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book_n baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v a_o new_a invention_n find_v out_o by_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o devil_n it_o be_v the_o mark_n of_o the_o beast_n invent_v by_o antichrist_n either_o by_o pope_n higinus_n who_o live_v in_o the_o second_o century_n about_o 150_o year_n after_o christ_n or_o else_o by_o pope_n innocent_a the_o three_o who_o live_v at_o least_o 1000_o year_n after_o christ_n 1215._o you_o answer_v 1._o if_o higinus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o first_o inventor_n of_o it_o than_o it_o be_v more_o ancient_a than_o many_o will_v grant_v 2._o you_o say_v that_o he_o be_v not_o the_o inventor_n of_o it_o but_o you_o find_v by_o platina_n that_o he_o be_v the_o first_o that_o enjoin_v surety_n and_o why_o not_o the_o first_o that_o enjoin_v infant_n baptism_n you_o produce_v nothing_o to_o the_o contrary_a but_o your_o word_n and_o that_o the_o same_o authority_n that_o ordain_v the_o one_o ordain_v the_o other_o be_v very_o apparent_a 1._o because_o neither_o of_o 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the_o benefit_n thereof_o it_o be_v ordain_v that_o assoon_o as_o a_o infant_n be_v bear_v he_o shall_v have_v godfather_n procure_v for_o he_o to_o be_v his_o witness_n or_o surety_n and_o that_o then_o the_o child_n be_v bring_v by_o his_o godfather_n before_o the_o church-door_n the_o priest_n stand_v there_o for_o the_o purpose_n shall_v demand_v of_o the_o child_n before_o he_o dip_v he_o in_o the_o holy_a font._n whether_o he_o will_v forsake_v the_o devil_n and_o all_o his_o pomp_n and_o whether_o he_o believe_v all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o the_o godfather_n affirm_v on_o his_o behalf_n etc._n etc._n the_o reason_n why_o i_o record_v this_o in_o this_o place_n be_v first_o to_o present_a to_o view_v the_o probability_n of_o higinus_n bring_v in_o of_o infant_n baptism_n for_o you_o say_v that_o you_o find_v by_o platina_n that_o he_o bring_v in_o godfather_n first_o and_o i_o find_v by_o joannes_n boemus_n that_o he_o that_o bring_v godfather_n first_o bring_v in_o infants-baptism_n with_o it_o 2._o i_o find_v that_o there_o be_v a_o time_n when_o there_o be_v a_o canonical_a sanction_n or_o statute_n against_o it_o 3._o the_o come_n in_o of_o infant-baptism_n with_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o viz._n lest_o any_o shall_v die_v without_o it_o and_o the_o manner_n of_o it_o with_o godfather_n and_o dip_v not_o sprinkle_v in_o the_o holy_a font._n and_o this_o mr._n baxter_n confess_v himself_o in_o his_o three_o edition_n of_o the_o saint_n everlasting_a rest_n part_n 1._o ch_n 8._o sect_n 5_o p_o 179._o in_o the_o margin_n he_o say_v and_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n none_o be_v baptise_a without_o a_o express_a covenant_v wherein_o they_o renounce_v the_o world_n flesh_n and_o devil_n and_o engage_v themselves_o to_o christ_n and_o promise_v to_o obey_v he_o as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o tertul._n origen_n cyprian_n and_o other_o at_o large_a etc._n etc._n this_o be_v a_o truth_n where_o be_v ground_n for_o infant-baptism_n upon_o mr._n baxter_n own_o confession_n so_o that_o these_o thing_n thus_o consider_v take_v off_o all_o your_o probability_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptize_v infant_n and_o that_o it_o have_v be_v a_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n ever_o since_o yet_o you_o confess_v immediate_o that_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n pag._n 89._o do_v persuade_v man_n from_o baptise_v infant_n yet_o say_v you_o their_o dissuasion_n show_v that_o their_o usual_a practice_n be_v to_o baptize_v they_o i_o say_v that_o it_o rather_o do_v show_v that_o those_o ancient_n know_v that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o invention_n of_o man_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o it_o in_o scripture_n else_o what_o need_v they_o to_o dissuade_v they_o from_o it_o 1._o you_o say_v s._n john_n die_v 104._o say_v alsteed_n a_o likely_a or_o unlikely_a matter_n the_o psalmist_n say_v long_o before_o a_o