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A06346 A treatie of the churche conteining a true discourse, to knowe the true church by, and to discerne it from the Romish church, and all other false assemblies, or counterfet congregations / vvritten by M. Bertrande de Loque ... ; and faithfully translated out of French into English, by T.VV. Loque, Bertrand de.; T. W. 1581 (1581) STC 16812; ESTC S123131 175,246 422

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condition_n of_o those_o man_n which_o bestow_v their_o life_n yea_o although_o it_o be_v but_o a_o day_n long_o in_o the_o service_n of_o god_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o church_n and_o among_o faithful_a people_n be_v far_o more_o bless_v than_o they_o who_o live_v though_o it_o be_v never_o so_o long_o out_o of_o god_n house_n and_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o those_o out_o of_o who_o company_n their_o religion_n be_v banish_v to_o which_o purpose_n also_o belong_v that_o 27.4_o psalm_n 27.4_o which_o the_o same_o prophet_n sing_v a_o other_o psalm_n one_o thing_n have_v i_o desire_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o i_o will_v require_v even_o that_o i_o may_v dwell_v in_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n all_o the_o day_n of_o my_o life_n to_o behold_v the_o beauty_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o visit_v his_o temple_n 106.45_o psal_n 106.45_o and_o again_o when_o he_o say_v remember_v or_o have_v mercy_n on_o i_o o_o lord_n with_o the_o favour_n and_o good_a will_n of_o the_o people_n and_o visit_v i_o with_o thy_o salvation_n that_o i_o may_v see_v the_o good_a thing_n of_o thy_o choose_a once_o &_o rejoice_v in_o the_o joy_n of_o thy_o people_n and_o glory_n with_o thy_o inheritance_n and_o for_o this_o very_a cause_n and_o occasion_n 11.24.25_o heb._n 11.24.25_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n commend_v and_o praise_v moses_n when_o he_o say_v that_o by_o faith_n he_o be_v come_v to_o age_n refuse_v to_o be_v call_v the_o son_n of_o pharaoh_n his_o daughter_n choose_v rather_o to_o suffer_v adversity_n with_o the_o people_n of_o god_n then_o to_o enjoy_v the_o pleasure_n of_o sin_n for_o a_o short_a season_n wherefore_o if_o we_o will_v that_o god_n shall_v govern_v we_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n to_o the_o end_n to_o make_v we_o enjoy_v and_o possess_v
the_o corruption_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o verse_n 21._o to_o the_o 24._o verse_n isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 3._o for_o 8.9_o isaiah_n 5.13_o isaiah_n 30._o ver_fw-la 9_o to_o the_o 13._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n 59_o for_o 2._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la isai_n 64._o ver_fw-la 6.7_o jere._n 2._o ver_fw-la 5._o jeremiah_n jeremiah_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chap._n jere._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2.3.20_o jere._n 4._o ver_fw-la 22._o jeremiah_n 5._o for_o 1._o unto_o the_o 15._o ver_fw-la and_o afterward_o from_o the_o 19_o ver_fw-la to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n jere._n 6._o ver_fw-la 7._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 8._o for_o 4._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 9_o for_o 3._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 13._o for_o 10._o unto_o the_o 15._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 22._o even_o unto_o the_o end_n jeremiah_n 16._o for_o 11.12_o jeremiah_n 18_o ver_fw-la 13._o unto_o the_o 18._o ver_fw-la ezechiel_n 5._o for_o 6._o unto_o the_o 12._o ezechiel_n ezechiel_n ver_fw-la 22._o ver_fw-la 3._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n ezechiel_n 33._o for_o 24._o unto_o the_o 30._o deuteron_n deuteron_n ver_fw-la deuteronomie_n 32._o for_o 5.6.32.33_o touch_v the_o ingratitude_n and_o unthankfulness_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 2.5_o isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 5._o for_o 47._o isaiah_n 43._o for_o 21._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n isaiah_n 17._o for_o 10.11_o isaiah_n 63._o for_o 9.10_o jeremiah_n 2._o for_o 6.9.21.22_o jeremiah_n jeremiah_n jeremiah_n 12._o for_o 7._o ezechiel_n 16._o for_o 15._o ezechiel_n ezechiel_n unto_o the_o 24._o ver_fw-la zechariah_n 11._o for_o 8._o zechariah_n zechariah_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n deuteronomie_n 32._o deuteron_n deuteron_n for_o 15.18.23_o hosea_n 12._o for_o 1.9_o hosea_n 13._o hosea_n hosea_n for_o 6._o malachi_n 1._o for_o 2.8_o touch_v the_o obstinacy_n and_o rebellion_n of_o the_o church_n isaiah_n isaiah_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 5._o unto_o the_o 7._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n 6._o for_o 9.10_o isaiah_n 8._o for_o 10.11.13.16_o isaiah_n 26._o for_o 10.11_o isaiah_n 28._o for_o 9.12.13_o isaiah_n 30._o for_o 9.15_o isaiah_n 42._o for_o 19.20_o isaiah_n 48._o for_o 4._o isaiah_n 65._o for_o 11._o jeremiah_n 2._o jeremiah_n jeremiah_n for_o 24.29_o unto_o the_o 33._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 5._o ve_fw-la 3._o unto_o the_o 8._o ver_fw-la and_o ver_fw-la 20._o of_o the_o same_o chap._n unto_o ver_fw-la 25._o jeremiah_n 6._o for_o 10._o in_o every_o verse_n almost_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n jeremiah_n 7._o for_o 24._o unto_o the_o 28._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 8._o for_o 4._o unto_o ver_fw-la 8._o jeremiah_n 17._o for_o 1.23_o jeremiah_n 10._o for_o 11.15_o jeremiah_n 25._o for_o 4.8_o jeremiah_n 29._o for_o 17.20_o jeremiah_n 35._o for_o 13.16_o jeremiah_n 43._o for_o 2._o jeremiah_n 44._o for_o 