Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

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scripture_n	article_n	faith_n	tradition_n	3,058	5	9.0436	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03883	A treatise concerning the ground of faith. VVritten in Latin, by the reuerend Father Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English, by I.L. of the same Society. The second part of the second controuersy; Controversiarum epitomes. English. Selections	Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639.	1614 (1614)	STC 13997A; ESTC S118149	27,760	72

uncertaynty_a be_v engender_v in_o we_o if_o the_o thing_n be_v ambiguous_o and_o obscure_o propose_v how_o certain_a soever_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o 4._o the_o four_o property_n be_v the_o strength_n &_o immutability_n thereof_o so_o that_o this_o ground_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v deprave_a change_v or_o corrupt_v for_o otherwise_o truth_n will_v sometime_o perish_v &_o there_o will_v arise_v some_o error_n against_o faith_n 5._o the_o five_o property_n be_v the_o fullness_n &_o sufficiency_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o must_v contain_v all_o thing_n appertain_v to_o the_o catholic_a faith_n see_v that_o nothing_o can_v consist_v without_o his_o ground_n or_o foundation_n 6_o the_o six_o property_n be_v the_o necessity_n thereof_o that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o must_v necessary_o be_v receive_v of_o all_o who_o have_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o because_o without_o it_o true_a faith_n can_v consist_v even_o as_o the_o building_n can_v continue_v without_o the_o foundation_n 7._o the_o seven_o property_n be_v that_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a sign_n and_o token_n whereby_o christian_n be_v distinguish_v from_o infidel_n for_o he_o which_o want_v the_o ground_n and_o rule_v of_o faith_n be_v a_o infidel_n but_o he_o who_o retain_v it_o be_v a_o true_a believer_n 8._o the_o eight_o property_n be_v that_o in_o every_o article_n and_o conclusion_n of_o faith_n this_o principle_n and_o ground_n be_v virtual_o contain_v see_v that_o out_o of_o it_o all_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v deduce_v &_o they_o receive_v the_o certaynty_a from_o it_o 9_o the_o nine_o property_n be_v that_o it_o not_o only_o move_v christian_n to_o believe_v but_o that_o it_o also_o convince_v the_o infidel_n for_o otherwise_o the_o way_n to_o faith_n and_o eternal_a salvation_n shall_v not_o be_v know_v or_o open_v to_o infidel_n 10._o the_o ten_o property_n be_v that_o it_o be_v contain_v express_o in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n wherein_o all_o the_o first_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v contain_v for_o the_o apostle_n after_o they_o have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o so_o forgetful_a that_o in_o the_o creed_n or_o summary_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o set_v down_o to_o be_v believe_v of_o all_o they_o will_v let_v pass_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a ground_n of_o faith_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o property_n of_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n chap._n iii_o that_o the_o scripture_n alone_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n or_o rule_v of_o faith_n that_o the_o scripture_n alone_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n we_o have_v already_o declare_v by_o the_o property_n of_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n before_o allege_a for_o of_o those_o ten_o property_n the_o scripture_n have_v only_o one_o to_o wit_n truth_n but_o all_o the_o other_o property_n be_v want_v unto_o it_o the_o which_o we_o clear_o demonstrate_v in_o this_o sort_n first_o of_o all_o a_o perpetual_a duration_n and_o continuance_n be_v want_v for_o 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have_v speak_v before_o 4._o four_o that_o fullness_n and_o sufficiency_n be_v want_v because_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v not_o express_o contain_v sequent_a in_o holy_a scripture_n as_o we_o have_v also_o declare_v before_o 5._o five_o the_o foresay_a necessity_n be_v want_v for_o without_o the_o holy_a scripture_n there_o be_v in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n for_o the_o space_n of_o two_o thousand_o year_n many_o true_a believer_n and_o also_o long_o after_o christ_n yea_o even_o till_o the_o time_n of_o s._n irenaeus_n that_o be_v to_o say_v almost_o two_o hundred_o year_n there_o be_v many_o nation_n who_o sincere_o believe_v in_o christ_n without_o any_o holy_a scripture_n 4._o as_o s._n irenaeus_n himself_o testify_v last_o albeit_o infidel_n shall_v burn_v all_o the_o bibles_n yet_o the_o faith_n