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16._o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o we_o may_v reason_v negative_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o matter_n of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n and_o other_o indifferent_a thing_n you_o accuse_v i_o for_o not_o allege_v of_o scripture_n better_o it_o be_v to_o allege_v none_o than_o thus_o to_o allege_v they_o to_o no_o purpose_n or_o rather_o to_o abuse_v they_o chapter_n 1._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 21._o sect._n 1._o 2._o 3._o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o nothing_o ought_v to_o be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n as_o necessary_a unto_o salvation_n or_o as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n except_o sufficient_a wherein_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a it_o be_v express_o contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o may_v manifest_o thereof_o be_v gather_v and_o therefore_o we_o utter_o condemn_v and_o reject_v transubstantiation_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n worship_v of_o image_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o case_n a_o argument_n take_v ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la scripturae_fw-la negatiuè_fw-fr be_v most_o strong_a as_o for_o example_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n ought_v to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o believe_v that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v also_o true_a that_o nothing_o in_o ceremony_n order_n discipline_n or_o government_n in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v suffer_v be_v against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o we_o reject_v all_o ceremony_n wherein_o there_o be_v any_o opinion_n to_o salvation_n worship_v of_o god_n or_o merit_n as_o creep_v to_o the_o cross_n holy_a bread_n holy-water_n holycandle_n etc._n etc._n t._n c._n pag._n 14._o lin._n 3._o but_o you_o say_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n it_o hold_v which_o thing_n you_o oppose_v after_o and_o set_v against_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n order_n discipline_n &_o government_n proof_n government_n as_o though_o i_o be_v enough_o for_o you_o to_o say_v on_o such_o silly_a proof_n as_o though_o matter_n of_o discipline_n and_o kind_n of_o government_n be_v not_o matter_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o of_o faith_n particularibus_fw-la faith_n arg_fw-mi ex_fw-la solis_fw-la particularibus_fw-la the_o case_n which_o you_o put_v whither_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o matter_n that_o concern_v the_o government_n and_o the_o kind_n of_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o same_o be_v a_o matter_n that_o touch_v faith_n and_o that_o stand_v upon_o our_o salvation_n excommunication_n and_o other_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v forerunner_n unto_o excommunication_n be_v matter_n of_o discipline_n and_o the_o same_o be_v also_o of_o faith_n and_o of_o salvation_n the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o of_o baptism_n be_v ceremony_n and_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n and_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o you_o which_o distinguishe_v between_o these_o and_o say_v that_o the_o former_a that_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n and_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n may_v not_o be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n unless_o they_o be_v express_o contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o manifest_o gather_v but_o that_o this_o late_a which_o be_v ceremonies_z order_z discipline_n government_n in_o the_o church_n may_v not_o be_v receyve_v against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o receyve_v if_o there_o be_v no_o word_n against_o they_o although_o there_o be_v none_o for_o they_o you_o i_o say_v distinguish_v or_o devide_v after_o this_o sort_n do_v prove_v yourself_o to_o be_v as_o evil_a a_o devider_n as_o you_o show_v yourself_o before_o a_o expounder_n for_o this_o be_v to_o break_v in_o piece_n and_o