7.10.11.16.20_o ezechiel_n 2._o ezechiel_n ezechiel_n for_o 3._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n ezechiel_n 3._o for_o 5.10.26.27_o ezechiel_n 4._o for_o 3._o hosea_n hosea_n ezechiel_n 12._o for_o 2._o hosea_n 4_o throughout_o the_o whole_a chapter_n hosea_n 5._o for_o 4._o amos_n 4._o amos._n amos._n for_o 6._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n zephaniah_n 3._o proverb_n zephaniah_n zechariah_n proverb_n for_o 5._o zechariah_n 7._o for_o 11._o unto_o the_o end_n proverb_n 1._o ve_fw-la 24._o unto_o the_o end_n matth._n 11._o matthew_n matthew_n ver_fw-la 16.17.21_o and_o so_o unto_o the_o 25._o ver_fw-la matth._n 12._o ver_fw-la 41.42_o matth._n 23._o ver_fw-la 37._o touch_v the_o pastor_n special_o and_o particular_o see_v isaiah_n 56._o for_o 10.11_o jeremiah_n 6._o for_o 13._o jeremiah_n 14._o for_o 14._o jeremiah_n 23._o for_o 1.2_o etc._n etc._n ezechiel_n 22._o for_o 25.26.28_o ezechiel_n 34._o for_o 23.4_o etc._n etc._n hosea_n 9_o for_o 8._o 1._o king_n 22._o ver_fw-la 6._o john_n 7._o for_o 47._o chap._n xiii_o whether_o the_o church_n be_v above_o the_o holy_a 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authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o four_o reason_n 14._o aug._n count_n max._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 14._o s._n saint_n augustine_n open_o declare_v that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v above_o the_o counsel_n and_o so_o by_o consequent_a above_o the_o church_n represent_v by_o counsel_n for_o write_v to_o maximinus_n the_o arrian_n touch_v the_o word_n homousios_n that_o be_v to_o say_v consubstantial_a or_o of_o the_o self_n same_o substance_n together_o with_o the_o father_n which_o word_n be_v confirm_v by_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n disallow_v by_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o emperor_n constantine_n he_o say_v thus_o now_o i_o have_v not_o to_o use_v or_o allege_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a neither_o thou_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n to_o prevail_v thereby_o one_o of_o we_o against_o a_o other_o for_o as_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n so_o be_v not_o thou_o bind_v to_o the_o 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speak_v in_o the_o fifty_o psalm_n 50.16.17_o psal_n 50.16.17_o who_o give_v themselves_o to_o all_o iniquity_n &_o hate_v correction_n and_o discipline_n or_o to_o be_v reform_v be_v reprove_v for_o this_o that_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o speak_v of_o &_o rehearse_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n &_o to_o take_v his_o covenant_n and_o word_n in_o their_o mouth_n the_o second_o head_n or_o point_n be_v office_n the_o discipline_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o set_v a_o foot_n into_o the_o magistrate_n office_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a or_o church_n discipline_n incroch_v not_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o upon_o the_o magistrate_n charge_v and_o office_n for_o first_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o civil_a iurisdicton_n or_o government_n differ_v great_o one_o of_o they_o from_o a_o other_o because_o that_o the_o one_o be_v spiritual_a and_o reach_v to_o the_o inward_a man_n and_o the_o other_o be_v bodily_a and_o outward_a therefore_o 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any_o steed_n at_o all_o to_o say_v that_o any_o this_o place_n of_o augustine_n ought_v to_o be_v understod_a of_o outward_a and_o indifferent_a thing_n for_o saint_n augustine_n dispute_v there_o of_o a_o point_n of_o doctrine_n that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o opinion_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n &_o of_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n touch_v rebaptisation_n or_o baptise_v again_o now_o then_o in_o so_o great_a diversity_n &_o gainsay_v one_o of_o a_o other_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v to_o which_o council_n shall_v we_o give_v great_a faith_n and_o credit_n for_o this_o we_o perceive_v clear_o and_o plain_o that_o they_o thus_o cross_v and_o contrary_v one_o a_o other_o do_v not_o all_o consent_n and_o speak_v according_a to_o the_o truth_n &_o that_o therefore_o we_o must_v of_o necessity_n conclude_v that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v err_v and_o that_o by_o their_o false_a and_o erroneous_a determination_n they_o have_v degenerate_v and_o go_v astray_o from_o the_o right_a way_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n certain_o it_o be_v very_o meet_a and_o requisite_a synod_n a_o admonition_n touch_v counsel_n and_o synod_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v wise_a and_o very_a well_o advise_v when_o the_o question_n be_v either_o to_o set_v out_o or_o to_o receive_v that_o which_o shall_v be_v determine_v by_o counsel_n and_o synod_n for_o it_o be_v altogether_o manifest_a and_o plain_a that_o counsel_n and_o synod_n may_v be_v deceive_v and_o therefore_o as_o touch_v their_o decree_n and_o determination_n this_o be_v that_o we_o have_v to_o say_v that_o we_o must_v bring_v the_o weight_n of_o they_o and_o make_v it_o subject_v to_o the_o balance_n that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o must_v try_v and_o examine_v they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o balance_n 1.8_o gala._n 1.8_o whereunto_o not_o only_a man_n be_v subject_a but_o also_o the_o angel_n as_o saint_n paul_n teach_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o galathian_o wherefore_o whatsoever_o we_o shall_v find_v 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