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A32802 The rise, growth, and danger of Socinianisme together with a plaine discovery of a desperate designe of corrupting the Protestant religion, whereby it appeares that the religion which hath been so violently contended for (by the Archbishop of Canterbury and his adherents) is not the true pure Protestant religion, but an hotchpotch of Arminianisme, Socinianisme and popery : it is likewise made evident, that the atheists, Anabaptists, and sectaries so much complained of, have been raised or encouraged by the doctrines and practises of the Arminian, Socinian and popish party / by Fr. Cheynell ... Cheynell, Francis, 1608-1665. 1643 (1643) Wing C3815; ESTC R16168 87,143 88

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is the question Whether Mr. Rouse or Dr. Potter hath answered that subtile booke most like a Protestant let the learned judge I have said enough of Dr. Potter already I referre the Reader to Ladens {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} I am even ashamed to repeat what Dr. Pocklington hath printed in his Sermon Sunday no Sabbath See the first edition p. 48. 50. We must have an Altar with a Crosse upon it if we will beleeve Dr. Pocklington Altare Christianum cap. 21. pag. 143. We may comply with the Jewes in phrase and other respects cap. 22. pag. 147. I hope he doth not mean in Caspar Barlaeus his sense or as the Socinians mean he hath a vain conceit that the Christian Church of the Iewes had Altars I hope they did not bow all to or towards the Altar when they met Act. 15. We must if we will beleeve this Dr. agree with the Iewes in externall Rites Ceremonies p. 147. Give me leave to throw away this book and Dr. Kellet his Tricenium When the Arch Bishop of Canterbury was to assigne what errours in Doctrine might give just cause of separation he would not adventure to set them down in particular lest in these times of discord he might be thought to open a doore for Schisme he knew full well that some who were countenanced by him had brought in errours enough which gáve just cause of separation Knot the Jesuite spoke plaine English to Mr. Chillingworth when he told him that the Doctrine of the Church of England began to be altered in many things for which our Progenitours forsooke the Romane Church For example it is said that the Pope is not Antichrist Prayer for the dead is allowed Limbus Patrum Pictures it is maintained that the Church hath Authority in determining controversies of faith and to interpret Scripture about Free-will Predestination universall grace that all our workes are not sinnes Merit of good workes Inherent Justice Faith alone doth not justify Traditions Commandements possible to be kept Your thirty nine Articles are patient nay ambitious of some sense in which they may seeme Catholique Calvinisme is accounted Heresy and little lesse then treason Men in talke use willingly the once fearfull names of Priests and Altars What saith Mr. Chillingworth to this bold charge Why some things he excuses and grants the rest As for the Popes not being Antichrist the lawfulnesse of some kinde of prayers for the dead the Estate of the Fathers soules before Christs Ascension Free-will Predestination universall grace the possibility of keeping Gods Commandements and the use of pictures in the Church these are not things fit to be stood upon we must not break charity for such matters these points have been anciently disputed amongst Protestants if you will beleeve an Arch-Priest Brearley and so he leaves that point here is a faire compasse a long rope for a Papist Arminian c. to dance in But Mr. Chillingworth saith the Protestants have constantly maintained and doe still maintain that good workes are not properly meritorious and that faith alone justifies but either this is false or else men that are counted Protestants have changed their Religion Franciscus de Sancta Clara wil inform him of the extravagancies of some in these points who passed for such Protestants as England hath been guilty of entertaining of late yeares I have heard it publikely maintained in Oxford by Mr. Wethereld of Queenes Colledge that Bona opera sunt Causae Physicae Vitae Aeternae he had said before that they were Morall Causes by that he meant Meritorious but that expression would not content him It is well known what Dr. Duncan maintained at Cambridge what Shelford printed there what Dr. Dow and Dr. Heylin have since maintained and to their power justifyed you may read their words at large in Ladensium {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the fifth Chapter The Arch-Bishop of Canterbury hath given us the reason why the Jesuites refused to come to our Churches it seems he had invited them since they themselves acknowledge that there is no positive errour in our Liturgy and it is briefly this Because though our Liturgy had in it nothing ill yet it wanted a great deale of that which was good and was in their Service I can now give at least a probable conjecture why his Grace altered the Service-book which he sent into Scotland why surely to please the Jesuites for he put in something which the Jesuites counted good and so in his apprehension made up the defect Mr. Newcomen in his learned Sermon hath shewen at