obedience_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o commandment_n and_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n direct_v a_o man_n in_o all_o his_o action_n &_o that_o which_o 4._o 1._o tim._n 4._o s._n paul_n say_v of_o meat_n and_o drink_n that_o they_o be_v sanctify_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o thing_n else_o whatsoever_o we_o have_v the_o use_n of_o but_o the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n in_o the._n 14._o to_o the_o rom._n be_v of_o all_o other_o most_o clear_a where_o speak_v of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v call_v indifferent_a in_o the_o end_n he_o conclude_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n but_o faith_n be_v not_o but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o do_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v sin_n and_o if_o any_o will_v say_v that_o s._n paul_n mean_v there_o a_o full_a persuasion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o that_o which_o he_o do_v be_v well_o do_v i_o grant_v it_o but_o from_o whence_o can_v that_o spring_v but_o from_o faith_n and_o how_o can_v we_o persuade_v and_o assure_v ouresclue_n that_o we_o do_v well_o but_o whereas_o we_o have_v the_o word_n o_o god_n for_o our_o warrant_n so_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o a_o metonunie_a subjecti_fw-la pro_fw-la adiuncto_fw-la do_v give_v to_o understand_v from_o whence_o the_o assure_a persuasion_n do_v spring_n whereupon_o it_o fall_v out_o that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o man_fw-mi our_o action_n even_o civil_a and_o private_a we_o ought_v to_o follow_v the_o direction_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n &_o which_o concern_v all_o there_o may_v be_v nothing_o do_v but_o by_o the_o word_n of_o go_v vain_a go_v then_o have_v you_o h_v r_o to_o stri_fw-la ed_z in_o vain_a not_o that_o we_o say_v as_o you_o charge_v we_o in_o these_o word_n when_o you_o say_v that_o we_o say_v that_o here_o that_o hold_v you_o here_o no_o 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n may_v be_v in_o the_o church_n except_o the_o same_o be_v express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o that_o in_o make_v order_n &_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o do_v what_o man_n listen_v but_o they_o be_v find_v to_o follow_v the_o general_a rule_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v give_v to_o be_v the_o squire_n whereby_o those_o shall_v be_v square_v out_o io._n whitgifte_n when_o i_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a unto_o salvation_n i_o do_v 15._o now_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d the_o direction_n of_o all_o thing_n belong_v to_o the_o life_n of_o man_n page_n 15._o not_o mean_v that_o it_o contain_v those_o thing_n only_o neither_o do_v i_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n so_o contain_v general_o the_o direction_n of_o all_o thing_n pertain_v to_o the_o church_n or_o that_o 〈◊〉_d fall_n into_o any_o part_n of_o man_n life_n that_o nothing_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n or_o in_o the_o life_n of_o man_n contrary_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o not_o according_a to_o the_o true_a intent_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o same_o yet_o do_v i_o deny_v that_o the_o scripture_n do_v express_v particular_o every_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n which_o you_o yourself_o afterward_o confess_v or_o that_o it_o do_v set_v down_o any_o one_o certain_a form_n and_o kind_n of_o government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v perpetual_a for_o all_o time_n person_n and_o place_n without_o alteration_n as_o i_o shall_v hereafter_o more_o particular_o declare_v the_o place_n you_o do_v allege_v out_o of_o the._n 2._o chap._n of_o salomon_n proverbe_n do_v not_o prove_v your_o purpose_n for_o solomon_n there_o teach_v the_o fruit_n and_o commodity_n of_o wisdom_n and_o in_o the_o person_n of_o she_o declare_v what_o understanding_n he_o shall_v have_v in_o righteousness_n judgement_n equity_n and_o every_o good_a path_n that_o harken_v unto_o wisdom_n obey_v her_o commandment_n and_o give_v his_o hart_n to_o knowledge_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n have_v express_v every_o particular_a ceremony_n or_o kind_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n how_o follow_v this_o reason_n if_o prince_n and_o such_o as_o be_v in_o authority_n receive_v the_o word_n of_o wisdom_n and_o hide_v her_o commandment_n within_o they_o etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v understand_v 2._o pro_fw-la er_fw-mi 2._o righteousness_n judgement_n and_o equity_n and_o every_o good_a path_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o scripture_n do_v express_v every_o ceremony_n order_n discipline_n or_o kind_n of_o government_n that_o be_v to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n sure_o except_o you_o take_v heed_n you_o will_v wander_v as_o far_o out_o of_o the_o way_n in_o aleage_v the_o scripture_n as_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n do_v in_o