can faine or imagin But I vvill bee so bold as to take this meanes from theÌ„ and then I vvill aske them hovv they knovve that the nevve and old testameÌ„t are not meere fables and fictioÌ„s as the Atheistes say that they are For they are of opinion that the Romaine Church maye deceue bee deceeued and therfore they vvill not beleeue her for the number of canonicall bookes nor for the meaning of scripture hovv then can they credit her vvhen shee defineth that the old and nevve testament are holy scripture her authoritie is one and the same in the affirmation of this and of other thiges if theÌ„ they beleeue her not in those thinges they caÌ„ not beleeue her in this For as if the Astrologer saye that to morrovv shall be rayne that vvith in three monethes ther shall bee rayne I caÌ„ not beleeue this to bee true for his assertion vnlesse I also beleeue that bicause his authoritie is the same and yet I maye beleeue rather that vvithin three monethes vvee shall hauerayne theÌ„ that to morrovv vvee shall haue rayne bicause that in it selfe is more likely so if vvee beleeue one thing vvhich the Romain Church affirmethe and not another vvee beleeue not any thing bicause shee sayeth so but ether for the probalitie of the thinge or for some other reason vvhich pleasethe vs. Vvherfore seing that out reformers beleeue not the Romain Church in all pointes it must neede follovve that they can not beleeue that the old and nevve testament are holy scriptures bicause shee sayeth so but for some other imaginations vv ch they haue for if they belecued this bicause shee sayeth so they vvould beleeue other thinges also vvhich shee auouchethe bicause her authoritie being the same deserueth the same credit in the one and in the other But let vs suppose that they beleeue that the old and nevv testament are holy scripture bicause the RomaiÌ„ Church sayeth so yet bicause they affirme that the Romaine Church maye lye and hathe also lyed loudly in many importaunt matters it follovveth that they haue herby no assuraunce of Scripture bicause as the Church in their opinion hathe erred in other thinges so may she in this if she may peraduenture she hathe erred and so they haue no assuraunce of scripture They vvill saye peraduentur that they are assured by tradition froÌ„ tyme out of mynde vnto this present that those bookes are holye Scripture bicause our forfathers euer esteemed them soe But nether can this bee a sufficient vvarrauut bicause they are vvont to saye that all thinges necessarie to bee beleeued are conteined in scripture and that therfore they vvill beleeue no traditions And if they beleeue that these bookes are holy scripture bicause by tradition so it is deliuered vnto them vvhy do they not beleeue the real presence and the Sacrifice of the Masse Vvhy coÌ„temne they the Fast of lent Images holy vvater the signe of the crosse such like vvhich vvee haue by the same tradition by vvhich vve haue the scriptures Yea seing that Tradition is nothing else but an opinioÌ„ or custome of the Churche not vvritten in holy vvritte but yet deliuered by the handes of the Churche from tyme to tyme and from Christians to ChristiaÌ„s euen vnto the last age and Christians if the Churche can erre she may allovv of euil traditions and so traditions also may bee erroneous coÌ„sequently can be noe sufficient vvarrant vnto the Reformers for the authoritie of holy scripture They vvill say peraduenture that they beleeue most voices and therfore seing that all the vvorld allovveth these bookes for holy scripture they vvill ioine vvith them in this opinion bicause the voice of the people is the voice of God but nether can this voice assure theÌ„ for ether they vnderstand by this commoÌ„ voice the voice of the vvholle vvorld or the voice of the Christian vvorld if they meane the voice of the vvholle vvorld theÌ„ haue they moe voices against them then for them bicause the greatest parte of the vvorld vvas euer Pagane if they meane the ChristiaÌ„ vvorld then in deed the most voices are for Scripture bicause the Catholike Church vvhich allovveth of scripture vvas is and shal be the greatest part of Christianitie but bicause they saye that this Church may erre they can haue no assuraunce of scripture by this voice They vvill saye peradueÌ„ture that they belceue that scâ—ipture is the vvord of God bicause their ovvn Churche vvhich is the true Churche affirmeth it to be so But nether vvill this shifte serue their turne Bicause first of all they caÌ„ not proue their Churche to bee the true Churche not their Pastours to be the true Pastours Bicause their Church hathe not the markes of the true Churche hauing nether succession from the Churche planted by the Apostles vvhich should make it Apostolique nether hauing euer possessed the greatest parte of the knovvn vvorld vv ch should make it Catholike and being so farre froÌ„ being one that it is diuided into coÌ„trarie sectes so farre also from being holy that it leadeth to all vice and Atheisme yea hauing all the Markes of heresie as my second booke demonstrateth As for their pastours they can not proue their mission as also is proued But if I should graunt them that their Church is the true Church yet by their Churches vvarraunt they can haue no assuraunce of Scripture bicause they are of opinioÌ„ that the true Church maye erre and consequeÌ„tly their Church also maye erre and if it maye erre in other thinges it may erre in this and if it may erre in this peradueÌ„ture it hath erred in this and so they haue no assuraunce of Scripture Vvherfore laying a side the Churches authoritie as insufficient in their opinion I demaund vvhat assuraunce they haue of scripture They can not alleage Scripture to proue scripture bicause no part of scripture affirmeth that the bookes called Scripture are the vvord of God dictated and indighted by his spirit And if Scripture did affirme it selfe to be holy Scripture yet vvere not that a sufficient vvarraunt for as I may doubt vvhether the bookes called Scripture be the vvord of God so may I doubte of that testimonie vvhich scripture giueth of her selfe vnlesse by some other meanes I bee assured that these vvritinges are the vvord of God They vvill say peraduenâ— that the very maiestie of the phrase of Scripture and the diuine matters and mysteries vvhich it conteinethe do argue that it is the vvord of God But this ansvvere is also insufficieÌ„t bicause to a vvordly man or Prophane Philosopher the stile of Scripture seemeth base and barbarous and the mysteries seeme to bee nothing else but dreames and imaginations the histories seeme tales and the matters seeme ether follies or impossibilities and so they vvould seeme vnto vs also vvere it not that vvee haue a reuerent conceite of them bicause vvee beleeue them to bee the vvord of God Vvherfore Iulian the Apostata Celsus Porphirius Apion
