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divine_a tradition_n and_o thâ—n_o the_o jesuitâ—_n have_v not_o perform_v what_o he_o promise_v in_o handle_v tradition_n no_o not_o in_o his_o endeavour_n neither_o will_v he_o ever_o do_v if_o â—is_n own_o guess_n aright_o the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o he_o will_v forbear_v to_o urge_v any_o more_o â—hâ—â—_n other_o injury_n whereby_o he_o charge_v we_o with_o forge_v coin_v and_o clip_n the_o â—â—nâ—ments_n of_o antiquity_n 93_o antiquity_n reply_v pag._n 93_o and_o do_v you_o not_o think_v it_o have_v be_v better_o his_o forbearance_n have_v begin_v before_o but_o let_v we_o examine_v this_o injury_n and_o it_o will_v not_o be_v any_o great_a trouble_n to_o make_v the_o jesuite_n impudent_a or_o a_o confessionary_a of_o such_o fraud_n and_o first_o to_o begin_v with_o the_o first_o of_o forge_v and_o coin_v not_o to_o name_v all_o this_o be_v to_o much_o but_o some_o of_o most_o kind_n first_o dâ—â—ation_n as_o constantives_n for_o his_o temporal_a patrimony_n â—06_n patrimony_n see_v before_o â—_o â—05_n â—06_n second_o counsel_n as_o conciliuâ—_fw-la siâ—â—â—â—â—an_n &_o 〈◊〉_d suâ—_n sylvestrâ—_n 20â—_n sylvestrâ—_n see_v before_o p_o 203._o 204._o 20â—_n three_o canon_n as_o those_o of_o nice_a pretend_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o arabian_a to_o the_o whole_a world_n â—73_n world_n see_v before_o p._n â—73_n epistle_n as_o your_o deâ—â—â—â—â—ls_n never_o hear_v of_o in_o antiquity_n but_o invent_v by_o your_o merchant_n when_o rome_n have_v forget_v to_o speak_v in_o her_o ancient_a elegancy_n 202_o elegancy_n see_v before_o p_o 202_o beside_o false_a title_n have_v be_v give_v to_o book_n but_o by_o who_o for_o who_o benefit_n you_o can_v judge_v if_o this_o be_v not_o forge_v and_o â—â—yâ—ing_v charge_n â—s_v with_o falsehood_n but_o if_o i_o shall_v at_o large_a prosecute_v this_o it_o will_v trouble_v patience_n itself_o to_o attend_v beside_o be_v it_o not_o forge_v and_o coin_v to_o cite_v from_o a_o father_n that_o which_o he_o never_o spâ—keâ—_n as_o your_o aquinas_n have_v doâ—e_n from_o s._n cyrillâ—_n thesaurus_fw-la in_o the_o point_n of_o supremacy_n a_o evidence_n applaud_v beyond_o all_o other_o for_o say_v canus_n all_o other_o anthor_n never_o
what_o fetch_v they_o use_v to_o drag_v the_o people_n to_o their_o opinion_n so_o they_o may_v sway_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o tyrannize_v with_o their_o antichristian_a sceptre_n over_o the_o kingdom_n of_o saint_n the_o jesuite_n before_o he_o leave_v off_o will_v fain_o say_v something_o for_o himself_o and_o cause_n as_o first_o that_o wheresoever_o the_o father_n do_v profess_v they_o in_o their_o work_n they_o never_o tell_v he_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o for_o opinion_n rather_o than_o for_o point_n of_o faith_n 95_o faith_n reply_v pag._n 95_o which_o we_o acknowledge_v for_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o such_o profession_n in_o the_o father_n yet_o i_o think_v and_o upon_o good_a ground_n if_o they_o have_v know_v of_o any_o such_o fundamental_a point_n some_o will_v have_v declare_v they_o to_o the_o church_n second_o he_o confess_v that_o some_o of_o the_o say_a point_n be_v not_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n to_o be_v necessary_a and_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n yet_o they_o be_v ever_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n from_o the_o beginning_n and_o without_o doubt_n be_v hold_v for_o such_o at_o least_o implicit_o and_o virtual_o by_o the_o holy_a father_n howsoever_o our_o answerer_n upon_o no_o better_a ground_n than_o his_o divine_a humour_n do_v give_v out_o the_o contrary_n 9â—_n contrary_n reply_v pag._n 9â—_n sure_o it_o can_v not_o be_v faith_n at_o any_o time_n if_o not_o then_o for_o to_o the_o church_n long_o before_o be_v declare_v the_o whole_a counsel_n of_o god_n so_o that_o indeed_o it_o may_v be_v of_o the_o popish_a faith_n which_o may_v be_v declare_v 1500._o year_n after_o christ_n but_o not_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o be_v once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o if_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v that_o of_o the_o foundation_n which_o be_v never_o so_o declare_v or_o repute_v till_o our_o last_o time_n let_v he_o prove_v ex_fw-la re_fw-mi â—atâ—_n that_o it_o be_v so_o and_o not_o think_v himself_o able_a by_o his_o without_o doubt_n to_o persuade_v we_o that_o the_o father_n hold_v those_o point_n virtual_o and_o implicit_o â—â—_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o then_o he_o do_v something_o for_o if_o the_o bare_a act_n of_o declaration_n may_v make_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n with_o his_o â—â—â—ncell_n may_v make_v we_o a_o other_o belief_n and_o turn_v christianity_n into_o a_o new_a mould_n a_o thing_n much_o desire_v if_o more_o than_o probable_a ground_n do_v not_o deceive_v we_o but_o if_o these_o point_n be_v decree_v in_o aftertime_n from_o some_o inward_a and_o virtual_a substance_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v inherent_a in_o they_o let_v he_o declare_v it_o and_o by_o some_o mean_n or_o other_o help_v our_o eye-fight_a that_o can_v perceive_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o