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A12800 Cassander Anglicanus shewing the necessity of conformitie to the prescribed ceremonies of our church, in case of depriuation. By Iohn Sprint, minister of Thornbury in Glocester-shire, sometimes of Christ-Church in Oxon. Sprint, John, d. 1623. 1618 (1618) STC 23108; ESTC S117795 199,939 306

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deuided and the course of the Gospel hindred and interrupted to aske and seeke the iudgement of other true Churches and Teachers about the case in question As the Apostles did in Act. 15. 2 3 4 6. and the Primitiue ages following after their example also did imitate as their duty was Ph. 3. 17. and 4. 8 9. in which case if the iudgment of one two or twenty Churches be to be harkned to and not despised or contradicted rashly how much lesse the iudgement of all true Churches of all times and places Now for a few persons of one Prouince as of England and of one season to sway against all Churches to condemne their doctrine and practise of sinne and error is against this ordinance of God and the way to error Because the swaying against the iudgement and practise VIII of all Churches and Teachers is against the equity of many forcible and maine reasons For 1 Who are more likely to know the trueth euen in such a point as this then the whole company of such First who are indued with the most excellent gifts in the Church and greatest degrees of knowledge and vnderstanding of Gods word and with meanes tending thereunto doe not the best sights best iudge of colours Secondly who are and haue been endued with greatest degrees of euident sanctity Thirdly whose labours haue beene most of all blessed of God for the conuersion of soules for the ouerthrow of sinne and Antichrist and Heresies Fourthly who haue liued and died most comfortably in the Lord If a man should not rest in the iudgements of the whole company of such where should he rest or what peace or assurance shall hee haue to haue all these so many as all and so incomparable persons his aduersaries as in condemning such for sinners and false Teachers 2 No one point of error can be shewed which is established by this rule namely by the consent of iudgement and practise of all Churches primitiue and reformed latter For albeit some faithfull persons and some true Churches may differ from some other in sundry points and thereby there must needes bee error in one part or other yet it were hard for a few priuate persons to conuince them all of errour in a matter wherein they all agree if they were in errour is it not strange no age should bee able to discerne it 3 Such as haue wilfully and professedly differed from this rule haue beene found to haue beene New-fangles Heretickes Schismatickes and prophane persons such as Donatists Anabaptists Brownists Arians Famelists and the like and are of infinite varieties one from another and therefore all or the very most must needes bee an errour for there is but one trueth 4 By the reiecting of this rule euery Sect maketh a way open to their owne contempt For if the iudgement of so reuerend and so excellent lights and agreement of them all is to bee despised and reiected by any particular why should not others reiect and contemne them and their iudgement the matter being difficult and of disputable nature and themselues being so many thousand degrees behind the person whom they thus despise in their worth or number 5 It opens a doore to singularitie noueltie and of endlesse differences errors and contentions and leaues no rule of Peace or of ending dissentions in the Church of God For if one may vnder colour of trueth teach and practise what he list in his diuersitie why may not another do the like or what rule will there be to compose the dissention that doe and will arise in the Church which one part hauing the trueth may vrge vnto the other voyd of truth why should hee rather follow this part then that wherefore in this case wee are to note that no priuate person or persons may raise vp any new opinion and pretend Scripture for it and so propose it for a Doctrine and a truth in the Church though hee condemne the whole Church beside for an error and a sinne Because as the Scriptures are not of priuate interpretation so Gods Spirit is not priuate but generall to all the faithfull Thus wee see this doctrine of swaying against all true Churches and Teachers of all ages and places and condemning them of sinne and error is false doctrine Whereupon also it followeth secondly that it is a sinne which also appeareth further I Because Dauid doth iudge himselfe that he trespassed in that he being a priuate man condemned and censured all the generation of Gods children Psal 73. 13. 14. 15. Againe because God laieth a woe vpon the practise of taking away the righteousnesse of the righteous from him Esa 5. 23. or of condemning the iust Pr. 17. 15. But that doctrine practise which laieth a sin vnto the charge of all Gods Church takes away their righteousnes and condemnes them in that point Therefore it is a sinne euen of bearing false witnesse against the whole congregation of neighbours 2 Because the censuring of all true Churches for a sin or of false Doctrine is contrary to the Commandements of God who would haue the Teachers obeyed and hearkened vnto which doe teach and define secundum legem as aboue I noted Heb. 13. 17. Deut. 17. 9 10 11 12. and would haue the rest to iudge of the words of a few which prophesie 1. Cor. 14. 29. 32. and of the commandement of walking in the wayes of good men Pro. 2. 20. Phil. 3. 17. and 4. 9. It is also contrary to the practise of the holy Apostles who determined one Churches differences by another Act. 15. 2. as before I noted 3 Because this Doctrine is the ground and mother of schisme For S. Paul noteth that they cause diuision and offences that teach and practise contrary to the doctrine which the whole Church hath receiued especially from the Apostles Rom. 16. 17. Therefore this doctrine is a sinne Obiect Against this point it is alleadged first that it is a Popish ground to make the Church the ground of our Faith It contradicteth the Doctrine of our Churches against the Papists Answ This point includeth no Popish ground nor doeth it contradict the Doctrine of our Churches against the Papists For the Churches desire nothing so much against the Papists then that they would grant the elect and faithfull to bee the onely Church and then that they would stand to the iudgement determination and practise of such as are faithfull in all ages But that this may the better appeare to bee no Popish ground Wee are to note 1 The Papists vnderstand the Church to consist onely of persons in office and those often hereticall sacrilegious and prophane persons such as their Popes Cardinalls carnall Bishops Wee the only faithfull in all times and places whether in office or not 2 They vrge Apocriphall and basterd Fathers for the patronage of their errors Wee the vndoubted writings of the approued Fathers 3 They vrge the Fathers errors and things wherein they differ we their truth
