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A16171 A disproofe of D. Abbots counterproofe against D. Bishops reproofe of the defence of M. Perkins reformed Catholike. The first part. wherin the now Roman church is maintained to be true ancient catholike church, and is cleered from the vniust imputation of Donatisme. where is also briefly handled, whether euery Christian can be saued in his owne religion. By W. B.P. and D. in diuinity Bishop, William, 1554?-1624. 1614 (1614) STC 3094; ESTC S102326 229,019 434

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heavenly building 1. Cor. 3. though our saviour Christ Iesus bee the chief fundation and corner stone yet next to himself hee hath placed Saint Peter and hath vpon him as vpon a firme rock builded his church which is as much to say as that hee gave him firme and infallible authoritie vpon which all the faithfull should rely for finall resolution in all doubts of faith religion and manners which do necessarily appartayne to the edifying of Christs church this may serue for a cursory exposition of the first fountaine of holy scripture out of which I derived that our Saviour bestowed vpon S. Peter the supreme place of government in his church a fuller confirmation of it shall follow by and by 6 I might add for further proof of the same position out of Saint Iohns Gospell how our blessed Lord severing Saint Peter from the rest of the Apostles and intimating how S. Peter loved him more then anie of them gave to him as head pastor the charge of both his sheepe and lambes that is of all Christians aswell the cleargy as the laity to bee by him instructed ruled and governed as the flock of sheepe is fed and ruled by the shepheard which according to the ancient doctors testimonie doth verie plainly confirme Saint Peters supremacie as you shall heare presently out of their own wordes yet this though it bee most pregnant among the rest I then omitted because the question of the supremacy was not to bee handled there at the full I touched also a third text to prove that the Bishop of Rome as Saint Peters successor should never faile in confirming of his brethren in the true faith taken out of Saint Luke where our Lord saith Simon Simon behold Luca 22. satā hath required to haue you for to sifte as wheate but I haue praied for thee that thy faith faile not and thou once converted confirme thy brethrē wher vpon it followeth that all others ought to repaire to him and his successors for resolution of all controversies in faith to bee confirmed by him and are bound therby to obey him as the person to whom Christ gaue power to confirme his brethren Of the first text of scripture shal bee treated more at large in this section for the others I will onlie note some places of the holy fathers where the reader maie see the very same explication of Christes words and deduction that I make here by their auctoritie approved bicause M. Abbot doth here verie hotly call for such testimonies and seemeth so earnestly sett vpon the sight of them that I must needes giue him out of hand at least the quotations of them in the margent and then small doubt but hee will presently bee satisfied if there bee such honestie in him as hee makes shew of well if it bee no more then for the good readers content I will giue him more then hee demaūdeth that is not only the quotations in the margent but their words also in the text a Origenes in cap. 6. ad Rom. Petro cum summa rerum de pascendis ovibus traderetur super ipsum velut super terram fundaretur ecclesia nullius confessio virtutis alterius ab eo nisi charitas cuigitur To begin Origen saith when the church was founded vpon S. Peter and supreme power of feeding Christs sheepe was com̄itted to him the profession of no other vertue then of charitie was demaunded of him b Cipri de vnitate eccles Petro post resurrectionem dominus dicit pasce oves meas super illum vnum aedificat ecclesiam suam illi pascendas mandat oves suas S. Ciprian Christ after his resurrection said to Peter feede my sheepe and vpon him alone doth build his church In both these sentences are linked two texts of the Euangelists that concerne Saint Peters supremacy c Ambros 10. in Lucam cap. 24. Contristatur quia tertio interrogatur Amas me i● enim interrogatur de quo dubitatur sed dominus non dubitabat qui interrogabat non vt disceret sed vt doceret quem elevandus in caelum amoris sui nobis velut vicarium relinquebat paulo post ideo quia solus profitetur ex omnibus omnibus antefertur ibidem tertio dominus non iam diligis me● sed amas me interrogauit iam non agnos vt primo quodam lacte pascendos nec oviculas vt secundo sed oues pascere iubetur perfectiores vt perfectior gubernaret Saint Ambrose Our lord not to learne himself but to teach vs did aske him whom hee being to ascend into heaven would leave vs as it were the vicar of his loue for so thou hast Simon sonne of Iohn dost thou loue mee c. Peter testified his affection and therfore bicause hee alone made that profes●ion