the_o point_n here_o mention_v and_o whereas_o the_o wizard_n think_v every_o man_n of_o his_o own_o profession_n he_o be_v deceive_v his_o conjecture_n be_v far_o from_o the_o ground_n that_o be_v follow_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o divine_a to_o express_v a_o truth_n any_o will_v apprehend_v that_o know_v that_o divine_a have_v relation_n to_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o not_o to_o thing_n past_a but_o what_o he_o promise_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n we_o will_v examine_v whereby_o i_o think_v we_o may_v come_v to_o more_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o their_o catholic_a frâ—â—des_n though_o not_o of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o will_v persuade_v sect_n xii_o the_o jesuite_n have_v travail_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o certain_a point_n from_o the_o father_n testimony_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o fear_v to_o be_v censure_v by_o lyrinensis_n who_o say_v that_o the_o aunciâ—â—t_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v with_o great_a care_n to_o be_v sâ—ught_v and_o follow_v by_o we_o not_o in_o every_o petty_a question_n belong_v to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o one_o 〈◊〉_d at_o least_o principal_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n 26._o faith_n see_v the_o testimony_n urge_v by_o the_o most_o reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_v pag._n 26._o do_v in_o this_o section_n inquire_v hâ—â—â—_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v discern_v from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n 96._o religion_n reply_v p._n 96._o and_o declare_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o so_o do_v forasmuch_o say_v he_o â—â—_o our_o answerer_n affirm_v that_o all_o the_o point_n by_o i_o lay_v down_o in_o my_o demand_n be_v not_o chief_a article_n i_o think_v it_o meet_v by_o this_o disputation_n to_o disproove_v he_o herein_o and_o to_o shâ—w_v that_o they_o be_v all_o such_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n at_o the_o obstinate_a denial_n of_o any_o of_o they_o deprive_v a_o man_n of_o all_o true_a belief_n and_o make_v he_o a_o faithless_a heretic_n for_o performance_n whereof_o we_o be_v first_o to_o inquire_v which_o be_v the_o way_n or_o certain_a rule_n to_o know_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n and_o that_o be_v find_v out_o by_o square_n the_o say_v point_n thereby_o we_o shall_v easy_o understand_v whether_o they_o be_v thief_n article_n yea_o or_o â—â—_o 96_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n 96_o now_o in_o this_o passage_n the_o jesuite_n meet_v not_o at_o all_o with_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n observation_n for_o he_o deny_v all_o the_o point_v propound_v by_o the_o jesuite_n to_o be_v chief_a article_n in_o regard_n of_o those_o which_o be_v more_o necessary_a &_o fundamental_a which_o only_o be_v to_o be_v inquire_v of_o by_o consent_n of_o father_n in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n â—_o judgement_n see_v above_o light_v â—_o and_o not_o because_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a for_o if_o he_o shall_v conceit_n they_o such_o why_o shall_v he_o style_v you_o heretic_n for_o your_o false_a declaration_n concern_v they_o nay_o why_o shall_v there_o be_v controversy_n at_o all_o betwixt_o we_o second_o all_o that_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v here_o satisfi_v not_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n in_o show_n only_o for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o these_o point_n be_v according_a to_o his_o rule_n declare_v by_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n for_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n before_o those_o father_n time_n which_o he_o urge_v in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n all_o his_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n in_o defence_n of_o they_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n and_o i_o will_v willing_o see_v where_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n by_o her_o declaration_n have_v define_v these_o point_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la before_o the_o age_n of_o those_o father_n which_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o but_o notwithstanding_o he_o go_v a_o by_o way_n and_o follow_v not_o his_o answerer_n yet_o i_o will_v not_o leave_v he_o but_o take_v some_o brief_a view_v of_o this_o discourse_n also_o and_o first_o he_o except_v against_o the_o scripture_n these_o must_v be_v no_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discern_v chief_a article_n of_o faith_n from_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n nay_o to_o make_v scripture_n the_o rule_n be_v but_o to_o shake_v hand_n with_o all_o condemn_a heretic_n 96_o reply_v pag._n 96_o and_o this_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o have_v already_o discover_v but_o fear_v lest_o it_o be_v in_o conceit_n and_o opinion_n only_o he_o be_v here_o resolve_v further_a to_o prosecute_v the_o same_o and_o lay_v this_o for_o his_o ground_n there_o be_v many_o confess_v point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n express_v or_o as_o