those excommunications neither obeyed they such admonitions but persisted in their course and so protested openly that they would do Euseb 5. 23. 25. The Church of God in those times being placed among much chaffe and many tares did tollerat many things which for the time she could not well amend tamen quae sunt contra fidem saith Augustine vel bonam vitam non approbat nec tacet nec facit yet neither did she appoue conceale nor practise any thing which is contrary to the faith or good life Epist 119. cap. 20. They held their Ceremonies not necessary but alterable for Constantine sent Osius Bishop of Corduba to make an vniformitie of obseruing Easter Sozom. 1. 15. but Osius returned and could doe nothing therein cap. 16. thereupon the Necene Councill was by Constantine gathered wherein the matter of the Easterne controuersie was ended and all conformed in one order ibid. namely to the order obserued in the Westerne part Theodoret. Hist. Ecclesi 1. 9. fol. 585. They grieued and lamented to behold many perturbations of weake Christians to haue beene wrought partly by the contentious obstinacy partly by the superstitious timerousnesse quorundam fratrum of certaine brethren which raised such contentious questions about Ceremonies and matters of this nature which were neither grounded on authoritie of holy Scripture nor on the generall obseruation of the Church nor were profitable for correction of life and maners in as much as they thought nothing to be right but that themselues did August Epist 118. cap. 3. They grieued exceedingly to see many holesome precepts of diuine Scripture to bee lesse regarded and such aboundance of presumptuous euery where that they would more sharpely reproue a man for the violating of a trifling Ceremonie then they would reproue a man for drunkennesse August Epist 119. cap. 19. There were many such inconueniences which they durst not reproue more freely then they did that they might auoid the offence and scandall partly of certaine holy persons and partly also of some other turbulent persons ibid. They practised the Ceremonies of euery Church wheresoeuer they came as they saw them there practised and vsed so they were not opposite to faith and good maners so did Ambrose and so did Augustine and his mother Monica at the perswasion of Saint Ambrose August epist 86. 119. cap. 3. They perswaded euery Church to follow her owne custome Sozom. They perswaded euery Minister compassionately to correct as much as in him did lye whatsoeuer was amisse and that hee could not amend to beare it patiently and with a tender and louing affection to grieue and mourne at it August contra Parmen lib. 3. cap. 2. They perswaded the members of the Church euery one of them to obserue as much as in them lie the ceremonies customes of the Church wherin they did come or remaine if they be not contra fidē aut contra bonos more 's vt decet ecclesiae prudentē ac pacificū as becommeth a prudent and peaceable some of the Church August Epist 118. cap. 5. 7. thus did Ambrose teach and perswade Augustine telling him that he would teach him none other then he practised himselfe Et si melius nosset id potius obseruaret herein also did Augustine and his mother rest this aduise they reuerenced as an Oracle and practised the same and thus the same Saint Augustine perswaded others as namely Casulan and Ianuar. to whom he wrote Epist 86. 118. c. 3. Lastly they taught vnto men the doctrine and perswaded them vnto the practise of their Christian libertie from all humane ordinances when by them it was endangered or questioned as also in a case of necessitie or of superior reason so Spiridion the B B. of Cyprus when his guest hauing nothing else to eate denied to eate Porke flesh in the time of Lent because hee was a Christian yea rather eate quoth hee because thou art a Christian for that all things are cleane to the cleane Sozom. lib. 1. cap. 11. Hist tripartit 1. 10. of the like nature is that of Augustine before alleadged Epist 119. cap. 20. And so much of the iudgement and practise of the Primitiue Churches and fathers out of the which I know it is not possible that any man should conclude the doctrine of the necessitie of suffering depriuation for refusing inconuenient Ceremonies for my part I suppose it clearely crushed and quelled in the vniforme iudgement and practise of the Primitiue times Neither truely doe I know or haue euer read or heard any thing much differing from this which is here set downe not that I make their iudgement or practise the infallible rule of trueth to ouerrule and guid my conscience or the consciences of others by but it proueth the point in question clearely that namely the doctrine and practise of depriuation is opposite to all the best iudgements the most spirituall and Godly minded yea the most eminent lights and must sanctified vessels of Gods grace after the times of the Apostles in the Primatiue Churches Neither doe I thinke that there were any better or many other then these to bee found vnlesse a man should picke out the opinions of conuinced and condemned Heretikes and Schismatikes And for my part since I perceiued this their vniforme consent I durst not bee peremptory or refractorie in dissenting therefrom especially perceiuing withall the consenting harmony of all our later writers and reformed Churches to agree and iumpe with them both in doctrine and in practise of these things and in matters of this nature which now in the next place by the helpe of God I will labour to make manifest Secondly therefore I will prooue the second part of the assumption namely that the doctrine and practise of leauing ones ministerie by suffering depriuation for not conforming to the Ceremonies prescribed is opposite vnto the doctrine and practise of all true reformed Churches and teachers or all classicall writers That this point also may bee made euident wee must consider as wee did before two points first of the estate of reformed Churches in respect of Ceremonies Next the iudgement doctrine and practise of the most excellent teachers and classicall writers of our time The former of these points will teach vs that the estate Point 1. of reformed Churches in respect of inconuenient Ceremonies exceedeth ours supposing ours to bee inconuenient as is pretended in three points euen in number nature and effect For the Ceremonies of other reformed Churches are for number more and for their nature and effect much worse whereof the intelligent Reader may easily vnderstand in considering some of their particular Ceremonies which I here set downe Touching Baptisme THey doe vse the signe of the Crosse in the Danish and Lutheran Churches Heming syntag 4. lege Decalog § 3. fol. 365. They doe vse exorcisme in Baptisme planè Papistico more ibid. Putaeus lib. 2. exercit 24. fol. 170. Lutherani exorcismum cum signatione crucis defendunt vt Muller
