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A85045 A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1658 (1658) Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619 279,090 362

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so_o but_o though_o the_o church_n may_v be_v sometime_o obscure_v it_o never_o lose_v its_o visibility_n or_o cease_v to_o be_v visible_a so_o ames_n ecclesia_fw-la nunquam_fw-la planè_fw-la desinit_fw-la esse_fw-la visibilis_fw-la 39_o med._n p._n 166._o 39_o quamvis_fw-la enim_fw-la aliquando_fw-la viz_o usquam_fw-la appareat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la tam_fw-la pura_fw-la etc._n etc._n ecclesia_fw-la tamen_fw-la aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la visibilis_fw-la exist_v it_o in_o illa_fw-la ipsa_fw-la impuritate_fw-la cultus_fw-la &_o professionis_fw-la which_o we_o may_v take_v in_o english_a in_o those_o pertinent_a word_n of_o master_n fox_n the_o right_a monument_n his_o protestation_n before_o his_o act_n and_o monument_n church_n say_v he_o be_v not_o so_o invisible_a in_o the_o world_n as_o none_o can_v see_v it_o the_o scripture-church_n be_v most_o proper_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n this_o none_o can_v well_o deny_v but_o now_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o scripture-church_n as_o appear_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o scripture_n about_o the_o church_n the_o example_n the_o part_n the_o ordinance_n and_o number_n of_o scripture-churche_n first_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n about_o the_o church_n be_v general_o such_o as_o agree_v only_o with_o the_o church-visible_a viz._n as_o make_v up_o of_o tare_n and_o wheat_n good_a and_o bad_a elect_a and_o reprobate_a etc._n etc._n yea_o the_o very_a word_n church_n in_o scripture_n as_o some_o affirm_v be_v not_o more_o than_o once_o take_v for_o the_o church-invisible_a which_o be_v heb._n 12._o 23._o though_o that_o very_a place_n be_v by_o some_o reverend_n divine_n understand_v of_o the_o church-visible_a also_o for_o it_o be_v already_o come_v into_o by_o person_n then_o alive_o you_o be_v come_v therefore_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n and_o it_o be_v a_o church_n that_o have_v ordinance_n in_o it_o v._o 25._o therefore_o the_o visible_a but_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v as_o master_n blake_n observe_v that_o in_o this_o place_n and_o in_o two_o or_o three_o more_o the_o scripture_n mean_v the_o church_n invisible_a which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o can_v be_v pretend_v unto_o yet_o doubtless_o that_o which_o be_v the_o ordinary_a language_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o he_o use_v most_o often_o and_o almost_o always_o be_v that_o which_o be_v most_o proper_a 2._o it_o also_o appear_v from_o the_o example_n of_o scripture-churche_n spalatensi_fw-la de_fw-fr quâ_fw-la solâ_fw-la ecclefiâ_fw-la praesumptiuâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n dau._n detern_n p._n 218._o ex_fw-la spalatensi_fw-la for_o have_v not_o even_o all_o these_o a_o mixture_n of_o corrupt_a and_o wicked_a member_n and_o be_v such_o a_o mixture_n compatible_a with_o the_o church_n invisible_a or_o what_o church_n can_v such_o be_v but_o visible_a therefore_o say_v davenant_n all_o such_o scripture_n and_o assertion_n of_o the_o father_n as_o speak_v of_o this_o mixture_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o presumptive_a or_o visible_a church_n 3._o it_o further_o appear_v by_o the_o part_n of_o the_o scripture-church_n which_o be_v general_o such_o as_o be_v only_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o visile_a church_n that_o the_o scripture-church_n be_v the_o visible_a church_n the_o part_n of_o the_o scripture-church_n be_v general_o priest_n and_o people_n pastor_n and_o flock_n the_o ruler_n and_o the_o rule_v the_o catechiser_n and_o the_o catechize_v and_o the_o like_a as_o both_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n abundant_o testify_v now_o in_o the_o church_n invisible_a there_o be_v no_o such_o part_n no_o such_o relation_n no_o such_o officer_n but_o all_o be_v member_n but_o christ_n the_o head_n therefore_o the_o scripture-church_n wherein_o these_o part_n and_o officer_n as_o such_o be_v viz._n priest_n prophet_n apostle_n bishop_n pastor_n elder_n deacon_n ruler_n cetechizer_n etc._n etc._n must_v needs_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n four_o that_o the_o scripture-churche_n be_v the_o visible_a church_n appear_v moreover_o by_o the_o dispensation_n of_o ordinance_n fix_v therein_o which_o be_v proper_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o