to be made speak for both sides whither shall we have recourse for satisfaction but to the ancient Churches of Christ in which the Apostles converst from thence to hear what the truth is viz. Quid Apostoli quid primi fideles quid corum successores c. what the Apostles what their Disciples and successors what the primitive Saints and Martyrs Councels and Fathers have received taught and delivered unto others For what came the word of God out from you or came it unto you only 1 Cor. 14.36 Since the Word of God comes not first to us but by and from the Church it is delivered it followes that the sense and meaning of Gods word must not spring from our own heads but to be by and from the Church delivered together with the word The learned Doctor Whittaker in his disputes against the authority of the Church Whit. de sac Q. 3. con 1. c. 2. Dupl advers Staplet as it is by some Romanists preferred before the authority of holy Scriptures doth yet acknowledge these four offices in the Church in order to the Scriptures 1. That the Church is the Register and conserver of the Scriptures 2. The Judge both to discern and define what Scriptures are Canonical and what Apocryphal 3. To be the promulgator or publisher of them to all its members the people of God where ever dispersed over the face of the earth And 4. To be the interpreter and expounder of them and in these respects to contemn or neglect the Ministry and Testimony of the Church is the way to erre from the faith saith he to rush into certain destruction And in these cases I may very well adde the words of our Lord He that will not hear the Church let him be unto thee as a Heathen or a Publican Mat. 18.17 CHAP. XII Three inferences hence appliable to the general subject of the whole discourse ANd now if we lay all these together The knowledge of Tongues and Languages of History and Antiquity of Arts and Sciences as Rhetorick Logick natural and moral Philosophy of the Analogie of the true Faith and of the Doctrine of the Church Councels and Fathers all which do appear necessary to the right understanding of holy Scriptures we may very well hence infer 1. That the work of the Ministry in the interpretation of the Scriptures is not so slight and easie a business as too many persons now a daies make of it And they who can so easily run from the plough to the pulpit and from the meanest trades and employments of the world to intermeddle with the most sublime and celestial mysteries of godliness who pretending to the Spirit and yet have not these gifts of the Spirit and to divine Revelation being altogether devoid and destitute of the means thereof do thereby become vain in their imaginations liable to strong delusions giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of Devils and that for want of learning 1 Tim. 4.1 which they do therefore despise only because they want it they do pervert and wrest the Scriptures to their destruction And 2. That 't is not immediate Revelation we must depend upon for the right understanding of holy Scriptures since these several parts of what is called humane learning hath appeared necessary thereunto for otherwise 't was in vain that 1. The Apostles of Christ which at the first were illiterate should be extraordinarily and miraculously endued with the gifts of learning 2. That such persons should be called both ordinarily and extraordinarily to the Prophetical office as were eminent for learning and knowledge not immediately infused but by their studies and industry and Gods blessing thereupon acquired 3. That it were also in vain we should be commanded to hear read study meditate seek search and dive for knowledge 4. That in vain also hath God of his great mercy afforded us the writings directions and instructions of holy and learned men in all ages 'T is an undeniable truth that Deus natura nihil faciunt frustra There are no arts of the divine Providence useless and unprofitable But as God of his great mercy is never wanting to give what is needful so of his great wisdome he is never lavish in giving more then is needfull Vnumquodque propter operationem suam God hath made all things for their uses every book and every writing of the learned orthodox and holy and every tongue and every science in every such book is for the manifestation of some truth and the profit of some soul That I am sure is the end of Gods Spirit thereby what ever may be the end of mans For the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall 1 Cor. 12.7 3. And thirdly we may very well hence infer also that 't is an over bold rash and saucy presumption in any persons of what quality or breeding soever to assume the office of Priesthood and start up preachers of the Gospel being not first well studied and endowed with the several qualifications of learning and knowledge requisite thereunto Adde hereunto the dignity of those precious jewels committed to their charge viz. The immortal souls of men which are of so