Leiser They permit allow and defend the Baptisme of Women Colloqu Mompelgart fol. 499. Conrad Schlusselb lib. 1. cap. 18 fol. 60. They vse the old hallowed Fonts to baptize in Berne and Lansanna Beza in vita Caluini anno 1538. and euerie where They haue such as vndertake for childrens education in Baptisme commonly called Godfathers Caluin Ep. 302. fol. 491. So in the Lowe Countries as appeareth in Actis inferioris Germaniae M. Can. 41. anno 1581. apud Sculting Anachr Hierarch lib. 9. Touching the Lords Supper THey vse kneeling at the Communion in all the Lutheran Churches Harmon confess Bohem. § 14. fol. 120 and that is the more dangerous because of their doctrine of consubstantiation They vse the Wafer cake as the Papists doe in the Church of Geneua Bez. in vita Caluin They giue it in priuate and vnto the sicke Schluselb lib. 1. cap. 30. fol. 161 162. Harm confess § 16. Witenberg fol. 197. Yea they gaue it vnto onely two ibid. § 14. fol. 146. They retaine the name of Missa the Masse Harm confess § 14. fol. 107. Augustan They keepe none backe from the Communion be they neuer so scandalous of life in the Churches of Heluetia in libello de ritibus Eccles Tigur fol. 16. The ministers doe put in the Bread and Wine into the mouthes of the Communicants ibid. fol. 15. Touching the holy Scripture THey make the Epistle to the Hebrewes and that of Solom Gesner compend de Script fol. 11. Iames and the second and third of Iohn and Iude with the Apocalyps to be either Apocryphals or at least of more doubtful authority then other parts of Scripture in the Lutheran Churches Chemnit Enchir. fol. 63. propositiones Marpurg tom 1. Hunnij fol. 3. tom 2. Winkelman fol. 5. Laelius de verbo Dei proposit 22. fol. 113. propos 22. 130. They reade the Scriptures after the forme of Epistles and Gospels in the Churches of the Lutherans Heluetians Nassouians Countie Palatines as appeareth by the Epistle of Luther Melancthon Heming Gualt Oleuian Textor So Harm confess § 1. fol. 9. Bohem. lib. de ritibus Eccles Tigur fol. 4. They reade publikely the Apocryphal Books of Scripture in the Church Touching prayer and Leturgie THey retaine the forme of their Leturgie like vnto the Masse booke Harm confess § 14. fol. 127. Augustan fol. 131. ibid. Looke the Booke de ritibus Eccl. Tigur fol. 12 13 15 16. they haue the Angelicall Hymne Gospels gloria Patri gloria tibi Domine after the Gospel c. They haue sundry prayers and Hymnes in the Latine tongue Harm confess § 14. fol. 127. Aug. They haue the vse of Waxe candles in the Lutheran and Danish Churches Heming syntag 4. lex Decal § 33. fol. 365. Simlerus de vita Bulling fol. 34. They vse the Surplesse Heming ibid. Simler ibid. They vse no singing of Psalmes in some Churches of Heluetia in lib de ritibus Eccle. Tigur fol. 9. b. They suffer and doe vse priuate prayers at burials ibid. fol. 27. a. b. Touching Churches THeir old Churches idolatrously abused standing East and West with the Chancell and in forme of a Crosse retained euery where They retaine Images in their Churches and maintaine a lawfull vse of them Colloq Mompelg fol. 390 403 404. Schlusheb Theolog. Calu. li. 1. cap. 10. fol. 35. 36. Eckhard Fasc quaest cap. 8. quaest 3. Heming syntag 4. lex Decal § 33. fol. 365. Siml b. sup They retaine Altars in stead of the Communion Table so placed in the Church as are the idolatrous altars of the Papists Colloqu Mompelgart fol. 424. 425. In the Lutheran Churches and also in the Church of Berne Ibid. Heming syntag 4. lex decal § 33. fol. 365. They retaine the vse of Organs in the Church and other musicall instruments Colloq Mompelg fol. 391. 409. Touching discipline THey haue Diocesan Bishops and Archbishops in Simler in vit Bulling fol. 35 36. Heming enchirid class 3. cap. 10. ord Eccle. fol. 348. Idem Syntag. tit gubernat Eccl. §. 15 16 17. fol. 228. Denmarke and superintendants and euen Abbots in Germany among the Lutherans Melancht consil part 1. fol. 95 96 225 276 610. Harm confes § 17. fol. Augustan Some Bishops of France conuerted from Popery retained their place and office still by common consent of the French Church Caluin Epist 373. fol. 646 647 648. So Martyr Loc. com ad finem inter Ep. fol. 1143. Bezae They haue no vse at all of excommunication in the Churches of Countie Palatine Heluetia of Witenberg Mompelgart Erast de excommunica fol. 356 382. Vrsin catech part 2. qu. 83 84. fol. 620. Caluin Epist 166 170 366. neither ruling Elders T. C. his admonit fol. 83 84. They haue holy dayes of Christ his Natiuitie Passion Resurrection Pentecost c. in the Heluetian Churches lib. de ritib. Eccl. Tigur fol. 4. In the Churches of the Low-countries Brownist 2. Letters to Iunius in the Churches of Denmarke Heming Syntagm 4 lex Decal 22. 24. 25. fol. 363. 364. Also in the Church of Berne Aretius Problem loc 99. fal 289. They haue holidaies consecrated to the memoriall of the Virgin Mary the twelue Apostles S. Paul S. Iohn Baptist S. Stephen Innocents Saint Michael Al Saints as appeareth in the Epistles which are before alleadged also Heming vbi sup Harm confess § 19. fol. 176. Bohem. Their Ministers are called by them Sacerdotes Priests as are the Popish Mass-priests Harm confess Bohem. § 11. fol. 47. fol. 4. 62. Aug. Item § 13. fol. 93. Bohem. Heming syntag 4. lex Decal § 11. fol. 43. albeit otherwise the Tigurines disclaime this name being taken in the worser sence Harm confess § 11. fol. 38. They haue Deacons not Collectors for the poore but a degree to the Ministry and an assistant to him yea supplying the place of a Minister in his absence Harm confess 11. fol. 47. lib. 2. de ritibus Eccle. Tigur fol. 7. 16. Their Ministers in the Heluetian Churches doe play the Deacons and gather contributions for the poore lib. de ritibus Eccles Tigur fol. 22. They practise and maintaine auricular confession and priuate absolution Harm confess § 8 fol. 142. 143. Bohem § ibid fol. 147. 150. August ‖ ibid fol. 154. Saxon. ‖ ibid. fol 160. Wittenberg schlusselb Theol. Caluinist lib. 1. cap. 19. fol. 6. 9. Simlerus in vita Bullingeri fol. 34. calleth it priuatam quandam confessionem parum a Papistica differentem yet looke Zepper de Sacram cap. 35. fol. 787. 798. They allow and practise a kind of preaching and absolution of repentant sinners by women in the absence of the minister among the Lutherans Colloqu Mompelg fol. 499. And thus wee see in part the estate of reformed Churches in respect of ceremonies Not that hereby I doe goe about to iustifie these Ceremonies which they doe practise but thinking and professing many of them rather most fit to be abolished in many respects and the Churches of Christ to be reduced so
