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A67101 Protestancy without principles, or, Sectaries unhappy fall from infallibility to fancy laid forth in four discourses by E.W. E. W. (Edward Worsley), 1605-1676. 1668 (1668) Wing W3616; ESTC R34759 388,649 615

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