hee is preferred before the rest and a little after he is commaunded to feede the sheepe as well as the lambes that the perfecter sort might be governed by him that was more perfect behold sheepe and lambes to bee governed by Saint Peter d Chrisost homil 1. de penitentia Poenitentia post tantum malum iterum cum ad priorem honorem reuehit ecclesiae primatum gubernationém que ipsi per vniuersum orbem tradidic Chrisost homil 80. in Ioannem Cum magna Christus Petro cōmunicasset ei orbis terrarum curam demandasset c. S. Chrisostome the primacie of the church and the government throughout the whole world is by Christ cōmitted to S. Peter see him also in his last homily vpō S. Iohns Gospell and in his second booke of priesthood whom e Theophil cap. 21. Ioannis Totius orbis onium praefecturam Petro committit non autem alij sed huic tradit Theophi lact vpon the same place doth follow saying Christ granteth to S. Peter and to none els the government of the church through the whole world f Leo sermo 3. de assump De toto mundo vnus Petrus eligitur qui vniuersarum gentium vocationi omnibus Apostolis ●unctisque Ecclesiae patribu● praeponatur vt quamuis in populo dei mul●● sacerdotes sint multiqu● pastores omnes tamen proprie regat Petrus quos principaliter regit Christus S. Leo amonge all the mē of the wo●ld onely Peter is chosen who is placed over the Apostles and fathers of the church and over the vocation of the Gentils And albeit among the peopl● of God there be manie priests and manie Pastors yet Peter doth rule all them properly over whom our Saviour Christ doth rule principally observe the rule over all that appertaine to Christ to be given by Christ to S. Peter g Eucherius Lug in vigilia S. Petri. Dicit ei pasce oves meas prius agnos deinde oues cōmisit ei quia non solum pastorem sed pastorum pastorem eum constituit pascit igitur Petrus agnos pascit oues pascit filios pascit matres regit
Sauiour comparing it to a Rock intimate that it should neuer decay Besides had not the gates of Hell mightely preuayled against the church of Christ if it had ouercome the church of Rome therby ouerthrowne as it were the foundation of it finally August ibid. Vt certa sit spes fidelibus qui faciunt ea quae Romani Pontifices cis facienda praecipiunt quae non in homine sed in Domino quidixit qua dicunt facite collocata nūquam tempestate sacrilegi schismatu dissipetur S. Austin in the same place holdeth him self so well assured of the perpetuall stabilitie of the Bishops of Rome in the true faith that he doubteth not euen frō our sauiours owne mouth to assure all them that cleaue fast vnto it and do beleue and do that which the Bishops of Rome teach them that they shall neuer be carried away into any sacrilegious schisme if they shall never fall into schisme that stik fast vnto the Roman church then without all doubt the Roman faith should neuer after be changed The second text of holie scripture out of which it may be prooued that the Bishop and church of Rome shall neuer erre in matter of faith is this I haue prayed for thee Peter that thy fayth faile not and thou being conuerted confirme thy brethren Our blessed Sauiour by the vertue of his holy and effectuall praier obtained that S. Peters faith should not at any tyme faile that he might be alwaies able to confirme all Christians that staggered in any point of faith And because our soueraign Lord did not establish a church that should endure no longer then S. Peter Liued but would haue it continue for euer in like manner he would haue one sure pillar at the least in the same to vphold all in the true faith that should become members of it at any time after This to haue been S. Peters successor the Bishop of Rome I haue before prooued by the consent of the aunciēt holy fathers I will heere repeate one sentence of S. Ciprian because it seemes to bee grounded vpon these very wordes of our Saviour The Romans faith is such Cip. epist 55. that perfidy or misbeliefe can haue no accesse vnto them which is the very same in effect that S. Peter and the Bishops of Rome his successors faith cannot faile for if misbeliefe could seize or take anie hold vpon their faith it should suerly faile because beliefe and misbeliefe cannot dwell together but the Roman faith being by the efficacie of our Sauiours praier warranted from failing it remaineth most assured that misbeliefe can haue no accesse vnto it which could not bee true if M. Abbots exception might take place that forsooth for three or fower hundreth yeares it should not faile but for a 1000. yeeres after it should mightely bee corrupted which if it were admitted it had been truer to haue said that their faith should faile then that it should not faile because for longer time according to their fantasicit had failed then cōtinued without faile wherfore that their new glose being directlie opposite to our blessed Sauiours owne words which are without anie limitatiō of time is to bee abhorred as that which doth corrupt the text and the