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B06703 The guide in controversies, or, A rational account of the doctrine of Roman-Catholicks concerning the ecclesiastical guide in controversies of religion reflecting on the later writings of Protestants, particularly of Archbishop Lawd and Dr. Stillingfleet on this subject. / By R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1667 (1667) Wing W3447A; ESTC R186847 357,072 413

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infallible_a yet_o how_o can_v any_o know_v infallible_o which_o be_v lawful_a general_n council_n because_o of_o the_o many_o condition_n require_v to_o make_v they_o such_o in_o some_o one_o of_o which_o he_o can_v never_o be_v infallible_o certain_a that_o any_o one_o of_o they_o hat_n not_o fail_v §_o 114._o chap._n 10._o 15._o q._n last_o catholic_n pretend_v a_o divine_a faith_n of_o the_o article_n of_o christian_a religion_n to_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o all_o divine_a faith_n necessary_o to_o be_v ground_v on_o divine_a revelation_n it_o be_v ask_v upon_o what_o ground_n a_o christian_a by_o a_o divine_a faith_n believe_v all_o those_o article_n of_o his_o faith_n that_o be_v define_v by_o particular_a council_n where_o if_o say_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n which_o be_v in_o the_o former_a manner_n i._n e._n by_o divine_a revelation_n infallible_a the_o question_n return_v whence_o this_o testimony_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v in_o such_o a_o manner_n infallible_a without_o make_v a_o circle_n in_o prove_v this_o present_a church_n to_o be_v so_o infallible_a from_o god_n word_n write_v or_o unwritten_a and_o then_o again_o prove_v infallible_o such_o to_o have_v be_v god_n word_n from_o the_o infallible_a testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n nor_o can_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v prove_v to_o be_v infallible_a in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o to_o ground_v divine_a faith_n upon_o it_o from_o the_o motive_n of_o credibility_n or_o from_o any_o thing_n else_o but_o only_o from_o a_o divine_a revelation_n i._n e._n from_o god_n word_n because_o divine_a faith_n can_v never_o resolve_v itself_o into_o any_o ground_n that_o be_v not_o divine_a revelation_n §_o 120._o to_o which_o be_v answer_v 1._o that_o the_o object_n of_o a_o divine_a faith_n be_v always_o in_o itself_o infallible_a §_o 123._o 2._o that_o divine_a faith_n always_o ultimate_o resolve_v itself_o into_o divine_a revelation_n and_o that_o into_o some_o one_o wherein_o it_o ultimate_o rest_v without_o a_o process_n in_o infinitum_fw-la or_o turn_v in_o a_o circle_n §_o 124._o n._n 1._o 132._o 143_o 144._o 3._o that_o divine_a faith_n be_v always_o wrought_v in_o christian_n by_o the_o operation_n of_o god_n spirit_n §_o 124._o n._n 2._o 4._o that_o from_o the_o operation_n of_o this_o h._n spirit_n may_v be_v produce_v in_o christian_n a_o sufficient_a certainty_n of_o divine_a faith_n whatever_o uncertainty_n be_v in_o the_o extrinsical_a proponent_a thereof_o §_o 125._o 5._o that_o church-tradition_n in_o deliver_v unto_o we_o the_o divine_a revelation_n be_v only_o the_o introductive_a not_o the_o object_n of_o a_o divine_a faith_n §_o 126._o 6._o that_o there_o in_o no_o absolute_a need_n either_o of_o it_o or_o any_o other_o extrinsical_a infallible_a introductive_a or_o proponent_n for_o a_o christian_n be_v attain_n a_o divine_a faith_n §_o 127._o 7._o yet_o that_o there_o be_v those_o morally-certain_a ground_n produceable_a for_o this_o faith_n and_o all_o the_o article_n thereof_o as_o they_o be_v believe_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o no_o other_o religion_n beside_o the_o christian_a nor_o in_o christianity_n no_o other_o sect_n or_o seduce_v private_a spirit_n can_v pretend_v to_o §_o 135._o that_o a_o rational_a certainty_n or_o morally-infallible_a ground_n of_o a_o christian_n faith_n thus_o far_o at_o least_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o whatever_o be_v contain_v therein_o infallible_a be_v affirm_v by_o all_o §_o 136._o 8._o but_o further_o that_o a_o infallibility_n in_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n as_o perpetual_o assist_v by_o the_o h._n ghost_n for_o all_o necessary_n wherein_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n or_o verity_n of_o tradition_n apostolical_a be_v question_v and_o dispute_v be_v believe_v by_o catholic_n from_o which_o infallibility_n of_o these_o church-guide_n clear_o reveal_v to_o they_o in_o scripture_n and_o by_o tradition_n apostolical_a they_o retain_v a_o firm_a faith_n of_o all_o those_o point_n which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n or_o tradition_n as_o to_o all_o man_n so_o clear_o reveal_v whilst_o other_o deny_v the_o infallibility_n of_o these_o church-guide_n and_o only_o allow_v that_o of_o scripture_n miscarry_v in_o their_o faith_n concern_v some_o of_o the_o other_o point_n or_o can_v have_v no_o firm_a ground_n of_o their_o believe_v they_o §_o 140._o show_v from_o the_o precedent_n that_o no_o circle_n be_v make_v in_o the_o roman_a catholick_n resolve_v either_o of_o a_o divine_a and_o infuse_v or_o acquisite_a and_o humane_a faith_n §_o 143._o etc._n etc._n chap._n 11._o a_o supplement_n to_o the_o four_o chap._n 26_o §_o wherein_o be_v show_v a_o consent_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o modern_a eastern_a church_n with_o the_o occidental_a in_o the_o chief_a point_n of_o present_a controversy_n 1._o transubstantiation_n §_o 158._o n._n 2._o 177._o 2._o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n §_o 159._o 177._o 3._o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n §_o 160._o n._n 1._o 177._o 4._o invocation_n of_o saint_n §_o 161._o 5._o prayer_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a depart_v as_o betterable_a thereby_o in_o their_o present_a condition_n §_o 162._o 6._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n or_o of_o the_o symbol_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n only_o intinct_a §_o 163.178_o 7._o a_o relative_n veneration_n of_o image_n or_o picture_n §_o ibid._n 8._o monastic_a vow_n and_o marriage_n deny_v the_o clergy_n after_o the_o take_n of_o holy_a order_n §_o 164._o and_o §_o 179._o n._n 1._o 9_o auricular_a or_o sacramental_a confession_n §_o 165.179_o n._n 2._o the_o reply_v make_v hereto_o by_o protestant_n consider_v §_o 182._o etc._n etc._n the_o four_o discourse_n contain_v the_o socinian_o apology_n for_o the_o be_v believe_v and_o teach_v his_o doctrine_n against_o former_a church-definition_n and_o present_a church-authority_n upon_o the_o protestant-ground_n divide_v into_o five_o conference_n the_o first_o conf._n of_o his_o not_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n §_o 2._o the_o second_o conf._n of_o his_o not_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o unanimous_a sense_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n so_o far_o as_o this_o can_v just_o oblige_v §_o 13_o the_o three_o conf._n nor_o contrary_a to_o the_o definition_n of_o lawful_a general_n council_n the_o just_a condition_n thereof_o observe_v §_o 18._o the_o four_o conf._n of_o his_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n §_o 23._o the_o five_o conf._n nor_o of_o schism_n §_o 28._o the_o first_o discourse_n relate_v and_o consider_v the_o vary_v judgement_n of_o learned_a protestant_n concern_v the_o ecclesiastical_a guide_n chap._n i._n the_o church_n catholic_n grant_v by_o all_o in_o some_o sense_n unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o for_o ever_o §_o 1._o of_o protestant_a divine_n i._o some_o grant_v the_o church_n catholic_n unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o or_o necessary_n but_o not_o as_o a_o guide_n §_o 3._o r._n thatthe_a divine_a promise_n of_o indefectibility_n or_o not_o err_v in_o necessary_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n catholic_n as_o a_o guide_n or_o to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n §_o 6._o §_o 1_o first_o that_o the_o church_n catholic_n of_o any_o age_n whatever_o be_v unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o fundamental_o the_o church_n catholic_n grant_v by_o all_o in_o some_o sense_n unerrable_a for_o ever_o in_o fundamental_o or_o absolute_a necessary_n to_o salvation_n both_o by_o roman-catholic_n and_o protestant_n be_v grant_v for_o otherwise_o in_o some_o age_n there_o will_v be_v no_o church_n catholic_n error_n in_o such_o fundamental_o destroy_v the_o very_a be_v of_o a_o church_n §_o 2_o but_o when_o from_o the_o church_n catholic_n it_o be_v by_o catholic_n ascend_v to_o the_o governor_n or_o guide_n thereof_o to_o who_o this_o church_n be_v commit_v by_o our_o lord_n depart_v hence_o that_o they_o be_v also_o by_o our_o lord_n promise_v and_o assistance_n unerrable_a in_o their_o decree_n they_o at_o least_o in_o a_o lawful_a general_n council_n of_o they_o such_o as_o the_o time_n wherein_o such_o council_n be_v assemble_v do_v permit_v unerrable_a §_o 3_o at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o to_o necessary_n here_o the_o protestant_n make_v a_o stop_n guide_n 1._o 1._o some_o protestant-divines_a grant_v the_o church_n catholic_n unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o or_o necessary_n but_o not_o as_o a_o guide_n and_o seem_v to_o differ_v one_o from_o another_o in_o 12_o their_o judgement_n mr._n ch_n llingworth_a in_o his_o answer_n to_o f._n knot_n and_o after_o he_o dr._n hammond_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o exception_n make_v against_o the_o lord_n falkland_n discourse_n of_o infallibility_n with_o their_o follower_n in_o this_o point_n among_o who_o i_o number_v the_o two_o late_a replier_n 20._o replier_n see_v mr._n stillingf_n p._n 154_o 251_o 252_o 514_o 517.55_o whitby_n c._n
protestant_n defence_n and_o reformation_n be_v this_o 1_o that_o they_o have_v a_o most_o certain_a rule_n of_o their_o faith_n common_a to_o they_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o beside_o these_o a_o summary_n thereof_o draw_v up_o in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n and_o explicate_v by_o the_o first_o three_o age_n i._n e._n the_o writing_n we_o have_v thereof_o and_o the_o first_o four-general_n council_n and_o that_o in_o the_o sincere_a belief_n of_o this_o primitive_a rule_n they_o rest_v secure_a of_o believe_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a for_o salvation_n and_o likewise_o of_o their_o retain_v a_o firm-communion_n as_o to_o the_o essential_o of_o faith_n with_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n and_o even_o with_o that_o of_o rome_n 2_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o they_o a_o catholic_n but_o not_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n one_o part_n only_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o also_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v another_o 3_o that_o this_o roman_a or_o any_o other_o part_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n may_v err_v whilst_o it_o still_o remain_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n in_o nonfundamentals_a or_o non-essentials_a and_o necessary_n 4_o lie_n that_o this_o part_n do_v err_v in_o such_o nonfundamentals_a and_o that_o grievous_o and_o that_o the_o protestant_n or_o church_n of_o england_n discover_v these_o to_o be_v such_o grievous_a error_n by_o the_o light_n of_o scripture_n and_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n 5_o lie_n that_o this_o roman_a church_n add_v this_o also_o to_o her_o err_a that_o she_o exercise_v a_o unlawful_a dominion_n or_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o require_v a_o assent_n from_o this_o church_n to_o such_o her_o grievous_a error_n upon_o pain_n of_o lose_v her_o communion_n 6_o lie_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n refuse_v such_o assent_n to_o what_o by_o clear_a scripture_n she_o have_v discover_v to_o 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it_o be_v a_o competent_a judge_n against_o they_o that_o it_o be_v so_o §_o 34._o 5._o that_o though_o they_o be_v separater_n from_o the_o roman_a yet_o not_o from_o the_o reform_a church_n which_o church_n leave_v man_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o own_o judgement_n nor_o require_v any_o internal_a assent_n to_o their_o doctrine_n in_o which_o thing_n these_o blame_n the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n save_v only_o conditional_a if_o any_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n thereof_o or_o not_o convince_v of_o the_o contrary_n §_o 35._o 6._o in_o fine_a that_o for_o enjoy_v and_o continue_v in_o the_o protestant_a communion_n he_o make_v as_o full_a a_o profession_n of_o conformity_n to_o her_o doctrine_n as_o mr._n chillingworth_n have_v do_v in_o several_a place_n of_o his_o book_n which_o yet_o be_v accept_v as_o sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d 41._o the_o four_o discourse_n conference_n i._n the_o socinian_n protestant_a plea_n for_o his_o not_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n §_o 1_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o have_v be_v deliver_v in_o the_o three_o former_a discourse_n concern_v the_o invalidity_n of_o the_o protestant_n guide_v for_o preserve_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o suppress_v heresy_n may_v be_v clearly_o see_v and_o more_o serious_o consider_v i_o have_v think_v fit_a in_o this_o for_o a_o example_n to_o show_v what_o apology_n a_o socinian_n upon_o the_o forementioned_a protestant-position_n may_v return_v for_o himself_o to_o a_o protestant_a endeavour_v to_o reduce_v he_o to_o the_o true_a faith_n and_o use_v any_o of_o these_o five_o motive_n thereto_o the_o testimony_n 1._o of_o scripture_n 2._o of_o catholic_n church_n 3._o of_o her_o council_n 4._o the_o danger_n of_o heresy_n 5._o the_o danger_n of_o schism_n in_o which_o will_v not_o be_v think_v to_o go_v about_o to_o equal_v all_o other_o protestant-opinion_n to_o the_o malignity_n of_o the_o socinian_n error_n but_o only_o to_o show_v that_o several_a 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former_a council_n such_o as_o the_o church_n of_o precede_a age_n have_v receive_v as_o general_n or_o oblige_v as_o well_o those_o council_n since_o as_o those_o before_o the_o six_o or_o seven_o century_n which_o late_a the_o other_o party_n reject_v §_o 37._o chap._n 5._o the_o pretend_a security_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o deny_v any_o certain_a live_a or_o personal_a guide_n infallible_a in_o necessary_n affirm_v 1._o that_o all_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n be_v even_o to_o the_o unlearned_a clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o controversy_n in_o non-necessaries_a needless_a to_o be_v decide_v §_o 38._o 2._o that_o all_o necessary_n be_v clear_a in_o scripture_n because_o god_n have_v leave_v no_o other_o certain_a mean_n rule_n or_o guide_n for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o save_o the_o scripture_n §_o 39_o n._n 1._o not_o any_o certain_a live_a guide_n 1._o which_o be_v infallible_a as_o their_o guide_n the_o scripture_n be_v §_o 39_o n._n 2._o 2._o which_o 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and_o in_o controversy_n the_o christian_n guide_n to_o know_v the_o true_a sense_n can_v be_v the_o scripture_n but_o either_o the_o church_n or_o their_o own_o judgement_n §_o 46._o n._n 1._o 2._o that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n shall_v direct_v christian_n to_o what_o guide_n they_o be_v to_o repair_v §_o 46._o n._n 2._o or_o to_o what_o church_n prelate_n or_o party_n in_o any_o schism_n christian_n for_o ever_o ought_v to_o adhere_v §_o 47._o n._n 2._o 3._o yet_o that_o god_n have_v give_v christian_n a_o sufficient_a direction_n herein_o in_o his_o leave_v a_o due_a subordination_n among_o these_o governor_n whereby_o the_o inferior_n be_v subject_v to_o the_o superior_a and_o a_o par●_n unto_o the_o whole_a §_o 47._o n._n 3._o and_o that_o christian_n may_v more_o clear_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o their_o definition_n in_o matter_n controvert_v than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 48._o the_o three_o discourse_n examine_v what_o measure_n of_o obedience_n be_v due_a to_o these_o guide_n and_o to_o the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a judge_n of_o controversy_n the_o content_n chap._n 1._o roman_n catholic_n and_o protestant_n do_v agree_v 1._o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o those_o book_n by_o the_o protestant_n style_v canonical_a be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n §_o 1._o 2._o that_o in_o these_o scripture_n agree_v on_o it_o be_v clear_o declare_v that_o the_o church_n catholic_n of_o no_o age_n shall_v err_v in_o necessary_n §_o 2._o 3._o that_o the_o church_n catholic_n be_v contradistinct_a to_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a church_n §_o 4._o 4._o that_o christ_n have_v leave_v in_o his_o church_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n to_o keep_v it_o from_o be_v toss_v to_o and_o fro_o and_o carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n §_o 5._o chap._n 2._o catholic_n go_v on_o and_o affirm_v 5._o that_o the_o church_n guide_v at_o least_o assemble_v in_o lawful_a general_n council_n shall_v never_o err_v 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its_o decree_n or_o concurrence_n with_o its_o doctrine_n render_v it_o equivalent_a to_o a_o council_n general_n §_o 13._o 10._o that_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n part_n of_o the_o whole_a be_v oblige_v to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n and_o yield_v their_o assent_n to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o whole_a §_o 14._o chap._n 3_o 11._o that_o whatever_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n hold_v the_o contrary_a to_o any_o know_a definition_n pass_v in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n of_o any_o lawful_a general_n council_n be_v heretical_a §_o 16._o 12._o that_o any_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n which_o for_o any_o cause_n whatever_o do_v actual_o relinquish_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o present_a church_n catholic_n be_v schismatical_a §_o 20._o 13._o but_o yet_o that_o several_a person_n or_o church_n coordinate_a may_v without_o schism_n differ_v in_o any_o thing_n opinion_n or_o practice_v wherein_o they_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o accord_v by_o their_o common_a superior_n or_o by_o the_o whole_a §_o 23._o chap._n 4._o but_o protestant_n after_o the_o four_o first_o proposition_n concede_v in_o some_o sense_n do_v thus_o endeavour_v to_o qualify_v and_o restrain_v they_o 5._o in_o grant_v the_o catholic_n church_n in_o all_o age_n unerrable_a in_o necessary_n they_o understand_v only_o such_o few_o necessary_n without_o the_o explicit_a belief_n of_o which_o salvation_n can_v be_v attain_v §_o 24._o 6._o therefore_o also_o they_o affirm_v that_o though_o the_o church_n catholic_n can_v err_v in_o such_o point_n absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o it_o or_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o some_o one_o age_n or_o age_n may_v in_o other_o the_o error_n wherein_o be_v dangerous_a to_o salvation_n gross_a damnable_a etc._n etc._n §_o 25._o because_o it_o appear_v that_o many_o of_o the_o chief_a point_n from_o which_o protestant_n dissent_v be_v general_a tenant_n and_o practice_n
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