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A12923 The triall of the supremacy wherein is set fourth ye unitie of christes church milita[n]t geue[n] to S. Peter and his successoures by Christe and that there ought to be one head bishop in earth Christes vicar generall ouer all hys churche militant: wyth answeres to the blasphemous obiections made agaynste the same in the late miserable yeres now paste. Standish, John, 1507?-1570. 1556 (1556) STC 23211; ESTC S100970 78,260 315

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herte he declared still in his owne person al subiection The .lvii. obiection In scriptures ther is no menciō made of Peters supremaci The answere Not as heretikes wraste the scriptures but there is mention ofte many times in scripture of Peters supremacye as christē people take y e scriptures As it is both in y e probaciōs also in sundrye responsions in this boke ¶ The .lviii. obiection In diuerse consideracions a man may be head and chiefe yet ī other relatiōs or respectes inferiour subiect y e chiefe tayler y e chiefe paynter the chiefe phisicion or surgē here in London within y e parishes wher eueri of them doth dwel are but takē as neyghbourlike may chaūce as much inferiours w tout a●●i such preeminēce which they haue amōg their owne cōpanies in their owne halles so Peter chiefe first in placing chiefe in cōstācye stedfastnes of minde chiefe in feruētnes of deuociō chiefe in preaching godlines but not chiefe or first in preeminēce here in y e world to be aboue princes c. ¶ The answere Peter in y t respect or cōsideraciō y t he is christes vicar chief heade vndernethe him here in earth so is he heade ouer all y e be of the same occupatiō y t he is of bicause the similitude depēdeth sōwhat vpō craftes or occupatiōs that is to say of christes religiō He is chefe ouer al y ● professe christ whether he be tayler paynter phisiciō or surgen yea whether he be king or emperor not y ● Peter doth chalenge any seperiortye ouer an emperor or kīg bicause he is emperor or kīg or ouer a phisiciō or paynter bicause he is phisicion or paynter but in respect in consideracion al they be christē mē so are they al vnder Peter like as y e head phisician the head tayler the head paynter head surgē as it is ī thobiectiō will euer require and that by right all that be of the same crafte science or occupation to be vnder thē that w tout any respect or cōsideraciō to riches or pouerty to wysedome or ignorance ¶ The .lix. obiectiō Oh howe many scriptures haue bene w tin these .xxii. yeares brought cited against the popes authority The answer Euer whē ye heare any scripture alleged sayth Origē vpō Mathue cōtrary to y t which y e vniuersal church obserueth beleue thē not Geue no credit to thē for they would but deceiue you w t false allegatiōs or false applicatiōs of scriptures cōtrary to y e meaning of tholy gost Thinke y t scrypture is no scripture if the true intente meaning be not there yea if therin ye folow not y e authority of the churche For howe shall we know I pray you that Moyses wrote al y t is in hꝭ .v. bokes seing we neuer saw his hande writing Yea though we had sene it howe could we know it to be his hāde he being dead so lōg ago or if we knew al this how were we sure y t all that he wrote was true y t god spake vnto him And y e same is likewise to be demaunded of al the prophetes writinges If ye say christ bare testimony of Moyses of y e law of y t prophetes then I aske further howe ye know by christes testimonye y t these which we rede be Moyses or the prophetes writinges although we graūt y ● by christꝭ testimony Moy. y e ꝓph wer true faithful Yea yet further how know ye y t christ bare testimonye of Moyses y e prophetes whō ye neuer heard preche nor teache If ye say by y e euāgelistes thē I turne agayne aske how ye know these to be y e ghospels of Mathue Marke or Luke seing ye neuer sawe theyr hādes writing And if ye had sene thē yet ye knewe thē not but suppose ye know them how do ye wote y t all is true y t thei wrote seing eueri mā may be deceyued yea speciallye Marke Luke whiche wrote but of here say dyd neuer see christ If ye say they wrote being taught by tholy gost then y e same doubt cometh agayne howe ye knowe tholy ghoste taught thē or how know ye y t these be their writinges w tout corruptiō or mixture Cā ye by