and others contemned scriptures bothe for the Phrase and matter and esteemed no more of them then vve do of Aesops fables They may ansvvere mee peraduenture and novv I knovv not vvhat else they can ansvvere that the spirit assurethe them that these bookes no other are the holy Scripture But against this spirit I haue disputed at large in the â—rst booke and third Chapter and so I might referre the reformer and the reader vnto my argumentes vvher vvith in the afore sayd place I haue refuted this phantasticall spirit yet to ease them bothe of that labour I vvill in a vvorde reiecte this ansvvere by reiecting this spirit I vvill aske of him that thinkes him selfe moste deeplye inspired vvhy bee beleeueth this his ovvn priuate spirit rather then the common spirit of the Churche especially seing that it is more like that God vvil more amplye communicate his spirit to his Churche then to a priuate man and if the Churche may be deceued as they say shee may not vvith standing that Christ promised her a spirit vvhich should teach her all veritie Io. 14.15 vvhy maye not euery priuate maÌ„ doubte at least least his ovvne priuate Spirit bee a lying and deceiuing spirit hee ansvvereth that his spirit assures him that it is a true spirit But hovve dothe it assure him by vvhat reasons miracles or reuelations by no such meanes saieth hee it dothe assure me but yet I ame sure Vvhy art thou sure if nether for reasons nor miracles nor reuelations then art thou sure only bicause thou thinkest thy selfe sure And so did Suenlkfeldius thinke him selfe sure of a right spirit vvhen he denyed all scriptures and vvould bee ruled only by the invvard spirit and yet hee for all his suernes vvas deceued and consequently so mayst thou bee thoughe thou thinke thy selfe assured And do not all heretiques thinke then selues to bee inspired vvith the right spirit As they therfore are deceued So mayst thou bee vnlesse thou haue some certaine rule and Iudge suche as the Churche is to acertaine thee of thy spirit If novve some infidel or atheist vvould deny the old and nevve testament to bee holy scripture hovve vvouldst thou conuince them vvhat a Catholike could saye for the proofe of scripture I haue allready declared I demaund therfore vvhat thou vvho takest vppon the to bee a reformed Christian couldst alleage for the authoritie of Scripture Vvouldst thou alleage the Churches definition or tradition or common coÌ„sent hee vvould saye Tushe tell mee not of Churche Tradition Fathers Councels all these by your ovvn confession maye erre and haue erred in other as great matters as this and therfore this can bee no sufficient vvarraunt Vvouldst thou saye that scripture giueth testimony of her selfe that shee is Scripture hee vvoulde aske thee vvheare and thou shouldst not bee able to quote the place if thou couldst yet hee vvould say that Scripture is not to bee beleeued in her ovvne cause and that as hee doubteth of scripture so hee doubteth vvhether it bee Scripture vv ch affirmethe these bookes to be Scriptur Vvouldst thou say that the phrase of scripture argueth it to bee god his ovvn vvord Hee vvould tell thee that hee vvill shevve thee as good phrases in Tullie Liuie other ê“phane vvriters And if thou shouldst saye that thy spirit assures thee that these bookes are of Gods ovvn indighting hee vvould laughe at thee and tell thee that Suenkfeldius by his spirit denyed all scripture and that hee hathe no more assuraunce of thy spirit then of his Yea hee vvill come vppon thee vvithe the coÌ„mon spirit of the Romain Churche and tell thee that if that spirit maye deceue as thou sayest it maye muche more may thy priuate spirit deceue thee and all that vvill bee so mad as to beleeue thee And so if thou contemne the authoritie of the Romain Churche thou shallt bee able to assure him no more of Scripture then of a Robin Hoods tale If the Churches authoritie then bee reiected as insufficient vvee haue no probable assuraunce of scripture and so vvee may iustly doubte least it bee but some Apocriphal vvriting vv ch hathe hetherto been called the vvord of God to keepe fooles in avve And if vvee may doubte of the bookes of Scripture vvee maye as iustly doubte of the conteÌ„tes and so the mysteries of the Trinitie and incarnation Christes life doctrine Passion death and resurrection may bee called in question and soe Christian religion falleth and seing that after an Apostasie from Christianitie vvee haue noe reason to imbrace Turcisnie or the Iudaicall ceremonies much lesse the superstitions of Paganes and Idolatours adevve all religion and vvelcome Atheisme And thus thou seest gentle reader hovve contempt of Scriptur must needs follovv the contempte of the Churches authoritie vvhich being layed a side vvee haue not so much as probable assuraunce of Scripture or Christian religion Vvherfore let vs holde faste vvith the Catholike Apostolike and Romaine Churche and let vs neuer linke our selues in religion vvith the reformers vvho like Chammes contemne their mother the Churche least vvee bee inforced to shake handes vvith Atheistes vvhose frendship vvee can not refuse if vvee breake amitie and league vvith the Romaine Churche as is most euidently demonstrated The fourth Chapter shevveth that in admitting some bookes of Scripture and reiecting others they open the gapp to contempt of all Scripture and religion Vve say commonly that a lyer had need to haue a good memorie for othervvise he being allvvayes ready to speake not as the truthe requireth but as he may best for the present serue his ovvn turne vvill bee in daunger to contradict him selfe and to varye in his ovvn tale for vvant of vvhich memorie the reformers do often eate their vvordes and goe from that vvhich before they stood vnto And amongest many other examples this may serue for one that they vvill needes receue scripture at the Romain Churches hand and for this point accompte her authoritie sufficient but their memorie is so shorte that forgetting them selues they vvill not accepte of the number of the bookes of scripture vvhich shee hathe deliuered vnto them althoughe they haue not any other vvarrauÌ„t of Scripture then they haue of the number of the bookes of Scripture vvhich is the Romain Churches authoritie I must therfore desire them better to remeÌ„ber them selues For if the Romaine Churche bee of sufficient credit to vvarraunt vs of Scripture vvhy is not her authoritie a sufficieÌ„t vvarraunt also for the nuÌ„ber of the bookes of Scripture Or if shee maye erre in the nuÌ„ber of the bookes of scripture she may erre also in scripture and so if they vvould remember them selues better and tubbe their brovves harder they vvould see plainly that ether they should take all or none of her bicause her authoritie is as sufficieÌ„t being one and the same to vvarraunt vs for the number of the bookes of Scripture as for scripture If they beleeue then that ther is scripture bicause shee
