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dial_n s._n cyril_n catech_n 15._o s._n hilar._n can_v 25._o in_o matth._n s._n ambros_n l._n 10._o in_o luc._n in_o cap._n 21._o s._n chrysost_o s._n august_n s._n cyril_n alex._n in_o cap._n 5._o joan._n s._n gregor_n lib._n 31._o moral_n cap._n 10._o s._n damascen_n lib._n 4._o c._n 28._o and_o reason_n also_o persuade_v the_o same_o for_o without_o doubt_n antichrist_n shall_v first_o join_v himself_o to_o those_o who_o be_v ready_a to_o receive_v he_o but_o the_o jew_n be_v of_o this_o sort_n who_o expect_v their_o messiah_n a_o temporal_a king_n as_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v but_o the_o christian_n expect_v indeed_o antichrist_n but_o with_o fear_n and_o terror_n not_o with_o joy_n and_o desire_v wherefore_o as_o christ_n come_v first_o to_o the_o jew_n to_o who_o he_o be_v promise_v and_o of_o who_o he_o be_v expect_v and_o afterward_o draw_v the_o gentill_n also_o unto_o he_o so_o also_o antichrist_n shall_v come_v first_o to_o the_o jew_n of_o who_o he_o be_v expect_v and_o 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dan._n say_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v bear_v of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o s._n martin_n apud_fw-la sulpit._fw-la l._n 2._o dial_n that_o antichrist_n shall_v command_v that_o all_o be_v circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o s._n ciryl_n who_o cateche_n 15._o affirm_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v very_o careful_a of_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n that_o he_o may_v show_v himself_o to_o be_v of_o the_o progeny_n of_o david_n final_o s._n gregory_n who_o lib._n 11._o ep_n 3._o say_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v a_o reverencer_n of_o the_o saboth_n and_o other_o jewish_a ceremony_n hence_o we_o have_v a_o most_o evident_a demonstration_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o antichrist_n for_o from_o the_o year_n 606._o in_o which_o our_o adversary_n say_v that_o antichrist_n come_v it_o be_v manifest_a
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