all_o the_o scripture-churche_n we_o find_v a_o dispensation_n of_o the_o word_n sacrament_n discipline_n the_o dispensation_n whereof_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o man_n who_o be_v only_o capable_a of_o deal_n with_o the_o church_n as_o visible_a yea_o the_o dispensation_n itself_o be_v visible_a and_o all_o will_v ready_o grant_v that_o these_o ordinance_n be_v all_o of_o they_o peculiar_a to_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o attendance_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o they_o be_v the_o most_o eminent_a and_o remarkable_a mean_n of_o render_v the_o church_n herself_o to_o be_v visible_a last_o this_o yet_o far_o appear_v from_o the_o number_n of_o the_o scripture-churche_n they_o be_v many_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n corinth_n galatia_n ephesus_n colosse_n philippi_n thessalonica_n pergamus_n thyatira_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o invisible_a church_n be_v also_o indivisible_a it_o be_v but_o one_o and_o not_o to_o be_v divide_v into_o any_o more_o therefore_o the_o scripture-church_n which_o be_v thus_o actual_o divide_v must_v needs_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n arg._n 5._o my_o last_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o name_n church_n and_o may_v be_v this_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o its_o nature_n do_v not_o proper_o answer_v to_o the_o name_n church_n therefore_o it_o be_v most_o proper_o the_o church_n for_o that_o thing_n which_o do_v in_o its_o nature_n most_o proper_o answer_v to_o such_o a_o name_n must_v needs_o be_v the_o thing_n most_o proper_o which_o that_o name_n do_v signify_v now_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v observe_v to_o answer_v to_o the_o name_n church_n in_o a_o most_o proper_a signification_n both_o in_o english_a latin_a greek_a and_o hebrew_n 1._o in_o english_a the_o word_n church_n do_v in_o a_o true_a and_o direct_a propriety_n of_o speech_n signify_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v the_o lord_n and_o may_v be_v conceive_v to_o imply_v the_o lord_n people_n or_o the_o lord_n house_n 135._o die_v kyrchen_n nuxcupant_a &_o ipsum_fw-la dei_fw-la populum_fw-la &_o domum_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la hic_fw-la congregatur_fw-la ad_fw-la cultum_fw-la dei_fw-la vid._n bul._n dec._n p._n 135._o it_o seem_v to_o be_v take_v from_o the_o german_a word_n kurch_n which_o also_o allude_v haply_o to_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dominica_fw-la which_o as_o bullinger_n observe_v they_o use_v to_o understand_v both_o of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n where_o the_o people_n of_o the_o lord_n use_v to_o assemble_v and_o indeed_o of_o both_o as_o they_o have_v relation_n one_o to_o the_o other_o now_o if_o the_o name_n church_n intend_v the_o people_n of_o the_o lord_n meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n to_o attend_v on_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n we_o need_v not_o much_o trouble_v ourselves_o for_o its_o proper_a application_n to_o the_o visible_a church_n 2._o in_o latin_a the_o church_n be_v call_v congregatio_fw-la the_o congregation_n or_o the_o people_n gather_v together_o answer_v haply_o to_o the_o hebrew_n which_o may_v also_o be_v here_o take_v notice_n of_o katial_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d congregavit_fw-la now_o do_v not_o this_o name_n also_o most_o proper_o agree_v with_o the_o nature_n and_o reason_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v it_o not_o a_o local_a gather_v together_o that_o most_o proper_o constitute_v a_o congregation_n and_o be_v not_o this_o most_o proper_a to_o the_o particular_a and_o consequent_o to_o the_o visisible_a church_n therefore_o be_v she_o also_o call_v a_o assembly_n a_o body_n a_o city_n a_o kingdom_n none_o of_o which_o but_o most_o proper_o resemble_v the_o church_n as_o visible_a 3._o last_o the_o church_n in_o greek_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o most_o direct_o import_v a_o people_n call_v out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o anon_o more_o large_o indeed_o the_o term_n from_o or_o out_o of_o which_o the_o church_n be_v call_v be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o all_o agree_v that_o it_o be_v as_o necessary_o imply_v in_o it_o now_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n church_n most_o proper_o and_o exact_o intend_v the_o church-visible_a this_o being_n most_o apparent_o and_o proper_o call_v out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o easy_o appear_v for_o the_o world_n here_o must_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v either_o the_o world_n of_o the_o ungodly_a or_o the_o world_n of_o infidel_n but_o it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o world_n of_o the_o ungodly_a because_o there_o be_v still_o a_o mixture_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n in_o this_o sense_n according_a to_o that_o of_o our_o saviour_n i_o pray_v not_o that_o thou_o shall_v take_v they_o out_o of_o the_o world_n then_o if_o the_o world_n out_o of_o which_o the_o church_n be_v call_v be_v
