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A26927	Fair-warning, or, XXV reasons against toleration and indulgence of popery with the Arch-bishop of Canterbury's letter to the King and all the bishops of Irelands protestation to the Parliament to the same purpose : with an answer to the Roman-Catholicks reasons for indulgence : also the excellent reasons of the Honourable House of Commons against indulgence, with historical observations thereupon.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1663 (1663)	Wing B1263; ESTC R15222	25,663	47

must we needs have these among us that may persuade people too much inclined of themselves to sit in ignorance among us who after all our pains to instruct an ignorant world now persuade poor souls to be still alienated from the life of God to have their understanding still darkened to retain still the blindnesse of their hearts and can the enemy of mankind do any more shall we have those in the midst of us who notwithstanding all our endeavours to teach the world a saving knowledge of God shall yet and alas the murderer from the beginning desires no more persuade mankind that it is a vein thing to be filled with the knowledge of Gods will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding no Christian state can Tolerate those people whose Religion is to keep the world in ignorance of all Religion who know we must love God yet will not suffer us to know him who know we must obey him yet wil not suffer us to know his will Reason 2. That way that persuades men to believe and live by the traditions of men and to make the word of God of none effect is not to be tollerated how can a King who must give an account of himself to God answer for his connivance at that profession which teacheth men to live not by the will of God that made them but by the will of men like themselves How can Kings answer it if they suffer men to live by the Law of men and not of God will God endure that the world should be governed by the Creature and not by the Creator But Popery takes men off from the wil of God they say we have no Scripture but what the Pope allow do not they teach and that among Christians too that we must think the Scripture the word of God no longer than the Church saith it is so do not they write and that among us that waite upon God to hear the Scripture weekly and dayly that their customes and opinions are to be the Rule and foundation of our faith as well as the Scripture do not they equal the Popes decrees to Gods word and say their Church may impose new Articles of faith upon poor Souls every day prefering the judgement of the Church before the counsel of God that say the authority of the Church in its Laws is above the authority of God in the Scripture and yet the authority of the Pope in his decrees is above the authority of the Church in her Laws that say God in his word did not say enough to save men did not speak cleerly enough to instruct them in the knowledg of the truth Be wise O ye Kings be instructed O ye Judges of the Earth to what end hath he set up you but to see that men should walk according to his will to what end hath God advanced you but to see that men lived according to his Law hath God raised you up and will you suffer Anti-Christ to advance himself above every thing that is called God doth not God see this doth not he observe it Reason 3. That way which buildeth the salvation of men upon the Infallibility of one man is not to be tolerated Popery doth so therfore c. O Princes do you not watch over your people for good have you any care of precious Souls will you endure those men that will not suffer us to rest upon the foundation of God which standeth sure and allure us to trust in the foundation of men that wil fail wil you indulge men that delude your people to rely upon man that is a lye and the son of man that may deceive will your God keep silence when he observes you looking on men making one another a God and yet keep silence will you stand by and see God robbed of his honour and vain man indeavouring to be as God and use not that power God gave you to punish hath he pulled down the usurpers of your throne and will you not keep under the usurpers of his attributes hath he overturned them that would be Kings as well as you and will you encourage them that would be infallible as well as he can you stand still and see so many perish and led away in that great Errour of the wicked That man is Infallible O suffer not that way which leadeth us to man bottometh us upon man and leaveth us short of God Reason 4. That way that leaves men no certain way to be saved is not to be Tolerated Popery is that way c. When poor Souls would know how to be saved They say hear the Church If he say how shall I know wether the Church is infallible They say by the Scripture how shall we know the Scriptures they say by the Church O wil you suffer your subjects O ye Kings to be thus led in a maze to be thus perplexed in a circle for eternity is this your kindness to give them leave to be utterly at a loss for another world Is this Indulgence to let them live and dye they know not how besides its a cruel Favour to let people throw away their Souls upon these uncertain traditions decrees c. that the most learned can hardly understand if you love them keep them to the Law of God which is perfect converting the Soul the Testimoney of the Lord which is sure making wise the simple the commandement of the Lord which is pure enlightning the eyes the fear of the Lord which is clean enduring for ever the judgements of the Lord which are true and righteous altogether however be not so unmerciful us to let Christians cease to hear the Scripture that they may hear the Pope cease to be Christians that they may be Papists Reason 5 Being there is but one safe way to Salvation do you think that the Protestant way is that way or is it not If it be not why do you live in it If it be how can you find in your heart to give your subjects liberty to go another way can you in your Conscience give them leave to go on in that course in which in your conscience you think you could not be saved Reason 6. A way to serve God which no man can know must not be Tolerated O we must not be Indulged to worship we know not what Popery is a way that no man can certainly know For the Papists way is to believe as the Church believes Now a man knoweth not whether he believe a right in that way if he is not sure 1. That the Church of Rome is the true Church 2. That this Church is by the promise made to St. Peter infallible 3. That the Pope is Peter's true successor 4. They must know that he is rightly qualified duly well-chosen to his place 5. Whether the Cardinals the People or the Emperour have the right power to make a Pope For there have been Popes chosen by all these at one time 6. They must know which of