old doctors most literall interpretation to bee imbraced vnto S. Ciprian I will here onely ioyne the Zealous and most holie Father S. Bernard who writing vnto Pope Innocentius the third doth take for most certen out of this text of holie scripture that the faith of the Romane Bishops had not failed for a thousand yeares after Christs daies nor should euer afterwardes faile These be his words we must referr vnto your Apostleship the dangers and scandales that arise in the kingdome of God but especiallie those that appertaine to the faith Bernardus epist 190. Oportet ad vestrum referri Apostolatum pericula quaeque scandala emergentia in regno Dei ea praesertim quae de fide contingunt Dignum namque arbitror ibi potissimum resarciri damna fides vbi non possit fides sentire defectum Hac quippe huius praerogatiua sedis Cui enim alteri aliquando dictum est Ego pro te rogaui Petre vt non deficiat fides tua Ergo quod sequitur de Petri successore exigitur tu aliquando conuersus confirma fratres tuos Id quidem modo necessarium est Tempus est vt vestrum agnoscatis principatum probetis Zelum Ministerium honoretis in eo plane Petri impletis vicem cuius tenetis sedem si vestra admonitione corda in fide fluctantia confirmetis si vestra auctoritate cōteritis fidei corruptores for I esteeme it fitt that the defect● of faith should bee there principallie repaired where faith cannot faile which is the prerogatiue of this seate For to what other was it euer said I haue praied for thee Peter that thy faith maie not faile therfore that which followeth is to bee exacted of S. Peters successor And thou once conuerted confirme thy brethren which truly is at this present needfull for it is high time most beloued Father that you acknowledg your principalitie shew your zeale and honor your Ministerie you shall therin rightlie supplie the office of S. Peter in whose seate you sit if you do by our admonition confirme their harts that wauer in the faith and by your authoritie do suppresse the corrupters of the same Cā anie thing be more perspicuous thē that the holie learned religious Abbot S. Bernard whose testimonie the Protestants do often vse did acknowledg that which our Saviour said to S. Peter to belong vnto the Bishops of Rome and that they had and should euer haue by vertue of our said Redeemers praier power and grace to strengthen good Christians in the right faith and to beate downe all enemies of the same If M. Abbot were not an Abbot in name only but had in deed some of that holie Abbots heauenlie light in him he would soone see and confesse the same Albeit those two texts of holie scriptures be more then sufficient to cōfound M. Abbots bare supposition nakedly put downe and verie often repeated without any kind of proofe yet for more complet cōfirmation therof I will cite a third sentence out of S. Paul which rightly vnderstood doth greatly fortifie the same Rom. 16. These be the Apostles words The God of peace crush satan vnder your feet quickly Chris in illum locū Or as it is in the Protestants translation out of the Greeke The God of peace shall bruise Satan vnder your feete shortly These words of the Apostle are as Saint Chrysostom witnesseth both a praier and a prophecie a praier as they stand in our text a prophecy as they are in Greek which Caluin vpon the same text doth graunt the true purport thereof is that God should in short space so bruise and crush Satan in the head and as it were beate him into powder vnder the feate of the
other reuerend Bishops not acquainting you with that matter wheras the iudgment of Bishops and finall determinatiō of their principall causes by the decrees of our fathers doth in honor of blessed S. Peter belong vnto your sea Is not this a most plaine aknowledgment of the Bishop of Romes commanding authoritie ouer the churches of Afrike And because no exception can be iustly taken either against pope Damasus learning and integritie or against his writings whose secretary somtimes was S. Hierome I will set downe his answer vnto the said African Bishop These bee his words Ex Epistola 4. damasi ad eundem Stephanum ad concilia Africae Nos qui supra domum eius hoc est vniuersalem ecclesiam Catholicam Episcopale suscepimus ministerium solicite vigilare de bemus etc scitis fatres dilectissimi firmamentum a deo fixum immobile atque titulum lucidissimum suorum sacerdotum id est omnium episcorum Apostolicam sedem esse constitutam verticem ecclesiarum Tu es enim sicut diuinum pronunciat verbum veraciter Petrus c cuius vice dei gratia hodie fungimur ideo omnia quae innotuistis non licere mandarem nisi vos tam plene instructos scirem quod cuncta super quibus consuluistis illicita esse non dubitetis discutere namque episcopos summas ecclesiasticorum negotiorum causas metrapolitano vna cum comprouincialibus licet sed definire ecclesiasticarum summas querelas causarum vel damnare episcopos absque huius sanctae sedis auctoritate minime licet ad quam omnes appellare si necesse fuerit eius fulcire auxilio oportet