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conclude_v and_o so_o remain_v to_o her_o death_n you_o may_v for_o we_o but_o that_o be_v no_o point_n of_o faith_n whatsoever_o the_o former_a be_v hieron_n advers._n heluidium_n august_n de_fw-fr s._n virginit_fw-la cap_n 4._o the_o papist_n will_v have_v the_o holy_a ghost_n hold_v his_o divinity_n by_o tradition_n tradition_n harding_n against_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o english_a church_n part_n 2._o cap._n 1._o 1._o athanas._n de_fw-fr communi_fw-la essentia_fw-la patris_fw-la filii_fw-la &_o sâ—iritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la dydimus_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la basil._n contra_fw-la eunomium_fw-la &_o de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la nazianzen_n orat_fw-la 5._o de_fw-fr theolog._n ambros._n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la cyril_n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la lib._n 7._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la august_n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la the_o father_n assure_v themselves_o they_o have_v express_v scripture_n for_o the_o godhead_n of_o the_o holy_a 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