great value before God as neither gold silver nor any corruptible thing could redeem them 1 Pet. 1.18 but the bloud of Christ the eternal Son of God as a lamb without blemish now that which cost our Redeemer so dear and is designed either to eternal happiness or eternal misery according as 't is more or lesse wisely and carefully ordered requires surely such a guide and pastor as is not only wise learned and discreet but also vigilant careful and conscientious Under the Law how unwilling was Moses to be sent on the Lords message though he was a learned man Exod. 3. and so was Jeremy also I am a childe and cannot speak Jer. 1.6 And many others cautious of their own weaknesse and of the great abilities required to the execution of so great a function have more safely declined then arrogantly assumed the same Greg. de cura past l. 2. c. 7. Hinc quique praecipites colligant c. from hence all forward novices may observe how great a guilt of sinful presumption they contract who set up themselves to be teachers of others whilest they have yet need to be taught themselves since that yet holy men of God were afraid to undertake so weighty a calling even when God himself called and commanded them thereunto Under the Gospel Christ himself who is the word of God and the wisdome of the Father would not preach till he was 30. years old Vt vim saluberrimi timoris Greg. ibid. c. That he might infuse the vertue and efficacy of wholsome fear and caution into the hearts of the over forward since he who could not erre in his preachings would not yet preach the waies of perfection and felicity till he was of perfect age The Apostles of Christ
ubique ab omnibus at all times in all places by all persons Councels and Fathers and is by the merciful providence of God in spite of all opposition from Infidels Heretiques and Schismatiques brought down unto us Prov. 3.5 This Faith must be the rule according to which we must steer our interpretations of holy Scriptures not leaning to our own understanding or abounding in our own sense but ever submitting our private judgement to the publique judgement of the Church which in the Apostles own times was commanded when the gift of prophesie or interpretation of Scripture was by more immediate and extraordinary inspiration communicated yet even then the judgement of the Church was to be allowed in the interpretation of Scripture 1 Cor. 14.29 Let the Prophets speak two or three and let the other judge objection But 't is here objected Numb 16.14 Wilt thou put out the eyes of these people must we not see with our own eyes but only with those of the Church Shall we pin our faith upon any mens sleeves What need we the authority of men when we have Gods own authority for our direction and men are but men i. e. frail and liable to error so that all they affirm is not to be taken for Gospel In answer whereunto consider answer 1. That there is a great deal of difference betwixt an implicite faith and blinde obedience to the dictates of the Church and a submission to the publique judgement thereof The first deprives the people of their reason and judgement the second renders them more meek humble submissive and obedient and thereby more capable to receive the impression of the knowledge of celestial mysteries 2. Nihil carum rerum scire quae antè nascereris sacta sum hoc est semper esse puerum Cic. That we assert not the ancient and learned Fathers of the Church ut dominos sed ut duces fidei Not as Lords over our faith but as guides in the true belief And he that knows nothing of the Religion of the Fathers for his guidance and direction is most likely still to continue a childe in his religion Nor 3. Quicquid omnes vel plures uno eodemque sensu manifestè frequenter perseveranter velut quod am sibi consentiente concilio accipiendo tenendo tradendo firmaverint id pro indubitato certo ratoque habeatur Quicquid vero quamvis ille doctus sanctus quamvis Episcopus praeter omnes aut etiam contra omnes senserit id inter proprias privatas opiniunculas à communis publicae generalis sententiae authoritate secretum sit Vinc. Lyr. are we to receive for Oracle all that the ancient reverend Fathers of the Church did affirm being very few amongst them but had their particular errors and mistakes and in many particulars also 't is confessed they did contradict each other 'T is not therefore the affirmations and private opinions of particular persons we must look upon as the Doctrine of true Religion and true meaning of the Scriptures but the general and universal consent of all for that all should erre and fall from the truth is contrary to what our Lord hath promised who will undoubtedly be as good as his word Mat. 16.18 Vpon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall never prevail against it and Mat. 28.20 I am with you alway even to the end of the world In a word in the interpretation of Scriptures and for the confirmation of holy truths thence deduced the authority