any menes saue or defēd thautority of y e scripture but onlye by thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradiciōs surely by none other Ye know which be the canonical scriptures y e true sēse therof only by y e testimonye of y e church vnderstād receiued by successiō of the fathers frō y e beginnīg til this our time Dionise Clemēt Policarpe Ignatiꝰ Tertuliā Origē Ciprian Athana Basil Hilari Chriso Ambrose Hierome Austine w t al holy mē euer since had neuer other rule to know y e truth of scripture by but onely y t comē professiō cōsēt of al the fathers euer in their time by successiō linking together their testimonies for y e ful knowledge of y e truth This is was euer shalbe y e very piller foūdaciō wherunto we must nedes lein So y t we haue receiued y e truth of y e ghospel by y e ecclesiasticall tradiciō rather thē by writing yea y e certitude of our religiō sure fayth hath not depēded frō y e begining vpō y e authority of y e gospels writē but rather cōtrarywise y e authoriti of y e gospel writtē hath depēded vpon the certitude of our religiō c. Paule whē he sayd if an angel frō heuē preche any other ghospel thē thꝭ cursed be he did not meane of any ghospel writen which thē had no authority ī y e church though sone after y e gospels writē for certē causes receued their authority of y e church And here is now to be noted y t we rede in Eusebius how that Serapion that learned holy bishop of Antioche sayd we receyue Peter other of thappostels euen as christ but we refuse such thinges as be falsely writen vnder their names bicause we haue no such tradiciō of the church c. This was y e rule then to know thinges by when they euer receiued al as it were by hād one of an other Thē they perceiued y t thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradicyō extēded much further then the authority of y e ghospel writen y t in al doubtful cases it must geue sētēce iudgemēt whych is truth which is falsily So y t here nowe to cōclude though heretikes wrast neuer so mani textes of scripture agaynst the popes authority it maketh no force nor proueth any thing agaynste our purpose And yet moreouer hereby appeareth y ● though there were no scripture at al to proue the popes authority by as there be very mani yet y t made nothing contrarye herevnto seing that by successession it hath bene stil receiued euē frō Peters time
to breke the order bicause thei would be vnder no head but al at lose liberti so many heades so many wittes euer sturrīg to diuersity in opiniōs mouīg thē to sediciō euer causing y e prīces magistrates to leaue to their parte How be it al y e deuels indeuor hereī is ī vaine For christ promissed as ye haue herd that y e gates of hel should neuer preuaile agaīst this Peters shipe neuer drowne though sometimꝭ it be sore tossed Christ to Peter alone as to the heade shepeherd gaue charge ouer al his shepe biddinge him alone fede gouerne them appoyntīg him not ouer Rome alone saith Chrisostome but ouer the whole worlde which professe Christ when at his assenscion he goinge into the farre countrey mencioned in y e gospel gaue him that large commission So that who so euer obeieth not hereunto he is cut of and perteyneth no more to Christes churche then a roten bowe cut of the tree and cast a side parteyneth to the liuelye tree And this both the Greke church and the Latine playnly do teache Clement Anacletus Ireneus Tertulian Origen Cipriā Basil Ciril Chrisostom Athanasius Ambrose Hillari and Austine with all the rest euer since Whom shall we beleue then herein Al these with the consente of the who●e churche or els shall we geue credit to Swinglius Ecolam podius and Luther whereof not one can agree with the other ¶ The .xii. probacion The cause why Christ chaūged Simons name and called him Peter was for y t ye he should be head after him And here first note y t rede of no chaunging of names in scripture but for some great benefite priuelege or high dignity as appeareth in Abrahā Iacob and other And as for Peters name it was not geuē with out most high mistery and as a signe of greate priuelege For Peter is deriued of Christes own name a petra of the stone which was Christ So y t he had his name most like vnto Christes name euen deriued taken forthe of it not only thereby to signifye vnto vs that Peter shold haue Christes chiefe