large how punctuall his Grace was in observing the Jesuites instructions for the alteration of our Religion How truth hath been sold at a low rate by the highest Priests is clearely discovered by Mr. Hill in his accurate Sermon Revend Dr. Hakewill hath set forth Dr. Heylin to the life and therefore I will not presume to adde any thing to his happy observations The Ministers Remonstrance will give sufficient light to this point I hope it will be published ere long There is a Book which passeth from hand to hand as a pretious manuscript called Romano-Catholicus Pacificus in which there are many faire offers made for a Reconciliation between Rome and Canterbury the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury shall enjoy the Cyprian priviledge and be subject to no Patriarch of which you may read at large in the supplement of the Canterburian selfe-conviction a passage well worthy the serious consideration of all Statesmen I might make my book swell if I should but reckon up the tithe of Bishop Mountague his Popish expressions and therefore I leave men to peruse his writings there are few points of Popery which you may not find in his bookes or in his Articles at visitation It seemes our guides were gone so farre that the Papists thought they might accept of all Propositions of Accommodation which were tendered to them by our gentle Reconcilers Dr. Featley hath excellently discovered what a good opinion the Romanists conceive of some who professe themselves members of the Church of England Protestants are now counted Heretiques no longer if you will speak properly and strictly saith that Popish Priest and therefore sure Protestantisme is waxed weary of it selfe as Knot speaks you may well know what Protestants this Vertumnus meanes such as have been cited in this sixth Chapter Concerning the book called Jesuitica Negotiatio the Ministers have said enough already I admire at the impudence of divers men who have thus freely expressed themselves for the encouragement of the Arminian Socinian and Popish party and yet are not ashamed to say that they stand for the Protestant religion I have seen a letter under Mr. Chillingworths own hand in which he doth excite Dr. Sheldon of All-soules and Dean Potter c. to stand in defiance of the Parliament and advises them to stir up the youth the young laddes of the University as he
know whether there were any Scripture or no chap. 2. pag. 65 66. I thought it had beene necessary to have received those materiall objects or Articles of our Faith upon the authority of God speaking in the Scriptures I thought it had beene Anabaptisticall to have expected any Revelation but in the Word of God for a Revelation nay a supernaturall revelation is necessary to help naturall reason as the same Mr. Chillingworth acknowledges Knot had very unhappily branded Mr. Chillingworth for a Socinian because he maintaineth That nothing ought or can bee certainly believed farther then it may be proved by evidence of naturall reason where I conceive saith Mr. Chillingworth naturall reason is opposed to supernaturall revelation and whosoever holds so let him be Anathema Sect. 28. in his Answer to Knots Direction to N. N. Now let Mr. Chillingworth say that either there is a Revelation to be expected out of the Word as the Enthyfiasts do or else let him acknowledge that God hath ordained the Scriptures as the meanes and instruments to reveale saving truths and let him teach men to depend upon the Ordinances of God and not make men stand at a gaze to expect a Revelation in an extraordinary way Or else let him speake plaine and say there is truth enough written in the hearts of every man by nature to save him or that it may be learnt from Philosophers writings let him say as Socinus doth that the substance of the promises is eternall life that the maine thing God lookes after is practise that Heathens and Christians have the same practicall rules written in their heart and so if a man doe but hope for eternall life by observing these practicall rules as many Heathens did witnesse that verse of Phocylides {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and the Discourses of Socrates Plato Hermes c. hee may be eternally saved and then we shall know how free he is from Socinidnisme Or else let him confesse that naturall Reason being helped by a supernaturall Revelation in the Word is not able to discerne saving truths so as to beleeve them after a saving manner without the speciall assistance of the holy Ghost such assistance as is vouchsafed to none but the Elect of God and then I will acknowledge that he is no Socinian But otherwise if either he thinke as he seemes to thinke that all the materiall objects which are necessary to salvation may be knowne out of some other booke then Scripture or by some other meanes and that if a man beleeve them meerely as truths probable by reason and doe not receive those truths as the Oracles of God but dictates of Reason then sure he may be a Socinian still nay if he hold a supernaturall Revelation by the Word to be necessary it being the meanes which God hath ordained and so is made necessary to us by Gods ordinance yet if hee thinke this outward revelation to be sufficient without the inward and speciall revelation of the Spirit he may be a