of the ancient Fathers and Doctors of the Church is to be consulted and known for these reasons 1. Because they are certain and undeniable witnesses of what the Church and the people of Christ did in their respective times believe and hold for orthodox Doctrine If the same doctrine St. Augustine taught in Africk was also taught by St. Chrysostome in Greece by St. Ambrose in Italy by St. Hierome in Palestine and so in other places by holy and reverend Bishops and Pastors of the Church then this undoubtedly was the doctrine of the Church and thus were the holy Scriptures understood in those ages of the Church Ita intellexit Ambrosius ita Cyprianus c. Thus Ambrose thus Cyprian understood such or such a place of Scripture this had some weight in St. August time and St. Aug. opinion and there is no reason but that it should be of the same force still amongst us 'T is no way probable but that persons so eminent in learning and in piety so frequent in holy prayers and meditations in fastings and wailings so indefatigable in their studies and labours in the Word and Doctrine and who laid down their lives and fortunes for the doctrine they preached should more truly understand the Scriptures and the truth of Christian Religion then we who if there be any thing of Modesty and Humility in our hearts must confesse our selves far inferiour to them in the said gifts and graces of the holy Spirit Vsque adeo promiscuit imis summa longus dies c. Aug. Hath time so confounded all things is light so changed into darkness and darkness become light ut videant Pelagius c. that Haeretiques now are the only seers Et caeci sunt Hilarius Cyprianus Ambrosiùs And the learned pious Fathers of the Church become blinde The words are too much appliable to the Heretiques of the times 3. The judgement of the Fathers being so far remote from these times wherein we live must needs be impartial as to the controversies amongst us touching the interpretation of any texts of Scripture or doctrines therein delivered as being altogether disinterested and knowing nothing of our disputes and contestations thereabouts Nullas nobiscum vel vobiscum amicitias attenderunt c. Aug. contra Julian Pelag. They were neither in friendship nor in community with us or with them who in this age are of a contrary opinion to us they were neither angry with us nor them neither did they pity either of us but what they found professed in the Church they faithfully preserved what they learned they taught and what they received from their fathers they delivered unto us their children and undoubtedly Survey of the pretended discipline as a learned man of our Church observes they that contemn the learned Fathers that went before them do but open a gap to their own discredit making way thereby to be contemned themselves by all those that shall come after 4. We cannot but reasonably imagine that those holy and learned persons who lived nearer the Apostles times should proportionably know better the Apostles meaning in their writings and the doctrine they preached then any of us who live so many hundred years since Therefore saith Irenaeus Iren. l. 3. ch 4. who was the Disciple of Polycarpus the Disciple of St. John Where any question ariseth and the holy Scripture as 't is too common Vinc. Ler. is so perverted as
smaller parcels Denique penitus inspecta omnes haereses in multis cum autoribus suis dissentientes deprehenduntur Tert. de prae cont Haer. c. 42. The Anabaptists amongst us are subdivided into Antinomians Brownists Seekers Ranters Quakers Familists c. And finally saith the Father look into all Heresies and you may easily finde them in many things dissenting even from their own authors and Founders And seldome shall you see Heretiques agree in any one point except it be to oppose and cry down the Truth as Herod and Pilat against Christ 6. From the same dark Abysse of Ignorance Neque nâ—… natae sunt haereses quaedam dogmata illaqueantia animos in profundum praecipitantia nisi dum scripturae bonae intelligerentur malè quod in iis non bene imelligitur etiam temerè audacter asseritur Aug. in Joh. Tract 18. under the semblance of self-conceited wisdome hath sprung that which is of all others the greatest cause of Heresies viz. The misinterpretation and mis-application of the holy Scriptures For saith the Father Heresie had never sprung up nor false doctrines bewitching and destroying the souls of men had never been broacht had not the good word of God been ill understood and that also which is but ill and weakly understood been rashly and presumptuously affirmed 'T is ever the custome of Heretiques to alledge holy Scriptures in a wrested and perverted sense making those sacred writings like a nose of wax turning and writhing them to this and to that and to every sense that best agrees with their own vain imaginations Aliter Photius aliter Novatianus c. One Heretique understands it this way and another diversly from him and a third distinct from both and all put another sense upon the words of God then ever his holy Spirit intended therein Pro voluntatis suae sensu Hilar. Vinc. Lir. adversus Haer. c. 2. The sense of their own minde and spirit not of Gods Spirit Hil de trinitate l. 2. they put upon the Scriptures which occasion'd that complaint of S. Hierome Sola scripturarum ars est quam sibi passim omnes vendicant Hanc garrula avus hanc delirus senex hanc so phista verbosus hanc universi presumunt lacerant docent ante quam discant Hier. ad Pel. l. 1. c. 6. 