authoritie and office cōmitted vnto him but also bicause christ did build his church here upō when he sayd to Peter vpō this stone I wil builde my churche What is y t S. Hierom Hilari theophe vpō Mat. the .xvi. Tertul. also in li. de presc her And S. Aug. con 26. de san do plaīly declare say y ● christ gaue to Peter an exceding great reward for his cōfessiō in that he ded build his church vpon him he being named the stone of y e church to be builded Whereby appeareth y ● Peter was y e stone where vpō the church was builded This is the cēsure herein of these aūcient fathers and holye saintes But of thꝭ matter ye haue more in the aunswere to y e .vii. obiection ¶ The .xiii. probation There was stil one chief head in y e olde law which christ as he saithe came not to breake Therfore one must nedes cōtinue stil ī y e new If ye say christ is now y e head whereof y e other was the figure trueth is christ was and is the head euer as Paule sayth Christus heri et hodie c in thold as wel as in the new and yet as he had his vicare vnder him then so must he haue nowe as Aaron was then so was Peter nowe All chaunsed to them in figure Aaron diuerslye was a figure of Peter Aaron offended in the calfe Peter in denying his mayster Aarons highe office was confirmed with the death of Chore and his company so was Peters with the death of Ananye Saphire Aarons wyth buddynge of the rodde Peters with raysing Tabithā with healing the lame man with curing diseases euē with his shadow c. ¶ The .xiiii. probation In the sinagoge there was one head bishop and diuerse degrees vnder him in the church triumphant Christe the heade with diuers degrees and ordres of aungels shall then the churche militaunt be without a head In al natural thinges there is euer one head In euery politike and comen wealth one heade one kynge in a realme as is in the faurthe probation one maior in a citye one shiriffe in a shire one head in euery house and shall there not be one head in the churche vpon whom and vpon whose aucthoritie all other must depende to desise all contrauerses shal Christes church be a monster either without a head or els hauinge many heades and euery one to do as he wil shal we graunt this confusiō Shal not thē euery one wrast scripture after his owne braīe but what shall we say further hath not the successiō in the sea of Rome continued frō the beginninge doeth not Ireneus declare this doth not S. Aug. say y ● the successiō of Bishopes in the see of Rome til this daye kepeth me saith he in the bosome and vnytie of Christes churche ¶ The .xv. probation If Christ had lafte Thappostels without a head yea or if sīce we could haue bene without one then must nedes haue chaunsed that which is spoken the last chapter of the boke of Iudges y t in those daies there was no ruler in Israell but euerie one dyd that whyche he thought good him selfe And this were an opē way to al herisies as s Cipriā wytnesseth And therfore it is no meruell that y ● deuil is euer most busiest to bring christē people frō y e vnitie frō hauing one head to make christes body a mōstruous body with manye heades For then throughe variaunce scisme contention he euer soweth heresies at hys pleasure So that ther is no more open waye to let in all heresies then to take awaye Peters primacye and authorytye frome the church wherfore let thautoriti of the church neuer go aboute to extincte other heresies tyll this great wound be healed we clerely restored to the vnitye agayne Where the bone within is perished to heale the flesh without nothīg helpeth ¶ The .xvi. probation Aaron was a figure of Peter like as Moyses was of Christe And as Aaron was vnder Moyses so Peter was vnder Christ al being priestes Moises et Aaron in sacerdotibꝰ eius And as Moises w t God and Aaron with y e people hādled all matters god sayinge to Moyses Aaron shall be thy mouth to the people and thou his to me euen so Christ was Peters mouth to god whē he said I haue prayed for the. c. And Peter was Christes mouthe to the people when Christe sayde to him confirme thou and strengthen thy brethren And here obserue this sayth S. Aug. vpō y e said text lu 20. y t Christe neither prayd for Iames nor Iohn but only for Peter in whom al the other were cōteined he beinge y e head of the familie And therfore in paying the tribute money wherof is spokē in the .iii.