might advance the Catholique cause with security and confidence I promise my selfe that no ingenious Protestant will advance this Toleration which seemes to be the greatest designe that conclave of Rome manageth which is the wisest assembly of men that overlooketh the World have they embroyled us in war broken us in Religion confounded us in our government only for Toleration and shall it in peace be granted them if indulgences be the utmost that a Papist can with confidence desire and we know they are not overmodest it 's more then Protestants may with safety grant And whereas under the vizor of the sect before mentioned you are of late so earnest in pleading for a toleration deal but impartially like honest men and I will set in with you Procure but a toleration for the Reformed Christian Religion in Italy and Spain and your part of Germany Portugal c. and I should willingly petition the sovereign Powers in England that you might have as much liberty here But that you shall have full liberty here and Protestants have none where you can hinder it this is not equal dealing But how comes it to pass that you that pretend so much to unity are in this also of so many opinions the English Papists are for liberty of Religion and the Spanish and Italian are against it But I must cry you mercy I now consider It is but your selves that you think have right to liberty here and others should have it but in order to yours As hardly as you think you are used in England you live openly among us and no man that I hearof layeth hands on you When you know if a Spaniard or Italian be known to be a Protestant hee 's as sure tormented and burnt at a stake as the coat is on his back Do you not know this to be true Were I in these places where your Religion hath its will I know one leafe of this Book would cause me to be burnt to ashes that I am alive is because I am not in your power But for my part I wish not the shedding of one drop of your blood nor your imprisonment or banishment but only your moderate and necessary restraint from open iniquity and seducing of those that are unfurnished to encounter you 1. Either Scripture is True or not true If not Popery is not true which pleadeth its warrant from it And some of them argue as if they purposed to disprove the Scripture and to imitate Samson in pulling down the house on their own heads and ours in revenge for the dishonour they have suffered by the Scripture If it be true as nothing more true then Popery is not true which palpably contracteth it as in the points of Latine service and denying the Cup in the Lords Supper and many other is most evident 3. Either the Judgement of the ancient Doctors is sound or not If not then the Church of Rome is unsound that is sworn to expound the Scripture only according to their consent If it be sound then the Church of Rome is unsound that arrogate a universal Government and infallibility and build upon a foundation that was never allowed by the ancient Doctors as in the third Dispute I have fully proved and which most Christians in the World do still reject 4. Either Reason it self is to be renounced or not If it be then none can be Papists but mad men If not then Popery must be renounced which founded our very faith upon impossibilityes and teacheth men of necessity to believe in the Pope as the Vicar of Christ before they believe in Christ with many the like which are afterwards laid open 5. Either our five Senses and the Judgement made upon them is certain and infallible or not If not then the Church of Rome both Pope and Council are Fallible and not at all to be trusted For when all their Tradition is by hearing or reading they are uncertain whether ever they heard or read any such thing and we must all be uncertain whether they speak or write it And then we must not only subscribe to Fransc. Sanchez Quod nihil scitur but also say that Nihil certo creditur But if sense be certain and infallible then the Church of Rome even Pope and Council are not only Fallible but certainly false deceivers and deceived For the Pope and his Council tell the Church that it is not Bread and Wine which they take eat and drink in the Eucharist But the senses of all sound men do tell them that it is I see that it's Bread and Wine I smell it I feel it I taste it and somewhat I hear to further my assurance And yet if Popery be not false it 's no such matter One would think the dullest Reader might be quickly here resolved whether Popery be true or false Look on the consecrated bread and Wine touch it smell it taste it and if thou canst but be sure that it is indeed Bread and Wine thou maist be as sure that Popery is a delusion And if thou canst but be sure that it is not Bread and Wine yet thou maist be sure that the Pope or his Council nor any of his Doctors are not to be believed For if other mens senses be deceitfull theirs and thine are so too Reader Adhere to God and the Righteousnesse of Christ and the Teachings of the Holy Ghost by the Holy Scriptures and a faithfull Ministry in the Communion of the Saints and as a member of the Catholique Church which arising at Jerusalem is dispersed over the World containing all that are Christians renounce not right Reason or thy senses and live according to the light which is vouchsafed thee and then thou shalt be safe from Popery and all other pernicious damning errours Richard Baxter Catholique An answer to the Roman Catholiques Reasons for Indulgence JUst as I was closing this afternoones diversion the Reasons aforesaid come to my hand Reasons why Roman Catholiques should not be persecuted what indeed I expected it being an ill cause for which so many Learned Men as are devoted for that way can say nothing and though I hear they are answered by an abler hand yet thus much I thought fit to adde concerning them Reason We have great reason to bless God that they deal with us with calme reasons who dealt with our forefathers with cruell persecutions that when they burned them they are so restrained that they can only dispute with us that they only argue here while they banish as in Poland torment as in Spain Massacre as in other places not unto us not unto us it is even so O Father because so it pleased thee Reasons why Roman Catholiques reason is as universall as Mankind and of as great a compasse as nature doeth reason say in England that Roman Catholiques shall not be persecuted and doeth not reason say in Spain Italy c. that poor Protestants shall not be tormented doeth mens reason tell them that a small