'T is only the Art of understanding Scriptures which all persons challenge to themselves This the pratling old wife and the doting old man and the wrangler full of words this all men presume unto and upon presumption of their interest therein they tear and wrest and abuse it at their pleasure presuming to teach the doctrine thereof before they have half learned it As in the natural creation of children too many are the issue of lust and wantonness nor is it considered when they are begotten how they shall be kept even so 't is in the spiritual brood of Heresies pride covetousness and ignorance begets them before the authors know how to maintain them but as children when they are once gotten must be kept though they pinch upon their neighbours so this heretical crew rather then the opinions which are the issue of their pride and vanity should die they will steal the sineere milk of the word to nourish them or in language of another strain rather then they will submit their vain imaginations to the truth and true meaning of Gods word the truth of that must submit to their imaginations Videtis id vos agere ut omnis scripturarum de medio auferatur authoritas suus cuique animus author sit quid in quaque scriptura probet quid improbet id est non ut authoritati subjiciatur scripturarum ad fidem sed ut sibi scripturas ipse subjiciat non ut illi ideo placeat aliquid quia hoc in sublimi authoritate scriptum legitur sed ideo rectè scriptum videatur quia hoc illi placuit Aug. cont Faust And this saith the Father is the way to rob the Scripture of its authority whilest every mans own imagination must tell him what it allowes and what it disallowes this is not to be subject to the authority of the Scriptures but to make the Scriptures subject to our imaginations so that therefore this or that is not acceptable unto them because 't is written in the word of God but therefore 't is well said or written there because 't is acceptable unto them The great danger they incur who put another sense upon the holy Scriptures then Gods holy Spirit ever intended therein is represented to us by the strange fire which that rebellious crew under the conduct of Corah Dathan and Abiram offered up unto the Lord there came out a fire from the Lord and devoured the presumptuous sacrificers Numb 16.18,35 So those unlearned and unstable souts which wrest the Scriptures do it to their own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 As a remedy to prevent so great mischief Lat. conc secundum sess 11. the ancient Fathers thought it meet to provide saith the reverend Andrewes that they who took upon them to interpret the Scriptures should put in sureties that the sense they gave of them should be no other then what the Church in former times acknowledged So Vinc. Lirin also Propter tantos tam varii erroris anfractus necesse est ut propheticae Apostolicae interpretationis linea secundum ecclesiastici catholici sensus normam dirig aâ—… Vinc. Lir. advers Haer. c. 2. By reason of the manifold windings and turnings of the Scriptures for the maintenance of several errors 't is necessary to direct the line of prophetical and Apostolical interpretation according to the rule of an Ecclesiastical sense and meaning for Quis unquam Haereses c. saith the same Author Who ever brought in an Haeresie but first he disagreed from the consent of antiquity and of the ancient Catholique Church Et in laqueum sit verbum Dei saith Estius the holy Word of God becomes a snare and a stumbling block to all those who contemning the authority of the Church presume to impose their own private sense upon it And he that obtrudes his private sense of Scripture upon his hearers not only lords it over their faith Estius in Rom. 11.9 but over the faith of the universal Church of Christ nay he makes null and void the authority of holy Scriptures for Scripture is no more Scripture if not rightly interpreted 7. Another general cause of erroneous opinions in Religion is Hypocrisie when men are cold and lukewarm and too negligent in the practise which is the life of Christianity when they receive not the love of the Truth so as readily to obey and practise it then it is just with God to give them up to strong delusions Nay hereby men lay themselves open to the delusions of Heretiques because the excellency of holy Christian truths are not cannot be known but by the practise and experience thereof
Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the Scriptures seeing you are contrary to the Scriptures and follow your own inventions and traditions and so erre from them question 20 Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years after question 21 Whether ever Christ or the Apostles did retain 100 or 200 l. a year for preaching the Gospel question 22 What Scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church whereas the Church is in God 1 Thess 1.1 question 23 What Scripture is there to have the Clark to say Amen and have groats a piece of the world to maintain his trade question 24 What Scripture is there for taking money to bury the dead question 25 What Scripture is there for taking 10 or 20 s. for preaching a Funeral Sermon question 26 What Scripture is there for taking money for marrying man and woman question 27 When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospel sue men at the Law If thou be a Minister of Jesus Christ which exerciseth a pure conscience towards God and towards Man clear thy self from the guilt of these things and answer them in writing by the Scriptures or Saints examples or else in silence confesse thy self to be guilty and one of those that Christ cryed woe against acting the same things now as they did then filling up the measure of thy fathers iniquity which said they were Jewes and were not but were of the synagogue of Satan Thou sayest they must be learned men and brought up in Scholastical waies and by that means they must open the Scriptures because thou sayest they were first given forth in Greek and Hebrew which you call the Original and therefore ignorant men cannot understand them but must have your meanings interpretations and dimensions of your own brain and thus you deceive the simple But answer me this question Whether the Scriptures as they are written in English be true as Christ and the Apostles spoke them forth and if they be true as they are in English what need any other language be learned by an English man to know them R. H. THE QVAKERS several Questions WITH The Answers Returned R. H. FOR what relative title to give you without offence I understand not I received your paper of many strange scrupulous Questions And though it be most true that one fool may aske more Questions then 100. wise men can answer as the common proverb goes yet we are taught by a more authentick proverb sometimes Prov. 26.5 to answer a fool in his folly lest he be wise in his own conceit I say not this to upbraid your person but with reflexion on the follies and errors displaid in your several questions which will appear I believe in the following answers if you read them as becomes a good Christian without prejudice partiality or obstinacy of mind but with the spirit of meekness and a desire to 1 Thess 5.21 try all things and hold fast that which is good question 1 Whether your Gospel be the same the Apostles preached and if it be why go you to Oxford or Cambridge when the Apostle saith the Gospel he preached was not after man neither was he taught it by man answer We preach the same Gospel the Apostles preached but do not attain the knowledge and understanding of this Gospel by the same means the Apostles were eye-witnesses and ear-witnesses of the sayings and doings of Christ which is the sum of the Gospel the mysteries whereof they understood by immediate revelation from heaven being both publiquely visibly and miraculously inspired with extraordinary gifts of the Spirit Act. 2.1,2,3,4 inabling them both more fully to understand and more powerfully to preach the Gospel Schools they had at Bethel 2 King 2.3 at Jericho v. 5. and Elishas Colledge was so full that they inlarged it 2 King 6.1 and at Naioth 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 1 Sam. 10.5,10 then any mortal man could ever hope for since But we do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do we or ought we to depend upon any such immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven but do use those ordinary means and helps which God in his merciful providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Neither go we to Oxford and Cambridge to learn the Gospel we preach but to learn the knowledge of those tongues and languages arts and sciences which are the external means enabling us to understand and open the meaning of the Gospel by the good hand of God upon us prospering our labours and studies to that end that being well grounded in the truth we might not be deceived and mistake the inventions and errors of men and doctrines of seducing spirits for 1 Tim. 4.1,2 the doctrines and commandements of God Even as you went to School to learn to write and read that you might read the Scriptures indeed but not 2 Pet. 3.16 pervert them to your own destruction and that you might write your minde in truth and sincerity but not to write scrupulous questions to puzzle and poyson the souls of the simple who cannot see into the depth of your