quote_v they_o i_o grant_v you_o that_o prince_n must_v give_v themselves_o to_o the_o 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clean_o the_o same_o be_v to_o 15._o tit._n 1._o 15._o be_v desire_v by_o we_o of_o he_o as_o the_o author_n and_o giver_n of_o they_o and_o when_o we_o have_v they_o we_o must_v be_v thankful_a for_o they_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o any_o thing_n that_o we_o have_v now_o in_o controversy_n but_o the_o place_n of_o saint_n paul_n in_o the._n 14._o to_o the_o roman_n you_o say_v be_v of_o all_o other_o most_o clear_a etc._n etc._n whereupon_o you_o frame_v this_o argument_n paul_n speak_v of_o thing_n which_o be_v call_v indifferent_a say_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o say_v be_v sin_n but_o faith_n be_v not_o but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o
like_a matter_n i_o will_v wish_v you_o to_o deal_v sineere_o the_o question_n that_o we_o have_v now_o in_o ▪_o controversy_n the_o subtle_a deal_n of_o t._n c._n in_o alter_v y_o e_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n hand_n be_v whether_o the_o scripture_n have_v express_v all_o external_a thing_n touch_v the_o order_n ceremony_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n i_o prove_v it_o have_v not_o both_o by_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o by_o manifest_a example_n and_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o best_a learned_a you_o not_o be_v able_a to_o answer_v and_o yet_o desirous_a to_o seem_v to_o say_v somewhat_o to_o shift_v of_o these_o example_n and_o authority_n dally_v at_o the_o matter_n and_o will_v make_v your_o reader_n believe_v that_o i_o will_v have_v thing_n use_v in_o the_o church_n contrary_a or_o not_o accord_v to_o the_o scripture_n from_o the_o which_o opinion_n i_o be_o as_o far_o of_o as_o you_o and_o a_o great_a way_n far_o except_o you_o revoke_v some_o 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murderer_n abulterer_n incestuous_a person_n and_o such_o like_a which_o god_n by_o his_o indiciall_a law_n have_v command_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n whereby_o he_o bind_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o the_o observe_n of_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n and_o condemn_v this_o state_n &_o government_n now_o use_v in_o this_o realm_n of_o england_n of_o manifest_a impiety_n pag._n 120._o 7_z he_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o drunkard_n nor_o whoremonger_n at_o the_o least_o which_o be_v know_v which_o assertion_n tend_v to_o anabaptisme_n pag._n 176._o 8_o he_o say_v that_o what_o socuer_v apparel_n the_o magistrate_n command_v the_o minister_n to_o wear_v the_o commandment_n can_v not_o be_v without_o some_o injury_n do_v to_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v to_o debar_v the_o magistrate_n from_o appoint_v any_o kind_n of_o apparel_n to_o minister_n pag._n 265._o 9_o he_o say_v that_o those_o ministery_n without_o the_o which_o the_o 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t._n c._n pag._n 139._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o distinction_n which_o be_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v senior_n or_o ancient_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o not_o of_o peace_n under_o tyrant_n &_o not_o under_o christian_n magistrate_n may_v appear_v the_o cause_n why_o these_o senior_n or_o ancient_n be_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v which_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v to_o be_v for_o that_o the_o pastor_n not_o be_v able_a to_o oversee_v all_o himself_o &_o to_o have_v his_o eye_n in_o every_o corner_n of_o the_o church_n &_o place_n where_o y_o e_o churches_n abode_n may_v be_v help_v of_o the_o ancient_n wherein_o the_o wonderful_a love_n of_o god_n towards_o his_o church_n do_v manifest_o appear_v that_o for_o the_o great_a assurance_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o he_o do_v not_o content_v himself_o to_o appoint_v one_o only_a ourseer_n of_o every_o church_n 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god_n have_v provide_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o other_o gonernour_n to_o punish_v and_o to_o correct_v vice_n and_o other_o disorder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o have_v his_o officer_n and_o deputy_n in_o every_o place_n for_o that_o purpose_n neither_o may_v the_o pastor_n or_o any_o other_o to_o who_o that_o charge_n be_v not_o commit_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n usurp_v that_o office_n unto_o themselves_o wherefore_o that_o cause_n by_o you_o allege_v be_v no_o cause_n