much_o as_o once_o touch_v by_o the_o scripture_n ibid._n scripture_n ibid._n sure_o they_o be_v of_o the_o popish_a creed_n or_o not_o at_o all_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n teach_v none_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n praedicaverant_a scripture_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la scripto_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11_o dico_fw-la illa_fw-la omne_fw-la scripta_fw-la esse_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnibus_fw-la necessaria_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la ipsi_fw-la palam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la vulgo_fw-la praedicaverant_a yet_o he_o will_v prove_v his_o proposition_n from_o augustine_n the_o apostle_n true_o say_v s._n augustine_n as_o he_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n have_v not_o deliver_v any_o thing_n concern_v this_o point_n but_o that_o custom_n which_o be_v allege_v against_o cyprian_a ought_v to_o be_v hold_v to_o have_v be_v derive_v from_o their_o tradition_n 96_o tradition_n reply_v pag._n 96_o but_o what_o point_n be_v this_o rebaptization_n a_o point_n as_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n as_o rome_n from_o heaven_n that_o only_o concern_v the_o manner_n &_o forâ—â—_n of_o 〈◊〉_d baptism_n what_o point_v else_o
find_v this_o judge_n that_o represent_v the_o magistrate_n betwixt_o the_o scripture_n and_o we_o and_o sure_o if_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n do_v interpret_v the_o scripture_n as_o he_o deliver_v they_o holy_a man_n speak_v as_o the_o spirit_n give_v they_o utterance_n i_o have_v say_v sufficient_a before_o to_o declare_v that_o your_o pope_n be_v no_o such_o manner_n of_o man_n and_o many_o of_o your_o own_o exclude_v the_o pope_n from_o this_o sovereign_a power_n of_o interpret_n the_o scripture_n veneta_n scripture_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr council_n â—â—câ—_n l._n â—_o c._n 14._o concilium_fw-la esse_fw-la supra_fw-la pontificâ—m_fw-la asscrit_fw-fr candinalis_fw-la cameracensis_n joannes_n gerson_n jacobus_n almainus_a nicolaus_n cusanus_fw-la panâ—â—mitaâ—us_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la florentinus_n abulensis_n et_fw-la alij_fw-la alij_fw-la vero_fw-la volâ—nâ—_n papam_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la dux_n venetiarum_fw-la in_fw-la republ_n veneta_n 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jesus_n christ_n may_v be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o believe_v who_o be_v it_o that_o accuse_v who_o be_v it_o that_o condemn_v but_o this_o judge_n io._n v._o fourteen_o the_o law_n the_o word_n be_v the_o judge_n absolute_a and_o infallible_a a_o ministerial_a duty_n only_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n io._n xii_o xlviii_o neither_o be_v papist_n able_a to_o cast_n of_o this_o bless_a samuel_n from_o judge_v israel_n and_o to_o erect_v up_o their_o own_o saul_n but_o by_o blaspheme_v the_o word_n of_o truth_n charge_v it_o with_o imperfection_n obscurity_n and_o what_o not_o that_o may_v deprive_v it_o of_o its_o power_n so_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o wrangle_n of_o heretic_n to_o plead_v for_o the_o papal_a headship_n and_o this_o be_v as_o vain_a as_o the_o rest_n for_o unless_o he_o may_v irresisteable_o enlighten_v not_o only_o the_o understanding_n but_o also_o the_o will_n he_o can_v never_o compound_v and_o silence_n controversy_n in_o regard_n his_o word_n let_v they_o make_v they_o divine_a or_o otherwise_o be_v as_o subject_a to_o misinterpretation_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o may_v with_o more_o facility_n be_v pervert_v but_o if_o we_o do_v but_o observe_v we_o may_v perceive_v how_o they_o cast_v off_o the_o absolute_a direction_n of_o truth_n be_v involve_v in_o error_n and_o blindness_n for_o by_o make_v their_o church_n the_o only_a teacher_n &_o determiner_n of_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n they_o tie_v themselves_o to_o receive_v no_o other_o light_n from_o the_o scripture_n than_o lucifer_n their_o pope_n for_o he_o be_v their_o church_n will_v convey_v unto_o they_o and_o howsoever_o they_o boast_v of_o the_o father_n of_o counsel_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o when_o all_o come_v to_o all_o their_o judge_n of_o controversy_n be_v only_o their_o roman_a bishop_n declarantem_fw-la bishop_n grâ—gor_n valent_n tom_fw-mi 3._o commentar_n in_o thomam_fw-la disp_n 1._o quaest_n 1._o punct_a 1._o cùm_fw-la dicimus_fw-la propositionem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la esse_fw-la conditionem_fw-la necessariam_fw-la ad_fw-la assensum_fw-la fidei_fw-la â—_o nomine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la ejus_fw-la caput_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la pierce_v vel_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la concilio_n ex_fw-la praedicta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la propositiones_fw-la fidei_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la declarantem_fw-la either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n est_fw-la council_n ibid._n punct_a 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la quando_fw-la oriantur_fw-la controversiae_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la