visible heade here in earthe pag. 365. Christ did not suffer the paynes of hell as Caluin most impiously contendeth that hee did 337. The reason vvhy the Churche only shoulde Iudge of scriptures deduced euen from the doÌ„ctrine of the reformers p. 44. vvhy it is called apostolicall 190. Diuers hereticall opinions aboute the fall of the Churche 198. a difference betvvixte Scripture and the Churches definitions 43. The true Churche can not be inuisible p. 206. it is not confined as hereticall sectes are 231. A Contention betvvixte the Ievves and Samaritanes resemblinge very vvell the controuersye betvvixte Catholiks and heretiks 129. The conuenience that the Churche of God shoulde haue a visible headâ— 133. vsq ad 136. The diuers offices of conscience vvith the greate svvaye it beareth in all our actions 58. the reformers take it avvaye 544. The Contrarietie of Caluins assertions and the Scriptures 594. In vvhat manner our Cooperation in diuers kinds is required notvvithstanding the sufficiencie of Christes passion p. 263. The first Councell called in Ierusalem by the Apostles 189. Proofes of a creation 648. D The deceipt that heretikes vse by places of scripture no sufficient vvarrant of sounde doctrine to alleadge bare scripture for it 37. Diuers secrette derogations by Luther froÌ„ Christ vvhereby hee seemeth to pull at the diuinitie it selfe 24. After vvhat manner the Deuill do the seeke to imitate Christ by heretikes 30. The difference of scholershipp life and conuersation betvvixte the planters of Catholike religion and the first brochers of heresie 121. The difference betvvixte an heretike and a Schismatike 175. An apparant difference betvvixte sinne and the payne of sinne 173. The difficultie amongest the reformers to call any kinde of councelle 154. the likelihoode of disagreement amongest them ibid. no vvaraunt to rely vppon their sentence supposinge agreement 152. The manner of discussion or examination at the day of Iudgement 298. From vvhence desperation proceedeth 326. The ruine that proceedeth of dissention 212. Dissention arguethe heretikes to bee the sinagogue of Satan 219. The deepe dissimulation of the reformers and their trayterous meaninge to Christ him selfe made manifest by an example 357. The manifolde diuisions and sectes of the late reformers 221. the same acknovvledged by many of them 224. The reason vvhy all the Doctours and Pastours of the Churche can not erre 100. E Epiphanius very fitly comparethe heretikes to vipers of diuers kindes 224. Erasmus hovv hee liketh of Luthers doctrine 246. Diuerse Examples out of the olde and nevv testament for prayer to saints 355. for religions respect to reliques and images 356. The Euchariste and real presence proued 223. 703. The denial of it calleth all the mysteries of faith in doubte ibid. The Eutichian heresie 32 Examples of pryde selfe loue in heretikes 66. The Excellencie of Christes preisthood aboue all others and hovve it differeth from them 286. A triple Exposition of that place of sainct Ihon exierunt ex nobis applyed to the first or cheefe heretikes of euery sect 156. Vvho are sayed to bee sent by Extraordinarie mission 8. vvhy the fore sayed mission is to bee proued by miracles ibid. F A comparinge of auncient fathers vvith the late reformers and nevve bible clerkes 93. the difference betvvixt them ibid. 121. Hovv the reformers cut them selues from the Churche by refusing fathers 94. The force of religion 113. In vvhat sence faythe is sayed not to haue increased from the beginning or no nevve thinges to haue beene defined by councells 170. the same expressed by a similitude 170. The reasoÌ„ vvhy faythe admitteth no noueltie 171. One obstinate errour in a matter of faythe depriuethe a man of all infused fayth 180. MaÌ„s feticitie in Paradise vvherein it coÌ„sisted 253. The force of true amitie and frendshippe 339. Hovv disciplinable feare and hope make men in euerye vvell ordered common vvealthe 514. the reformers take them bothe avvaye 516. fovvre kindes of feare ibid. Faythe only dothe not iustifie 532. it may bee separated from good vvorkes 530. Luthers false dealinge in this point as appeareth in his Germane translation 528. Manifest proofes for free vvill 561. vsq ad 566. G The reason that vvee may suspect the Gospellers for false prophetes 25. vvhy they translate elders for Preestes 368. By vvhat meanes God deliuered religion in the lavve of nature in the lavve vvritten and in the lavve of grace 105. hee vvilleth not sinne but only permiteth it 452. Good before bad in all kindes 165. proofes of a God heade 646. The nature of goodnes 229. proofes that God is not the authour of sinne 453. The Gospellers take from Christ the title of an eternall Preest 291. they deny him to bee a Preest according to the order of Melchisedech 293. The Gospellâ—rs especially Caluin blasphemously derogate froÌ„ Christe knovvledge accusing him of ignorauÌ„ce in many thiÌ„ges 311. they make God the only sinner 457. they make him an vnreasonable prince 462. they make him a most cruel tyraunt 465 in their opinion hee might as vvell exact the obseruation of the lavve of beasts as of men 464. H The maner of refutiÌ„g heresies before couÌ„cels 237. Heretikes vrged to shevve scripture for their extraordinary mission 18 their absurde ansvvere vrged to shevve their succession 11. hovve heretikes may bee termed parricides 8â— theenes 3â— hovv they imitate Aesops crovv 33. hovv they are compared by Epiphanius to vipers of diuers kyâ—desâ— 224. by others to the Cadmean brethern 225. to SaÌ„psons foâ—es ibid to vvaspes by Tertullian ibid. Vvhy heretikes couet to decide all thinges by the bare letter of scripture 35. Many euident demonstrations that if euer vvere any heretikes the reformers are also heretikes 184 vsq ad 186. The reason vvhy heretikes seeme to giue so much to temporall princes 483. The grosse absurditie of heretikes in denying all kynde of honour to Saincts 348. of vvhat smalle vertue and efficacie heretikes make sacraments to bee 410. their 2. reasons that they attribute so litle force to them refuted and reiected 413. their erronious and impious opinion of the forme of vvordes vsed in sacraments 427. S. Hierome recurreth to the Pope of Rome in a doubt concerning the holy Trinitie 143. Hierome of pragues beastly behauiour to a crucifix 347. S. Hilarius his counsel to a perplexed man in religion 226. Three kiÌ„des of honour accordiÌ„g to three kindes of excellencie 349. vvhich is devve to God only and vvhich to saynts ibid. The reason vvhy vvee giue a religious honour to sayntes bodyes images and reliques 351. By the honour giuen to sayntes God is honoured and more them if vvee honoured him alone 352. I Idlenes the perfection of a Christian lyfe according to the reformers 607. Idolatrie vvhat it is 353. Vvhat kinde of imperfections Christ vndertooke in our nature 315. why hee refused ignoraunce 316. The congruitie of the Incarnation of the second person 255. The inconuenience that follovveth relyinge vppon bare scripture or the naked letter 40. The great inconuenience that vvoulde follovv in the