It behoveth vs that haue receiued Episcopall charge ouer the house of our lord that is the vniuersall church to watch carfully that nothing which belonges to that function be wanting c. you most beloued brother do know the sea Apostolike constituted of God an vnmoueable fortresse and the head of all churches which he proues by our Saviours words Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke I will build my church averring the Bishops of Rome to be S. Peters successors and Christs vicars and at length saith That it is lawfull for Metropolitans to heare and discuss the causes of Bishops their suffragans but vnlawfull to determin them finallie without the authoritie of the sea of Rome vnto which it was lawfull for all Bishops to appeale when need required and there to find reliefe I come now to some other councells that were held in Africk immediatly before that African in which were present most of the same prelates The councell holden at Mileuitan writeth to Innocentius the first who was pope next before Zozimus to whom succeeded Bonifacius and Celestinus in this manner Bicause our lord of his speciall grace hath placed you in the sea Apostolike and hath afforded you such a one in our times Ex Epist 92. inter ep D. Aug. Quia te Dominus gratiae suae precipuo munere in sede Apostolica collocauit talemque nostris tēporibus praestitit vt nobis potius ad culpam negligentia valeat si apud tuam venerationem quae pro Ecclesia suggerenda sunt tac●erimus quam ea tu pos is vel fastidiose vel negligenter accipere magnis periculis infirmorum membrorum Christi pastoralem diligentiam quaesvmus a●hibere digneris c. Multo plures qui eius sensuo diligentius indagare potuerunt aduersus eū progratia Christi et Catholicae fidei veritate confligūt praecipue sanctus filius tuus frater compresbiter noster Hieronimus Sed arbitramur adiuuante misericordia Domini Dei nostri Iesu Christi qui te regere consulentem orantem exaudire dignatur autoritati sanctitatis tuae de sanctorum scripturarum autoritate de promptae facilius eos qui tam peruersa perniciosa sentiunt esse cessuros that it may be rather imputed to the blame of our negligence if we conceale from your holines those things that are to be referred to the church then that you can either disdainfully or carlesly heare vs. wee therfore beseech you that you will vouchsafe to applie your pastorall diligence vnto the weake members of Christ c. Many others that could trace out the errors of Pelagius haue entred the combat with him in defence of the grace of Christ of the truth of the Catholike faith namely your holie sonne our brother fellow priest Hierome but through the mercies of Christ who will vouchsafe to heare you praying direct you giuing counsell wee bee of opiniō that they will sooner yeeld vnto the authoritie of your holines being deriued from the authoritie of holie scriptures This epistle is recorded amōg S. Austins so is another of that councell held at Carthage about the same time wherin the Bishop of Africa wrote thus to the same pope Holy Lord and brother we haue thought good to relate to you what we haue done Ex epist xc inter D. Aug. epistolas Hoc itaque gestum Domine frater sancte charitati tuae intimandum duximus vt statutis nostra mediocritatis etiam Apostolicae sedis adhibeatur autoritas pro tuenda salute multorum quorundam peruersitate etiam corrigenda that vnto the decrees of our mediocrity may be adioyned the authoritie of the sea Apostolike aswell for the preserving of manie mens saluation as for the correcting of some persons deprauation By both which Epistles we may easily perceiue how the African Bishops esteemed the church of Rome to bee the sea Apostolike to be that head church vnto which the affaires of higher nature are to bee referred That it had pastorall charge ouer the Churches of Africke that it had authority warranted by the word of God for the defining of matter of faith vnto which even heretikes would yeeld sooner then vnto any other though esteemed never so learned And therfore they sent the decrees of their councell vp to Rome to be confirmed by the pope All this being of record in approved African councels holden about the same time and by the same persons that were at that other African councell what reason hath anie man to thinke that therin the Bishop of Rome was forbidden to intermeddle in their affaires of Afrike Ex Epist D. Aug. IOB Missae sunt itaque de hac re ex duobus conciliis Carthaginensi et Mileuitano relationes ad Apostolicam sedem c. scripsimus etiam ad beatae memoria papam Innocentium c. Ad omnia nobis ipse rescripsit eodem modo quofas erat atque oportebat Apostolica sedis Antistitem S. Austin himself relateth both that these two councells to witt of Carthage and of Mileuitane had written vnto pope Innocentius and further doth assure vs that the popes answer to them was sound such as did well beseeme the sea Apostolike I will therfore be bold to acquaint the Reader with the same his answer These be his words You do