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chronologer_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n to_o which_o we_o now_o add_v the_o word_n of_o bucholcerus_n in_o anno_fw-la 186._o about_o this_o year_n say_v he_o be_v bear_v origen_n the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n at_o alexandria_n which_o depend_v on_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 203._o in_o which_o hieronymus_n write_v origen_n be_v about_o 17_o year_n old_a object_n the_o work_n of_o origen_n examen_fw-la examen_fw-la say_v mr_n t._n as_o of_o old_a be_v count_v full_a of_o error_n and_o dangerous_a to_o be_v read_v so_o as_o now_o they_o be_v we_o can_v hardly_o tell_v in_o some_o of_o they_o what_o be_v origen_n what_o not_o for_o the_o original_a be_v lose_v we_o have_v only_o the_o latin_a translation_n which_o be_v perform_v in_o many_o of_o his_o work_n and_o particular_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n and_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n by_o ruffinus_n it_o appear_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n that_o he_o add_v many_o thing_n of_o his_o own_o in_o so_o much_o that_o erasmus_n in_o his_o censure_n of_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a whether_o he_o read_v ruffinus_n or_o origen_n and_o perkins_n put_v among_o origen_n counterfeit_a work_v his_o commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o be_v not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n 1_o as_o we_o confess_v there_o be_v some_o error_n in_o origen_n and_o in_o who_o not_o so_o there_o be_v many_o learned_a animadver_n animadver_n pious_a and_o most_o spiritual_a thing_n precious_a gospel_n truth_n such_o as_o i_o have_v admire_v when_o i_o read_v they_o consider_v those_o dark_a time_n in_o so_o much_o as_o many_o now_o call_v preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v go_v to_o origen_n if_o they_o have_v but_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_a to_o learn_v to_o be_v gospel-preacher_n 2_o if_o mr_n t._n make_v these_o exception_n against_o origen_n why_o i_o say_v why_o do_v mr_n t._n urge_v origen_n for_o himself_o in_o his_o five_o argument_n in_o his_o exercitation_n as_o we_o hear_v afore_o true_o a_o man_n can_v hardly_o with_o patience_n enough_o look_v upon_o mr_n t._n his_o deal_n in_o this_o when_o we_o urge_v three_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n which_o you_o have_v before_o quote_v and_o translate_v and_o former_o urge_v by_o mr_n m._n for_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n than_o m._n t._n bespatter_v origen_n as_o you_o hear_v and_o origen_n be_v not_o origen_n with_o he_o but_o if_o mr_n t._n urge_v but_o one_o only_a place_n of_o origen_n to_o blast_v infant-baptisme_n with_o the_o scar_n of_o tradition_n and_o to_o contradict_v all_o approve_a antiquity_n afore_o then_o origen_n must_v be_v receive_v or_o else_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v m._n t._n allege_v he_o urge_v no_o other_o by_o which_o to_o pretend_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o tradition_n 3_o master_n t._n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o origen_n on_o luke_n and_o therefore_o he_o intimate_v 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and_o learned_a etc._n etc._n shall_v think_v beside_o or_o contrary_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n let_v that_o go_v among_o his_o own_o proper_a hide_a and_o private_a opiniol_n or_o conceit_n as_o different_z and_z severed_z from_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o common_a judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o last_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o add_v our_o observation_n 1_o that_o according_a to_o the_o design_n in_o hand_n nazianzen_n hold_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n that_o have_v not_o yet_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n not_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o according_a to_o his_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o right_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o paschal_n blood_n on_o the_o doore-post_n exod._n 12._o have_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v hold_v in_o his_o time_n only_o as_o a_o tradition_n he_o have_v not_o argue_v it_o from_o scripture_n 2_o that_o for_o 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if_o a_o infant_n die_v before_o it_o be_v baptize_v but_o nazianzen_n mean_v danger_n of_o bodily_a death_n and_o therefore_o give_v it_o as_o a_o precept_n or_o command_n that_o in_o case_n there_o be_v danger_n that_o the_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o it_o be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n let_v it_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o figure_n thereof_o circumcision_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o obj._n 2._o nazianzen_n say_v h._n d._n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o he_o be_v 30._o year_n old_a as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o