at_o all_o why_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o such_o senior_n where_o there_o be_v christian_n magistrate_n neither_o be_v that_o kind_n of_o government_n any_o part_n of_o the_o pastor_n charge_n the_o pastor_n if_o he_o be_v a_o meet_a man_n be_v able_a to_o o_o all_o that_o that_o be_v require_v of_o a_o pastor_n else_o may_v it_o be_v say_v which_o you_o before_o deny_v that_o god_n appoint_v office_n &_o function_n and_o give_v not_o sufficient_a gift_n to_o execute_v &_o do_v they_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o god_n have_v esse_fw-la care_n of_o his_o church_n when_o he_o place_v civil_a and_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o the_o stead_n of_o senior_n than_o when_o he_o place_v senior_n and_o leave_v it_o destitute_a of_o christian_a mastrate_n for_o one_o of_o the_o most_o ingular_a benefit_n that_o god_n bestow_v on_o his_o church_n in_o this_o world_n be_v that_o he_o give_v unto_o it_o christian_n king_n &_o prince_n from_o who_o office_n and_o authority_n whosoever_o do_v detract_v and_o withdraw_v we_o any_o thing_n iniuri_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o show_v himself_o unthankful_a for_o so_o great_a a_o benefit_n chap._n 2._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o in_o deed_n if_o so_o be_v the_o auncientes_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o under_o a_o tyrant_n have_v meddle_v with_o any_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n or_o have_v supply_v the_o room_n of_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n in_o handle_v of_o any_o of_o those_o thing_n 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or_o mild_a as_o the_o fault_n require_v also_o to_o assist_v in_o the_o suspention_n from_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n until_o some_o trial_n be_v have_v of_o the_o repentance_n of_o that_o party_n which_o have_v confess_v himself_o to_o have_v offend_v or_o else_o if_o he_o remain_v stubborn_a to_o assist_v he_o in_o the_o excommunication_n these_o be_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o elder_a do_v which_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o may_v do_v as_o well_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n as_o under_o a_o tyrant_n as_o well_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o touch_v the_o office_n of_o elder_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o persecution_n of_o a_o christian_n prince_n and_o of_o a_o tyrant_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v by_o what_o place_n of_o scripture_n you_o can_v i_o stifie_v this_o office_n that_o you_o matter_n the_o office_n ascri_fw-la ed_z to_z senior_n 〈◊〉_d the_o gistrate_n o_o his_o authoriti_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n here_o appoint_v unto_o senior_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o matter_n in_o my_o judgement_n you_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v use_v some_o authority_n of_o scripture_n or_o other_o ancient_a writer_n the_o admonition_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n to_o consult_v to_o admo_fw-la sh_n to_o correct_v &_o to_o order_v all_o thing_n appertain_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o congregation_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a i_o pray_v you_o what_o authority_n remain_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o church_n matter_n in_o d_o ede_fw-mi if_o you_o make_v such_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o church_n &_o
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shall_v meddle_v with_o the_o civil_a punishment_n why_o shall_v it_o not_o be_v a_o help_n to_o the_o magistrate_n office_n that_o he_o shall_v excommunicate_v etc._n etc._n the_o answer_n be_v soon_o make_v the_o magistrate_n may_v do_v that_o by_o corporal_a punishment_n that_o the_o minister_n can_v not_o do_v by_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o man_n so_o desperate_a who_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o authority_n may_v not_o bridle_v but_o such_o be_v y_fw-fr e_o time_n now_o that_o few_o regard_n the_o great_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n 2._o and_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v they_o may_v not_o be_v husband_n man_n craft_n man_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o may_v have_v civil_a office_n i_o think_v far_o otherwise_o that_o although_o neither_o be_v lawful_a yet_o the_o one_o be_v more_o tolerable_a than_o the_o other_o for_o see_v after_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n there_o 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