obiected by the ministers in the abridgement that iustly and materially against our ceremonies Yet doth not the maine forces of this third argument lye in that but in this rather that though they be but humane Ceremonies yet they that inioyne them doe esteeme and impose them as partes of the worshippe of God which puts a manifest difference betweene them and the Ceremonies that were vsed by the Apostles or any Church by their appointment 4 In the imposing and vsing of ours those rules that are prescribed in the Word for matters of direction in the Church concerning Ceremonies are not kept For they are no way needfull or profitable for the edification of the Church but are knowne to cause offence euery where and hinderance vnto edification and are obserued only for the will and pleasure of them that doe inioyne them Theirs though they were vsed and appointed by them who had more farre absolute authority and might lawfully haue commanded in the Church of God specially doing that they did by the inspiration of the holy Ghost yet were they also squared directed by the rules of the holy Scripture and were no way offensiue but tended greatly to the edification of Gods people And how often hath Master Spr. affirmed in the prosecuting of this argument that they were profitable and necessary and alleadged for proofe thereof Acts 15. 28. 29. though heere as forgetting himselfe hee doe deny it Yea this very Section heere wherein hee takes vpon him to prooue they were not needfull or profitable they serued rather to destroy then to edifie the Church he concludes with this clause Yet their vse and yeelding serued to edifie by making way to the Churches peace and furtherrnce of the Gospel And this vaine of contradicting himselfe he taketh such pleasure in as he continueth it to the end of his discourse wherein he laboreth to proue that the fourth argument against the Ceremonies in the abridgement maketh as strongly against the Apostles as against our Church They were not profitable for order saith he in the beginning of that Section and in the conclusion of it affirmes yet it was order to vse and practise them in that case And in the beginning of the next Section hauing said they were not profitable for decency for what was more vndecent then for a Christian to vse idle vnfruitfull needlesse and beggarly rudiments by and by he addes yet did this indecency vphold an higher decency Which last phrase of speech besides the contradiction is very hard to be vnderstood for how can indecency support decency or in what sense can the establishment of the faith and the dayly increase of the number of the Churches bee termed a higher decency or how could the indecency of these Ceremonies establish the faith and increase the Churches After this in going about to shew that they were offensiue many wayes in the fift Section hee saith that in the euent they did serue indeede as meanes to infringe the Christian liberty and immediately after yet the vse and practise of these things by the direction of the Apostles did procure the liberty of the Gospell So that if M. Spr. himselfe be to be beelieu'd euery indifferent and vnderstanding man will easily discerne that the 4. Argument which the Ministers haue vsed against our ceremonies in the abridgement doth not any way concerne those which the Apostles did vse And surely it would be altogether needlesse to insist longer vpō this part of this his Discourse but that there is one thing affirmed by him which may not be passed ouer For noting this to be the 4. way whereby those ceremonies were offensiue that the Apostles themselues were offended in imposing that they did hee addeth that they taught against the things which they inioyned that namely they ought not to be vsed by the Iewes or Gentiles It is strange any learned or Godly man should so farre forget himselfe as to charge the holy Apostles to haue inoyned the faithfull to vse those things which themselues did teach ought not to be vsed either by Iewes or Gentiles specially when the text expresly saith that what they inioyned they inioyned by the direction of the Holy Ghost The place he citeth to proue this that he saith viz. Act. 21. 21. doth not affirme that Paul had taught so indeed but that the Iewes had been so informed of him and by Iames his words vers 24. it appeares also that information was false And if this which he speaketh of the Apostles preaching this against that which they did so decree were to be belieued which God forbid what had hee gained by it surely that there could be no force in this example or decree to bind vs in conscience to vse those things which they in their doctrine did teach ought not to be vsed by any Christian And so this his first Argument wherein he hath laboured so much and with so great confidence is by himselfe vtterly ouerthrowen The third maine point in cōfirmation of the assumption of his first Argument is this That the Apostles by diuine inspiration and commandement from God required the Churches to vse so many Ceremonies and such as were as inconuenient and euill as ours are supposed to bee That whatsoeuer the Apostles did inioyne the Churches they did it by diuine inspiration commandement from God is so vndoubted a truth as he needed not at all to haue troubled himselfe in the confirmation of it it being so hard to find any scholler that would so much gainsay or call this in question as hee himselfe hath sometimes done in this Treatise All the question in this point is Whether euer the Apostles did inioyne vnto whole Churches so many Ceremonies as ours are and those also as inconuenient and euill as ours are This he goeth about to prooue after this manner They caused others to practise ceremonies for Paul circumcised Timothie Act. 16. 3. and tooke the men and was purified with them Act. 21. 26. They aduised one another to practise ceremonies for Iames and the Elders perswaded Paul thus to conforme Acts. 21. 23. 24. They inioyned or commanded the practise of Ceremonies for thus did the Councill at Ierusalem Act. 15. 28. 29. This constitution is called the decrees that were ordained by the Apostles and Elders Act. 16. 4. and the determination of the Apostles Act. 21. 25. and this commaundement they gaue to whole Churches of diuers and farre distant countreys and Nations namely to the Gentiles in Antiochia Siria and Cilicia Act. 15. 23. and afterwards he addes that the Ceremonies that they did thus cause others to practise aduise one another to practise inioyne whole Churches to practise were as inconuenient and euill as ours both for number nature and euill effects For answere vnto all this First it were sufficient to say That he hath not performed that which he hath vndertaken because hee prooues not that the Apostles inioyned so many Ceremonies as wee haue in our Church or that
