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small_a reason_n in_o that_o want_n of_o sufficient_a minister_n to_o make_v they_o lay_v either_o elder_n or_o deacon_n so_o that_o oecumenius_n his_o word_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v translate_v it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v the_o dignity_n of_o bishop_n for_o that_o they_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n not_o only_o deacon_n but_o also_o presbyter_n note_v also_o say_v he_o that_o in_o miletum_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d barnabas_n and_o paul_n be_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n ordain_v but_o i_o find_v another_o copy_n which_o for_o miletum_n have_v antioch_n mâ—letum_n and_o that_o be_v more_o probable_a his_o meaning_n be_v that_o at_o antioch_n paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v ordain_v bishop_n act._n 13.2_o and_o that_o oecumenius_n by_o presbyter_n understand_v minister_n or_o teacher_n it_o be_v apparent_a by_o his_o word_n go_v before_o for_o demand_v why_o the_o apostle_n make_v not_o presbyter_n in_o cyprus_n and_o samaria_n but_o in_o these_o place_n mention_v act._n 14._o he_o answer_v those_o be_v near_o to_o jerusalem_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o in_o antioch_n the_o word_n prevail_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o in_o these_o place_n they_o need_v much_o exhortation_n chief_o those_o of_o the_o gentile_n need_v much_o teach_n the_o three_o testimony_n 5.14_o jam._n 5.14_o be_v any_o man_n sick_a among_o you_o let_v he_o call_v for_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o let_v they_o pray_v over_o he_o anoint_v he_o with_o oil_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n therefore_o there_o be_v lay-elder_n in_o s._n james_n time_n this_o consequence_n be_v prove_v because_o calvin_n and_o four_o other_o new_a writer_n say_v so_o the_o four_o 12._o rom._n 12.8_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o rule_v in_o diligence_n this_o ruler_n must_v needs_o be_v the_o lay-elder_n for_o beside_o certain_a new_a writer_n ambrose_n say_v so_o but_o ambrose_n understand_v the_o word_n general_o of_o any_o ruler_n expound_v he_o that_o rule_v to_o be_v eum_fw-la qui_fw-la curam_fw-la ut_fw-la praesit_fw-la fratribus_fw-la suscipit_fw-la he_o that_o undertake_v the_o care_n to_o rule_v his_o brethren_n the_o five_o 1._o cor._n 12.28_o 12.28_o god_n have_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d governement_n these_o governement_n must_v needs_o be_v of_o lay-elder_n for_o beside_o some_o new_a writer_n ambrose_n jerome_n theodoret_n do_v testify_v so_o much_o ambrose_n his_o word_n be_v these_o 12.28_o sunt_fw-la &_o gubernatores_fw-la gui_fw-la spiritualib_a retinaculis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la documento_fw-la sunt_fw-la there_o be_v also_o governor_n who_o with_o spiritual_a reins_n do_v nurture_n man_n jerome_n qui_fw-la sciunt_fw-la singulos_fw-la prout_fw-la apti_fw-la sunt_fw-la gubernare_fw-la who_o know_v to_o govern_v every_o one_o according_a as_o they_o be_v apt_a theodoret_n hereby_o he_o signify_v the_o administration_n or_o governement_n of_o the_o church_n these_o be_v all_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o this_o great_a striker_n 4._o dare_v make_v show_n of_o allegation_n whereof_o not_o any_o one_o can_v be_v say_v with_o any_o show_n of_o probability_n to_o speak_v one_o word_n for_o lay-elder_n if_o lay-elder_n be_v first_o prove_v by_o other_o argument_n or_o presuppose_a the_o best_a argument_n that_o can_v out_o of_o these_o place_n be_v raise_v be_v from_o the_o genus_fw-la to_o the_o species_n affirmative_a as_o if_o they_o shall_v say_v the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o governor_n therefore_o of_o lay-elder_n of_o presbyter_n therefore_o of_o only_o govern_v presbyter_n but_o see_v they_o never_o be_v nor_o ever_o will_v be_v prove_v by_o other_o argument_n the_o reason_n take_v from_o these_o place_n be_v from_o the_o genus_fw-la to_o a_o fancy_a and_o platonical_a idea_n or_o poetical_a species_n and_o that_o affirmatiuè_fw-fr if_o i_o shall_v say_v it_o be_v a_o bird_n therefore_o a_o swan_n it_o