doe set the gate open vnto all heretikes and heresies THE deuil hathe alvvaies played the ape euen from the beginning for after that he perceiued that he could not be God in deed to vvhich dignitie by climing thoughts he had ambitiously aspired he endeuoured by al meanes possible so to bringe his intentes to passe that he might at least go for a God and be taken for a God and therfore like an ape he hathe euer imitated God so neerly that he vvould be honoured and serued in the same fashion and manner as he savve the true God vvas vvorshipped Tert l. pras c. 40. God is serued vvith sacrifice as vvith a seruice devv vnto diuine Maiestie the deuil vvas euer honoured amoÌ„gest the paganes vvith his Hecatombs and Sacrifices euen by the Emperours of the vvorld God hathe his preests the deuil his flamins God hath his sacraments the deuil his expiations and ceremonies God hathe his baptisme his Euchariste his Nonnes and the deuil hath his vvashings his oblation of bread and his vestal virgins and as God promiseth a heauen to his seruanntes and vvorshippers so dothe the deuil promise his Elisian feelds and threatneth his stigiane lake Tert. ibid. And euen as the deuil by idolatours hathe imitated Gods sacrifice Sacramentes and manner of vvorship so by heretikes he hathe alvvaies affected to be as like as may be to Christe and his Apostles in citation and allegation of scripture Vvherfore Vincentius Lyrinensis noteth it to haue been the practise of heretikes the members of the deuil l. cont proph â— â—7 to alleage scriptures against the true Christians and meÌ„bers of Christe as once the deuil their head against Christ Iesus our head vvrested a place of scripture to proue that he must needs caste him selfe headlong from the pinnacle of the temple to proue him selfe the sonne of God Mat. 4. Marcion as Vvitnesseth Tertullian to prone that the vvorlde vvich he imagined to be of an cuil nature vvas created of an euil God l prase c 51. vsed that place of Saint Matthevv Mat. 7. Non potest arbor bona malos fructus facere a good tree can not bring forthe euil frutes l. de carne Christie 20. Valentinus as the same autour relateth to persvvade the vvorld that Christs body vvas framed of the substance of the heauens and consequeÌ„tly vvas noe true flesh nor truly conceued borne of the Virgin Marie but ra ther passed through her vvoÌ„be as through a Pipe taking noe substaunce of her alleaged saint Paules vvords vvho comparing the first Adame from vvhome vve fetch our carnal pedegree vvithe the second Adame Christ Iesus from vvhom vve are descended spiritually vseth these vvords The first man of earth earthly 1. Cor. â—â— the second man from heauen heauenly Not knovving or not vvilling to knovv that Christe is called heauenly ether in respect of his diuinitie and diuine person or bicause he vvas not earthly that is subiect to sinne vvhich proceedeth from earthly and terrene desires or bicause his body by right vvas from the first moment of his conception celestial that is glorious as are the bodies of the blessed vvich therfore saint Paule calleth also spiritual and aftervvarde vvas the first body that rose to that glorie to vvich it euer had good right Ibidam bicause a gloriouse soule such as Christs vvas from the first infusion of it into the body Io. 4. required as devve a glorious body but Christe vvould haue his body to vvant this devve vvhilest he liued vvith vs that he might suffer for vs vvich hee could not haue doone in a glorified body The Arrians to proue God the sonne inferiour to his father and not consubstantial nor coaequal vnto him brought his ovvn vvords against him the father is greater then I omitting many pregnaunt places vvich auouch the sonne to bee consubstantial and aequal vnto him to vvich places this also is not contrarie August l. 1. Trin. 6.7 bicause it proueth only that Christ as man is inferiour to his father The Nestorians by those places by vvich vve proue tvvo naturs in Christ the one humaine the other diuine proued tvvo persons in Christ The Eutichianes by the same places of scripture by vvich Catholikes do proue that in Christ vvas but one person endeuoured to proue that in Christ vvas but one nature And it hath been the propertie of all heretikes to make no bones of scriptures but prodigally to spende them and to lauis he them out to proue therby their heresies vvere they neuer so phantastical Supra Hic fortasse sayeth Vincentius Lyrinensis aliquis interroget an haeretici diuinae scripturae testimonijs vtantur Vtuntur planè vehementer quidem nam videas eos volare per singula quaeque diuinae legis volumina Here perchaunce some vvill demaund vvhether that heretikes do vse the testimonies of holy scripture they vse them assuredly and that vehemeutly for you shall see them flye through euery volume of the heauenly lavve Read sayeth he the vvorkes of Paulus Samosatenus of Priscilianus Iouinianus or Eunomius and thou shalt fynd an infinite heap of examples allmost noe page omitted vvich is not dyed and coloured vvith sentences of the olde and nevv Testament Remember sayeth Hilarius that there is no her tike vvhich doth not fayne that his blasphemies vvhich he preacheth are according vnto Scriptures Orat. â— conâ— Const. And faint Austine is of opinion that heresies proceede from no other fountaine then scriptures vvroÌ„gly expounded and crookedly vvrested Non aliunde natae sunt haereses Tract 1â— in 10. nisi dum scripturae bonae non intelliguntur benè From no other place heresies doe proceed but vvhilest good scripturs are euilly vnderstood But yet herin these heretikes are liberal of that vvhich is none of their ovvn and like Aesops crovve they proudly decke them selues vvith other byrds fethers For vvhat right or title haue they to scriptures of vvhich they are so prodigal or hovv came they to get the possession of scripturs truly as theeues take possession of other mens goods For Catholikes haue had the scripturs in their keeping tyme out of mynde as all histories all vvritings of the fathers all councells and ancient tradition vvill vvitnesse for vs and so at least by prescription Catholikes are the true and lavvful possessours of scripturs Yea histories and the ancient bookes of the fathers vvho from the first age alleaged scriptures are arguments that vve are the lavvfull heires to the Apostles concerning the inheritaunce of scripture Second booke chap. 1. bicause as herafter shal be proued vve only are the successours to the ancient fathers and Apostles them selues And seing that such arguments vvould cast them in lavve if the coÌ„trouersie vvere but about apeece of ground I see noe reason but that if the reformers of this tyme and the Catholike should put this case to any indifferent iudge to vvit vvhether they or Catholikes are the lavvfull possessours