vniuersall doctrine of all sound Teachers of all times and places as appeareth else where in the following arguments yea it condemneth the very inspired Apostles of Iesus Christ and the Churches of their planting which for performance of greater duties did conforme themselues perswade others to conforme and commanded the same to others as a duty good and necessary All which inconueniences by conformity euen vnto inconuenient Ceremonies in the case of depriuation would bee wholy auoyded which by not conforming are needlessely maintained strengthened and vpholden It followeth therefore that the doctrine and practise of suffering depriuation for refusing Ceremonies though in some respect inconuenient is opposite vnto the law of loue and so by consequence and error and a sinne * Touching the doctrine of this point and application thereof vnto the practise of like Ceremonies to ours in a like case looke Gual in act 16. 3. hom 106. fol. 199. P●sc in act 15. 28. Idem in act 21. 20. Idem in act 16. 3 Calu. in act 15. 28. fol. 265. Idem in act ●8 18. Aret. in act 15. 28. fol. 72. Idem in act 16. 3. fol. 75. Beza annot in act 15. 29. in act 16. 4. 21. 20. 18. 18. Reason 2 Thus much of the first maine reason prouing that the doctrine and practise of suffering depriuation for refusing to conforme to the prescribed Ceremonies is contrary to Gods word and therefore an error and a sinne Argu. 4 Now the second maine reason standeth in this because the doctrine and practise of suffering depriuation for refusing to conforme to the Ceremonies prescribed in the present Church of England or the like tendeth directly to condemne all true Churches of Christ Primitiue and latter and all sound teachers and sincere Christians of all times and places since the time of the Apostles which appeareth to bee an errour in doctrine and a sinne in practise For the further manifestation of this reason there must be proued these two points That to condemne all true Churches and sound Teachers of all times and places primitiue and latter for teaching error in any doctrine or maintaining or committing maintained sinne in practise is a sinne and error That this Doctrine and practise of suffring depriuation for refusing to conforme to the prescribed Ceremonies in our present Church of England or to the like doth condemne all true Churches and sincere Teachers of all times and places since the times of the Apostles Which points being prooued the conclusion will ineuitably follow that to suffer depriuation for refusing to conforme is a sinne and an error to be taught and practised Touching the former point That namely to condemne 1. Point all true Churches and sound teachers for teaching and maintaining false doctrine and sinne is both an error and a sinne First I say it is an error Because in condemning their doctrine for false doctrine euen in this point they condemned the inspired doctrine of the holy Apostles for false doctrine as before appeareth which must needes bee an error and a sinne of no light degree Because it condemneth their doctrine practise which are followers of the Apostles in their inspired doctrine and practise and which walke so as they haue them for an example which rule of doctrine and practise being commended as true and commanded as iust Phil. 3. 17. and 4. 9. the contrary thereto must needes be an error Because the true Catholike Church indefinitely taken for the company of the faithfull in all ages being as they are euer built on the foundations of the Prophets and Apostles and Christ the corner stone Eph. 2. 20. is the pillar and ground of trueth 1. Tim. 3. 15. but whatsoeuer is against the ground of trueth must needes be an error Because the true Church of all ages being defined truely ly to bee the congregation of the faithfull consisteth of a company of spirituall persons not of carnall blinde or prophaine persons or hereticall Idolatours and tiranious Popes or Prelates as the Papistes Now the spirituall man discerneth all things 1. Corinth 2. 15. euen the deepe things of God vers 10. by the spirit which God hath giuen him ver 12. how much more is the whole company of all the spirituall able to performe the same wherefore the contrary to their doctrine must needs be an error Because it condemneth the whole streame of the faithfull teachers and Churches of all ages of an hainous and damnable crime namely the breaking the lesser commandements of God and the teaching of men so to doe whereby they exclude them by necessary consequence out of heauen Matthew 5. 19. which must needes bee a grosse error and no small sinne Because no scripture is of priuate interpretation 2. Peter 1. 20. either of priuate spirits of carnall persons though they be many as the interpretations of the Romish Popes and Doctors or of other heretickes failing in the foundation or of a few Godly and well affected Persons against the Ocean and world of the faithfull but the iudgements of the English depriued Ministers being against the whole true Church of Christ is but as a litle streame vnto the Ocean or a small field vnto the world their opinion therefore against the whole Church is of priuate interpretation and an error Because it is against the rules of Gods word and meanes appointed of God for the finding out of the trueth euen in such like cases as this for a few Ministers and other persons be they otherwise neuer so faithfull to be opposite in iudgement to the whole Church 1 One meanes is for learners to obey their teachers Hebrew 13. 17. especially teaching secundum legem according to the law Deut. 18. 11. but the Fathers and Godly learned Doctors since them being the Ministers of the Church of Christ in all ages are the Teachers of all others specially if they teach secundum legem which must be hearkened vnto and obeyed and whosoeuer doth not hearken to them so teaching erreth 2 An other meanes and ordinance of God is this that two or three Prophets speaking the rest must iudge of that they speake and that the spirit of the Prophets must bee subiect to the Prophets 1. Cor. 14. 29. 32. When therefore a few English Ministers doe speake in the Church the will of God is this that the whole Church of all ages and places should iudge but for the whole Catholike Church of all ages and places to speake and a few Ministers of one only Prouince and of one time to iudge and censure them is the mother of confusion and an enemie to peace as the Apostle saith 1. Cor. 14. 32. 33. and contrary to this rule and ordinance of God and therefore the way to error 3 An other meanes of Gods appointment euen in the like case with this that in matters of difference not onely about fundamentall points but also in matters of Ceremonies when the peace of the Church is broken about them the vnitie of brethren
