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A93645 Christs innocency pleaded: against the cry of the chief priests. Or, a brief and plain reply unto certain papers received from William Thomas (called) Minister of the Gospel at Ubley. By Thomas Speed, a servant of the Jesus Christ, who was at the request of the bloody crew of chief priests, and teachers, crucified at Jerusalem. Speed, Thomas, b. 1622 or 3. 1656 (1656) Wing S4904; Thomason E865_1; ESTC R207594 52,531 75

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