delusions question 2 Whether you can give another meaning to the Scriptures then they are or whether the Apostles did not give the meaning to them when they spake them forth yea or no and if they did what need learned men give a meaning to them answer The sense and meaning of the Scripture is involved and infolded in it even as the kernel of a nut is within the shell to finde out which sense and declare it and make it appear from under those several kindes of metaphorical and figurative expressions which commonly clothe and cover it is a part of our task and duty And this we do by a serious diligent and intent searching weighing and pondering the texts of Scriptures by comparing and conferring several places by observing the connexions and coherences by sincere and impartiall collecting and observing the several truths contained therein and also flying unto God by prayer and devotion for assistance in the work And that it belongs to learned men to give the Sense and meaning of the Scriptures we have in the old Testament the example of Ezra the Scribe that is the Learned Neh. 8.4,5,6,7,8 who stood upon a Pulpit of Wood high above all the people made purposely for preaching and the Levites caused the people to understand the Law and this they did not only by reading the Law distinctly but they gave the sense saith the Text and caused the people to understand the reading In the new Testament Christ himself took a text and preached upon it Luk. 4.17 -22. Philip took the text which the Eunuch read in Esay and preached Christ unto him Act. 8 30 -37. converting the Eunuch by giving the sense of
Prophets and false Spirits often in the Word commands exhorts admonisheth to beware of such not to give heed to such and not to beleeve every spirit but to try them 1 Tim. 4.12 Mat. 7.15 1 Joh. 4.1 question 18 Whether they be not seducers which tell people these are the ordinances of God which God never commanded as sprinkling Infants telling people of a Sacrament which there is no Scripture for and draw them from the spirit within to follow your in aginations and inventions answer They who are guilty of calling humane inventions Gods ordinances are seducers we confesse But for the sprinkling Infants as you scornfully call Baptism which is Gods ordinance for he hath ordained and commanded it to be observed I have already given you the grounds of it out of the Scriptures and we call it a Sacrament as being a terme best expressing the nature of it which you would confesse if you understood it And for the spirit within I have already told you out of Scripture that we are not blindfolded to follow the dictates thereof but to try them by the Spirit speaking in the Word And thus to draw men from the spirit within is not to follow our own imaginations since God by his holy Spirit commands the same question 19 Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles acd Prophets which gave forth the Scriptures seeing you act contrary to the Scriptures and follow your own inventions and tradition and so erre from them answer They that doe believe or act any thing contrary to the Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles are not led by the same spirit but in saying that we do this herein I must tell you that you doe falsly and flatly belie us since both we can and you see we do prove our Ministerial actions to be agreeable to the Scriptures question 20 Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first Baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years afterwards answer Christ himself was Baptized being a person not capable of faith and repentance for he was above both Heb. 12.2 of faith he was the author and finisher the person in whom we are to beleeve and of repentance he was not capable who knew no sin and the Baptism of Christ sure it is to be our pattern and grand example Joh. 3.16 1 Pet. 2.22 The Apostles also baptized many persons who had not true Faith and Repentance but were Hypocrites as Simon Magus Alexander the Coppersmith Demas Diotrephes And Simon Magus had repentance preached unto him after he was baptized many daies as the Text clearly expresseth Act 8.13,22 From all which Examples it is manifest that Faith and Repentance are not necessarily required of all persons as to the reception of Baptism but to the blessed effects and fruits thereof pardon of sin c. 2. Neither are children also absolutely and altogether destitute of Faith and Repentance they have these Graces in the power though not in the act In the seed though not in the fruit In the promise for and in their behalf though not in the present actual performance Therefore called the servants of God believers little ones that believe in me Lev. 25 41,42 Mat. 18.3,4,5,6,7 Act. 16.33 18 8. And under the general notion of families and housholds they are rankt amongst persons baptized converted and serving the Lord. question 21 Whether ever Christ and his Apostles received 160 or 200 pounds