finde a cause that shal seme expediēt y t the Kinge in his owne person shall goe Wil they not then say it hath pleased y t King the Councel y e the King him selfe shal goe take one chiefe Duke with him as Peter had Iohn w t him May it not then be sayd the cause was so great they haue euē sende fourth the King haue not euen the verye consuls of Rome as histories declare ofte so bene sente was not therfore the consuls authoritye the higheste but to be counted equal with other yea haue we not a lyke example in scripture how the head of al Phinees was sēt .x. Princes with him in to the land of Galaad euē so Peter the head as moste mete and as most honorable was put therunto being so sent to Samaria yea note this that Peter euer vsed humble submission but where authoritie was required But further yet herein to speake what derogation were it now to the Popes authoritie if the whole college of Cardinalles did conclude that it were expediēt for his fatherhode now to come in to Englande Moreouer note wel concerning this obiectiō that in thactes Lukes chiefe purpose was to describe y e pere grinatiō of him self of Paule so y ● not one worde is there of Peters tarieng nor of his stallaciō at Antioche nor of y e deuidīg thapostels into sūdry cūtres nor whō they cōuerted nor what martirdōe they suffered ¶ The .xiii. obiection In y e xv of thactes in y e questiō had about the legals Iames had y e chefe preeminēce for the coūcel was cōcluded by hī c. The aunswere S. Peter made S. Iames Bushop of Ierusalē as Anacletus Peters disciple successour saith after him Chrisostome cōfirmeth y e same with these wordes Peter y e Master of y e whole world made Saint Iames Bushope of Ierusalē Do ye thinke then that Saint Iames would take vpō him to be aboue his head but now I pray you iustlye pouder wey the place Actes the .xv. and ye shal fynde that both Peter did first as head say his mind yea though it were in S. Iames see and also that which Peter then said toke place shortly after yet doth S. Iames euen then confirminge Peters sayinge with the prophetes testimony What maketh it then against Peters authoritie that S. Iames approuing all that Peter had spoken added somthīg to Peters wordes which addicion yet shortly after was quite taken awaye and neuer since obserued that is to saye to abstene from bloud c. yea may not y e chiefe of a councel first geue his sētence as Peter did here yet after him an inferior may say something more whyche shalbe thought to the whole coūsel better for y e time doeth this any thing againste thautoritie of the chiefest Peters iudgemēt was y t the heathen people should be quite deliuered frō al the Iewishe burdens so shortlye after it was fullye concluded though for a shorte time S. Iames counsel was taken as appeareth by y t Paule then sone afterwrote to the Corinthians bye al that cōmeth into y e shambles eate all thinges c. to Tite all meates be cleane vnto the pure to the Romās no meate is to be coūted cōmen or vncleane ye whyche eate not misiudge not them that eate Againe to the Collosians let no mā iudge you in receiuīg your meate c Wherby wel appereth that S. Peters sentēce was chiefe as spokē by the chiefe But herin yet more to speake note wel y t Peter ofte amonges thappostels vsed suche modestye humilitie and in so doinge did folow Christes cōmaūdemēt which bad y e higher they were the lower more humble they ought to be y t he dyd not euer put his high authoritye in executiō but as S. Ciprian saith y t Peter whome Christe made head of al and vpon whom he builded his church whē Paule dyd contende with him aboute circumcision dyd not reuenge or boste him selfe that he was the Prince or chief of al as he iustly might haue said but stil he humbled him selfe But god forbid y t we should ascribe this his hūble gentil submittinge to the derogation of his highe power authoritie but thinke y t euer whē Christes glorye or the profit of y e flocke required it then he vsed his ful and high authoritye as appereth in the punishīg of Anany Saphire Simon Magus c. And yet furthermore in the primatiue churche it was rather time as is in the .viii. responsion to cal people in to Christes flocke then to set euerye man in his owne place or to talke then of