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A27015 The safe religion, or, Three disputations for the reformed catholike religion against popery proving that popery is against the Holy Scriptures, the unity of the catholike church, the consent of the antient doctors, the plainest reason, and common judgment of sense it self / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1657 (1657) Wing B1381; ESTC R16189 289,769 704

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better_a translate_v it_o ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o syria_n quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o jam_fw-la domino_fw-la pastore_fw-la utitur_fw-la edit_fw-la vedel_n pag._n 250._o and_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a translation_n be_v ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o pastore_fw-la dei_fw-la utitur_fw-la and_o the_o next_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n &_o solus_fw-la ●am_fw-la visitahit_fw-la &_o sit_fw-la vestra_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la dilectio_fw-la as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a version_n or_o solus_fw-la ipsam_fw-la curabit_fw-la visitabitque_fw-la as_o vairlenius_n and_o vedelius_fw-la or_o rather_o as_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a version_n solus_fw-la ipse_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la vice_n episcopi_fw-la sit_fw-la from_o whence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o bishop_n universal_a of_o that_o syrian_a church_n or_o else_o ignatius_n 1_o will_v have_v sure_o commend_v it_o to_o his_o care_n 2._o or_o at_o least_o 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be_v most_o safe_a as_o saint_n paul_n 1._o cor._n 2.4_o and_o cateche_n 18._o pag._n 220_o 221_o 222._o see_v how_o he_o describe_v the_o catholic_a church_n without_o the_o least_o intimation_n of_o the_o roman_a description_n august_n cont._n literas_fw-la petiliani_fw-la li._n 3._o cap._n 6._o pag._n edit_n paris_n 127._o col_fw-fr 1._o proinde_fw-la sive_fw-la de_fw-la christo_fw-la sive_fw-la de_fw-la ejus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sive_fw-la de_fw-la quacunque_fw-la alia_fw-la re_fw-la quae_fw-la pertinet_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la utramque_fw-la nostram_fw-la hatred_n non_fw-la dicam_fw-la nos_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la comparandi_fw-la ei_fw-la qui_fw-la dixit_fw-la licet_fw-la si_fw-la nos_fw-la sed_fw-la omnino_fw-la quod_fw-la secutus_fw-la adjecit_fw-la si_fw-mi angelus_n de_fw-la caelum_fw-la vobis_fw-la annunciaverit_fw-la preterquam_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o scripture_n legalibus_fw-la &_o evangelicis_fw-la accepistis_fw-la anathema_n sit_v church_n hac_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la &_o 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per_fw-la quas_fw-la solas_fw-la potes_fw-la plenam_fw-la dei_fw-la intelligere_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o the_o divine_a scripture_n alone_o thou_o may_v understand_v the_o full_a will_n of_o god_n i_o know_v the_o louvain_n doctor_n put_v this_o epistle_n in_o the_o appendix_n and_o conjecture_v it_o to_o be_v of_o pelagius_n but_o 1._o it_o show_v the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o age_n 2._o never_o do_v austin_n contradict_v it_o but_o oft_o say_v the_o like_a august_n de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la merit_n &_o remiss_a li._n 2._o cap._n 36._o pag._n mihi_fw-la 304._o say_v talis_fw-la populus_fw-la ut_fw-la praedixi_fw-la eruditus_fw-la in_o regno_fw-la caelorum_fw-la per_fw-la duo_fw-la testamenta_fw-la vetus_fw-la &_o novum_fw-la non_fw-la declinans_fw-la in_o dextram_fw-la superba_fw-la presumtione_fw-la justitiae_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o sinistram_fw-la secuva_fw-fr delectatione_n peccati_fw-la in_fw-la terram_fw-la illius_fw-la promissionis_fw-la intrabit_fw-la &_o 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