of_o christian_n shall_v not_o therefore_o perish_v or_o be_v whole_o overthrow_v therefore_o our_o faith_n do_v not_o necessary_o depend_v of_o the_o scripture_n 6._o six_o the_o seven_o property_n be_v also_o want_v for_o by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o true_a christian_n be_v not_o distinguish_v from_o infidel_n because_o almost_o all_o heretic_n do_v both_o now_o receive_v the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o in_o time_n pass_v also_o receive_v they_o 7._o seven_o the_o eight_o property_n be_v want_v for_o there_o be_v many_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o rely_v upon_o the_o tradition_n of_o 27._o the_o church_n only_o without_o any_o express_a scripture_n at_o all_o as_o we_o have_v declare_v before_o 8._o eight_o the_o nine_o property_n be_v want_v for_o turk_n and_o other_o gentill_n who_o be_v only_o lead_v by_o natural_a reason_n be_v very_o seldom_o or_o never_o convert_v by_o scripture_n only_o but_o we_o add_v also_o some_o other_o natural_a reason_n and_o persuasion_n that_o they_o may_v be_v convert_v for_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o holy_a scripture_n which_o s●…me_v opposite_a to_o natural_a reason_n as_o the_o mysterye_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n incarnation_n &_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n 9_o nine_o there_o want_v last_o of_o all_o the_o ten_o property_n for_o there_o be_v nothing_o extant_a of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n 10._o the_o holy_a scripture_n indeed_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o reason_n why_o we_o believe_v many_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o not_o the_o ground_n why_o we_o believe_v all_o moreover_o neither_o be_v it_o the_o first_o ground_n of_o all_o that_o we_o believe_v by_o it_o for_o the_o scripture_n itself_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o other_o more_o general_a ground_n to_o wit_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n wherefore_o the_o scripture_n be_v only_o a_o particular_a ground_n and_o not_o a_o general_a a_o mediate_a and_o not_o immediate_a a_o secondary_a and_o not_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a rule_n of_o faith_n chap._n four_o that_o the_o private_a or_o particular_a spirit_n of_o every_o one_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n or_o rule_v 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the_o ghospell_n of_o s._n mark_v and_o s._n luke_n who_o be_v not_o apostle_n but_o only_o their_o disciple_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o this_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n here_o upon_o say_v tertullian_n if_o he_o from_o who_o s._n luke_n receive_v 2_o his_o light_n desire_v to_o have_v his_o faith_n and_o preach_v authorize_v by_o his_o predecessor_n how_o much_o more_o reason_n have_v i_o to_o desire_v the_o like_a for_o the_o gospel_n of_o s._n luke_n see_v the_o same_o be_v so_o necessary_a for_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o master_n thus_o far_o tertullian_n 8._o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o revelation_n of_o s._n brigit_fw-la and_o s._n catherine_n of_o sienna_n albeit_o they_o be_v true_o reveal_v unto_o they_o by_o god_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o appertain_v to_o the_o catholic_a faith_n because_o they_o be_v not_o approve_v by_o the_o church_n as_o the_o undoubted_a and_o certain_a word_n of_o god_n 9_o even_o as_o also_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n many_o before_o 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will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n say_v our_o lord_n let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o 6._o a_o heathen_a or_o publicam_fw-la and_o s._n john_n say_v he_o which_o know_v god_n hear_v we_o he_o which_o be_v not_o of_o god_n do_v not_o hear_v us._n 11._o the_o church_n have_v the_o eight_o property_n for_o whatsoever_o we_o believe_v with_o our_o catholic_a faith_n we_o believe_v it_o because_o it_o be_v reveal_v unto_o we_o from_o god_n by_o 27._o the_o church_n but_o god_n now_o reveal_v nothing_o to_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n immediate_o by_o himself_o yea_o even_o our_o adversary_n do_v well_o admonish_v we_o to_o labour_v most_o of_o all_o that_o no_o way_n or_o leave_v be_v grant_v to_o such_o fantastical_a revelation_n 12._o the_o church_n have_v the_o nine_o property_n for_o the_o church_n convince_v also_o turk_n and_o infidel_n by_o natural_a reason_n of_o which_o sort_n there_o be_v many_o extant_a in_o s._n controu_n thom._n we_o prove_v also_o the_o church_n 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ten_o chapter_n to_o the_o roman_n because_o faith_n be_v by_o