Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	book_n	canonical_a	4,448	5	10.7889	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03944	An adioynder to the late Catholike new yeares gift, or explication of the oath of allegeance Wherein certaine principall difficulties, obiected by a very learned Roman-Catholike, against the sayd New-yeares gift, and explication of the oath, are very clearely explained. Published by E.I. the author of the New-yeares gift.	Preston, Thomas, 1563-1640.	1620 (1620)	STC 14050; ESTC S100127	50,683	158

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to_o the_o kill_n of_o prince_n excommunicate_v or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n see_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o kill_a usurper_n be_v understand_v by_o all_o that_o approve_v it_o of_o know_v manifest_a and_o undoubted_a usurper_n and_o not_o of_o such_o as_o have_v possession_n &_o also_o a_o probable_a title_n to_o the_o crown_n as_o have_v all_o those_o prince_n which_o be_v excommunicate_v or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n suppose_v it_o to_o be_v a_o controversy_n among_o catholic_n as_o undoubted_o it_o be_v whether_o the_o pope_n have_v authority_n to_o deprive_v wicked_a prince_n or_o no._n if_o 3_o three_o that_o which_o you_o say_v that_o he_o yield_v up_o his_o crown_n as_o some_o have_v do_v it_o be_v evident_a murder_n in_o any_o one_o to_o go_v about_o to_o kill_v such_o a_o prince_n be_v very_o true_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o clear_a and_o express_o contain_v in_o scripture_n but_o to_o prove_v it_o evident_a murder_n you_o must_v use_v the_o help_n of_o a_o argument_n 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