can_v judge_v only_o according_a to_o appearance_n in_o his_o visible_a worship_n save_v grace_n be_v a_o invisible_a thing_n then_o what_o necessary_a use_n can_v there_o be_v thereof_o in_o such_o visible_a effect_n as_o may_v be_v do_v without_o it_o and_o such_o as_o in_o their_o present_a consideration_n respect_v only_o such_o creature_n as_o can_v discern_v thing_n invisible_a i_o grant_v that_o save_a conversion_n of_o visible_a church-member_n be_v one_o great_a end_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o promise_n of_o first_o grace_n do_v most_o especial_o belong_v unto_o they_o but_o this_o if_o well_o heed_v rather_o help_v then_o hinder_v my_o design_n for_o it_o evident_o suppose_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o visible_a church_n membership_n to_o have_v its_o be_v before_o his_o conversion_n or_o save_v grace_n of_o executione_fw-la finis_fw-la est_fw-la postorior_fw-la medio_fw-la in_o executione_fw-la which_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n for_o the_o rule_n be_v that_o the_o end_n be_v after_o the_o mean_n in_o execution_n chap._n ix_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n hitherto_o of_o the_o external_a cause_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o the_o argument_n thence_o arise_v let_v we_o now_o consider_v the_o cause_n thereof_o remain_v which_o be_v call_v internal_a viz._n the_o matter_n and_o form_n from_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o general_n i_o argue_v thus_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v consider_v true_o to_o have_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n therefore_o to_o be_v true_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n thereunto_o this_o consequence_n simple_o take_v i_o confess_v be_v not_o so_o warrantable_a because_o the_o matter_n do_v praeexist_a before_o and_o remain_v sometime_o after_o the_o form_n yet_o take_v it_o respective_o to_o the_o form_n afterward_o to_o be_v 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the_o end_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o i_o now_o proceed_v to_o add_v the_o matter_n thereof_o affirm_v as_o before_o in_o the_o antecedent_n that_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v consider_v to_o have_v the_o true_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n habet_fw-la rationem_fw-la partium_fw-la subjecti_fw-la 1._o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n have_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o part_n be_v the_o minister_n and_o the_o people_n the_o pastor_n and_o the_o flock_n ecclesia_fw-la utens_fw-la and_o ecclesia_fw-la docens_fw-la as_o some_o speak_v and_o as_o we_o read_v 1_o cor._n 12._o both_o make_v up_o the_o compositum_fw-la the_o church_n and_o this_o church_n must_v needs_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o organical_a part_n no_o minister_n but_o christ_n himself_o in_o the_o church_n invisible_a now_o may_v we_o consider_v both_o these_o part_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n as_o true_o such_o without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n do_v not_o judas_n true_o teach_v and_o do_v not_o thousand_o true_o profess_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o call_v though_o not_o saving_o choose_v without_o any_o measure_n of_o save_a grace_n but_o this_o will_n more_o fit_o meet_v we_o in_o the_o next_o consideration_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n as_o have_v the_o reason_n the_o subject_a matter_n next_o we_o inquire_v what_o the_o subject_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a be_v and_o whether_o it_o also_o may_v be_v consider_v without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n 1._o what_o be_v rhen_n the_o subject_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n trelcatius_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v all_o such_o as_o be_v call_v out_o and_o external_o profess_v the_o faith_n which_o i_o think_v none_o can_v choose_v but_o approve_v of_o when_o they_o consider_v that_o faith_n be_v a_o thing_n invisible_a and_o therefore_o not_o 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