a feeble Primacy the Pope had in those times besides his possibilities and actuality of erring euen in Catheàra being so countermaunded reprooued and disobeyed by such incomparable Churches and teachers Secondly how dangerously the Papists put the iumpe of all their sempiternall expectations vppon the credit euen of the greatest clerkes which so vntruely falsly and corruptly relate the recordes of antiquity Next for the effect and abuse of these things in the people wee may easily see that if the fountaines bee troubled the streames cannot bee cleere as may appeare by that which followeth Many things commaunded in the holy Scriptures and of very holsome and good vse were lesse respected and cared for then many light matters whereof they ouerbouldly presumed August Epist 119. cap. 19. Many of them neglected and swallowed great things placing opinion of religion and shewing great diligence in following or practising such things as had in them small profit Hieronymus in Mattheum cap. 23. Many of them were obserued to bee troublesome to others by being caried on with a contentious obstinacy others by a superstitious timorousnesse about such trifles as neither were comfirmed by authority of the holy Scripture nor by the custome of the Church in generall neither serued for any profit to the amendment of life and manners August Epist 118. cap. 3. As for example they were very superstitious and precise in bearing about certaine little peeces of the Gospels and of the wood of the crosse istiusmodi rebus and in the like things and vsque bodié factitant doing it euen to that day hauing the zeale of God but not according to knowledge straining at a gnat and swallowing a Cammell Hieron in Matt. cap. 23. They were maruelous precise in their fastings for on their fasting dayes they would eate no oile nor bread but figges pepper nutts dates flower hony pistachia all herbes and fruits growing in the garden delicias and other delicates they would not drinke water but they would haue instead thereof sorbitiunculas delicatas delicate suppings and the Iuice of herbes pressed out and that not in a cup but in the shell of a Sea-fish they sought famam abstinentiae in delitijs commendation of their abstinence by vsing delicates Hierom. calleth these things ineptiae superstitiones Ieiunium superstitiosum in Epist ad Neapot They censured such as dined on the Sabbath soberly and did not fast as the manner of some places was that namely they were in the flesh and could not please God that they were wicked persons belly mongers and that they sauoured of the flesh and of death and their voice was this recedant a me iniqui viam eorum esse nolo and they separated from them Aug. Epist 86. ad Casulanum They would not serue God in a temple once abused to Idolatry neither eate any herbes growing in the garden nor drinke any water running from the fountaine of an Idoll-temple Idem Epist 154. Publicol They would more sharpely reprooue a man qui per octauas suas terram nudo pede tetigerit Who during the time of their octaues should touch the ground with his bare feete then a man which was with wine starke drunke Idem Epist 119. cap. 19. Some of them did absteine from eating flesh with such a mind as that they iudged those persons vncleane which did eat thereof This Augustine writeth out of the report of Ianuar. Epist 119. cap. 20. and giueth his censure thereof that namely apertissimé contra fidem sanamque doctrinam est In a word many of them out of their owne fancies or from the custome of other places did cause such litigious questions about these matters vngrounded in the Scripture and vnprofitable in their nature that they thought nothing right which they did not themselues August Epist 118. cap. 3. And thus in part we see a small glimse of the state of the Primatiue Church of Christ which we commonly account and is heere extended from the daies of the Apostles vntil the time of S. Augustine or there about For afterwards the same which then was clouded declined vnto darke night and we will descend no lower knowing that iust exception might be taken at it in this argument Now in the next place we will giue a taste of the doctrine and practise of the Fathers and the faithfull in the middest of these corruptions that we may see how the doctrine of suffering depriuation for inconuenient ceremonies farre more for number and worse for qualitie then ours are pretended hath by them beene proposed and practised Touching their doctrine of this point thus they taught That the Apostles driftin their writings was not to set downe Canons and Decrees concerning Feasts and Holidaies or such like Ceremonies of the Church but to set downe a president of pietie good life and godly conuersation Socrat. 5. 22. Seeing there is no man able to shew any president or record in writing of fasting daies or the like traditions it is euident that the Apostles did leaue free choice and libertie to euery Church at the discretion thereof without feare compulsion and constraint to vse that which seemeth good and commendable for it selfe ibid. the like doth Augustine Epist 86. speake of fasting They obserued three sorts of Traditions or Ceremonies in the Churches of their times First such as Christ left to his Church expresly set downe in the Canonicall Scriptures which Augustine calleth an easie yoke and light burthen very few for the number very easie for the obseruation very excellent for signification he mentioneth onely baptisme and the Lords Supper whereby hee hath knit together the society noui Populi of the new Church Secondly such Traditions or Ceremonies in the Churches of their times as are not written but deliuered and are obserued throughout the whole world supposed to proceed from the Apostles or from the prescription of generall Councells whose authority was wholesome quoth he to be esteemed of such as the dayes obserued yeerely to the memoriall of Christ his passion resurrection asension and descension of the holy Ghost commonly called Pentecost or Whitsontide Thirdly such as in diuers parts and places of the world are obserued diuersly as for example that some doe fast on the Sabboth others doe not so some doe daily receiue the Communion other receiue it on certaine dayes In some places it is celebrated on all dayes without exception other where onely on Saturne dayes and on the Lords day Et si quid aliud huiusmodi animaduerti potest totum hoc genus rerum liberas habet obseruationes August Epist 118. cap. 1. 2. Ianuar. That there ought of necessity one faith to be spread ouer the whole Church as the soule within the members albeit this vnitie of faith be celebrated and solemnized with diuers obseruations by which diuersity that which is true in the substance of faith nullo modo impeditur is no way hindred because all the beautie of the Kings daughter is within but the outward Ceremonies