his_o life_n answ_n if_o that_o in_o nazianzens_n life_n say_v this_o true_o yet_o this_o may_v be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o persecution_n of_o those_o time_n or_o indisposition_n of_o his_o parent_n or_o other_o press_a necessity_n and_o therefore_o do_v infer_v no_o more_o than_o that_o circumcision_n ought_v not_o after_o the_o israelite_n come_v into_o canaan_n to_o be_v administer_v till_o man_n be_v forty_o year_n old_a because_o so_o long_o it_o be_v defer_v in_o the_o wilderness_n christ_n himself_o be_v not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a yet_o the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n of_o this_o that_o only_o those_o of_o just_a that_o age_n must_v be_v baptize_v sure_o enough_o if_o nazianzen_n his_o baptism_n be_v defer_v past_o childhood_n it_o be_v not_o intend_v by_o he_o for_o a_o regulate_a example_n but_o oft_o in_o that_o oration_n forequote_v in_o several_a place_n exhort_v to_o hasten_v baptism_n baptism_n baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n have_v a_o infant_n lest_o improbity_n snatch_v away_o the_o opportunity_n let_v he_o be_v sanctify_v from_o his_o infancy_n meaning_n baptism_n have_v speak_v in_o the_o very_a next_o precede_v word_n against_o delay_n of_o baptism_n naz._n orat._n â—0_n p._n 648._o see_v also_o p._n 646_o think_v all_o time_n to_o be_v certain_a &_o determine_v for_o baptism_n and_o not_o to_o defer_v it_o after_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a lat._n old_a ibid._n p._n 658._o edit_fw-la paris_n graec._n &_o lat._n and_o you_o hear_v in_o the_o place_n quote_v that_o he_o mention_n defer_v in_o any_o case_n but_o till_o 3_o or_o 4_o year_n old_a or_o less_o sometime_o which_o be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n with_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n at_o three_o month_n or_o three_o week_n unless_o the_o mathematical_a consideration_n of_o word_n speak_v without_o knowledge_n as_o persius_n his_o parrot_n speak_v greek_n baptize_v greek_n one_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v if_o one_o confess_v his_o sin_n though_o there_o be_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v prevail_v with_o some_o second_o mr._n tomb_n object_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la against_o nazianzen_n examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o 1._o he_o object_n with_o a_o interrogation_n but_o do_v greg._n nazianzen_n say_v mr._n t._n seem_v only_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o word_n say_v he_o be_v plain_a that_o nazianzen_n give_v the_o reason_n why_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n shall_v be_v baptize_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o may_v not_o miss_v of_o the_o common_a grace_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o give_v his_o opinion_n of_o other_o that_o they_o shall_v stay_v long_o that_o they_o may_v be_v instruct_v and_o so_o their_o mind_n and_o body_n may_v be_v sanctify_v thus_o mr._n t._n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v first_o if_o greg._n nazianzen_n do_v give_v reason_n why_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n they_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o live_v to_o be_v of_o ripe_a year_n it_o be_v so_o much_o the_o better_a for_o we_o second_o he_o do_v give_v another_o reason_n beside_o that_o of_o partake_v of_o common_a grace_n namely_o 1_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o it_o be_v better_a they_o shall_v be_v sanctify_v without_o a_o feel_n of_o it_o then_o to_o depart_v without_o the_o seal_n so_o he_o think_v they_o be_v sanctify_v too_o in_o infancy_n as_o well_o as_o at_o ripe_a year_n 2_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o reason_n also_o of_o this_o to_o we_o be_v circumsion_n that_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v on_o the_o eight_o day_n etc._n etc._n three_o we_o answer_v that_o all_o three_o reason_n stand_v in_o force_n as_o well_o for_o all_o believer_n infant_n god_n put_v they_o under_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17._o as_o for_o those_o infant_n that_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o death_n four_o that_o nazianzen_n urge_v divers_a divine_a reason_n to_o he_o evince_v for_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n but_o for_o the_o delay_n of_o other_o not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o give_v my_o opinion_n he_o call_v it_o his_o opinion_n and_o what_o be_v it_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o child_n shall_v stay_v till_o three_o or_o four_o year_n old_a more_o or_o less_o and_o what_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o child_n of_o that_o age_n more_o then_o from_o infant_n towards_o baptism_n for_o nazianzen_n himself_o confess_v that_o though_o they_o may_v then_o hear_v and_o answer_v some_o spiritual_a thing_n yet_o they_o understand_v imperfect_o but_o do_v nazianzen_n give_v we_o there_o any_o scripture_n for_o this_o differ_v none_o do_v he_o give_v any_o reason_n even_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o as_o for_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v in_o mind_n and_o body_n second_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o mr._n t._n object_n upon_o our_o allege_v nazianzen_n against_o all_o the_o greek_a father_n in_o effect_n that_o we_o have_v allege_v and_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n first_o thus_o it_o be_v wonder_n to_o i_o say_v mr._n