of_o my_o exposition_n there_o be_v two_o part_n the_o one_o concern_v the_o subject_n or_o party_n here_o mention_v who_o i_o expound_v to_o be_v minister_n only_o the_o other_o concern_v their_o duty_n in_o regard_n whereof_o double_a honour_n be_v due_a to_o they_o the_o one_o general_n the_o other_o special_a in_o both_o respect_n the_o one_o text_n do_v answer_v the_o other_o as_o face_n answer_v to_o face_n in_o the_o water_n for_o first_o that_o presbyter_n here_o be_v minister_n only_o i_o prove_v thus_o the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v act._n 20._o be_v minister_n only_o the_o presbyter_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o be_v the_o same_o to_o who_o he_o speak_v act._n 20._o therefore_o the_o presbyter_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o be_v minister_n only_o second_o that_o the_o duty_n both_o general_a and_o special_a be_v peculiar_a to_o minister_n i_o prove_v by_o this_o argument_n the_o duty_n which_o paul_n require_v act._n 20.28_o be_v duty_n require_v peculiar_o of_o minister_n the_o duty_n for_o which_o double_a honour_n be_v due_a 1._o tim._n 5.17_o both_o general_a and_o special_a be_v the_o same_o with_o those_o which_o paul_n require_v act._n 20.28_o therefore_o the_o duty_n for_o which_o double_a honour_n be_v due_a 1._o tim._n 5_o 17._o be_v duty_n peculiar_o require_v of_o minister_n this_o latter_a syllogism_n my_o expert_a adversary_n observe_v not_o the_o former_a he_o flinge_v after_o his_o manner_n into_o a_o connexive_a syllogism_n for_o though_o his_o forge_n do_v scarce_o afford_v any_o other_o yet_o he_o have_v get_v a_o pretty_a smack_n of_o syllogize_v that_o way_n be_v it_o not_o that_o his_o syllogism_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v too_o long_o by_o the_o half_a but_o here_o he_o surpass_v himself_o for_o he_o have_v cast_v my_o whole_a syllogism_n into_o his_o connexive_a proposition_n and_o in_o his_o minor_fw-la repeat_v at_o large_a both_o the_o proposition_n and_o assumption_n but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o say_v to_o these_o syllogism_n in_o the_o first_o he_o only_o deny_v my_o proposition_n viz._n that_o the_o presbyter_n act._n 20._o be_v none_o but_o minister_n which_o i_o must_v confess_v in_o that_o brevity_n i_o take_v for_o grant_v because_o i_o think_v it_o need_v not_o to_o be_v prove_v for_o see_v that_o verse_n be_v not_o only_o general_o understand_v even_o of_o they_o which_o stand_v for_o lay_v elder_n write_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o but_o comment_v upon_o or_o otherwise_o expound_v that_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o also_o be_v allege_v both_o by_o protestant_n and_o papist_n to_o justify_v the_o call_n of_o bb._n i_o do_v presume_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o only_a as_o be_v minister_n at_o the_o least_o but_o that_o which_o before_o be_v for_o brevity_n omit_v shall_v now_o be_v supply_v first_o therefore_o i_o argue_v thus_o all_o those_o that_o be_v call_v bb._n in_o the_o act_n and_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n all_o the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v act._n 20.28_o be_v call_v bb._n therefore_o all_o the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v act._n 20.28_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n or_o thus_o lay-elder_n be_v no_o where_o call_v bb._n all_o the_o presbyter_n act._n 20.28_o be_v call_v bishop_n therefore_o none_o of_o those_o presbyter_n be_v lay-elder_n shall_v i_o need_v to_o prove_v any_o of_o the_o premise_n be_v our_o presbyterian_o of_o late_a grow_v so_o absurd_a as_o to_o deny_v they_o what_o be_v not_o all_o bb._n minister_n and_o be_v your_o lay-elder_n grow_v of_o late_a to_o be_v bishop_n do_v not_o our_o refuter_fw-la pag_n â—_o affirm_v that_o these_o presbyter_n act._n 20._o be_v angel_n and_o bishop_n and_o that_o angel_n be_v pastor_n and_o be_v lay-elder_n angel_n and_o pastor_n too_o â—ie_v for_o shame_n and_o yet_o so_o absurd_a be_v our_o refuter_fw-la as_o to_o say_v that_o some_o of_o these_o elder_n who_o paul_n call_v bishop_n be_v not_o minister_n but_o their_o lay_n or_o onely-governing_a elder_n 11._o but_o if_o either_o reason_n or_o authority_n will_v prevail_v with_o he_o he_o may_v easy_o be_v confute_v my_o reason_n i_o frame_v thus_o all_o episcopi_fw-la or_o bishop_n must_v by_o the_o apostle_n rule_v which_o be_v general_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d able_a to_o teach_v 1._o tim._n 3.2_o that_o be_v as_o he_o expound_v himself_o tit._n 1.9_o hold_v fast_o the_o faithful_a word_n according_a to_o doctrine_n that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o exhort_v with_o wholesome_a doctrine_n and_o convince_v the_o gainsayers_a but_o not_o lay-elder_n nor_o any_o but_o minister_n do_v need_n by_o the_o apostle_n rule_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d able_a to_o preach_v in_o that_o sense_n that_o he_o expound_v it_o tit._n 1.9_o for_o on_o those_o word_n calvin_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v