would euer practise or command those things after that they were growne so bad after that hee had seene iust cause to inueigh against them and condemne them in that manner To this purpose also the Apostles resolution in not suffering Titus to be circumcised when hee saw what an abuse that Ceremonie was growen vnto and how dangerous an effect was like to follow it if hee had yeelded vnto it maketh very strongly notwithstanding any thing that hee would seeme to say to the contrary in his answere to the sixt obiction as shall further appeare in the discussing of the fourth point that hath bene obserued in the confirmation of this his assumption 3. If it were granted that the Ceremonies which the Apostles vsed and appointed had bin notoriously knowen to haue beene subiect to so great abuse of some and to haue had in them so euill effects euen before or at that time and in those places also where the Apostles inioyned them yet could not this haue proued them euery way as inconuenient and euill as ours are For ours are said and sufficiently proued also as they suppose who haue suffered depriuation or suspension for this cause to bee euill not onely because they haue beene grossely abused and very euill effects haue followed the vse of them for so much may be said also of some of Gods owne ordinances but for that they neuer were good nor can euer serue to any good vse Those as they were at the first the ordinances of God so they are here said by Maister Spr. to haue beene still inioyned to certaine Churches by the Apostles which if it be so then could no abuse that obstinate Iewes or other wicked men had put them vnto make the vse of them either vnlawfull or inconuenient vnto the faithfull that by Apostolicall that is diuine authoritie were required to vse them And here fitly commeth to bee examined whether that bee true which is affirmed by him in his second reason which he brings for the proofe of this point viz. that nothing in substance is obiected against our Ceremonies which might not haue been said aswell against those which the Apostles and Churches of their times did vse In handling of this point as he hath left out much of the force and substance of euery argument which in the Abridgement the booke which himselfe quoteth are set downe against our Ceremonies so hath hee affirmed much more against them which the Apostles then vsed then he is able to iustifie and make good The trueth is that though euery one of those foure arguments doth strike to the heart the ceremonies of our Church yet is there neuer a one of them that doth giue the least touch vnto those which the Apostles and Churches then did vse For first Ours are humane inuentions notoriously knowen to haue been of olde and still to bee abused to idolatry and superstition by the Papists and yet of no necessary vse in the Church Theirs as they were at first by diuine institution so were they not at that time when they vsed them notoriously knowen to haue been abused either to idolatrie or to the confirmation of false and pernicious doctrine and were at that time of necessary vse and though they had been neuer so much abused and had beene also in any other of no necessary vse yet because they were vsed by warrant of Apostolicall and diuine authoritie this first argument toucheth them not at all hee doth indeede denie all this and quoteth Scripture to proue that they were humane inuentions of no necessary vse and abused to superstition But it hath beene already shewed that all these Scriptures are misunderstood and applied by him no more shal need to be said for the conuincing of him in this point when that himselfe cleerely and strongly contradicting himselfe hath both elsewhere in this argument and euen in this very place affirmed For were they humane inuentions which himselfe here sayth were practised and taught by direction of the holy Ghost were they of no necessary vse which he in the proofe of his first proposition of his first argument Num. 8. affirmes to haue bin commanded by the Apostles as matters good and necessary in that case and brings for proofe thereof Act. 15. 28. 2. Ours are humane Ceremonies appropriated to Gods seruice and ordained to teach spirituall duties by their mysticall signification Theirs as they were not appropriated to Gods seruice so neither were they vsed or appointed by the Apostles to bee vsed for mysticall signification or if they had yet seeing as hath before beene shewed they were not humane Ceremonies this argument doth not concerne them It is true indeed that they were in their first institution significatiue and mysticall and thus much the places quoted by him here viz. Col. 2. 16. 17 Heb. 8. 5. 9. 8 23 10. 1. do proue But that either the Apostles vsed them or ordained them that they might teach some spirituall dutie by their mysticall signification that hee hath not so much as indeauoured to proue And surely if Paul did vse circumcision as a Sacrament Acts 16. 3. then by the force of Master Spr. argument heere which maintaineth it lawfull for vs to doe now what the Apostles or Churches in their time did it may be concluded that it is lawfull for vs to vse in Gods seruice other Sacraments then those which God hath ordained 3. Ours being but humane Ceremonies are esteemed imposed and obserued as parts of Gods worship Theirs cannot be proued to be obserued by them much lesse imposed vpon them as parts of Gods worship and if they had yet because they were not humane Ceremonies this argument maketh nothing against them For what is this to the purpose that heere hee takes vpon him to prooue That the Iewes esteemed imposed and obserued them as necessarie to saluation Acts 15. 1. 5 That the zealous Iewes were violently offended with Paul for teaching that Christians ought not to circumcise their children and to liue after the legall customes Acts 21. 27 That the Apostles ordained them as good and necessary Act. 15. 28. 29 That the Apostle conformed himselfe vnto them for their sakes and in their presence that esteemed them as worships of God Acts 15. 1. 5. 16. 3. 21. 26 Seeing the question betweene vs is not heere whether the Iewes obserued and imposed Ceremonies as bad as ours but whether the Apostles or any Church by their appointment did so Did the Apostles or any of them whose conformity of Ceremonies is now in question betweene vs vse any Ceremony as imposed by those Iewes he speaketh of here And what though the Apostles called those things that by their decree was inioyned good and necessary will it follow from thence that they imposed them as parts of Gods worship or can nothing be good and necessary but that which is a part of Gods worship Though the superstitious estimation the people among whō they are vsed haue of them be