definiendis_fw-la à _fw-la veritaâ—â—_n aberrare_fw-la haec_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la ad_fw-la definiendum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la quip_n qui_fw-la sine_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la possunt_fw-la errare_fw-la singuli_fw-la neque_fw-la est_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la omninò_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la frustra_fw-la enim_fw-la data_fw-la illis_fw-la esset_fw-la cùm_fw-la â—ieri_fw-la vix_fw-la possit_fw-la in_fw-la fidei_fw-la causis_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la illis_fw-la sigillatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la dicatur_fw-la sed_fw-la residet_fw-la summa_fw-la illa_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la vicario_n sâ—â—â—â—o_fw-la pontifice_fw-la sive_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilio_n sive_fw-la absque_fw-la concilio_n res_fw-la fidei_fw-la definite_a velit_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 3._o summus_n pontifex_fw-la cùm_fw-la to_o tam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la docet_fw-la in_o his_o quae_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la pertinent_a nullo_n easu_fw-la errare_fw-la potest_fw-la constat_fw-la generalia_fw-la concilia_fw-la saepè_fw-la errasse_fw-la quando_fw-la caruâ—â—unt_fw-la summi_fw-la pontificis_fw-la suffragio_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la apparet_fw-la totam_fw-la firmitatem_fw-la concilioâ—um_fw-la legitimorum_fw-la esse_fw-la â_fw-la pontifice_fw-la non_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la pontifice_fw-la partim_fw-la à _fw-la concilio_n staplâ—ton_n relect_v prinâ—_n doctr_n contr_n 6._o quaest_n 3._o in_o explicatar_n 5._o potestas_fw-la &_o infallibilitâ—s_fw-la papalis_fw-la est_fw-la potestas_fw-la &_o gratia_fw-la personalis_fw-la personae_fw-la petri_n &_o successorum_fw-la ejus_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la data_fw-la majoritas_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o maturitas_fw-la judicij_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la scientia_fw-la rerum_fw-la sacrarum_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la concilium_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o theologoâ—â—m_fw-la collegium_fw-la imò_fw-la unus_fw-la aliquis_fw-la theologus_fw-la pontificem_fw-la facilè_fw-la superabit_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la de_fw-la judicio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o determinationâ—_n sensus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quem_fw-la credere_fw-la oporteat_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la concilium_fw-la supra_fw-la papam_fw-la sed_fw-la unus_fw-la papa_n petri_n successor_n cvi_fw-la uni_fw-la christus_fw-la indeâ—ectibâ—hâ—atem_fw-la fidei_fw-la impetravit_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la it_o matter_n not_o so_o likewise_o they_o be_v delude_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n in_o give_v the_o power_n they_o do_v to_o this_o external_a judge_n for_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v the_o judge_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discover_v which_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o not_o the_o manner_n how_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o whatsoever_o he_o say_v be_v faith_n must_v needs_o be_v so_o let_v it_o be_v with_o a_o council_n or_o without_o other_o make_v the_o pope_n authority_n equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n interpretando_fw-la scripture_n christophorus_n de_fw-fr sacrobosâ—o_n defence_n decr._n triden_n part_v â—_o c._n 6._o dico_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n authoritatem_fw-la parem_fw-la esse_fw-la authoritad_v scripturae_fw-la &_o ratio_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la unuâ—_n &_o idem_fw-la deus_fw-la qui_fw-la regebat_fw-la apostolos_fw-la &_o prophetas_fw-la ne_fw-la eâ—â—arent_fw-la scribendo_fw-la diright_a ecclesiam_fw-la ne_fw-la labatur_fw-la in_o interpretando_fw-la to_o the_o uâ—yce_n of_o god._n neither_o will_v they_o have_v their_o pope_n or_o church_n only_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o also_o somewhat_o superior_a thereunto_o scripturaâ—um_fw-la thereunto_o albert._n pighius_fw-la l._n 1._o hierat_fw-la eccles_n c._n 2._o dicit_fw-la non_fw-la soâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la inferâ—orem_fw-la non_fw-la solâ—m_fw-la parem_fw-la imo_fw-la quodammodò_fw-la â—â—periorem_fw-la &_o â—â—otiorem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la autoritatem_fw-la autoritaâ—â—_n scripturaâ—um_fw-la for_o the_o church_n be_v a_o prophet_n est_fw-la prophet_n defensor_fw-la johannis_n pistorâ—â—_n
falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o wheresoever_o judge_n or_o judgement_n be_v express_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o he_o the_o second_o be_v out_o of_o mat._n xi_o and_o the_o 18._o hâ—ll_o gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o ibid._n she_o reply_v ibid._n we_o confess_v that_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n but_o we_o say_v this_o church_n be_v neither_o the_o pope_n naked_a nor_o roman_a as_o have_v in_o many_o place_n be_v show_v yet_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v to_o what_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v here_o produce_v the_o three_o place_n be_v mat._n xviii_o and_o the_o â—7_n hâ—e_n that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o aâ—_n a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n ibid._n publican_n reply_v ibid._n if_o a_o infallible_a judge_n be_v here_o point_v out_o than_o all_o these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infallible_a and_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o dâ—c_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la have_v relation_n to_o particular_a church_n not_o to_o the_o catholic_a second_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n in_o criminal_a cause_n if_o this_o place_n point_v out_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n when_o as_o this_o infallibility_n be_v deny_v not_o only_o your_o own_o counsel_n but_o your_o pope_n also_o 3_o if_o the_o church_n judgement_n must_v be_v infallible_a because_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o church_n how_o can_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v from_o this_o privilege_n when_o the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o obey_v and_o follow_v they_o heb._n xiii_o 17._o his_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n four_o ii_o and_o 14._o god_n have_v place_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v â—â—_o more_o little_a child_n â—aâ—oring_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n ibâ—â—_n doctrine_n reply_v ibâ—â—_n i_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o that_o this_o text_n make_v against_o his_o judge_n his_o monarch_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v take_v this_o with_o he_o first_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n have_v apostles_n &_o prophet_n their_o testimony_n be_v divine_a and_o can_v infallible_o direct_v second_o although_o the_o â—aâ—tors_n now_o be_v mean_n ordain_v by_o god_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o little_a child_n waver_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v infallible_a judge_n see_v the_o argument_n may_v as_o well_o hold_v of_o each_o as_o of_o all_o who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v his_o last_o be_v 1._o tim._n 2._o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n ibid._n truth_n reply_v ibid._n what_o therefore_o the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n this_o follow_v not_o for_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n if_o we_o believe_v popish_a interpreter_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v how_o then_o can_v he_o be_v the_o church_n infallible_o to_o direct_v the_o foundation_n sure_o differ_v from_o the_o roof_n the_o church_n that_o be_v build_v from_o the_o rock_n that_o she_o be_v build_v upon_o second_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o we_o envy_v not_o the_o privilege_n which_o god_n have_v give_v his_o church_n nay_o he_o be_v no_o member_n of_o she_o that_o shall_v not_o reverence_v she_o with_o obedience_n and_o therefore_o we_o acknowledge_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n if_o contain_v the_o apostle_n absolute_o perfect_o if_o without_o the_o apostle_n we_o deny_v not_o her_o counsel_n but_o with_o all_o obedience_n embrace_v they_o if_o she_o command_v as_o she_o be_v limit_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o we_o see_v this_o place_n be_v more_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v literal_o than_o rome_n and_o yet_o experience_n have_v persuade_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o infallibility_n there_o further_o than_o this_o some_o of_o your_o own_o dare_v not_o go_v but_o make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o they_o say_v be_v infallible_a but_o the_o other_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v collegum_fw-la deceive_v panorm_a in_o decret_a de_fw-fr senten_a excom_n cap._n 28._o judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la veritati_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la fallit_fw-la nec_fw-la fallitur_fw-la semper_fw-la innititur_fw-la judicium_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sequitur_fw-la opinionem_fw-la quae_fw-la sâ—pè_fw-la fallit_fw-la &_o fallitur_fw-la dry_a de_fw-fr dog_n ecclesl_n 2._o p._n 58._o generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la papae_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la â—â—_o scripture_n propheticis_fw-la intelligendis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quantae_fw-la fuerit_fw-la olim_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la collegum_fw-la for_o ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n that_o s._n basil_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v take_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o proper_a understanding_n but_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n 99_o father_n reply_v p._n 99_o the_o jesuite_n point_v not_o out_o the_o place_n if_o he_o do_v i_o think_v little_a will_v appear_v for_o his_o purpose_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n not_o the_o discretion_n of_o a_o doctor_n and_o