man_n day_n be_v threescore_o and_o ten_o etc._n etc._n john_n die_v a_o 104_o year_n after_o christ_n if_o this_o be_v likely_a i_o leave_v all_o to_o judge_v justin_n martyr_n you_o say_v who_o live_v in_o all_o probability_n it_o be_v but_o probability_n then_o and_o very_o unlikely_a for_o you_o say_v he_o flourish_v about_o 130._o be_v this_o like_a to_o be_v in_o john_n day_n all_o john_n day_n may_v be_v nay_o must_v be_v well_o near_o 200_o year_n then_o and_o all_o this_o you_o strain_v to_o draw_v down_o if_o you_o can_v baptism_n of_o infant_n from_o the_o apostle_n the_o sum_n of_o all_o be_v this_o justin_n martyr_n dispute_v the_o difference_n between_o infant_n who_o die_v baptize_v and_o those_o who_o die_v unbaptise_v he_o live_v probable_o in_o s._n john_n day_n and_o know_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o he_o live_v 130_o year_n after_o christ_n john_n must_v live_v so_o long_o too_o or_o 104_o at_o least_o that_o so_o justin_n martyr_n may_v know_v apostolic_a practice_n from_o john_n you_o mention_v other_o as_o tertullian_n origen_n cyprian_n etc._n etc._n who_o mention_n baptise_v of_o infant_n it_o may_v be_v they_o mention_v it_o as_o a_o innovation_n for_o mr._n baxter_n say_v express_o as_o before_o that_o they_o say_v there_o be_v none_o baptize_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n without_o a_o express_a covenant_v etc._n etc._n so_o you_o conclude_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v no_o new_a invention_n either_o of_o pope_n or_o devil_n no_o man_n can_v show_v what_o pope_n or_o man_n invent_v it_o answ_n 1._o christ_n never_o command_v it_o the_o apostle_n never_o practise_v it_o that_o be_v evident_a not_o only_o from_o the_o scripture_n silence_n but_o master_n baxter_n confession_n and_o then_o some_o pope_n man_n or_o devil_n must_v invent_v it_o and_o we_o be_v come_v very_o near_o the_o mark_n you_o produce_v a_o history_n that_o say_v pope_n higinus_n bring_v in_o godfather_n i_o have_v mention_v another_o that_o say_v godfather_n and_o infant-baptism_n come_v in_o together_o and_o why_o not_o by_o the_o same_o pope_n you_o conclude_v that_o you_o will_v retort_v this_o upon_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o their_o practice_n be_v but_o a_o new_a invention_n not_o above_o a_o hundred_o year_n old_a etc._n etc._n answ_n there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o that_o baptise_v of_o believer_n be_v 1652_o year_n old_a and_o that_o be_v many_o score_n of_o year_n before_o your_o infant-baptism_n be_v invent_v and_o this_o practice_n of_o the_o baptise_v and_o non_fw-la baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v that_o which_o have_v be_v mention_v with_o much_o envy_n almost_o in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o primitive_a time_n which_o note_n that_o there_o have_v be_v some_o witness_n to_o the_o truth_n in_o all_o age_n about_o the_o year_n 1525._o zuinglius_fw-la be_v busy_v about_o reformation_n there_o creep_v in_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o catabaptist_n who_o forbid_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o do_v rebaptize_v themselves_o with_o these_o zuinglius_fw-la deal_v friendly_a at_o first_o dispute_v with_o they_o and_o convince_a they_o of_o their_o error_n but_o they_o be_v obstinate_a in_o their_o opinion_n he_o cause_v the_o senate_n severe_o to_o punish_v they_o some_o with_o imprisonment_n some_o with_o death_n this_o be_v record_v in_o a_o book_n entitle_v abel_n redivivus_fw-la or_o the_o dead_a yet_o speak_v pag._n 92._o and_o your_o own_o confession_n that_o some_o ancient_n dissuade_v from_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n etc._n etc._n the_o 20._o objection_n you_o mention_v be_v that_o baptise_v be_v dip_v but_o your_o infant_n be_v not_o dip_v ergo_fw-la they_o be_v not_o baptise_a you_o answer_v 1._o that_o dip_v be_v a_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o not_o absolute_o necessary_a or_o essential_a to_o baptism_n there_o may_v be_v true_a baptism_n where_o there_o be_v no_o dip_v etc._n etc._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o baptise_v be_v one_o