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A18981 The true ancient Roman Catholike Being an apology or counterproofe against Doctor Bishops Reproofe of the defence of the Reformed Catholike. The first part. Wherein the name of Catholikes is vindicated from popish abuse, and thence is shewed that the faith of the Church of Rome as now it is, is not the Catholike faith ... By Robert Abbot ... Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1611 (1611) STC 54; ESTC S100548 363,303 424

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constant_o do_v he_o understand_v the_o fire_n speak_v of_o by_o the_o apostle_n of_o the_o grief_n and_o tribulation_n that_o god_n lay_v upon_o the_o faithful_a in_o bereave_v they_o of_o those_o earthly_a good_n which_o they_o have_v over-carnal_o affect_v and_o desire_v now_o in_o all_o these_o place_n it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o saint_n austin_n be_v so_o far_o from_o expound_v that_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n concern_v purgatory_n as_o that_o in_o every_o of_o the_o former_a he_o have_v signify_v express_o that_o he_o doubt_v thereof_o and_o in_o the_o last_o of_o all_o deny_v it_o express_o in_o the_o first_o place_n he_o say_v ●●ntentiae_fw-la say_v de_fw-fr ●ide_v &_o oper._n c._n 16._o si●●_n in_o ha●_n u●●a_fw-la tantum_fw-la homines_fw-la ista_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la sive_fw-la etiam_fw-la post_fw-la hac_fw-la vitam_fw-la ●alia_fw-la quae_fw-la d●_n iudicia_fw-la subsequn●●r_fw-la non_fw-la abhorret_fw-la quantum_fw-la arb●●ror_fw-la à_fw-la ratione_fw-la veritatis_fw-la iste_fw-la intell●ctus_fw-la b●●us_fw-la ●●ntentiae_fw-la whether_o in_o this_o life_n only_a man_n suffer_v such_o thing_n or_o whether_o after_o this_o life_n also_o some_o such_o judgement_n f●llow_n the_o meaning_n which_o i_o have_v give_v of_o this_o sentence_n as_o i_o suppose_v abhor_v not_o from_o the_o truth_n in_o the_o second_o place_n he_o say_v saluari_fw-la say_v enchirid._n ad_fw-la laurent_n c._n 69._o tale_n aliquid_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pest_n hanc_fw-la vitam_fw-la ●eri_fw-la incredibile_fw-la n●a_fw-la est_fw-la &_o utrum_fw-la ita_fw-la sit_fw-la quaeri_fw-la potest_fw-la &_o aut_fw-la inveniri_fw-la ●ut_fw-la latere_fw-la n●nnullos_fw-la fidel●s_n per_fw-la ignem_fw-la quendam_fw-la p●rgatoriii_fw-la quatò_fw-la magis_fw-la un●usue_v b●na_fw-la pereuntia_fw-la d●lexerunt_fw-la tanto_fw-la tard●●s_fw-la citizen_n saluari_fw-la that_o s●me_v such_o thing_n there_o be_v also_o after_o this_o life_n it_o be_v not_o incredible_a and_o may_v be_v inquire_v of_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o and_o either_o be_v sound_a or_o remain_v hide_v that_o some_o faithful_a by_o a_o kind_n of_o purgatory_n fire_n by_o how_o much_o they_o have_v either_o the_o more_o or_o the_o l●sse_n love_v transitory_a good_n be_v either_o the_o soon_o or_o the_o more_o slow_o save_v the_o repeat_n of_o both_o these_o place_n to_o dulcitius_n without_o any_o revocation_n or_o alteration_n may_v serve_v in_o steed_n of_o a_o three_o testimony_n of_o his_o doubt_v of_o it_o and_o in_o the_o last_o place_n he_o say_v again_o est_fw-la again_o de_fw-fr ci●_n d●●_n lib._n 21._o cap._n 26._o post_fw-la istius_fw-la cor●oris_fw-la mortem_fw-la etc._n etc._n si_fw-la hoc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ●t●ruall●_n 〈◊〉_d tus_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la eiusmodi_fw-la ignem_fw-la dicunt●r_fw-la perpeti_fw-la etc._n etc._n s●●●_n ibi_fw-la tantum_fw-la s●u●_n &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la noa_o ibi_fw-la sec●laria_fw-la quam●●s_fw-la à_fw-la damnatione_fw-la vemalia_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d inveniant_fw-la non_fw-la redarguo_fw-la qui●_n forsi●an_v ver●m_v est_fw-la after_o the_o death_n of_o this_o body_n if_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o this_o mean_a time_n till_o the_o resurrection_n be_v s●id_v to_o suffer_v some_o such_o kind_n of_o fire_n and_o whether_o there_o only_o or_o both_o here_o and_o there_o or_o whether_o here_o they_o find_v a_o fire_n of_o transitory_a tribulation_n burn_v their_o secular_a desire_n that_o they_o may_v not_o find_v it_o there_o i_o reprove_v it_o not_o i_o say_v not_o against_o it_o because_o perhaps_o it_o be_v true_a here_o we_o find_v it_o be_v not_o incredible_a and_o it_o may_v be_v dispute_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o and_o perhaps_o it_o be_v so_o but_o upon_o his_o best_a advice_n he_o can_v not_o find_v in_o the_o apostle_n word_n or_o in_o any_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n that_o certain_o it_o be_v so_o yea_o in_o the_o last_o place_n which_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v note_v propound_v to_o answer_v some_o who_o by_o pretence_n of_o the_o apostle_n word_n here_o in_o question_n hope_v to_o be_v save_v by_o a_o purgatory_n fire_n he_o use_v these_o