who_o doubt_n but_o any_o wise_a interpreter_n will_v use_v all_o mean_n that_o may_v inform_v he_o to_o perform_v his_o work_n but_o let_v ruffian_n pass_v augustine_n make_v a_o outcry_n and_o do_v not_o s._n augustine_n cry_v out_o say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o truth_n repose_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o who_o say_v otherwise_o he_o that_o shall_v think_v that_o truth_n be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o church_n think_v amiss_o but_o to_o conclude_v from_o hence_o the_o church_n the_o roman_a church_n the_o roman_a pope_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n or_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v inconsequent_a neither_o do_v that_o place_n of_o augustine_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o the_o xth_o section_n evangeliâ—_n non_fw-fr credereâ—â—_n nisi_fw-la i_o catholica_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commoveret_fw-la authoritus_fw-la contain_v any_o thing_n to_o enforce_v this_o for_o many_o thing_n may_v move_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o be_v not_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n miracle_n do_v this_o work_n in_o many_o but_o this_o i_o hope_v be_v far_o from_o your_o rule_n what_o be_v urge_v from_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n have_v be_v full_o answer_v his_o note_n from_o the_o geneva_n bible_n prove_v nothing_o if_o he_o find_v this_o judge_n at_o geneva_n he_o speed_v well_o in_o these_o word_n i_o fear_v he_o can_v be_v espy_v and_o now_o have_v little_a or_o nothing_o he_o begin_v his_o peroration_n behold_v here_o gentle_a reader_n how_o although_o the_o article_n
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〈◊〉_d unto_o it_o neither_o will_v we_o â—ver_v 〈◊〉_d to_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o assurance_n this_o may_v 〈◊〉_d that_o unless_o 〈…〉_o something_o which_o 〈…〉_o we_o can_v not_o 〈◊〉_d we_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o scripture_n iâ—_n a_o 〈◊〉_d and_o holy_a rule_n of_o 〈◊〉_d this_o place_n of_o the_o learned_a hooker_n presuppose_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o historical_a and_o what_o 〈◊〉_d this_o against_o the_o 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n or_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d umpire_n and_o sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d to_o square_v our_o â—aith_n and_o action_n by_o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o heaven_n cover_v all_o thing_n and_o yet_o cover_v not_o themselves_o and_o what_o may_v hinder_v the_o scripture_n in_o like_a 〈◊〉_d to_o teach_v all_o 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o point_v out_o themselves_o s._n augustine_n word_n be_v in_o every_o papist_n mouth_n viz._n that_o he_o will_v not_o beleâ—ve_v the_o scripture_n unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v move_v he_o thereunto_o and_o yet_o he_o 〈◊〉_d all_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d â—aith_n and_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v 〈…〉_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—cam_fw-la but_o this_o necessary_a point_n of_o â—aith_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d oâ—_n 〈…〉_o in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o the_o jesuite_n abuse_v his_o 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o church_n testimony_n hare_o and_o alone_o begot_v but_o opinion_n in_o hooker_n judgement_n for_o say_v â—o_o the_o more_o we_o bâ—stow_v 〈…〉_o read_n and_o learn_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o more_o we_o 〈…〉_o thing_n it_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—th_v answer_v 〈◊〉_d receive_v 〈…〉_o that_o the_o 〈…〉_o with_o â—â—_o before_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—w_o much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d when_o the_o very_a thing_n 〈◊〉_d minister_v further_a 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o hooker_n word_v make_v â—â—thing_v against_o the_o 〈…〉_o for_o 〈…〉_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o way_n by_o 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o convince_v to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o â—_o â—_o lib._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d â—_o god_n 〈…〉_o and_o thus_o god_n 〈…〉_o give_v witness_n to_o his_o word_n do_v not_o take_v 〈…〉_o sâ—â—â—â—ciency_n to_o declare_v who_o word_n they_o be_v and_o from_o what_o 〈◊〉_d they_o 〈◊〉_d any_o more_o than_o it_o do_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o their_o rule_n which_o consist_v of_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n also_o whereby_o the_o 〈◊〉_d may_v see_v he_o have_v produce_v this_o worthy_a author_n to_o no_o advantage_n â—â—_o be_v plain_a that_o although_o there_o be_v something_o else_o to_o prepare_v the_o way_n objecâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sid_n form_n dispâ—_n 3._o sect_n 12._o n._n â—â—â—_o admitti_fw-la potest_fw-la ex_fw-la humâ—na_fw-la authoritate_fw-la geâ—â—rari_fw-la quandam_fw-la fidem_fw-la humanam_fw-la praeviaâ—â—_n ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la â—â—â—quam_fw-la 〈…〉_o well_fw-mi