Socinian still But this by the way I shall say the lesse of Mr. Chillingworth when I come to touch upon his Booke sure I am such dangerous principles as these will beate greene heads from the study of the Scriptures if they be not censured upon every occasion I know Master Chillingworth protests that he is willing to stand to the judgement of the Catholique Church of this and former ages to the consent of Protestants the Church of England but if he put in the Papists into the Catholicke Church as I beleeve he will then he will say the Papists doe not agree and therefore the Catholick Church of this age is not against the Socinians nay the Fathers doe not all agree and so there is not a Catholick consent of the Ancients as Mr. Chillingworth I beeleeve did purposely shew at large in the eighteenth Section of his Answer to N. N. that so he might winde himselfe out the better in this 28. Section Nay peradventure he will put the Socinians in for to give a vote if you aske for the consent of the Catholique Church of this Age for hee cals them a company of Christians in the 29. Section and though he saith They are erroneous in explicating he doth not say in denying the mysteries of Religion allowing greater liberty in speculative matters so the Socinians call the Articles of the Christian faith then any other company of Christians doth or they should doe yet for their honour he saith they explicate the Lawes of Christ with more rigour and lesse indulgence to the flesh then the Papists doe and that is true but not much for their commendation because they thereby disgrace the Morall Law of God and say it was imperfect till Christ gave new Lawes but Mr. Chillingworth was willing to take any occasion to commend them Moreover if Mr. Chillingworth by the Church of England meane the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury and his faction then indeed there will not be a generall consent of the Church of England against the Socinians Once more if he take in all the Arminians and some Iesuited Papists that as Vertumnus Romanus prescribes come to Church and heare our Common prayers and receive the Sacrament in some Congregations in this Kingdome though they bee of Mr. Fisher or Mr. Flued his minde and ranke all these amongst Protestants for we have had strange kinde of Protestants for these twelve yeares last past then I beleeve there will not be a generall consent of such Protestants against the Socinians and so Mr. Chillingworth may oppose Socinianisme when all these agree together to oppose it But indeed hee hath one Argument which makes me beleeve that he and more of that faction who countenance many Socinian errors doe not agree with the Socinians in all points because Socinianisme if it be taken in all its demensions is such a Doctrine by which no man in his right minde can hope for any honour or preferment either in this Church or State or in any other Many men do indeed adventure as farre as they dare this way onely they are afraid of thwarting the great Designe as I shall hereafter shew I dare not excuse Mr. Chillingworths dangerous principles though I account him a very rationall man yet I beleeve him to be the more dangerous I dare not therefore give him that liberty which he gives others and cry Quisque abundet in sensusuo because they are not the words of S. Paul though Mr. Chillingworth father them upon him chap. 2. pag. 92. the words of the Apostle are Let every man be fully perswaded or assured in his own minde Rom. 14. 5. I goe on to shew the danger of Socinianisme It is an Hotch-potch of Gentilisme Turcisme Judaisme and I know not what they have put in some scruples of Christianity to make up the messe The Centuriatours say that Mahomet did compose his Alcoran by the helpe of the Iewes and Iohannes Antiochenus an Arian and
it seemssuch slaves he had who to satisfy his ambition and their own would deny both their Principles and his that the Master-plot might thrive and prosper For it is observable that our English Arminians and Socinians are nothing so true to their own principles as the Ringleaders of these factions are beyond the Seas His Grace both in his old book and in his new saith that Reason and ordinary grace superadded by the help of Tradition doe sufficiently enlighten the soul to discern that the Scriptures are the oracles of God here is the Socinians sound or right reason before the illumination of the Spirit but to please the Arminians Ordinary or Universall grace comes in also and the name of Tradition to please the Popish party and what all these are like to doe without the speciall Grace of the holy Spirit I leave it to any Protestant to judge There is another Rule which his Grace holds fast in both his bookes namely That the Churches Declaration can bind us to peace and externall obedience where there is not expresse letter of scripture and sense agreed on What Sir must there be no deduction no consequences allowed must there be expresse letter of Scripture there 's one Socinian rule Secondly when the letter of the text is expresse must not the point contained in the Text and expressed in the letter be accounted Fundamentall because the sense is not agreed upon but the point called into question by some learned Socinian or bold Arminian is the sense of that place