a year for preaching the Gospel answer Christ himself when he preached the Gospel was maintained by the gifts and benevolence of his Auditors who ministred unto him of their substance And the Apostles for preaching the Gospel had more I believe then 100 l. or 200 l. a year Mar. 15.41 for many of their Converts sold all their estates and brought it and laid it down at the Apostles feet For saith the Apostle If we have sown unto you spiritual things is it a great matter if we reap your carnal things Act. 4.34,37 Rom. 15.27 1 Cor. 9.11 question 22 What Scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church when as the Church is in God 1 Thes 1.1 answer We do not limit God to a place who is every where and filleth the World but yet after a special manner Jer. 23.23 Mat. 18.20 When two or three are gathered together in his Name to worship him and call upon his Name there is he in the midst of them And this place of Assembly we call a Church because the Church or People of God do there assemble to his Service and 't is a Scripture term too though you know it not for as there is a Church in God and in Christ Jesus 1 Thess 1.1 1 Thess 1.1 that is persons devoted to Gods service in and through Jesus Christ So there is a Church of God 1 Cor. 11.22 1 Cor. 11.22 The place namely where such persons do assemble and joyn in Divine Worship But since you cry down all distinctions as savouring of humane Learning whereby the naked truth of things might be clearly and distinctly seen as they are in themselves without conjunction with other things it is no marvel you are so blinde as not to distinguish men from houses persons from places the servants of God from the places of his service question 23 What Scripture is there to have a Clark to say Amen and to have groats a piece of the world for his trade answer 'T is the duty of all good people to say Amen to every good Prayer or what is spoken tending either to Gods glory or their own good and this you shall finde both commanded and practised in the Scriptures Psal 106 46. Neb. 8 6. 2 Pet. 3. ult Rev. 22.20 if you do but consult the Marginal Texts I may therefore rather demand of you why do not rather all the people say Amen then you ask of me why one man doth so And for the Groat he receives yearly of some persons in the world who are not all of the world as you uncharitably censure them I conceive it is not to be so much for saying Amen as for many other Offices wherein he is usefull both to Pastor and People question 24,25,26 What Scripture is there for taking money for burying the dead or to have ten or twelve shillings for Preaching a Funeral Sermon or to take money for marrying man or woman answer For our pains in labouring in the Word and Doctrine the Apostle gives this general rule 2 Tim. 5.17,18 The Labourer is worthy of his wages and what their wages is for their particular pains and labours in this or that Ministerial Function whether more or lesse is not of our choosing but partly the liberality of Founders and Benefactors partly custome amongst all people in all Christian Countries hath setled it question 27 When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospel sue men at the Law answer We confesse that to be contentious and
notwithstanding that they were conversant with Christ all the while he continued preaching the Gospel upon earth daily heard his heavenly Doctrine as it distilled from his own mouth and saw the miracles he did for the confirmation thereof and though they were endued in some measure with the gifts and graces of the Spirit before his ascension For he breathed on them c. Luk. 24.45 He opened their understandings to understand the Scriptures yet all this was not thought sufficient to preach and open the mysteries of the Gospel to the world but they were forbidden to do it till they received additional gifts of learning and knowledge from above Luk. 24.49 Tarry you at Hierusalem till you be endued with power from on high Gloss ordin in Loc. Vt exemplum sequentibus daretur c. Giving example to all posterity that no weak and illiterate persons wanting the gifts of Tongues Arts c. presume to intermeddle with preaching or unfolding the mysteries of the Gospel 'T is recorded of the great St. Basil and Nazianzen Ruffin Lib. 2. cap. 9. that after their long studies in saecular learning they continued for the space of thirteen yeers together in a monastery giving themselves to the study of holy Scriptures the sense and meaning whereof they fetcht not out of their own heads but out of the writings and authority of the ancients to whom by succession from the Apostles the rule of right understanding the Scriptures was apparently known The order of divine wisdome and providence in the dispensation of holy truths to the world is worth our observation out of 1 Cor. 12.4,5,6 There are diversities of gifts but the same Spirit there are diversities of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God that