rationem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ejus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tanquam_fw-la â—â—â—ditionem_fw-la &_o applicative_o objecâ—â—â—_n yet_o the_o mind_n be_v altogether_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o â—â—ght_n oâ—_n the_o scripture_n themselves_o the_o church_n point_v 〈◊〉_d ouâ—_n and_o they_o themselves_o 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o scripture_n remain_v the_o only_a 〈◊〉_d upon_o which_o a_o man_n 〈◊〉_d his_o faith_n for_o any_o thing_n the_o jesuite_n have_v pickâ—â—_n out_o of_o this_o learned_a divine_a â—_o â—_o d._n field_n 〈◊〉_d his_o appendix_n to_o the_o book_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d par_fw-fr 2._o §._o â—_o 〈…〉_o will_v 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o any_o way_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o 〈…〉_o i_o have_v in_o my_o epistle_n 〈◊〉_d that_o all_o mâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d careful_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v the_o true_a 〈◊〉_d that_o so_o they_o may_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d follow_v her_o direction_n and_o rest_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d charge_v â—â—_o that_o â—â—_o my_o four_o 〈◊〉_d follow_v i_o 〈◊〉_d she_o of_o almost_o all_o such_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—_n i_o 〈◊〉_d
of_o scripture_n as_o the_o devil_n use_v they_o in_o his_o allegation_n against_o our_o saviour_n or_o pope_n in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d corrupt_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o text_n yet_o that_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a sufficient_a rule_n be_v so_o general_o a_o receive_a truth_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n deny_v the_o same_o for_o although_o many_o of_o they_o deny_v some_o scripture_n yet_o they_o confess_v those_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v divine_a to_o be_v deliver_v to_o the_o church_n to_o reveal_v god_n will_n and_o to_o determine_v all_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n and_o controversy_n of_o faith_n by_o and_o whereas_o this_o wise_a of_o his_o brethren_n will_v persuade_v that_o we_o to_o cloak_n our_o error_n with_o a_o show_n of_o piety_n will_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o any_o judge_n whatsoever_o but_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n 32_o reply_v pag._n 32_o the_o jesuite_n be_v here_o in_o a_o mist_n and_o see_v nothing_o for_o we_o refuse_v not_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o whether_o father_n counsel_n or_o consent_v of_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o judge_v we_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n but_o to_o be_v try_v without_o the_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v try_v in_o the_o dark_a tertullian_n call_v heretic_n flyer_n from_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n scripturarum_fw-la tertullian_n de_fw-fr resurrect_v carnis_fw-la c._n 47._o qualiter_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la lucifugae_fw-la isti_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la &_o in_o his_o prescription_n against_o heretic_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o have_v a_o faith_n without_o scripture_n that_o they_o may_v believe_v against_o scripture_n scripturas_fw-la scripture_n idem_fw-la prescript_n con_fw-mi haeret_fw-la cap._n 23._o credunt_fw-la fine_a scripture_n ut_fw-la credant_fw-la adversus_fw-la scripturas_fw-la and_o what_o the_o jesuite_n will_v make_v the_o note_n of_o a_o heretic_n the_o contrary_a thereof_o do_v point_v they_o out_o in_o old_a ireâ—â—us_a his_o time_n heretic_n be_v then_o know_v by_o the_o path_n wherein_o our_o jesuite_n tread_v in_o rail_v &_o accuse_v the_o scripture_n when_o they_o be_v convince_v by_o they_o as_o if_o they_o be_v not_o upright_o nor_o of_o authority_n and_o because_o they_o be_v ambigâ—â—â—â—_n and_o can_v afford_v the_o 〈◊〉_d to_o they_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n 〈◊〉_d tradition_n irâ—â—eus_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o haeretici_fw-la cùm_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n arguuntur_fw-la in_fw-la accusationem_fw-la convertuntur_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la quasi_fw-la non_fw-la reâ—â—e_fw-la habeant_fw-la neque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ex_fw-la authoritate_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la variae_fw-la sunt_fw-la dictas_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la invenire_fw-la veritas_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o see_v heretic_n and_o their_o practice_n they_o hate_v the_o scripture_n because_o they_o bear_v witness_n of_o they_o that_o both_o their_o work_n and_o doctrine_n be_v unsound_a and_o evil_a now_o as_o if_o he_o will_v make_v it_o appear_v to_o every_o weak_a eye_n that_o we_o submit_v to_o scripture_n as_o the_o only_a rock_n whereon_o we_o build_v our_o faith_n do_v thereby_o anoyde_v all_o trial_n he_o prosecute_v this_o with_o a_o simile_n for_o we_o see_v say_v he_o in_o the_o temporal_a court_n beside_o the_o law_n there_o must_v 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o judge_n who_o must_v declare_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o