of Scripture which hath been received by so many Fathers Councels Reformed Churches Martyrs not true or the point not necessary because it is now called into question by some wanton wits that can hardly agree upon any point Must we then subscribe to that Arminian and Socinian principle Nullum dogma controversum est fundamentale When a point begins to be controverted shall it cease to be Fundamentall By this meanes we may bring in an Atheisticall Libertinisme into the Church we shall have no more Articles of our Faith then the Arminians or Socinians please to leave us I beleeve we shall have a very short Creed one of these dayes if this rule be followed for as fast as they please to question our Articles we must part with them especially if our great Patriarch interpose his Authority his Declaration must passe for the Churches Declaration if he say such a point is controverted and I command you silence it is not Fundamentall now because controverted then we must be silent and let the truth fall to the ground This was the old muzle which was put upon the Ministers mouthes to make them lie still like dumbe dogs whiles the theeves stole away what they pleased this and that Commandement this and the other Article of the Christian faith we must it seemes for Peace sake part with our religion and disobey God that we may obey the Church sure he that hath the head of a Scholar and the heart of a Christian will scarce have any inward Peace if he perform externall obedience in such a case This may suffice for a taste of the Arch-Bishops Divinity nor the young Students could not but take notice of such passages and therefore whet their wits to maintain those opinions which his Grace countenanced There was a great Scholar who asked one of the Canterburian faction what he thought of the Primate of Irelands treatise concerning Christs Incarnation in which he demonstrates that the Word was made flesh and that therefore Christ is God and man the Canterburian answered that indeed there was as much produced upon that argument as could be said upon it but under correction saith he I conceive the Primate hath not cleared the point which he undertook to prove The men of this strain when they were at their height began to vary their expressions they called Christ their great Master or our Lord and Master at the highest so that you could scarce tell by their prayers whether they did respect Christ or their Patrone most for the Chaplaines styled their Patrone their very good Lord and Master Dr. Taylour in his epistle Dedicatory to the Arch-Bishop before the sermon on the Gun powder treason seems to affect that expression of calling Christ our great Master the Socinians will beare them company in such generall expressions and some have thought of composing such a Liturgy as might give no offence to Arminians or Socinians that would be an inoffensive Liturgy indeed and they may doe well to enlarge their Charity and make their Liturgy inoffensive to the Turkes and Jewes as well as the Socinians for any Liturgy which will please one that is a thorow Socinian will please Turkes and Jewes also if it be but warily composed and they will keep themselves in such generall expressions as some doe too much affect But of all that I have met with none comes neer Mr Webberly a Batchelour of Divinity and fellow of Lincolne Colledge who hath translated a Socinian book into English for the benefit of this Nation and prepared it for the presse Now they think they may own the businesse they dare appeare in their proper colours and blaspheme Christ in plaine English But because some parts of Socinianisme strike directly at the superstition of Rome so highly extolled in our dayes and at the pompe of the Clergy which must be maintained by the sword for what care they though England swimme in bloud so they swimme in wealth and pleasure therefore Mr. Webberly tells us very honestly that Socinianisme was to be corrected and chastised with respect to the nature of our climate What need I adde more take all in a word There are some mysterious parts of Socinianisme that se●m Rationall these I think in good earnest the men of this age have too much doted on Secondly some parts of Socinianisme they qualify and chastise a little because there is a little too much quick-silver in them Thirdly some parts they doe totally reject because they thwart the maine Designe Fourthly some parts of Socinianisme are instilled into the people that they might be made a meer prey to their Courts in times of Peace and to their army in times of warre Mr. Webberly for instance may be so farre irrationall as to be of the Councell of warre which no strict Socinian would allow but then Mr. Webberly would teach the people that they must not defend their possessions against invading enemies by force of Armes because God hath not given his people any earthly possessions by Covenant under the Gospell as he did under the Law Surely they have heard of Iulian who boxed the Christians on one eare and bid them turn the other eare that they might be boxed on both sides in obedience to their Masters command CHAP. V. Shewes that the famous Atheists Anabaptists and Sectaries so much complained of have been raised or encouraged by the doctrines and practises of the Arminian Socinian and