require_v in_o they_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v learn_v and_o endue_v with_o sound_a knowledge_n and_o that_o their_o doctrine_n shall_v tend_v to_o edification_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o not_o lay-elder_n nor_o any_o but_o minister_n be_v bishop_n as_o for_o authority_n let_v he_o show_v i_o any_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n or_o of_o any_o sound_a writer_n old_a or_o new_a that_o be_v not_o a_o party_n use_v the_o word_n bishop_n for_o lay-elder_n or_o any_o one_o that_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n 8._o and_o i_o will_v yield_v to_o he_o the_o buckler_n calvin_n though_o a_o party_n plain_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n use_v promiscuous_o these_o word_n bishop_n presbyter_n pastor_n &_o minister_n to_o signify_v those_o who_o do_v exercise_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o have_v entreat_v of_o they_o in_o conclusion_n he_o say_v that_o as_o yet_o he_o have_v not_o speak_v of_o any_o other_o function_n but_o such_o as_o consist_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o in_o another_o place_n although_o he_o collâ—teth_v out_o of_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o two_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n 1.5_o yet_o he_o say_v that_o the_o presbyter_n mention_v tit._n 1.5_o be_v by_o the_o context_n manifest_v to_o be_v no_o other_o but_o doctor_n or_o teacher_n because_o paul_n present_o after_o call_v they_o bishop_n 101._o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la and_o of_o the_o defence_n thereof_o ingenuous_o confess_v that_o only_a pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v bishop_n and_o that_o roll_a elder_n be_v not_o comprehend_v under_o the_o name_n bishop_n and_o so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o comprehend_v they_o under_o the_o title_n of_o bishop_n that_o although_o he_o be_v resolve_v to_o find_v a_o room_n for_o they_o 1._o tim._n 3._o yet_o he_o dare_v not_o comprise_v they_o under_o the_o title_n and_o description_n of_o a_o bishop_n though_o the_o bishop_n be_v all_o one_o with_o presbyter_n tit._n 1.5.7_o but_o shrowd_v they_o under_o the_o title_n and_o description_n of_o deacon_n as_o hereafter_o we_o shall_v show_v again_o all_o pastor_n of_o christ_n flock_n be_v minister_n only_o all_o the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n be_v pastor_n of_o christ_n flock_n therefore_o they_o be_v minister_n only_o or_o thus_o lay-elder_n be_v not_o pastor_n of_o christ_n flock_n of_o other_o flock_n perhaps_o they_o may_v all_o the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n be_v pastor_n of_o christ_n flock_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o lay-elder_n that_o they_o be_v pastor_n i_o prove_v thus_o bishop_n set_v over_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o feed_v the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v pastor_n the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n be_v such_o act._n 20.28_o therefore_o they_o be_v pastor_n 2_o and_o that_o calvin_n confess_v more_o than_o once_o and_o our_o refuter_fw-la also_o in_o the_o place_n before_o allege_v from_o who_o confession_n i_o argue_v thus_o the_o angel_n be_v pastor_n say_v our_o refuter_fw-la the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n be_v angel_n therefore_o the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n be_v pastor_n but_o why_o shall_v so_o plain_v a_o thing_n seem_v to_o be_v make_v doubtful_a with_o long_a proof_n for_o if_o such_o presbyter_n as_o be_v also_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n be_v any_o but_o minister_n then_o presbyter_n bishop_n and_o pastor_n be_v lay-elder_n also_o and_o lay-elder_n be_v all_o in_o all_o and_o whereas_o he_o object_v that_o lay-elder_n may_v be_v comprehend_v under_o the_o name_n presbyter_n and_o episcopus_fw-la because_o d._n b._n say_v that_o these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bishop_n presbyter_n deacon_n or_o minister_n be_v oft_o so_o large_o take_v as_o that_o they_o comprise_v all_o ecclesiastical_a function_n i_o answer_v in_o a_o word_n by_o ecclesiastical_a function_n he_o mean_v only_o the_o function_n of_o the_o ministry_n include_v neither_o your_o lay-elder_n nor_o
