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A65817 The Leviathan found out, or, The answer to Mr. Hobbes's Leviathan in that which my Lord of Clarendon hath past over by John Whitehall ... Whitehall, John, fl. 1679-1685. 1679 (1679) Wing W1866; ESTC R5365 68,998 178

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the_o damn_a and_o p._n 243._o say_v that_o fire_n in_o scripture_n which_o be_v mention_v as_o a_o punishment_n in_o several_a text_n be_v to_o be_v take_v metaphorical_o and_o may_v be_v express_v in_o proper_a term_n which_o he_o say_v p._n 244._o be_v no_o more_o but_o vexation_n of_o mind_n to_o see_v other_o happy_a and_o that_o the_o condemn_a person_n shall_v not_o be_v ever_o in_o it_o but_o die_v never_o to_o live_v again_o and_o now_o mr._n hobbes_n live_v or_o die_v may_v think_v he_o have_v make_v himself_o a_o safe_a bargain_n what_o can_v more_o encourage_v wicked_a man_n to_o go_v on_o in_o their_o sin_n than_o this_o or_o not_o to_o value_v whether_o they_o assent_v or_o no_o to_o mr._n hobbe_n his_o damnable_a doctrine_n both_o of_o belief_n and_o practice_n but_o the_o rational_a or_o argumentative_a part_n of_o this_o i_o shall_v pass_v over_o because_o my_o lord_n of_o clarendon_n have_v say_v so_o much_o upon_o this_o matter_n and_o only_o cite_v some_o few_o 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the_o merit_n of_o our_o bless_a lord_n and_o saviour_n the_o less_o for_o what_o mr._n hobbes_n in_o this_o chapter_n say_v who_o after_o he_o have_v be_v endeavour_v to_o make_v all_o religion_n a_o foppery_n to_o set_v up_o idolatrous_a worship_n to_o debase_v our_o saviour_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o miracle_n to_o make_v the_o credibility_n of_o the_o scripture_n questionable_a to_o deprive_v god_n of_o his_o attribute_n now_o come_v p._n 248._o to_o undervalue_v the_o suffering_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o say_v that_o the_o suffering_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v no_o satisfaction_n or_o price_n for_o sin_n whereby_o christ_n can_v claim_v right_a to_o a_o pardon_n for_o we_o from_o his_o offend_a father_n but_o that_o price_n that_o god_n in_o mercy_n be_v please_v to_o demand_v and_o this_o he_o further_o explain_v himself_o in_o p._n 261._o i_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o suffering_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v all_o that_o god_n demand_v as_o a_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n but_o 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