law_n and_o pronounce_v his_o sentence_n in_o matter_n of_o controversy_n according_a to_o the_o same_o â—â—_o same_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o so_o likewise_o the_o same_o form_n must_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o spiritual_a regency_n of_o the_o conscience_n if_o credit_n may_v be_v give_v to_o this_o jesuite_n concern_v the_o write_a law_n of_o god_n if_o all_o this_o be_v true_a what_o make_v it_o against_o the_o sole_a rule_n of_o scripture_n judge_n do_v not_o ius_n dare_v but_o dicere_fw-la and_o if_o they_o do_v attempt_v more_o they_o usurp_v which_o your_o control_a judge_n do_v for_o he_o will_v declare_v what_o he_o please_v for_o scripture_n and_o will_v prove_v what_o he_o please_v by_o they_o nay_o our_o jesuite_n himself_n can_v prove_v doctrine_n by_o scripture_n that_o be_v never_o know_v but_o by_o tradition_n x_o tradition_n reply_v sect._n x_o if_o a_o temporal_a judge_n trench_n against_o the_o law_n of_o man_n as_o your_o infallible_a guide_n do_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n his_o sentence_n may_v be_v disannul_v revoke_v and_o the_o judge_n himself_o be_v not_o free_a from_o reproof_n and_o we_o know_v that_o the_o maker_n of_o a_o law_n may_v interpret_v it_o or_o give_v power_n to_o other_o to_o perform_v the_o same_o but_o god_n law_n be_v not_o make_v by_o man_n neither_o have_v man_n receive_v power_n to_o be_v such_o a_o infallible_a judge_n ecclesia_fw-la judge_n august_n confess_v l._n 13._o c._n 23._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la oportet_fw-la de_fw-la tam_fw-la sublimi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la judicaâ—_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la ipso_fw-la libro_fw-la tuo_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la quod_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la lucet_fw-la quoniam_fw-la submittimus_fw-la ci_fw-fr nostrum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la certumque_fw-la habemus_fw-la etiam_fw-la quod_fw-la clausium_fw-la est_fw-la aspectiâ—â—â—_n nostris_fw-la rectè_fw-la veraciterque_fw-la dictum_fw-la esse_fw-la siceâ—â—â—_n homo_fw-la licet_fw-la jam_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la &_o renouâ—â—â—â—_n in_o 〈◊〉_d dei_fw-la secundùm_fw-la imaginem_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la creavit_fw-la eum_fw-la factor_n tamen_fw-la legis_fw-la debet_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la judex_fw-la de_fw-fr he_o enim_fw-la judicare_fw-la nunc_fw-la dicitur_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la et_fw-la corrigendi_fw-la potestaâ—â—m_fw-la habet_fw-la clemens_n alexandrinus_n storm_n l._n 7_o non_fw-la enim_fw-la absolutè_fw-la eâ—â—â—ciantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la fidem_fw-la habucrimus_fw-la quibus_fw-la licet_fw-la etiam_fw-la câ—â—tiare_fw-la contrarium_fw-la sed_fw-la oporteâ—etiam_fw-la probare_fw-la quod_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la expectamus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la quod_fw-la datur_fw-la ab_fw-la hominibus_fw-la sed_fw-la voce_fw-la domini_fw-la probamus_fw-la quod_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la magis_fw-la side_n digâ—â—_n quam_fw-la quaevis_fw-la demonstrationes_fw-la ibid._n hâc_fw-la ergo_fw-la ratione_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la pij_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la divinis_fw-la praeceptis_fw-la non_fw-la acquiescant_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la spiritui_fw-la sancto_fw-la quia_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la ex_fw-la scipso_fw-la fidelis_fw-la dominicâ_fw-la scripturâ_fw-la &_o voce_fw-la est_fw-la fide_fw-la dignus_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la dominum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la hominum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la ipsa_fw-la autem_fw-la judice_fw-la utimur_fw-la ad_fw-la res_fw-la inâ—_n niendas_fw-la wadding_n legate_n philippi_n 3._o etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d multa_fw-la sunt_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la quae_fw-la reâ—â—agantibus_fw-la aut_fw-la circâ—ca_fw-la 〈◊〉_d doctor_n 〈◊〉_d sunt_fw-la à _fw-la pontificibus_fw-la nec_fw-la enim_fw-la parvum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la aggerem_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la sapientiam_fw-la et_fw-la spiritum_fw-la pro_fw-la regula_fw-la etrectore_fw-la veritatis_fw-la habet_fw-la â—â—â—cta_fw-la haec_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la falli_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la mater_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o which_o god_n have_v leave_v his_o church_n be_v the_o bless_a spirit_n in_o his_o wordâ—_n â—_z which_o christ_n have_v promise_v shall_v direct_v his_o own_o in_o all_o at_o least_o fundamental_a truth_n and_o what_o if_o some_o desperate_a man_n follow_v deceitful_a guide_n must_v this_o of_o necessity_n make_v the_o true_a guide_n of_o his_o spirit_n contemptible_a or_o must_v the_o scripture_n be_v uncertain_a in_o their_o direction_n because_o we_o have_v man_n that_o will_v not_o see_v 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