word_n etc._n word_n in_o psal_n 80._o 〈◊〉_d per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d salau_n e●o_o nam_fw-la quid_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la art_n apostolus_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la aliud_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d das_fw-la esse_fw-la volo_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la vobis_fw-la dare_v securitatem_fw-la malam_fw-la non_fw-la dabo_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d t●meus_a terreo_fw-la securos_fw-la vos_fw-la saccrem_fw-la si_fw-la securus_fw-la ●i●rem_fw-la ego_fw-la ignem_fw-la aeternum_fw-la tin_n ●●_o non_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d nisi_fw-la ignem_fw-la aeternum_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la ●lio_fw-la loco_fw-la scriptura_fw-la dicit_fw-la etc._n etc._n brethren_n i_o be_o very_o fearful_a it_o be_v not_o good_a to_o give_v you_o any_o evil_a security_n i_o will_v deliver_v nothing_o but_o what_o i_o receive_v in_o fear_n i_o terrify_v you_o i_o will_v secure_v you_o if_o i_o can_v secure_v myself_o i_o fear_v eternal_a fire_n i_o receive_v or_o learn_v no_o fire_n but_o that_o that_o be_v eternal_a of_o which_o the_o scripture_n say_v in_o another_o place_n their_o fire_n shall_v never_o go_v out_o and_o so_o he_o go_v on_o to_o expound_v the_o place_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o i_o have_v say_v mark_v this_o well_o st._n austin_n will_v deliver_v nothing_o but_o what_o he_o have_v receive_v and_o he_o profess_v to_o have_v receive_v no_o other_o fire_n but_o only_o eternal_a fire_n therefore_o very_o definite_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o invenimus_fw-la elsewhere_o hypognost_n l._n 5._o tertum_fw-la lo●um_fw-la penitus_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la un_fw-fr mò_fw-la nec_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o scripture_n invenimus_fw-la we_o be_v utter_o ignorant_a of_o any_o three_o place_n yea_o and_o we_o find_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o there_o be_v none_o and_o therefore_o he_o divide_v all_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a either_o to_o perpetual_a joy_n or_o perpetual_a torment_n as_o i_o have_v show_v 10._o show_v answer_v to_o doctor_n bishop_n epistle_n sect_n 10._o otherwhere_o as_o austin_n so_o gregory_n also_o though_o he_o expound_v the_o place_n concern_v purgatory_n as_o m._n bishop_n cit_v yet_o say_v elsewhere_o that_o intelligi_fw-la that_o greg._n dial._n 〈…〉_o c._n 39_o hoc_fw-la de_fw-fr ●●●e_z tribulationis_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la nobis_fw-la vita_fw-la ad●nbito_fw-la potest_fw-la intelligi_fw-la the_o same_o may_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o fire_n of_o tribulation_n apply_v unto_o we_o in_o this_o life_n and_o if_o it_o may_v be_v understand_v of_o tribulation_n in_o this_o life_n then_o can_v it_o be_v no_o proof_n for_o warrant_n of_o a_o purgatory_n in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v now_o it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o gregory_n be_v superstitious_o conceit_v concern_v purgatory_n although_o allow_v of_o it_o only_o peceatis_fw-la only_o ibid_fw-la de_n quibusdam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d culpis_fw-la the_o parut_v minim●●que_fw-la peceatis_fw-la for_o very_o small_a and_o light_a offence_n but_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o while_n to_o note_v how_o sometime_o the_o truth_n force_v itself_o upon_o he_o he_o cross_v himself_o in_o this_o behalf_n and_o put_v that_o down_o in_o one_o place_n which_o he_o build_v in_o another_o for_o he_o write_v upon_o job_n he_o say_v ascendat_fw-la say_v greg._n mor._n l._n 8._o c._n 8._o quem_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la modo_fw-la miserecordia_fw-la eripit_fw-la sola_fw-la post_fw-la praeson_n seculum_fw-la iustitia_fw-la 〈◊〉_d hinc_fw-la salomo_n ait_fw-la quia_fw-la lignum_fw-la ta_fw-la quocunque_fw-la loco_fw-la ce●●derit_fw-la etc._n etc._n qua_fw-la ●um_fw-la humani_fw-la casus_fw-la tempore_fw-la five_o sanctus_fw-la fi●e_fw-la malignus_fw-la spiritus_fw-la egredientem_fw-la amn●a_fw-la claustra_fw-la carnis_fw-la acceperit_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d secum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pern●●tat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ater●is_fw-la suppli●iis_fw-la ultra_fw-la ad_fw-la remedium_fw-la creptionis_fw-la ascendat_fw-la who_o mercy_n now_o deliver_v not_o he_o justice_n only_o after_o this_o world_n imprison_v hereof_o solomon_n say_v that_o in_o whatsoever_o place_n the_o tree_n fall_v whether_o towards_o the_o south_n or_o towards_o the_o north_n there_o it_o shall_v be_v because_o when_o at_o the_o time_n of_o a_o man_n death_n either_o the_o good_a spirit_n or_o the_o evil_a spirit_n shall_v receive_v
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