gospel being against such and if any g●ow careless and wilful their Damnation will become thereby the greater and Eternal The reason is because the greater mercy and means of Light and Life is afforded unto any here it being rejected or neglected the greater will their Damnation be To whomsoever much is given of them shall much be required Luk. 12. 47. Mat. 11. 20 to 24. Christ Do you suppose that this general Grace is only to the Heathen World that ne●e●●●●rd of Christ Nay no sinners under the Gospel parta●e the●eof Min. 1. As before I said no wilful Transgressors may expect any share therein Prov 1. 23 10 31. Yet 2. I do not question but that many under the Gospel may as have need thereof so have share therein or else woe woe woe will be the case of many Gospel-Professors at that day but there may be many Gospel-Professors among all sorts that may have high confidence of their good estate and yet may meet with great Judgment at that day that may in time● partake of deliverance that must to the fire and yet be saved 1 Cor. 3. 15. If any mans work shall be burnt he shall suffer loss but himself shall be saved yet so as by fire here is both the Judgment by fire and the loss which loss without doubt will be Eternal yet the person saved when he hath past the Judgment I know there are several Opinions contrary to and Objection● against this plain truth in this Scripture as 1. Tha● it intends Ministers building of false Doctrine upon the true Foundation and not Members or Gospel Professors 1. I easily grant it yet if Ministers works must be burnt that are not right and yet themselves saved so as by fire then certainly the Members built and led by them shall suffer the same loss and Judgment with them if the bl●nd lead the blind both must fall into the ditch 2. The Ministers first and Principally intended as the cause of these words we have more than probable ground to conclude were those bad ones of or belonging to the Church of Corinth of whom the Apostle so much complains 2 Cor. 11. 13. Calling them false Apostles deceitful Workers the Devils Ministers vers 15. Yet it 's apparent vers 4. that they kept to and built upon the same Foundation the Apostle had laid they Preached not another Jesus nor another Spirit nor another Gospel but the same as Paul did tho to bad ends yet these and such as these shall be saved by fire 2. Obj. That it intends not the day of the Lords coming to Judgment but some other day of Gospel-Grace in this World to brun up the Wood Hay and Stubble by the fire of the Word and Spirit bofore the d●y of Judgment comes because it 's said the day shall declare it not the day of the Lord as the coming of Christ and the Judgment is usually called the day of the Lord Joel 2 31. 1 Thes 5. 2. 2 Pet. 3. 10. To this I say 1. That the coming of Christ is called the day as well as the day of the Lord Mal. 4. 1. To which probably the Apostle may have respect Behold the day cometh that shall burn as an Oven And Rom. 13. 12. It 's called the day The day is at hand and Eph. 4. 30. the day of Redemption Heb. 10. 25. Exhorting one another and so much the more as you see the day approaching so that it 's called the day as frequently as the day of the Lord and indeed it is all one And it is likewise called that day 1 Thes 5. 4. 2 Thes 2. 3. 2 Tim. 1. 18. 4. 8. 3. Others say That if it do intend the day of the Lord yet it intends the burning up of things but not of Persons To this I say 1. It 's true it intends the burning up of things viz. Of all things built on the Foundation contrary to the Doctrine of the Gospel both in matters of Faith and practice but the Persons must to the fire as well as their works they shall be saved yet so as by fire 2. Else all bad Ministers and Christians that have built bad matter and made bad work must be saved suffering only the loss of their building without any personal or penal suffering for the Apostle saith that those who come under this consideration shall be saved so as by fire and if so this Notion opens the Door wider than the Scripture or themselves will grant and therefore necessarily we must understand it in the sense by me asserted which is likewise plain without any harsh interpretation or wresting and wi●h this Rev. 2. 11. seems fully to agree he that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second Death which imports not only a security to overcomers but that some may be hurt of the second Death that may not be Eternally swallowed
1. It derogates from the perfection of God from which they pretend thereby to escape denying him to be capable to be what he hath said he is and his Throne and dwelling Place to be where he hath said it is and to do what he hath said he doth and will do which is his perfection in a God-like way to do 2. It 's that which tends to end the Scripture revelation as the truth of God tending to make us wholly at a loss concerning his mind and will relating to us rendering him to have two Wills contrary to each other and that he intends not what he speaks and so leaves us wholly at a loss about the Divine revelation ●●ich is exceeding dishonorable unto God and perni●●rs unto men Christ Christ saith in the institution of the Sup●● Mat. 26. 