rules and orders or of Peters authority that was to be done afterwarde the people beinge first instructed in y e faith Thē was rather y e time to seke for gethering thē for gouernīg And if we loke well we shall fynde not onlye in the ghospel before Christes ascēsion but also afterwarde in thactes that Peter behaued him selfe as head and Prince euer when time required and occasion serued He spake for al he answred for al he for al said to Christ beholde we haue forsaken al and folowed thee what rewarde therfore shall we haue againe he sayde to Christe speakest thou this parable to vs or vnto all when Christe asked whether they woulde goe awaye also from him Peter alone made answere saying to whom shall we goe thou hast the wordes of lyfe None dyd thus but he and that bycause he was heade Howbe it as yet whiles Christ was present with them in his naturall shape for in y e forme of breade he is euer stil presēt it was not meete that his vicare should greatlye medle But after thascension Peter firste stode vppe as heade and made the sermon at the chosynge of Mathias and sayde oportet we must chose one c. And after when they had receyued tholy ghoste and were illuded of the people he alone spake and preached conuertinge them to the faythe .3000 people at once Also when he Iohn came into the temple at y ● .ix. houre of prayer he alone sayde to the lame creple that whych I haue I geue the in the name of Iesus arise c. The lame mā asked almes of both and Peter bade loke vpon both but he sayd not in the name of bothe we haue neyther golde nor siluer y t whiche we haue we geue thee c. But as head he in y e singuler number as hauinge a singuler authority said yea though Iohn one of the chiefe of the appostels were present I haue neyther golde nor siluer y t whiche I haue I geue thee c. And this declareth him to be head Likewise he alone for all as head made the oration to pacifie the people and he alone as prince did strike Ananye and Saphire Whiche of all the apostels in the presence
prophit testifieth Moyses Aaron in sacerdotibus eius so that to proue Aarō vnder Moises maketh nothīg againste my purpose no more then to proue y t Peter was vnder christ shold make agaīst it The .l. obiection Achimelech the high prieste vsed all subiectiō whē he spake to kinge Saul whiche caused him notwithstandinge he was the high prieste to be kilde bycause he had asked councell of god for Dauid ¶ The answere Achimelech as authors do testifye did signifie Christ being betrayed and put to death by Doeth signifienge Iudas His condemnation was most vniust and Saul in that facte moste wicked and cruel The people disobeyed the kinges cōmaundemēt therein as it is in the text .i. reg xxii woulde not kil the high prieste whē he bade them knowynge it to be contrarye to gods wil as Rabbye Salomon testifieth But then wicked Doech a straunger borne dyd kyl him that contrarye to gods wyl Nowe in that ye saye the high prieste vsed al subiection in speakinge to the wycked kinge that surelye was no meruel he spake for his lyfe which he perceued then to stand in great ieoperdi being in the tirantes handes ¶ The .li. obiection Did not Salomon put Abiathar the high prieste to death would he haue done that if he hadde not bene in authoritye aboue him The answere He neither put him to death nor caused him to be put to death But he put him forth of his great office and dignitie to signifye inquit glos iii. reg ii that the Iewes should not be vtterly destroyed tho●gh their pristehode was ended but that towarde the ende of the world thei should come into Christes flocke and so cause to be one shepecote and one shepherde That expulsinge of Abiathar the high prieste was not done without the spirite of prophecye and that the scripture of God i. Reg. ii spoken of Hely the priest might be fulfilled where it was sayd to him that for the wickednes of his sōnes Ofne and Phinees all his posteritye should lose thoffice of the high priestehode And here note that Aarō the high priest had .ii. sonnes Eleazar Ithamar that to Eleazar and his posteritye that highe office by gods oppointmēt did perteine How be it through offences cōmitted god turned it for a time vnto Ithamar after to Hely and last of all to Abiathar of the