and heresies PArricide and murder of parents in old tyme vvas deemed so hainous an offence so vnvvorthy a facte as being not only contrarie to reason but also repugnaunt vnto nature that Solon the famouse lavv-maker decreed no lavve against it not for that he thought it not vvorthy punishment but bicause â—ee counted it more barbarouse and inhumain then could be by man comitted And in deed mans nature so much abhorred this vn naturall fact that vntill six hundred yeares after Rome vvas built no man euer is read of so vnkiÌ„de as vvho could finde in his hart to imbrevv his haÌ„des in his pareÌ„tes bloud Cic. pro Roscio Lucius Ostius as some do think vvas the first vvho laying aside all humanitie against natures propension and naturall affection layed violent hands vppon his father depriued him of being of vvhom he had receiued being Vvhich facte vvas no sooner committed but nature abhorred it the Romaines then the most ciuill people to represent the enormitie of the offence diuised a punishmeÌ„t vvhich should not only be a iust payne but also an embleme of the fault Cic supra Iuuen Saâ—yr â— Plut. in vi â—a Ostij They decreed first of all that the murderer should be sevved vp in a lether sack SecoÌ„dly that sacked he should be cast into the vvater thirdly vvith him vvere included a cock a viper an ape and a dogge to acompanie him at his death vvhose natures he had imitated in his life he vvas inclosed in a sack and so cast into the riuer that so at one tyme he should lose the light of the sonne vvhich he could not see of the fyer vv ch he could not feele of the aire in vv ch he vvas not permitted to breath of the vvater in vv ch he svvimming vvas not refreshed of the earth vv ch he touched not and so he vvas depriued at one tyme of the benefit of the sonne and the fovvre elemeÌ„tes of vvhich all vvere produced bicause he had been vnkind and vnnaturall to him of vvhom he vvas begotten His companions at his death vvere a Cocke bicause as this byrd fighteth vvith his fire and treadeth the heÌ„ne vvhich hatched him so he hath been iniuriouse to him that begotte him A viper bicause as this beast eateth him selfe out of his damnes belly so he ruineth him vvho gaue him being an ape bicause as he imitateth man in his actions and some vvhat resembles him in forme of body yet is in deed no man but a beast so this vnnaturall murderer caryeth the shape of a man but in conditions is noe man bicause he hath cast of all humanitie And lastly a dogg that this creaturs faythfull seruice to his master vvho only feeds him may confound this monster and coÌ„demne his treacherie vvho hath been so false to his pareÌ„t vvho hath not only fedd him but begotten him This kinde of death in myne opinion vvere a punishment not vnfitly to be layed on heretikes especially the most mallicious for vvith theÌ„ vvho erre not of mallice I vvishe more geÌ„tle dealiÌ„g vvho are so vnnaturall children to Christ their father as shall appear in the third booke vvho so reuile miscall the ancieÌ„t fathers of vvhom they receiued fayth and religion and are so vnkind vnto the Catholique Church their mother vvhich by the Sacrament of Baptisme regenerated them and gaue them their spiritual being For they deserue to be depriued at one tyme of the heauens and elemeÌ„tes of vvhich all thiÌ„gs are in some sorte produced vvho coÌ„temne the Churche the councells the fathers and cheef pastours of vvhom and by vvhome they receiued their supernaturall being by vvhich they are Christianes They deserue a cock at their death bicause as the cocke fighteth often tymes vvith his sire and abuseth the henne that hatched him so they contend vvith ancient fathers and as much as in them lyeth deflovver their mother the Churche vv ch bare them spiritually a viper also ought to dye vvith them bicause like vipers by schismes and heresies they eare them selues out of the vvombe of the Church an ape must also suffer vvith them bicause as he resembleth man but is in deede a beast so they like apes imitate true Christians bearing the name of Christe as they do admitting certayne scriptures and Sacramentes as they do deuising superintendeÌ„tes for the bishops of the Church ministers for preestes tables for aultars a prophane Cene and supper for the sacred Eucharist and yet in deed are no true christianes but monstrouse infidells and vvorse then Ievves and Paganes Th. â— 2 q. 〈◊〉 ar 6. a dogge also to make vp the number they vvorthily deserue to put them in mynd that dogges may teach them fidelitie for dogges though they receiue some tymes blovves and neuer any greater benefit then crustes and bones yet are so faythfull to their masters that they vvill not leaue theÌ„ todeath vvheras the heretike is so vngratefull and vnfaythfull to Christe and his spouse the Churche that for no other cause then an itching humour of pride and self love hee vvill ronne after euery sectmaster that can only dropp a fevv textes of scripture interpreted by his ovvne spirit leauing the Churche ancieÌ„t fathers and consequently Christ him selfe bicause they ever vvent together and vvho heareth one heareth the other But least I condemne them to the punishmeÌ„t of parricides for conteÌ„pt of ancieÌ„t fathers before I proue them to bee guiltie of the fault I vvill sett dovvne vvord by voord their ovvne sayings and assertions by vvhich shall appear vvhat respect they beare and vvhat kindnes they shevv tovvards their ancient forfathers Ex Epiph. her Basilides an infamous heretike vaunted that he and his only knevve the truth and that all his forfathers vvere sues canes hogges and dogges not vvorthy of the margarites of his doctrine Lib. s.c. â—0 The Valentinians sayeth Ireneus if you vrge them vvith scriptures vvhich they can not ansvver vvill denye them if you prouoke them to be tryed by tradition deliuered vnto vs by a succession of preestes and fathers aduersantur traditioni dicentes se non solum presbyteris sed etiam apostolis existentes sapientiores sinceram inuenisse veritatem they oppose against tradition saying that they being vviser then the preests and apostles 〈◊〉 3. haue found out the sincere veritie Arius as before I haue rehearsed thought none of the fathers comparable vnto him Nestorius disdained to read their vvorks and our reformers of this age shevv by their vnreuerent and rayling speeches against the fathers that they are descended of the same race of parricides and reuilers of their ancient fathers To beginne therfore vvith the first patriarch of this nevv religion Martin Luther that man of God although by his ovvne confession he vvas so familiar vvith the deuill that he hathe eateÌ„ a bushell of salte vvith him in his book against the king of England hauing called him blokhead l. â— cont Reg. Axgl. fol. 348 beetlehead grossehead