the_o better_a gift_n chief_o to_o follow_v after_o love_n and_o to_o covet_v after_o spiritual_a gift_n but_o among_o they_o to_o desire_v rather_o to_o prophesy_v that_o be_v to_o preach_v then_o to_o speak_v with_o tongue_n and_o whereas_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v martial_a in_o order_n the_o gift_n of_o god_n according_a to_o their_o worthiness_n say_v first_o second_o three_o if_o by_o help_n he_o shall_v mean_v deacon_n and_o by_o government_n elder_n then_o must_v we_o hold_v deacon_n to_o be_v prefer_v before_o elder_n which_o will_v not_o be_v grant_v if_o any_o man_n doubt_v whether_o help_v and_o government_n be_v to_o be_v account_v gift_n chrysostome_n may_v resolve_v he_o who_o as_o of_o the_o former_a he_o say_v that_o be_v in_o especial_a manner_n the_o gift_n of_o god_n so_o also_o of_o the_o latter_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v fit_n to_o govern_v and_o to_o administer_v spiritual_a thing_n and_o he_o add_v that_o our_o duty_n be_v call_v god_n gift_n to_o teach_v we_o that_o our_o ability_n in_o performance_n of_o our_o duty_n be_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n so_o oecumenius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o also_o he_o call_v a_o gift_n though_o it_o require_v our_o labour_n also_o and_o industry_n nazianzen_n also_o reckon_v they_o among_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o spirit_n 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o spirit_n say_v he_o be_v one_o but_o the_o grace_n be_v not_o equal_a nor_o yet_o the_o receptacle_n of_o the_o spirit_n for_o to_o one_o by_o the_o spirit_n be_v give_v the_o word_n of_o wisdom_n and_o contemplation_n to_o another_o the_o word_n of_o knowledge_n or_o revelation_n 〈◊〉_d to_o another_o firm_a &_o undoubted_a faith_n to_o another_o the_o inoperation_n of_o power_n &_o high_a wonder_n to_o another_o the_o gift_n of_o heal_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d help_n that_o be_v presidency_n or_o patronage_n governement_n that_o be_v poedagogy_n of_o the_o flesh_n kind_n of_o tongue_n interpretation_n of_o tongue_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a 12._o that_o some_o before_o our_o time_n have_v understand_v diverse_a of_o these_o member_n to_o have_v be_v ecclesiastical_a function_n but_o yet_o their_o exposition_n whole_o agree_v with_o the_o government_n of_o our_o church_n not_o with_o the_o pretend_a discipline_n for_o by_o apostle_n they_o understand_v not_o only_o the_o 12._o apostle_n but_o their_o successor_n also_o in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o bishops_z and_o by_o help_n they_o understand_v they_o who_o help_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o dean_n and_o archdeacon_n and_o by_o governement_n the_o governor_n or_o rector_n of_o several_a parish_n these_o with_o 1._o tim_n 5.17_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o usual_o be_v allege_v by_o the_o patron_n of_o the_o presbytery_n not_o one_o of_o they_o almost_o either_o omit_v any_o of_o they_o or_o add_v any_o other_o 5â—_n so_o that_o this_o disputer_n may_v true_o 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the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o not_o only_a irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n have_v avouch_v so_o much_o but_o diverse_a other_o of_o the_o father_n as_o cyprian_n jerome_n and_o augustine_n cyprian_n 9_o say_v praepositi_fw-la that_o be_v bishop_n apostolis_n vicaria_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la succedunt_fw-la succeed_v the_o apostle_n as_o be_v ordain_v in_o their_o steed_n and_o jerome_n euagr._fw-la say_v omnes_fw-la episcopi_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la successores_fw-la sunt_fw-la all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o again_o he_o say_v monta._n episcopâ—s_v apostolis_n succedere_fw-la and_o theodoret_n 18._o call_v the_o government_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o likewise_o basill_n ambros._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presidency_n of_o apostle_n who_o have_v deliver_v to_o bishop_n as_o irenaeus_n 3._o say_v their_o own_o place_n of_o government_n in_o the_o several_a church_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o both_o jerome_n 44._o and_o augustine_n expound_v those_o word_n of_o the_o 45._o psalm_n pro_fw-la patribus_fw-la nati_fw-la tibi_fw-la sunt_fw-la filii_fw-la have_v deliver_v that_o instead_o of_o the_o apostle_n bishop_n be_v ordain_v governor_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n which_o point_n be_v due_o to_o be_v consider_v for_o hereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o bishop_n have_v receive_v and_o derive_v their_o authority_n from_o the_o apostle_n who_o successor_n they_o be_v not_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o doctrine_n as_o all_o other_o true_a minister_n but_o also_o