same lyne but now in the beginnīg of Salomōs reigne God turned it from Abiathar whyche came of Ithamar to Sadoch whyche came of Eleazar to whome and to whose posteritye god appointed firste the highpriestes office Marke wel his secrettes be verye priuey bothe in ponyshinge for synne and also in those thinges that were done in figure Here by puttīg Abiathar forth of the high Priestes rowme putting in Sadoch was signyfyed the putting awaye the leuiticall priesthod the institutinge the newe after the ordre of Melchisedech And this fygure S. Paule doth speake of Hebrues the .vii. ¶ The .lii. obiection King Alex. wrote to Ionathas the high priest saying we haue now this daye ordeined thee to be the high prieste ouer thy people c. The aunswere Alex. was an heathen king the sonne of Antiochus nowe like to be greatlye troubled w t warre agaīst Demetrius and therfore was glad to sende for ayde to y e Iewes so sende to y ● high priest Ionathas which came of the line of Aarō as did Iudas Mathias other So that he now receyued not this high office of the heathen king which had no power to gyue it him although hereby appeareth the good wil that the heathen king bare toward him y t he would defende him in his office to the vttermoste and therfore in signe therof he send him diuerse Princelye gyftes saing this daye haue we ordened the to be high prieste that is to saye we by all our power and strēgth do promisse to ratifye streghthen and defende the in thy high office c. yea beside this suppose y t kīg Alex. had had authority power in dede to haue chosē Ionathas the high prieste he being ones iustlye chosen what had that bene againste his high priestehode surelye nothinge at all No more then it were against the authoritie of our holye father the Pope if the college of Cardinales after his election had send vnto him beinge absent sainge this daye we haue chosen your most holye father hode to be the highest paster ouer al christendome c. How be it I maye geue one answere to al the .v. last obiections and saye that in tholde law they liued fleshlye and the seculer power was then y e higher it was then called y e priestly kingdome bycause y e priesthod then did depende vpon y e kingdome but now contrariwise it is called a kinglye priestehode in i. Petri. ii the priestehoode beinge now y e chiefe and the spiritual power aboue y e Carnal And this is now required in y e time of grace The .liii. obiection As tholde law was a figure of the new so was y e olde priesthode a figure of the priest hode of the ghospel but y e priesthode in the olde was subiecte to the power and dignitie of Kinges therfore it must be so now ¶ The aunswere The similitude is not like as appereth in the last respōsion The .liii. obiection There is not one worde in scripture y e maketh anye men●ion of the Byshope of Rome Wherby then woulde he haue his authoritye The answere The place geueth not authoritye to the Byshope but the Byshope to the place Ye haue in scripture y t Peter by priuelege had y e keyes geuē to him being chiefe of al other as it is fully declared that Rome was at his death establisshed to be the see for all his posteritye Rede the answere to y e .18 obiection The .lv. obiection Peter was the chiefe onlye bycause of his confession that is to saye chiefest in vertue in preachinge and in ruling affections c. ¶ The aunswere No doubt it is true y t Christe would his elect to excel in vertue in preachinge in rulinge affectiōs c. but y t Peters preeminence dyd not consist here in appeareth partlye by that S. Iohn beīg a virgin was more pure then Peter and euerye other of Thappostels as feruaunt as he and as diligent in preaching as he and partly by that if this were true that Peters superioritie dyd only consist here in then our faith concerninge the vnitye could not by succession haue so longe continued as it hathe done styl in the see of Rome Rede the .lvii. responsion The .lvi. obiection The Disciple is not greater then his Mayster but Christe was in all subiection how then can it be that Peter was superiour or chiefe of all other The answere Christe was superiour and chiefe ouer al and yet of humilitye to teache the Disciples y t the higher they were the more low they ought euer to be in