hear_v there_o will_v be_v no_o say_v unless_o there_o be_v some_o that_o preach_v therefore_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n the_o church_n support_v the_o truth_n because_o it_o make_v it_o famous_a by_o her_o praise_n and_o commendation_n because_o the_o retain_v it_o in_o sincerity_n and_o purity_n and_o because_o she_o deliver_v and_o send_v it_o to_o her_o posterity_n thus_o calvin_n 18._o but_o that_o which_o second_o he_o add_v that_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v support_v and_o uphold_v by_o the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o church_n be_v indeed_o most_o true_a but_o he_o shall_v have_v consider_v that_o this_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n can_v be_v find_v but_o only_o in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o no_o other_o but_o man_n can_v preach_v the_o pure_a gospel_n wherefore_o if_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v sustain_v by_o the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n it_o necessary_o follow_v also_o that_o the_o church_n must_v be_v sustain_v by_o man_n and_o consequent_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o gound_z of_o truth_n albeit_o not_o absolute_o yet_o in_o regard_n of_o we_o and_o our_o knowledge_n so_o as_o beza_n also_o be_v force_v to_o 1●…_n confess_v the_o same_o explicate_v those_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n understand_v this_o say_v beza_n not_o simple_o in_o itself_o but_o in_o regard_n of_o us._n thus_o he_o 19_o it_o be_v therefore_o manifest_a as_o well_o out_o of_o calvin_n as_o beza_n that_o the_o church_n in_o regard_n of_o we_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o truth_n or_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o of_o our_o faith_n which_o rely_v thereon_o but_o that_o which_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n be_v

faith_n we_o do_v not_o understand_v by_o the_o church_n the_o shoulder_n or_o body_n of_o they_o who_o be_v in_o she_o but_o their_o authority_n doctrine_n and_o preach_v for_o by_o these_o thing_n faith_n be_v engender_v and_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v faith_n be_v by_o hear_v 15._o but_o whensoever_o we_o treat_v of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n we_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o want_v true_a faith_n which_o be_v deaf_a dumb_a or_o foolish_a and_o which_o also_o either_o neglect_v or_o not_o understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o scripture_n for_o such_o a_o church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n but_o we_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o believe_v which_o speak_v which_o preach_v the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n which_o keep_v and_o expound_v the_o scripture_n most_o faithful_o and_o which_o fit_o apply_v they_o in_o sermon_n &_o exhortation_n among_o we_o therefore_o all_o these_o word_n have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o signification_n the_o church_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n the_o preach_v and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n of_o god_n preach_v by_o the_o church_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n propose_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n and_o we_o understand_v all_o these_o thing_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n when_o we_o say_v that_o she_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n for_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v either_o property_n action_n or_o office_n of_o the_o church_n which_o can_v be_v separate_v from_o she_o 16._o wherefore_o our_o adversary_n do_v err_v exceed_o when_o they_o separate_v every_o one_o of_o these_o from_o the_o church_n and_o oppose_v or_o object_v it_o against_o she_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o quite_o distinct_a thing_n from_o she_o nay_o of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n they_o make_v she_o the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n therefore_o the_o apostolical_a &_o prophetical_a doctrine_n must_v not_o be_v separate_v and_o make_v opposite_a unto_o the_o church_n as_o calvin_n do_v see_v that_o it_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n calvin_n therefore_o dispute_v as_o if_o one_o shall_v make_v this_o argument_n a_o man_n without_o his_o soul_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understandeth_v therefore_o a_o man_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understand_v 17._o but_o peradventure_o some_o will_v say_v we_o have_v say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n and_o now_o we_o 7._o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n whereof_o the_o one_o seem_v to_o be_v contrary_a unto_o the_o other_o i_o answer_v that_o here_o there_o be_v no_o contrariety_n for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o faith_n the_o one_o be_v the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian_a whereby_o together_o with_o hope_n and_o charity_n every_o one_o be_v justify_v the_o other_o be_v the_o general_a and_o common_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o particular_a faith_n of_o each_o one_o rely_v upon_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n upon_o the_o faith_n preach_v and_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o she_o herself_o rely_v upon_o the_o general_a faith_n and_o profession_n and_o preach_a thereof_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n when_o therefore_o we_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian._n but_o when_o we_o say_v that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o general_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 18._o there_o be_v other_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n but_o we_o may_v easy_o answer_v ul●…_n thereunto_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v already_o say_v the_o which_o melchior_n canus_n and_o bellarmine_n do_v prosecute_v and_o handle_v more_o at_o large_a unto_o who_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o they_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n &_o libertine_n whereby_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n themselves_o be_v no_o less_o diminish_v and_o infringe_v then_o that_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n vii_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o only_o give_v a_o bare_a testimony_n but_o also_o authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n this_o matter_n be_v here_o brief_o to_o be_v examine_v that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o be_v understand_v how_o necessary_a the_o church_n approbation_n be_v to_o the_o establish_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o to_o the_o end_n that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o appear_v whereof_o we_o dispute_v in_o this_o place_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v that_o see_v that_o our_o adversary_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n affoard_v some_o testimony_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n they_o affirm_v that_o this_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o a_o bare_a testimony_n and_o not_o a_o testimony_n of_o authority_n 2._o for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o testimony_n the_o one_o be_v call_v a_o testimony_n of_o authority_n because_o upon_o it_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n testify_v depend_v it_o be_v call_v also_o a_o necessary_a testimony_n because_o without_o it_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n be_v not_o sufficient_o testify_v the_o other_o be_v call_v a_o bare_a testimony_n and_o not_o necessary_a that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o such_o a_o testimony_n be_v not_o so_o necessary_a because_o the_o matter_n be_v otherwise_o 7_o sufficient_o testify_v such_o a_o testimony_n be_v that_o which_o s._n john_n baptist_n give_v of_o christ._n for_o christ_n have_v sufficient_a testimony_n beside_o 3._o of_o the_o former_a testimony_n of_o authority_n christ_n say_v but_o i_o do_v not_o receive_v my_o 36._o testimony_n from_o man_n to_o wit_n the_o testimony_n of_o authority_n &_o necessary_a for_o of_o the_o bare_a testimony_n he_o have_v speak_v a_o little_a before_o you_o send_v unto_o john_n and_o he_o have_v give_v testimony_n to_o truth_n but_o this_o be_v a_o bare_a testimony_n wherefore_o 5._o christ_n a_o little_a after_o say_v i_o have_v a_o great_a testimony_n than_o john_n for_o the_o work_n which_o the_o father_n have_v give_v i_o to_o profit_v they_o the_o very_a work_n which_o i_o do_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o that_o the_o father_n have_v send_v i_o and_o the_o father_n that_o send_v i_o himself_o have_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o all_o which_o say_v christ_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o authority_n our_o adversary_n therefore_o say_v that_o the_o church_n give_v only_o a_o bare_a testimony_n to_o the_o scripture_n as_o s._n john_n give_v to_o christ_n but_o she_o give_v not_o a_o necessary_a testimony_n or_o that_o of_o authority_n 4._o but_o that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v altogether_o necessary_a as_o that_o 5._o whereof_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n depend_v be_v very_o manifest_a by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n and_o by_o that_o also_o which_o we_o allege_v in_o the_o 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