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A80511 The Anabaptist washt and washt, and shrunk in the washing: or, A scholasticall discussion of the much-agitated controversie concerning infant-baptism; occasiond by a publike disputation, before a great assembly of ministers, and other persons of worth, in the Church of Newport-Pagnall, betwixt Mr Gibs minister there, and the author, Rich. Carpenter, Independent. Wherin also, the author occasionally, declares his judgement concerning the Papists; and afterwards, concerning Episcopacy. Carpenter, Richard, d. 1670? 1653 (1653) Wing C618; Thomason E1484_1; ESTC R208758 176,188 502

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this Consequence which with the rest proceeds ex falso Supposito were true the Presbyterians or strict Calvinists would cristas attollere lift up their Crests and Combs and continue their unnaturall and exotick Interpretations upon the old Proverbiall Sentence The Prov. 16. 4. Lord hath made all things for himselfe yea even the Wicked for the Day of Evill Which the Hebrew Text. Hebr. hands forth Omnes operatus est Jehovah propter se improbum ad Diem mali Jehovah hath made all Persons for himselfe the wicked Man to the Day of Evill And which the English Presbyterians English God hath made all Things for himselfe yea the Wicked for the Day of Judgment and eternall Damnation pouring as it were by the carriage of an Indian upon God that he makes the much-greater and massier Part of Men Women and Children of purpose to Damn them Whenas this good Proverb speaks of the Evill Day of temporall Punishment which according to the Hebrew Dialect is called the Day of Evill or as the Septuagint Sept. oftentimes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of affliction or afflictation Or If they will draw the Text to the punishments of Hell Then must they draw with it that God made indeed the Wicked for the Day or Time of Evill intentione secundariâ with a secundary intention and having fore-looked upon them in the Evils of their sins And thus the Ends here God and the Day of Evill as executing the good Justice of God are as we term it in Logick Fines subalterni And when God made the Wicked Man for the Day of Evill he made him for Himselfe Because when he punishes him with temporall or eternall punishments he glorifies himselfe in his executive justice And the wicked man falling by Death from under the Order of his Mercy fals under the Death-Order of his Justice Now God cannot absolutely Ordaine a Wicked Person for this good End the glorification of the divine Justice by his eternall punishment first Because this Ordination would Eclipse his Goodnesse and his very Nature And secondly Because he should then be contrary to his own Sanctity and absolutely Ordain the wickednesse of the Wicked Person as such the absolute Ordination of which would by a necessity derived from the Ordination bring it necessarily into Being And Non est faciendum malum vel minimum ut eveniat bonum vel maximum The least Evill S●● Rom. 3. 8. may not be done that the greatest good may come of it For Though in the Evils of Punishment we may lawfully chuse the lesser because the lesser Evill tnuc indueret rationem Boni would then put on the State or Nature of a Good as we may rather chuse the losse of our Goods than of our Lives yet Malum Culpae quatenus tale est nunquam potest habere rationem Boni The Evill of sin as such can never put on or have the Nature or state of a good Neither can a good End moralize or sanctifie an Evill Action CHAP. LXXII I Prove it lastly The naturall work of Baptism answerable to the Word the best and most primitive Words signifying the Natures of Things and to the Signe is to wash And Children greatly need Spirituall washing as being greatly defiled with the first sin of their first Parents Therefore Baptism which is a Sacramentall Washing and the first Sacrament greatly agrees with them as not being yet washed And is not in vain with respect to Children Frustrà est quod non potest habere suū usū that is in vain which cannot have its use As Aquinas expounds D Thom. comment in A●●stot l. 1. de Coelo Text. 12. upō Aristotle's Axiom Deus natura nihil frustrà faciunt God and Nature do nothing in vain Which Axiom thus expounded hath a farther aim yet clearly windes up and proves that even the actuall use of Baptism belongs to Infants And If the Thing which is ordained for all who are touchable by the Faith of the Church may not by reason of humane Restraint be communicated to the Little-ones which are many there follows upon wheels that the Restainers render it uselesse and vain with respect to the many Little-ones at the least and that although God will make nothing in vain yet men make vain the will of God Which likewise all unbeleeving Parents in respect of their Children and all Unbeleevers in regard of themselves doe Baptism being ordain'd for all that want it and all wanting Baptism that want Baptismall Grace and all wanting Baptismall Grace that want to be washed from Originall sin and all wanting to be washed from Originall sin who are desiled with it These Arguments are such as the Substration of the Matter will bear For we cannot in this place eventilate Reasons from the Definition or Nature of a Sacrament or from the Effects of Baptism in themselves and in the proper Houses and Places wherein as the Planets they have their plenary Power Because these things being Spirituall mysticall and Lidden our naturall Reason cannot give an exact estimat of them or bring them forth to the most perfect discernment avowance of the reasonable Man And as Revelation first supposes Reason so Reason afterwards in her Discourses of revealed Things supposes Revelation and sometimes walks only by the walls and Edges of it And for the same Reason we are unfurnished of Demonstrations both à Priori and à Posteriori that is Cause-Demonstrations and Demonstrations by the Effects Yet we have Reasons of the second Order and Metal of the Silver-kinde which are perfectly urging so say the Logicians where Demonstrations cannot be had CHAP. LXXIII LET my Standard be now set up at the Doctrine and Praxis of the Church in Primitive Ages Because there is no expresse Precept in Scripture saying Go and Baptize Infants no President in plaine Terms saying They Baptized Children no clear Promise promising clearly Many Benefits shall accrue to Baptized Children many to the Baptizers of them or the like the Church gave to the Baptizing of Infants the Name of an Apostolicall Tradition Which we therefore understand with respect to the expressenesse of Precept President Promise In a generall Sense and much used anciently the whole Body of the new Testament is an Apostolicall Tradition and in a speciall Sense some speciall Truths of it That in See 2. Thes 2. 15. our Sense is an Apostolicall Tradition which was deliver'd by the Apostles to the Church and is not found expressely in divine Scripture though it be expressely found and extant in the writings of Apostolicall Men in Apostolicall Times Or That is an Apostolicall Tradition which hath many faire and excellent Characters in divine Scripture but hath it's explicitnesse or expressenesse from Apostolicall Precepts Practises Promises warranted to the Apostles by Christ their Master which are Unscriptur'd The Baptizing of Infants being thus received by such Tradition the Disciples of the Apostles preached it in their Sermons it fell from their lips in the first warmth of the Gospell like sweet Gumms from the Trees of Arabia heated by the Sun the Fathers of the Church published