worketh all in all From hence it is easie to observe that there must be gifts before administrations i. e. 1. A man must be qualified with gifts fit for every calling before he receive administration or be ordained to that calling 2. There must be administration before operation i. e. A man must be lawfully ordained to a calling before he work or labour therein So in the great calling of the Ministry the gifts of the Spirit must precede or go before before Letters of administration be taken And 2. a lawful ordination must be taken before operation or working therein And he that either 1. assumes this high and sacred function Bish Ands. serm in 1 Cor. 12.14 c. being not qualified with gifts contemns the Spirit from whom they come Or 2. He that labours in the word and Doctrine though he be gifted being not also lawfully ordained contemns the Lord from whom all administrations come and who hath instituted and commanded ordination thereunto Or 3. He that being both gifted and lawfully ordained is not industrious in this calling contemns God the Father of all operations who worketh all in all He that thinks any of these superfluous may as well question whether some one Person of the Trinity be not superfluous also even that Person from whom comes that part of the division which he slights and contemns As it is therefore in the order of the Trinity as the Father begets the Son and from the Father and the Son proceeds the holy Ghost So in this Division the gifts of the Spirit beget the Lords Administration or calling to the Ministry and both together produce the operation or labour therein which is the work of God and as no man comes to Christ but by the holy Ghost so no man comes lawfully to the calling but by the gifts and as no man comes to the Father but by the Son so no man comes to the work but by the calling CHAP. XIII The internal and divine qualifications of the soul as to the understanding of holy Scriptures 1. T Is confessed that all the external parts of humane learning already remembred though they be the gifts and blessings of Gods Spirit and necessary helps to the opening of the Letter and right understanding of the literal and genuine sense of Gods word yet are not in themselves alone sufficient to attain a true and throughly saving knowledge thereof except our souls be enricht as with the outward gifts so with inward graces of the holy Spirit also Truth and Holiness are the two inseparable constituent parts of spiritual wisdome and to understand the truth or true meaning of the Spirit of Truth in the word the Spirit of holiness must necessarily concur And this is most eloquently expressed Job 28. where after a most high and magnificent expression of the praises great price and value of true wisdome a view is taken of all the parts of the world where it might be found gold and silver iron and brasse all useful metals and precious stones have their places though secret designed them but where shall this rich pearl where shall wisdome be found and what is the place of understandings Vers 12. It is not found in the land of the living the depth saith It is not in me and the sea saith It is not in me Vers 14. It is hid from the eyes of all living and kept close from the fowls of the air vers 21. The most Eagly sighted Philosophers and wisemen of the world who have viewed the natures properties and causes of all things not in the earth alone but in the heavens also even the courses influences and operations of the Sun Moon and Stars have not yet attained true wisdome how then shall we finde it out it followes God knoweth the place thereof and he understandeth the way thereof vers 23. And he hath said Behold the fear of the Lord that is wisdome and to depart from evil is understanding briefly describing both the place of wisdome and the way thereunto even the way of piety and obedience And of that piety which is necessarily requisite to the understanding of holy Truth there are several species or particular parts which from the example of holy Bernard may be thus reckoned up Qui ut legeret intelligendi fecit cupiditas ut intelligeret oratio impetravit ut impetraret quid nisi vitae sanctitas promeruit His earnest desire of knowledge made him studious and industrious in reading his fervent prayers obtained the understanding of what he read and his holy life made his prayers effectual for the enlightning of his understanding and thus he must desire thus study thus pray and thus live who will attain that knowledge which shall make him wise to salvation 1. The first divine qualification of the soul requisite unto knowledge is the desire thereof The beginning of wisdome is the desire of instruction Wisd 6.17 Come unto me all ye that be desirous of me and fill your selves with my fruits Ecclesiasticus 24.19 and what is more authentick If thou seekest wisdome as silver and searchest for her as for hid treasure then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord and