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A33224 The summ of a conference on Feb. 21, 1686, between Dr. Clagett, and Father Gooden, about the point of transubstantiation Clagett, William, 1646-1688.; Gooden, Peter, d. 1695. 1689 (1689) Wing C4401; ESTC R7092 13,374 33

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