of_o god_n for_o he_o except_v none_o nor_o infant_n nor_o etc._n etc._n baptism_n etc._n so_o basil_n long_v afore_o ann._n 372._o in_o his_o exhortat_fw-la to_o baptism_n to_o ambrose_n mr._n t._n answer_v nothing_o in_o he_o examen_fw-la but_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o mr._n m._n quote_v he_o but_o make_v no_o exception_n against_o he_o all_o these_o ancient_n that_o we_o have_v translate_v be_v before_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianism_n reusner_n pelagianism_n pelagius_n be_v about_o an._n 104_o helvic_n or_o 413._o el._n reusner_n who_o abettor_n be_v for_o the_o general_a great_a stickler_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o before_o they_o the_o arrian_n oppose_v the_o same_o bucholc_n same_o arius_n be_v about_o the_o year_n 315._o helvic_n or_o 319_o el_n reusner_n &_o bucholc_n of_o these_o see_v somewhat_o before_o in_o our_o animadversion_n on_o mr._n t._n his_o 2_o argument_n in_o his_o 15._o sect._n next_o let_v we_o touch_v those_o ancient_n who_o after_o the_o rise_n of_o anabaptisticall-pelagianisme_a or_o peleganian-anabaptisme_a write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n none_o of_o they_o urge_v it_o as_o only_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n other_o of_o they_o argue_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o take_v it_o not_o up_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n chrysostome_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n 382._o as_o helvicus_n reckon_v be_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n about_o 389._o as_o el._n reusner_n compute_v upon_o those_o word_n 1_o tim._n 3._o not_o a_o novice_n that_o be_v a_o new_a tender_a plant_n say_v the_o apostle_n mean_v not_o one_o so_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n for_o many_o such_o of_o the_o gentile_n or_o nation_n come_v to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v baptize_v there_o be_v other_o passage_n in_o chrysostome_n but_o i_o promise_v but_o to_o touch_v these_o last_o author_n hierom_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n hieronimus_n hieronimus_n 384._o so_o helvicus_n about_o the_o year_n 392._o write_v his_o catalogue_n of_o famous_a writer_n so_o bucholcerus_n say_v thus_o of_o infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o lata_fw-la the_o good_a or_o evil_n of_o a_o child_n be_v much_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o parent_n mean_v education_n unless_o say_v he_o thou_o think_v that_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n in_o case_n they_o have_v not_o receive_v baptism_n be_v only_o guilty_a of_o that_o sin_n and_o that_o the_o sin_n be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o they_o that_o will_v not_o give_v it_o they_o especial_o at_o that_o time_n when_o they_o that_o be_v to_o receive_v it_o be_v not_o able_a to_o oppose_v as_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n be_v the_o gain_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o ancestor_n so_o likewise_o hierom_n in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o dialogue_n against_o the_o pelagian_o thus._n crito_n tell_v i_o i_o pray_v thou_o and_o so_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o question_n why_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v attic_a that_o their_o sin_n may_v be_v do_v away_o in_o baptism_n crito_n what_o sin_n have_v they_o commit_v be_v any_o man_n loose_v that_o be_v not_o first_o bind_v attic_a do_v ask_v i_o the_o evangelicall_n trumpet_n etc._n etc._n shall_v answer_v thou_o rom._n 5._o death_n reign_v from_o adam_n to_o moses_n even_o upon_o they_o that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o similitude_n of_o adam_n transgression_n etc._n etc._n he_o that_o be_v a_o little_a one_o be_v loose_v in_o baptism_n from_o the_o bond_n of_o sin_n of_o the_o parent_n etc._n etc._n and_o lest_o thou_o shall_v think_v that_o i_o mean_v this_o in_o a_o heretical_a sense_n the_o bless_a martyr_n cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n he_o write_v to_o bishop_n fidus_n concern_v baptise_v infant_n mind_v we_o of_o these_o thing_n and_o there_o hierom_n transcribe_v a_o great_a part_n of_o that_o epistle_n of_o which_o you_o hear_v afore_o and_o then_o add_v eloquent_a augustine_n say_v hierom_n write_v long_o since_o to_o marcellinus_n etc._n etc._n two_o book_n of_o baptise_v infant_n against_o your_o that_o be_v the_o pelagian_a heresy_n by_o which_o you_o will_v assert_v that_o infant-baptisme_n that_o note_v how_o the_o pelagian_o