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A04482 The true copies of the letters betwene the reuerend father in God Iohn Bisshop of Sarum and D. Cole vpon occasion of a sermon that the said Bishop preached before the Quenes Maiestie, and hir most honorable Counsel. 1560. Set forthe and allowed, according to the order appointed in the Quenes Maiesties iniunctions. Cum gratia & priuilegio RegiƦ Maiestatis per septennium. Jewel, John, 1522-1571.; Cole, Henry, 1500?-1580. aut 1560 (1560) STC 14613; ESTC S107807 107,547 377

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say_v it_o be_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o martionite_n to_o think_v that_o any_o one_o man_n may_v receyve_v the_o sacrament_n for_o a_o other_o &_o therefore_o he_o make_v light_a of_o such_o disorder_n of_o the_o sacrament_n &_o call_v they_o sacramenta_fw-la vicaria_fw-la origene_n say_v ille_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la &_o propitiatio_fw-la &_o hostia_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la agnus_n dei_fw-la qui_fw-la tollit_fw-la peccata_fw-la mundi_fw-la ▪_o quae_fw-la propitiatio_fw-la ad_fw-la unumquemque_fw-la venit_fw-la per_fw-la vian_fw-la fidei_fw-la he_o be_v our_o priest_n say_v origene_n he_o be_v our_o atonement_n he_o be_v our_o sacrifice_n for_o he_o be_v you_o ●_o lamb_n of_o god_n that_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n which_o atonement_n say_v he_o come_v unto_o we_o ●…ot_v by_o the_o