vvas sovved rooted come to some height and ripenes before euer the false Apostles scattered the nettleseed and hempseed of their heresies Yea not only by the Apostles generally in the vvorld but also by their successours particulerly in euery particuler country fay the grevv and florished before heresie vvas sovved â—i â— for as Bozius in his fourth booke of the signes of the Churche learnedly proueth the first conuersion of euery country froÌ„ paganisme vnto Christianitie vvas not to heresie but to the true fayth Romain religion and vvhen that vvas receiued then heresie being but a corruption of true fayth as vineger is of vvine begane to take place then the cockle spronge vp after the good corne And therfore Sainct Paule giues vs this marke to knovv an heretike and for heresie that they arise after the true religioÌ„ Act. 80 I knovve saieth he that rauening vvolues that is heretikes after my departure shall enter amongest you not sparinge the flocke So that after sainct Paule had preached and persuaded true fayth the false prophetes entered to ruine the spirituall building vv ch he had framed In like maÌ„ner the ancient fathers haue euer noted heretikes their heresies of later standing and noueltie l. praesc c 2â— In all things sayeth Tertulian the veritie goeth before the image and last of all cometh the similitude Yea sayeth he it is a folly to thinke that heresie in doctrine is the first especially seing that the true religion fortelleth heresies And in another place ll 4. aduersus Marcionens thus hee concludeth Insumma si constatid verius quod prius id prius quod est ab initio ab initio quod ab Apostolis pariter vtique constabit idesse ab Apostolis traditum quod apud Ecclesias Apostolicas fuerit sacro-sanctum In breef if it be manifest that that is truest vvhich is first that first vvhich is from the begining that froÌ„ ye. begining vv ch is from the Apostles it shall likevvise be manifest that that is deliuered by the Apostles vv ch hath been inuiolably holdeÌ„ in the apostolicall Churches And in his booke against Praxeas he sayeth that it is adiudged against all heresies that that is true vv ch is first that is couÌ„terfet vv ch is later And this he shevveth by a similitude for sayeth he as the vvilde oliue springeth out often tymes out of the svveet oliue nutte l. praesc c 36. and the vvilde figtree out of the good figge so heresies haue grovvne out of our ground vvhich yet are not ours degenerating from the true graine of fayth Ireneus also subscribeth to Tertulians opinion in these vvords l 5. circa mâ—dium Omnes illi valde posteriores sunt quam Episcopi quibus Apostoli tradiderunt Ecclesias All they he meaneth heretikes are of much later standing then the Bishops to vvhome the Apostles deliuered and comitted the Churches And as heretikes are noted of later standing so is their doctrine counted to sauour of noueltie Vvherfore Zozomenus sayeth l. 1. c. 1â— that Arrius vvas not a frayed to affirme that vvhich neuer any durst auouch to vvit that God the sonne vvas created of nothing And Vincentius Lyrinensis vvriting a booke against heresies intitleth it against prophane nouelties and vvisely obserueth that the Catholike Churche Keepeth the olde and deuiseth noe nevv doctrine to vvhich sense he explicateth those vvordes of saint Paule O Timothee depositum custodi c. 2. ô Timothee keep that vvhich vvas deposed vvith thee and committed to thy custodie Depositum custodi sayeth he non quod à te inuentum sed quod tibi creditum est quod accepisti non quod excogitasti rem non ingenij sed doctrinae non vsurpationis priuatae sed piâ—blicae traditionis in qua non author esse debes sed custos non institutor sed sectator aurum accepisti aurum redde nolo mihi pro alijs alia subijcias Keep that vvhich is deposed not vvhich is inuented by thee but vvhich is committed to thee vvhich thou hast receiued not vvhich tho hast deuised a thing not of vvit but of doctrine not of priuate vsurpation but of publique tradition in vvhich thou oughtest not to bee an autour but a keeper not an institut our but a follovver thou receiuedst gould restore gould I will not haue thee put in one thiÌ„g for another Vvherin he putteth a playn difference bettvvixt Catholikes and heretikes that they sticke to the olde these are euer deuising nevve doctrine For although the Churche by nevv councells and definitions addeth greater explication of her religion and although by the labours and endeuours of the Doctours of the Church vvhich in no age are vvanting many points of our fayth are more illustrated and dilated yet in substaunce our fayth is still one and the same And therfore diuines saye that fayth neuer from the beginning hathe increased in substaunce but only in explication and that the Churche since the tyme of the Apostles neuer had nevv reuelations in the articles of beleef and that in general Councells she defineth noe nevv things but rather those things vvhich before vvere extaunte in scriptures fathers or tradition shee by her definition declareth more certainly and proposeth more plainly to the vevve of the vvorld So that as Vincentius Lyrinensis sayeth 〈◊〉 29.30 euen as mans body increaseth by nutrition and augmentation yet gayneth no nevv limmes and members but only getteth more quantitie and strength in the former so christian fayth by noe increase did euer yet gaine nevv articles but only hath gotten greater and clearer explication of the former Vvherfore the same doctour counsayleth euery preacher and teacher so to explicate thinges after a nevv manner that he preach not nevv doctrine Eadem quae accepisti say eth hee ita doce c. 〈◊〉 vt cùm dicas nouè noÌ„ dicas noua The same things vvhich thou hast receiued so doe thou teach that vvhen thou speakest after a nevv maÌ„ner thou speake noe nevv things And the reason vvhy faythe admitteth no noueltie is this bicause God speaketh once and neuer recalls or ameÌ„ds his vvorde Iob 33. Psal 6â— and in him that prouerb takes no place Secunda consilia meliora second counsayls are the best For God is as vvise and circumspect at the first as at the last therfore he hauing once reuealed and planted fayth that must stand for good and he that seeks to chaunge declares him selfe a corrupter not a correctour and in that he coÌ„meth after vvith his diuising vvit to adde ordetract froÌ„ the olde receiued faith he bevvrayes him selfe to be of later standing so an heretike and his doctrine to sauour of noueltie so an heresie Vvherfore to coÌ„clude sithe that it is certain that Catholikes vvhom they call papists are of noelate staÌ„ding nor noe vpstarts for I demaund vvhen they beganne and after vvhom they arose they caÌ„ be noe heretikes seing that it is noe lesse certain that the reformers of this