thing_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d to_o plunge_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n be_v another_o etc._n etc._n answ_n it_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o dip_v as_o yourself_o confess_v pag._n 113._o though_o not_o only_o to_o dip_v you_o say_v the_o primitive_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v four_o several_a signification_n 1._o to_o drown_v plunge_v or_o overwhelm_v 2._o to_o die_v or_o dip_v 3._o to_o moisten_v or_o make_v wet_a 4._o to_o wash_v or_o cleanse_v note_v 1_o it_o do_v not_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n signify_v to_o sprinkle_v you_o have_v say_v enough_o to_o satisfy_v any_o that_o desire_v satisfaction_n in_o this_o particular_a that_o your_o practice_n of_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o truth_n sprinkle_v be_v another_o word_n and_o another_o thing_n then_o baptise_v rantizo_n be_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o sprinkle_v and_o baptizo_fw-la from_o bapto_n be_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o 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give_v these_o four_o ground_n to_o confirm_v dip_v to_o be_v the_o true_a baptise_v and_o not_o sprinkle_v 1._o from_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n as_o have_v be_v already_o mind_v it_o be_v the_o conclusion_n of_o all_o the_o master_n of_o the_o greek_a tongue_n in_o the_o greek_a lexicon_n that_o the_o first_o and_o most_o native_a and_o proper_a signification_n of_o baptizo_fw-la be_v to_o dip_v or_o plunge_v into_o or_o under_o water_n and_o this_o yourself_o confess_v that_o 1._o it_o signify_v to_o drown_v plunge_n overwhelm_v die_v or_o dip_v this_o mr._n lee_n in_o his_o critica_fw-la sacra_fw-la on_o the_o word_n and_o passor_n with_o divers_a other_o affirm_v who_o i_o suppose_v you_o conclude_v be_v master_n of_o the_o greek_a tongue_n and_o this_o likewise_o doctor_n feat_o in_o his_o dipper_n dip_v confess_v and_o this_o i_o find_v that_o the_o word_n baptizo_fw-la be_v never_o render_v in_o the_o new-testament_n to_o sprinkle_v nor_o rantizo_n to_o baptise_v therefore_o do_v no_o long_o wrest_v the_o truth_n contrary_a to_o your_o own_o knowledge_n but_o be_v still_o and_o know_v that_o god_n be_v god_n 2._o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n who_o best_o know_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n 1._o john_n who_o be_v the_o messenger_n of_o christ_n mal._n 3._o 1._o baptise_a and_o he_o baptize_v in_o jordan_n mat._n 3_o 6._o and_o he_o baptize_v christ_n himself_o in_o jordan_n ver_fw-la 16._o with_o mark_n 1._o 9_o and_o he_o come_v up_o out_o of_o the_o water_n what_o need_n christ_n and_o john_n go_v down_o into_o the_o water_n if_o sprinkle_v will_v do_v the_o deed_n and_o the_o text_n say_v mat._n 3._o 13._o that_o jesus_n come_v to_o john_n to_o be_v baptize_v that_o be_v upon_o mr._n hales_n one_o account_n to_o be_v plunge_v dip_v wet_a or_o wash_v not_o sprinkle_v and_o be_v dip_v he_o be_v both_o wet_a and_o wash_v and_o joh._n 3._o 23._o be_v say_v that_o john_n be_v baptise_v not_o sprinkle_v in_o enon_n near_o salim_n because_o there_o be_v much_o water_n there_o if_o sprinkle_v have_v be_v the_o thing_n require_v no_o need_n of_o much_o water_n to_o this_o you_o say_v 1._o water_n be_v scarce_o in_o those_o hot_a country_n that_o infer_v not_o a_o strip_v naked_a and_o plunge_v of_o all_o that_o be_v baptise_a but_o only_o the_o conveniency_n of_o baptise_v a_o multitude_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o do_v you_o know_v or_o have_v you_o hear_v of_o any_o such_o hot_a country_n where_o there_o can_v not_o be_v water_n have_v enough_o to_o sprinkle_v many_o thousand_o if_o need_v require_v 2._o be_v canaan_n such_o a_o country_n as_o that_o water_n be_v scarce_o in_o it_o be_v the_o promise_v fruitful_a land_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n a_o type_n of_o the_o heavenly_a canaan_n where_o be_v wells_n dig_v deut._n 6._o 11._o neh._n 9_o 25._o and_o river_n in_o abundance_n or_o else_o the_o type_n hold_v not_o correspondence_n to_o the_o antitype_n ezek._n 34._o 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