oppose_a infant-baptisme_n infant_n be_v baptize_v not_o into_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n according_o to_o that_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o the_o three_o to_o the_o same_o marcellinus_n against_o those_o who_o say_v as_o you_o pelagian_n do_v that_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v void_a of_o sin_n without_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o a_o four_o to_o hilarius_n against_o thy_o doctrine_n pelagius_n also_o he_o be_v say_v to_o have_v write_v other_o book_n in_o special_a to_o thou_o by_o name_n which_o be_v not_o come_v to_o our_o hand_n etc._n etc._n i_o will_v only_o say_v this_o that_o i_o may_v end_v my_o speech_n that_o either_o thou_o pelagius_n must_v make_v a_o new_a form_n that_o after_o you_o have_v baptize_v they_o into_o the_o name_n of_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n you_o baptize_v they_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o if_o you_o have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o baptism_n in_o little_a one_o and_o man_n than_o infant_n must_v be_v baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n thus_o hierom._n to_o all_o this_o of_o hierom_n in_o this_o last_o quotation_n mr._n t._n answer_v in_o his_o examen_fw-la that_o the_o same_o answer_n will_v serve_v as_o to_o augustine_n well_o therefore_o let_v we_o come_v to_o augustine_n augustine_n flourish_v about_o 391_o after_o christ_n helvic_n august_n helvic_n and_o have_v abundance_n concern_v infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o 28._o epistle_n in_o his_o book_n of_o original_a sin_n chap._n 40._o in_o his_o second_o book_n of_o marriage_n and_o concupiscence_n chap._n 20._o in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o sin_n merit_n and_o remission_n chap._n 7_o 8_o 9_o in_o his_o second_o book_n against_o jul._n ca._n 3._o in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o the_o donatist_n chap._n 24_o 458._o 24_o so_o have_v theodoret_n epit_fw-la divin_fw-fr dogmat_fw-la ca._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la he_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n 422._o and_o so_o gennadius_n de_fw-fr ecclesiast_fw-la dogmat_fw-la c._n 31._o he_o flourish_z about_o the_o year_n 458._o in_o his_o four_o book_n against_o the_o two_o epistle_n of_o pelag._n chap._n 8._o it_o be_v a_o tedious_a business_n to_o translate_v all_o these_o place_n for_o i_o that_o intend_v more_o brevity_n have_v too_o much_o other_o business_n and_o too_o little_a time_n for_o this_o work_n and_o for_o many_o reader_n which_o delight_v no_o more_o in_o read_v these_o than_o i_o in_o quote_v of_o they_o but_o that_o mr._n t._n lead_v i_o to_o they_o therefore_o and_o because_o i_o shall_v translate_v somewhat_o of_o augustine_n by_o and_o by_o i_o will_v only_o note_v particular_o of_o augustine_n these_o two_o thing_n first_o that_o augustine_n in_o that_o place_n of_o his_o 7_o 8_o 9_o chapter_n of_o his_o three_o book_n of_o sin_n merit_n and_o remission_n quote_v almost_o all_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus._n second_o that_o augustine_n do_v not_o build_v his_o judgement_n only_o upon_o cyprian_a because_o in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o the_o donatist_n he_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n by_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n now_o all_o these_o especial_o the_o last_o we_o only_o touch_v that_o we_o may_v not_o toil_n ourselves_o and_o the_o reader_n there_o be_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o can_v tell_v whether_o those_o author_n be_v not_o for_o we_o or_o no._n we_o shall_v only_o add_v some_o observation_n upon_o they_o and_o so_o pass_v on_o 1._o that_o these_o five_o last_o author_n chrysost_n hierom_n august_n theod._n genn_n write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n after_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianisme_n hiss_v pelagianisme_n see_v also_o voss_n thes_n theol._n &_o hiss_v though_o some_o of_o the_o man_n be_v afore_o it_o yet_o those_o thing_n afore_o quote_v be_v write_v after_o it_o 2._o that_o they_o write_v those_o thing_n at_o least_o 300_o year_n afore_o mr._n t._n his_o walafridus_n be_v a_o writer_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o tale_n against_o infant-baptisme_n of_o which_o you_o hear_v afore_o &_o we_o give_v our_o answer_n to_o it_o 3._o that_o these_o do_v argue_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o no_o otherwise_o determine_v the_o question_n that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v then_o as_o the_o pious_a learned_a ancient_n have_v hold_v in_o former_a age_n long_o before_o cyprinan_n before_o see_v before_o in_o the_o note_n in_o the_o margin_n on_o cyprinan_n augustine_n shall_v here_o for_o brevity_n sake_n speak_v for_o they_o all_o who_o be_v one_o