an heretike by Vvherfore Ireneus sayeth that by succession vve confound all heretikes Supra Sainct Austine sayeth that it is the thing Lib. cont ep fund c. 4 l. dâ— vtilit cred c. 17. vvhich holdeth him in the Catholike Church bicause sayeth he that Church in vvhich is this successioÌ„ is the rock against vvhich the gates of hell can not preuail If therfore our nevv Christianes vvill discharge them selues of this marke of an heretike vvhich is vvante of succession let them shevv vs as Tertulian demaunded of the heretikes of his tyme the catalogue of their Bishops and the origen of their Churche that if in the same vve finde them to be descended from the Apostles vve may acknovvledg them as true Christians if vve finde that they are not descended from so noble a race vve may hisse them out of the Church for heretikes But I ame sure they caÌ„ shevv noâ— succession bicause they are the first them selues and can as soone name their predecessours as they can finde out Lutheranes before Luther caluinistes before caluin I vvill not deny but that they can deriue some pointes of their doctrine froÌ„ Simon Magus and other ancient heretikes but this succession proueth them also to be heretikes as is before demonstrated but a succession from that Church vvhichvvas commonly counted Christian they can not shevv yea they can not shevv vs a succession of their doctrine from any ancient heretikes but are them selues the first of their familie succeeding to none but sent and ordayned by them selues See the first booke first chap. borne prodigiously of theÌ„ selues ChildreÌ„ vvith out fathers and schollers vvith out masters for although they borovv their heresies of other heretikes yet they iumpe vvith no heretikes in all points but ether adde or detracte so succeed in all poincts to none Vverfore though sometymes they vaunte that they succeed the Apostles and the primatiue Church yet some tymes the truthe breaketh from theÌ„ against their vvills as it doth from the deuil vvhen by coniuration he is compelled to tell the truth and then they confess them selues to be the first of their familie but this confession hangeth them Oecolampadius they call the first bishop of Basil and Caluin the first of Geneua Latimer the first Apostle of Ingland and knokes of Scotland And Martin Luther the most ancient of them all is not afrayed to saye that he vvas the first man that manifested the ghospell and the truthe vnto the vvorld In prafaâ— disp Lypsiâ— Audemus dicere sayeth hee à nobis primo diuulgatum esse Christum Vve dare saye that Christ vvas first by vs made knovvn vnto the vvorld He hathe piggs in his belly therfore he speakes in the plurall nuÌ„ber but he hath noe braynes in his head nor blood in his face to blush vvith all and therfore he dares be bold to say that he is the first man that promulgated the christian lavve Art thou the first thou vaunting compagnion modestie vvould yeeld at least to the Apostles So he vvill peraduenture but at least sayeth he I ame the first after them O monstrouse and Luciferian pride and novv not Luther but Lucifer Art thou the first after the Apostles Vvhere then vvas the Churche all this vvhile Vvhere vver ethe Pastours and Doctours of the same Vvhere vvere the Austines Ambroses Gregories Hieromes Vvas ther none all this vvhile to haue been imployed but God must needs expecte till an Apostata fryar leaped out of a Cloister and maryed vvith a Nonne notvvithstanding that bothe had promised chastitie before god and man by a solemne vovve But they haue a shifte or tvvoe by vvhich they thinke to auoyd this argument of succession The first is this our doctrine say they is Apostolicall and vve are the Apostles successours bicause vve preach conformable to that doctrine vvhich they haue left in the ghospells epistles by them vvritten But this shifte vvill not serue See the second chap. bicause this is to make bare scripture Iudge of their doctrine as all heretikes haue euer doon vv ch not notvvithstanding as is in the first booke demonstrated is noe certain rule to square fayth religion by Vvherfore they haue yet another ansvveare in store vv ch is this They graunte that the Apostles once plaÌ„ted a true church true religioÌ„ and established true pastours but soone after this Churche fayled degenerated froÌ„ that it vvas into the Synagogue of the deuil vv ch they call the Papisticall Churche and possessed the vvorld for many hundred yeares till at length Luther the man of god builded this Church agayne renevved the religion and appointed nevv pastours so say they vve succeed to that Church vvhich the Apostles founded not by a continuall succession but by an interruption of many hundred yeares But aske them vvhat yeare of our lord vnder vvhat Emperour or Pope vppon vvhat occasion this Church fayled then they can not giue you a resolute ansvver Luther in the Assembly at Wormatia publikely auouched that the Church fell in the tyme of the Councel of ConstaÌ„ce in vvhich Vvicleph vvas condeÌ„ned Tom. 9. l cont Papatum The same Martin not allvvayes myndfull of euery vvord vvhich he hath spoken in his book vvhich he vvrote against Papacie sayeth that this Church fayled a thousand yeares after Christe and his reason is biccause the Apocalips sayeth that Satan for a thousand yeares shal be tyed and so for six hundred years he hath been loose l. de Capt. Babyl In another place he sayeth that saint Gregorie vvas the last good pope and that since that tyme the Church and pastours are degenerated Yet the same man perceiuing hovv litle aggreemeÌ„t is betvvixte his religion and that vvhich vvas practised euen in the first age and tyme of the Apostles hovv vnlike his ministers are to those ancient preestes and fathers Act 15. he sayeth that the Apostles them selues erred in their Councel holdeÌ„ at Hierusalem or else sayeth he vve all sinne novv in eating blood-puddings vvhich they forbad not knovving absurde companion as he vvas or not acknovv-ledging that the precept vvas but for a tyme to coÌ„tent the Ievves As for the Councell of Nice vvhich vvas vvith in 300 yeares after Christe he auoucheth that the canons and articles of the same are but Stravv and Stubble â—â—prâ— vvhich epithetons he giues also vnto saint Iames his epistle Ep. â—d Sadol Caluin sayeth that Bonifacius the Pope vvas the first that vvas made suprem head of the Churche by Phocas the Emperour and so he thinketh that then the Churche first degenerated yet the same man in his preface to the king of Fraunce Prafat Inst. ad Regem Galliâ— in locis postreâ—â—â—â—ditu sayeth that the Church fell not till the tyme of the Councel of Basil Melancthon sayeth that Pope Zozimus vvas the first Anti-christ and that since ther vvas neuer any true Bishop of Rome But first this disagreement of the tyme
