Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	apostolical_a	church_n	tradition_n	4,989	5	9.5918	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A19033	The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people.	Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616.	1610 (1610)	STC 5450; ESTC S1572	214,939	244

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reason_n be_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n &_o eusebius_n the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n as_o mr_n sm._n himself_o have_v english_v they_o be_v these_o therefore_o to_o defer_v &_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n &_o age_n of_o every_o person_n but_o especial_o as_o concern_v young_a child_n for_o what_o 〈…〉_o there_o to_o bring_v surety_n into_o danger_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n if_o there_o be_v no_o 〈…〉_o of_o hasten_v the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n see_v the_o surety_n be_v disable_v often_o 〈…〉_o to_o perform_v their_o promise_n both_o by_o reason_n of_o mortality_n and_o of_o the_o evil_a dispositi●_n s●●e_z child_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n for_o who_o they_o promise_v in_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n ●_o first_o concern_v tertullian_n it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o thus_o he_o write_v ●n_o he_o be_v fall_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o cataphriges_fw-la or_o montanist_n ●●_o so_o 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ca._n 8._o affirm_v that_o ●●tullian_n deny_v baptism_n to_o young_a man_n and_o young_a widow_n and_o his_o own_o urd_n here_o relate_v do_v seem_v to_o intimate_v some_o such_o like_a thing_n in_o say_v 〈…〉_o far_o and_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n and_o ●●_o of_o every_o person_n and_o this_o he_o mean_v of_o other_o then_o young_a child_n for_o ●er_o he_o speak_v of_o young_a child_n say_v especial_o concern_v young_a child_n ●_o 4._o crispen_n state_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 47._o 48._o witness_v that_o tertullian_n bring_v ●_o extreme_a unction_n after_o baptism_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n offer_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o ●er_o the_o like_a dream_n of_o the_o montanist_n now_o if_o tertullia_n judgement_n be_v ●and_n against_o infant_n baptism_n why_o not_o also_o for_o extreme_a unction_n the_o sign_n ●f_n the_o cross_n and_o the_o like_o his_o error_n see_v all_o these_o be_v fruit_n proceed_v ●om_n the_o 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luk._n 4._o 16._o 21._o act._n 8._o 35._o &_o 13_o 15._o and_o 26._o 7._o ●_o tim._n 4_o 13._o 2_o tim._n 4_o 2._o and_o together_o with_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v after_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n with_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n mat._n 28_o 19_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 23._o etc._n etc._n act._n 20_o 7._o etc._n etc._n 4._o some_o of_o the_o psalm_n of_o david_n before_o and_o after_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ●ord_n the_o same_o be_v first_o read_v and_o open_v by_o the_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n be_v ●ing_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n together_o to_o the_o praise_n of_o god_n and_o our_o own_o edification_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n eph._n 5_o 19_o col._n 3_o 16._o mat_n 26_o