most_o ordinance_n as_o to_o preach_v pray_v sacrament_n fast_v thanksgiving_n yet_o we_o leave_v the_o error_n doubt_v not_o of_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o those_o ordinance_n according_a thereunto_o 5._o mr_n t._n think_v that_o adult-baptisme_n may_v be_v sever_v from_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n 13._o word_n exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o p._n 29._o l._n 13._o the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n therefore_o may_v infant_n baptism_n be_v sever_v from_o some_o error_n that_o have_v accompany_v it_o 6._o if_o the_o error_n accompany_v infant-baptisme_n have_v make_v it_o doubtful_a to_o mr_n t._n so_o have_v the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o former_a age_n which_o mr_n t._n have_v confess_v make_v their_o baptism_n doubtful_a to_o we_o mr_n t._n add_v in_o his_o 17._o 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o sect_n of_o his_o exercitation_n towards_o the_o close_a of_o his_o 5._o argument_n that_o of_o old_a 1._o other_o invention_n of_o man_n under_o the_o name_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 2._o a_o wrong_n like_v of_o judaisme_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 3._o the_o use_v of_o it_o as_o a_o main_a argument_n against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 4._o the_o mere_a authority_n of_o the_o council_n under_o cyprian_a the_o council_n of_o milevis_n augustine_n and_o jerome_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n to_o the_o 1._o we_o shall_v answer_v in_o mr_n t._n his_o next_o argument_n in_o number_n the_o 6._o which_o be_v touch_v humane_a invention_n 2._o we_o have_v answer_v already_o indiscuss_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a antiquity_n 3._o we_o say_v now_o that_o we_o have_v produce_v sufficient_a proof_n afore_o out_o of_o approve_a antiquity_n that_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v common_a in_o the_o church_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n hundred_o of_o year_n before_o pelagianisme_n be_v know_v in_o the_o world_n see_v before_o all_o our_o 13._o chap._n and_o chap._n 14._o from_o the_o begin_n thereof_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o quotation_n of_o ambrose_n p._n 148._o 4._o we_o have_v answer_v afore_o chap._n 14._o last_o mr_n t._n add_v these_o word_n as_o the_o close_a of_o his_o five_o argument_n and_o section_n of_o his_o exercit._n 17._o exercitaâ—_n §._o 17._o so_o in_o this_o last_o age_n say_v he_o some_o modern_a man_n seem_v to_o embrace_v this_o tenet_n of_o infant_n baptism_n out_o of_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v go_v headlong_o into_o the_o pernicious_a error_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n and_o their_o mad_a fury_n or_o 2_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o desert_n the_o lead_a man_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n or_o 3_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n rather_o then_o from_o perspicuous_a foundation_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o will_v think_v that_o i_o have_v not_o say_v as_o one_o that_o dream_n who_o shall_v read_v what_o robert_n lord_n brooke_n have_v in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o treatise_n concern_v episcopacy_n daniel_n rogers_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n and_o other_o elsewhere_o we_o answer_v to_o the_o 1_o particular_a thus_o that_o the_o modern_a man_n can_v be_v just_o abhor_v animadver_n animadver_n for_o their_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v by_o any_o tenet_n fall_v headlong_o into_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n and_o if_o mr_n t._n do_v but_o approve_v his_o own_o seven_o argument_n for_o a_o right_a rule_n viz._n that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o error_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v right_a etc._n etc._n then_o it_o will_v follow_v 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right_a but_o the_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n have_v occasion_v either_o the_o birth_n or_o foster_a of_o many_o error_n ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o instance_n 1._o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v 2._o that_o baptism_n be_v regeneration_n 3._o that_o infant_n die_v be_v save_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n of_o surety_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v into_o her_o lap_n which_o be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v alone_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o christ_n 4._o that_o some_o regenerate_a person_n may_v utter_o fall_v from_o grace_n the_o eight_o argument_n that_o which_o have_v cause_v many_o abuse_n and_o fault_n in_o discipline_n arg._n 8_o confirm_v §._o 22._o the_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n from_o many_o abuse_v cause_v by_o it_o confirm_v and_o divine_a worship_n and_o conversation_n of_o man_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o infant-baptisme_n be_v such_o ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o enumeration_n 1._o 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