saluation by the Papists so were those practised by the Apostles esteemed by the Iewes yet the Apostles vsed them in case of necessity and so may wee these in the like case Secondly Abridg. fol. 38. I euer held it as an argument vrged by the depriued Ministers to perswade to the disuse of our Ceremonies that being in themselues needlesse a man hauing no necessity to vse them there is occasioned the stumbling of the weak by them the Papists and ignorant peoples abuse and opinion of Gods worship In which respect the practise of the Iewish Ceremonies might apparantly be taxed had it not beene in a case of superiour reason For the practise of them was in that case good necessary notwithstanding whatsoeuer abuse or offence might haue bin taken thereat so that they were done first voluntarily and not pressed on there conscience as Gods worships secondly on iust occasion as to redeeme the preaching of the Gospell and to win soules to Christ The fourth and last kinde of difference alleadged by my Brethren betweene our Ceremonies and the ceremonies of Apostolicall practise and iniunction of the rules prescribed in the word for the direction of the Church in the matters of ceremony which are not kept in the imposing and vsing of our Ceremonies as my Brethren say but were in those others by the Apostles First they say they are no way needefull which may be vnderstood either in respect of inioyning by our Gouernours or of practising by our Ministers In the inioyning of them againe we may consider the inioyning of them in their first plantation or for the present The inioyning of them in the first plantation in King Edwards dayes of what necessity it was it might easily be collected if we either consider the nature of coacted Churches gathered and reformed by authority of Princes where the most are worst and of how great difficulty it is to reforme all disorders at the first in comparison of Churches gathered by voluntary coition where all being willingly assembled will also willingly vnite their thoughts and proceedings to the best and this is one maine reason of the different degrees of reformation of different Churches This Church of England therefore being a coacted Church it is easie to imagine of what difficulty it was to reforme all things at the first where the most part of the Priuy Counsel of the Nobility Bishops Iudges Gentry people were open or close Papists where few or none of any countenance stood for religion at the first but the Protector and Cranmer Wherefore howsoeuer those worthy persons were sollicited and stirred vp by Caluins letters howsoeuer they laboured at the first and did what in them lay desiring to doe more as appeareth in the Preface of the common prayer Booke in the Rule before Commination howsoeuer they refined the booke of Common prayer in an 5. 6. Edwardi yet necessity compelled them there to stay The generall reasons whereof are excellently obserued and set downe by Zepperus which elsewhere I haue cited in my reasons Now if we looke to the present iniunction of our Ceremonies it is not for me to contest with authority or to call her to account for her proceedings she pretendeth necessity of enioyning them that omnis mutatio est periculosa plena scandalis and therefore also must be obserued for the only will and pleasure of such as inioyne them Now if authority on these or other like grounds will haue the Ceremonies practised or else will proceede to Depriuation there is heere an ineuitable necessity of conforming in the Ministers in which respect Conformity is simply needefull In this sense also though the ceremonies themselues be supposed to be smally profitable yet conformity to them in this case of necessity is most profitable for the edification of the Church though it bee denied by my Brethren And howsoeuer it may be granted that offence and hinderance to edification doe arise from these our Ceremonies yet it is certaine that there is no shew of comparison betweene the offence and hinderance of the peoples edification arising from the practise of the Ceremonies and the suffring of Depriuation for not conforming by euery Minister which my Brethren in their argument doe teach Now for the Iewish ceremonies to omit my Brethrens repetition of Appstolicall authority as being dealt withall before they say they were squared and directed by the rules of the holy scripture But to vnderstand this better we must needs distinguish betweene the different respects wherein wee may consider them first in their nature and then in their practise and then againe as it was needlesse or constrained or occasioned by iust reason of necessity for the furtherance of the word and good of the Church In their nature they were fruitlesse vnprofitable empty burdensome and most indecent Also in their needlesse vse they were not needfull or profitable they serued rather to destroy then edifie They were not profitable for order or decency they tended to infringe the Christian liberty and they were so farre from hauing no offence in them that they were aboue measure scandolous all which I haue so proued to my Brethren in my first and second reasons of this my first argument that though they deny and wonder yet they meddle not with any proofe thereof knowing that the very citation of the place would confute them But in their constrained vse or vse occasioned by reasons of necessity forealleadged that conformity to these Ceremonies was profitable necessary seruing to edifie by making way vnto the Churches peace and preaching of the Gospel it was ordered to vse them and this vse of the practise of indecent Ceremonies in nature did vphold one higher decency euen the decency of Apostolicall preaching conuerting soules planting of Churches and vnitie of brethren and thus that paradoxe or riddle is absolued which my brethren thought impossible to bee belieued that an indecency supported decency which if they had called to their remembrance they might haue seene how this fourth argument of the abridgement against our Ceremonies doeth very fitly square to those which the Apostles vsed Yet one thing remameth to bee considered which so much offendeth my brethren that they scarce hold it possible for a godly or learned man to hold namely to charge the holy Apostles first that they were offended in imposing that they did and secondly that they taught against the things which they iniòyed that namely they ought not to bee vsed by the Iewes or Gentiles But to the first I say that if it were necessitie that moued the Apostles to inioyne abstinence from bloud and strangled which were legall Ceremonies for they are called necessary things fol. 15. 28. yea without that necessitie they would not haue inioyned them if without necessitie vrging they would not haue inioyned them yea they must needes bee vnwilling and loth to doe that which without necessitie they would not doe If they were loth to doe it then they must needes