contempte of Saintes Images and Reliques though vve laye aside Scriptures fathers tradition historie and all monumentes is an argumente sufficient for the proofe of the vvorship and respecte vvhich is devv vnto them And to make it more manifest I vvill propose an example vvhich shall lay open vnto the vevv of any reasonable man the absurditie vvhich follovveth contempte of these thinges and the traiterouse meaning vnto Christe vvhich it implyeth Put the case that some one in Ingland of his Maiesties subiects should profess great loyaltie loue and honour vnto him yet could not abide to hear a good vvord of his gloriouse mother yea vvould reuile her and miscall her but vnder this pretence that his Maiestie is novv to haue all the honour and that noe honour can be giuen to the mother but so much is taken from the sonne Suppose he should passe by his lorde chauncelour and Treasurer vvithout mouinge capp and appear before his honourable counsaill vvithout bovving of body or bending of knee and being demaunded vvhether his capp vvet not nayled to his head or vvhether his knee vvanted not a iointe he should ansvver them that his cappe is nayled to all but his Maiestie his knee is stiffe to all but his ovvn good selfe Suppose also he should despise his fauourites and hate them as much as hee affecteth them protesting that he only loueth his Maiestie to vvhoÌ„ he giueth so much of his affection that he hath none lefte for his freinds or vvelvvillers Suppose that vvhen he enteteth into the chamber of presence he should make no more reuerence to his Chaire theÌ„ to an alehovvse benche Suppose that vvhensoeuer he meeteth vvith his Graces picture he should deface and defile it and should caste into the fier vvhat soeuer he findeth that hathe been vsed by him and all vnder this pretence that he giueth all respecte vnto his ovvn person and vvill not giue any at all to any thinge else bee it neuer so neare or so deare vnto him least he should seem to parte stakes and not to giue all honour and affection to his Highnes Suppose also that he should stopp all sutes vvhich are made vnto his Chauncelour Treasurer Counsailours and other offices avouching that such suters are traytours to his Maiestie vvho in that they goe not to him immediately doe seem not to put that confidence in him vvhich his goodness requireth but rather do imagine that ether he is not able of him selfe or else not so vvilling as able vvould you take this man to bee a loyall subiect or vvold you not not vvith standing all these his goodly pretences and solemne protestatious suspecte his sinceritie and might you not iustly feare least after contempte of all that are beloÌ„ging vnto his Maiestie he vvould laye violent hands vppon his ovvn person Truly I doubt not but that such a one vvould quickly be arested and apprehended for a traytour The like case is betvvixte Christe Iesus and these nevv reformers and zelatours They professe all honour dutie and affection to Christe but they reuile his mother and vvill haue no honour giuen vnto her least that in honouring the mother they should dishonour the sonne They beare noe respect vnto Christes cheefest officers the Apostles to vvhom he committed his Church at his departure They fauour not at all the freinds and fauorits of Christe the saincts and angells and this they saye they doe for feare least they should incurre Christs disfauour in fauouring them vvhom he him selfe did fauoure Vvhen they meete vvith the image of Christe or of his mother or frendes they deface and defile it Vvhen they see the crosse of Christe they svvell at the very sight of it as if they vvere possessed and can noe more abide it then can the deuill vvho bicause he hateth Christe can not brooke his crosse If they should hit vppon any bone of Christes frendes they vvould spurne at it and if any relique of Christe or his mother or his Apostles and other saints should be in their vvaye if a dunghil vver not nere hand they vvould caste it into the fier All sutes and requestes vvhich are made to the Mother of God or any sainte officer or freind of Christe they forbid and condemne as iniuriouse to Christe as though say they Christ vvere not able or vvilling enough of him selfe but that the vvay must be made by mediatours and intercessours These are their goodly pretences but vvhat litle signe of true meaning tovvards Christe therby is shevved the lavv of frendship shall determine vvhich telleth vs that it vve loue our freinde vve must loue his alliaunce frends and all appertaining vnto him euen vnto his dogge And if in the other case of that bragging subiecte vvho preteÌ„ds great honour to his Maiestie sentence vvould be pronounced against him as against a traytour bicause although he professe great loue and honour tovvards him yet he declares the contrarie in the contempte of his mother frends and officers I see not bovv any indifferent Iudge can condemne him for a traytour to his Maiestie vnless he pronounce these men also traytours vnto Christe his person bicause vvhere the case is like and the cause the same and only the persons different if the sentence be not the same the iudge is partiall and an accepter of persons THE FOVRTH BOOKE CONTEINETH A GENErall suruey of their Religion and vvorship of God in vvhich it is proued that they haue ether noe Religion at all or a graceless religion The first Capter shevveth hovv Preestes and religion euer vvent together and that the reformers haue noe Preestes and consequently no religion THE olde lavv being abrogated as able only to shevv the vvay but not to giue force to vvalke in the same to coÌ„maunde but not to giue grace to obeye the olde Sacraments being antiquated and abolishep as signes only vvhich represented grace but could not effectuate it the old Preestes also by good consequence vvere turned out of office as able only to iudge betvvixte corporall lepresies and to absolue from legall irregularities bicause the lavve sacraments and sacrifices being abolished ther vvas noe vse of the Preests vvho vvere ordayned only for one of these three offices that is to preach and interprete the lavv to minister sacrameÌ„ts or to offer sacrifice And in lieu of the old lavv a nevv lavv by Christe being established vvhich vvas vvritten not vvith the fingers of an Angell as the old vvas Exod. â—â— but of the holy ghoste not in stones as that vvas but in the hartes of men nevv sacraments also being instituted not only to signifie grace but also to sanctifie nevve Preests of necessitie vvere to bee appointed to interprete this lavve and to minister these sacraments bicause lavv religion and Preestes euer vvent together Heb. 9. and therfore as sainct Paule sayeth the one beeing altered the other vvas to be chaunged Three lavves there are by vvhich God hathe ruled his people to vvit the lavve of nature the lavv vvritten