26 28. Of the Bread this is my Body ●●● of the Wine this is my Blood c. And if we take ●●ccording to the Letter we know it is not so And it ●●●ise justifies the Popish Transubstantion Min. Much might be said to this but I shall in this ●●ce only say this unto it viz. That both Christ and ●● Apostle Paul fully explains these Words to be a fi●●ative Speech 1. that Christ explains it Luk. 22. ●● This do in remembrance of me to let them and us ●●w that he did not intend that it was he himself but ●● Ordinance instituted and left to the Church in re●●mbrance of him viz. Of what he had suffered for ●●m so the Apostle likewise from the mouth of ●hrist explains it 1 Cor. 11. 24 25 26. This do in ●●membrance of me and this do in remembrance of me ●●● as often as ye Eat this Bread and Drink this Cup ●● do shew the Lords Death till he come it was Bread all even when they eat it and the Cup viz. the ●ine was Wine still and it was to shew the Lords ●●ath and not the Lords Death so that it 's fully ex●●ained in the Divine Record to be a remembrance a ●●ure a shew and not the thing it self so that Tran●●bstantiation is not only irrational but unscriptural and so irreligious Christ I shall at present enquire no further but de●re you to draw up the sum of the whole as briefly as you ●●n and so to conclude the present discourse Min. I shall but before I so do and in order thereunto I shall briefly promise five things 1. That the Scriptures are the divine and revealed Word and Will of God and as so are our rule in all matters both of Gospel-Faith and Practice Isa 8. 20. 2 Tim. 3. 15. 1 Joh. 4. 6. and that whoever denieth this denieth the ground of all Christian Faith and Religion as likewise those who affirm that the promises and precepts are not God's intentions or purpose 2. That all matters of Faith especially of things fundamental viz. things to be believed and de●● without which we cannot be saved are plainly set down in the Scripture and are to be understood according to the express Letter of the Scripture or the plain Scope and Reason thereof and not to build our Faith on mens interpretations and additions otherwise our Faith must be built on mens interpretations and additions and not on the Word of the Lord which must needs be an uncertain and unsafe building and if we so build our Faith how far we shall be from Rome in this matter is easie to be understood by the weakest capacity 3. That had we not had this Divine Revelation of Gospel grace by Christ we should have been as ignorant thereof as the Nations that are without it 4. And therefore it much concerns us to believe it on its own authority and to prize it and cleave to it without adding or diminishing by interpretation● or additions of failable men especially in things fundamental 5. I add That what I have said in this Discourse or shall further say is not so much by way of interpretation otherwise than by comparing and uniting the Scripture in its own light language and reason so as that I doubt not but the meanest capacity being wil●●g may easily understand and the belief thereof impose on none further than it 's apprehended truth ●●d worth takes place in the understandings and con●●ences of men Having premised these things I shall result the whole ● briefly as possible I can in which if I am not very ●●ch mistaken is comprehended most of the Funda●entals of Gospel Doctrin and Christian Faith and ●●ligion in order to salvation united in the plain ●●ds sense and truth of Scripture as a golden ●●in of which not one link may be broken without ●●ger to the whole 1. That God is Heb. 11. 6. and that there is but one ●●d the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 8. 6. ●●d that this one God is an infinite incomprehensible ●●rious and eternal Being most holy wise just good ●●d gracious almighty omnipresent merciful and true ●●d faithful in his sayings Deut. 33. 7. Isa 40. 28. 1 Sam. 1 Psal 139. 7. 2. That this almighty wise and good God made all ●●●ngs by Jesus Christ Joh. 1. 1 2 3. with Ephes 3. 9. ●● 1. 16. Heb. 1. 2. and that he made all things good his own content Gen. 1. 31. and made man best of ●●l viz. in his own Image or likeness Gen. 1. 26 ● 28. and so did not nor could not make any de●rdly to sin and be damned it being contrary to the ●●dness of his nature and name and the truth of his ●ord and so impossible for so wise holy just and good God to make any of his Creatures designedly to so ●● an end 3. That man by transgressing the Law of his Maker● seil from that good estate in which he was made into an estate of sin and death Gen. 2. 16 17. and 3. 6 and that death threatned and inflicted was only the first death Gen. 3. 16 17 18 19. 1 Cor. 1● 21 2● and that this death came into and passeth upon all men Rom. 5. 12 18. 4. That God of his own free goodness and mercy immediately aft●r the sin and fall set him upon promise of recovery and restitution out of this fal● state by the ●●●d of the Woman that should brou●● the head design of the Serpent Gen. 3. 15. and afterward frequently renewed the promise of this Grac● to Mankind Gen. 22. 18. and 26. 4. and 28. 14. Psa● 72. 11 17. Joh. 1. 45. with Act. 3. 21. 5. That according to the promise of this grace who the fulness of time was comes God sent forth this promised Seed and Son made of a Woman Gal. 4. 4. th● Seed of Abraham the Son of David and the Son God truly God and Man Matth. 1. 1. Luk. 1. 32 3. Rom. 9. 5. as a real demonstration of love to the World according to the foregoing promises thereof Luk. 2. 1 Joh. 2. 16. 6. That this Son and Saviour being come into ● World for this