in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o several_a church_n and_o when_o the_o disciplinarian_o can_v show_v the_o like_a warrant_n for_o their_o presbyterye_n especial_o of_o lay-elder_n or_o our_o refuter_fw-la and_o his_o good_a friend_n the_o brownist_n for_o the_o chief_a authority_n of_o the_o people_n we_o will_v harken_v to_o they_o once_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o christ_n commit_v the_o authority_n and_o government_n of_o his_o church_n to_o his_o apostle_n who_o be_v to_o derive_v the_o same_o to_o other_o wherefore_o who_o have_v any_o ordinary_a right_n they_o have_v receive_v the_o same_o from_o the_o apostle_n so_o timothy_n and_o titus_n receive_v their_o authority_n from_o paul_n linus_n from_o peter_n and_o paul_n policarpus_fw-la from_o john_n etc._n etc._n and_o all_o other_o the_o first_o bishop_n from_o the_o apostle_n from_o who_o by_o a_o perpetual_a succession_n it_o have_v be_v derive_v to_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v at_o this_o day_n but_o where_o be_v any_o evidence_n of_o the_o like_a derivation_n from_o the_o apostle_n of_o authority_n to_o the_o people_n of_o lay-elder_n i_o know_v not_o thus_o have_v i_o make_v good_a my_o former_a proof_n that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o v._o chapter_n answer_v the_o allegation_n out_o of_o jerome_n serm._n sect._n 11._o pag._n 87._o against_o all_o this_o that_o have_v be_v say_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o authority_n of_o jerome_n be_v object_v etc._n etc._n to_o page_n 89._o against_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n say_v the_o refuter_fw-la what_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v object_v than_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o a_o man_n as_o of_o set_a purpose_n dispute_v the_o question_n determine_v the_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v so_o common_o anouch_v which_o speech_n if_o it_o be_v due_o examine_v just_a exception_n may_v be_v take_v against_o every_o branch_n thereof_o for_o first_o he_o will_v insinuate_v that_o nothing_o have_v be_v bring_v to_o justify_v the_o call_n of_o bishop_n beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n when_o beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n i_o have_v bring_v good_a evidence_n of_o sound_a reason_n and_o beside_o that_o better_a proof_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o warrant_v the_o episcopal_a function_n than_o ever_o be_v or_o will_v be_v bring_v for_o the_o presbyterian_a discipline_n again_o it_o be_v fit_a and_o to_o better_a purpose_n against_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n if_o i_o have_v produce_v no_o other_o proof_n to_o have_v bring_v either_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n or_o sound_a reason_n or_o for_o want_v of_o they_o the_o testimony_n of_o so_o many_o and_o so_o approve_a author_n to_o counterpoise_v the_o weight_n of_o their_o authority_n who_o have_v be_v allege_v on_o the_o contrary_a part_n but_o scripture_n fail_v reason_n want_v testimony_n of_o other_o father_n be_v to_o seek_v jerome_n alone_o must_v be_v fain_o to_o bear_v the_o whole_a burden_n of_o this_o cause_n for_o though_o some_o latter_a writer_n may_v be_v allege_v to_o the_o like_a purpose_n yet_o all_o be_v but_o jerome_n who_o not_o only_o judgement_n they_o follow_v but_o retain_v his_o word_n neither_o do_v jerome_n so_o oft_o dispute_v this_o question_n or_o determine_v the_o contrary_a as_o the_o refuter_fw-la in_o his_o shallow_a conceit_n imagine_v or_o if_o any_o where_o he_o do_v determine_v the_o contrary_a against_o that_o which_o be_v common_o avouch_v both_o by_o himself_o and_o other_o his_o determination_n deliver_v in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v of_o so_o great_a weight_n as_o what_o he_o have_v deliver_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o heat_n of_o contention_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dogmatical_o or_o historical_o for_o jerome_n be_v but_o a_o presbyter_n and_o there_o be_v two_o thing_n in_o his_o time_n which_o may_v provoke_v he_o by_o way_n of_o contention_n to_o say_v more_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o his_o degree_n then_o do_v exact_o agree_v with_o the_o truth_n the_o one_o be_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o those_o time_n do_v too_o much_o depress_v the_o presbyter_n for_o they_o may_v not_o only_o in_o their_o presence_n not_o preach_v nor_o baptize_v nor_o administer_v the_o communion_n but_o also_o in_o some_o 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of_o any_o presbyter_n