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pro._n she_o do_v pa._n if_o she_o do_v who_o company_n do_v she_o leave_v from_o what_o body_n do_v she_o go_v forth_o where_o be_v the_o true_a church_n she_o forsake_v pro._n she_o forsake_v the_o primitive_a church_n the_o eastern_a church_n and_o all_o those_o christian_n who_o always_o maintain_v their_o freedom_n from_o the_o roman_a yoke_n pa._n 40._o the_o true_a holy_a apostolic_a catholic_n church_n be_v fallible_a and_o can_v err_v or_o it_o can_v pro._n remember_v by_o the_o church_n i_o mean_v the_o faithful_a throughout_o the_o world_n and_o of_o these_o i_o say_v they_o all_o can_v err_v in_o any_o point_n of_o faith._n pa._n why_o do_v you_o then_o false_o condemn_v she_o pro._n we_o do_v not_o condemn_v she_o we_o be_v part_n of_o she_o but_o for_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o condemn_v she_o pa._n 41._o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o all_o her_o proposal_n and_o definition_n of_o faith_n or_o she_o be_v not_o pro._n all_o definition_n make_v by_o 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true_a prophet_n or_o he_o be_v not_o pro._n he_o be_v pa._n if_o he_o be_v how_o then_o can_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n prevail_v against_o the_o church_n see_v he_o prophesy_v in_o st._n matt._n 16._o 18._o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o pro._n the_o gate_n of_o hell_n can_v prevail_v against_o the_o church_n nor_o never_o shall_v that_o be_v they_o shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o against_o any_o particular_a church_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n they_o may_v and_o have_v prevail_v but_o here_o as_o in_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o query_n you_o beg_v the_o question_n suppose_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ._n pa._n 44._o the_o holy_a ghost_n suggest_v all_o truth_n to_o the_o church_n or_o it_o do_v not_o pro._n it_o do_v pa._n if_o it_o do_v than_o it_o will_v suggest_v no_o error_n pro._n it_o will_v not_o but_o that_o do_v not_o hinder_v but_o it_o may_v permit_v satan_n to_o 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30._o when_o it_o be_v say_v unto_o peter_n feed_v my_o sheep_n it_o be_v say_v unto_o all_o and_o st._n amb._n lib._n de_fw-la sacerd._n which_o sheep_n and_o flock_v st._n peter_n do_v not_o receive_v alone_o but_o we_o all_o receive_v they_o with_o he_o see_v then_o here_o be_v no_o prerogative_n give_v to_o peter_n but_o what_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o all_o pastor_n receive_v we_o have_v good_a reason_n to_o deny_v his_o supremacy_n pa._n 53._o the_o apostle_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n or_o they_o be_v not_o pro._n they_o be_v pa._n if_o they_o be_v why_o have_v you_o primate_fw-la archbishop_n bishop_n and_o no_o equal_a authority_n as_o they_o have_v pro._n the_o question_n be_v impertinent_a all_o archbishop_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n in_o their_o own_o province_n all_o bishop_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n in_o their_o respective_a diocese_n so_o that_o we_o have_v a_o equal_a authority_n but_o as_o bishop_n be_v under_o the_o apostle_n and_o presbyter_n under_o they_o so_o we_o have_v the_o same_o degree_n but_o for_o the_o office_n of_o a_o apostle_n that_o be_v no_o long_o in_o the_o church_n pa._n 54._o to_o who_o the_o chief_a charge_n of_o feed_v christ_n sheep_n be_v give_v he_o be_v chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n or_o he_o be_v not_o pro._n he_o be_v pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o deny_v peter_n supremacy_n to_o who_o the_o chief_a charge_n be_v commit_v pro._n the_o chief_a charge_n be_v not_o commit_v to_o he_o therefore_o we_o deny_v his_o supremacy_n and_o although_o i_o acknowledge_v that_o if_o the_o chief_a charge_n have_v be_v give_v to_o any_o he_o have_v be_v chief_a yet_o see_v it_o be_v give_v to_o none_o as_o i_o prove_v
yet_o if_o they_o be_v they_o never_o use_v a_o greek_a liturcy_n among_o the_o latin_n but_o among_o the_o greek_n these_o several_a liturgy_n be_v for_o the_o several_a nation_n who_o language_n they_o be_v pen_v in_o pa._n 64._o see_v god_n have_v command_v nothing_o concern_v the_o language_n of_o the_o public_a liturgy_n we_o ought_v either_o to_o follow_v the_o command_v of_o the_o church_n or_o we_o ought_v not_o pro._n god_n have_v command_v already_o that_o the_o public_a service_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o know_a tongue_n and_o not_o in_o a_o unknown_a so_o that_o you_o suppose_v what_o be_v not_o true_a the_o whole_a fourteen_o chapter_n of_o 1_o cor._n forbid_v prayer_n or_o preach_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n pa._n why_o do_v you_o deny_v the_o liturgy_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n see_v the_o church_n command_v it_o pro._n the_o church_n do_v not_o command_v it_o the_o roman_a church_n indeed_o do_v but_o that_o be_v not_o the_o church_n we_o deny_v it_o therefore_o because_o it_o cross_v the_o end_n of_o prayer_n which_o be_v edification_n and_o because_o god_n have_v forbid_v it_o in_o the_o forecited_a place_n pa._n 65._o the_o man_n that_o pray_v and_o give_v thanks_o in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n either_o do_v well_o or_o he_o do_v not_o pro._n he_o that_o give_v thanks_o or_o pray_v in_o a_o tongue_n unknown_a to_o himself_o do_v not_o well_o and_o he_o that_o public_o pray_v and_o give_v thanks_o in_o a_o tongue_n unknown_a to_o his_o auditor_n do_v not_o well_o pa._n why_o do_v you_o condemn_v that_o place_n of_o scripture_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 17._o thou_o indeed_o give_v thanks_o well_o but_o the_o other_o be_v not_o edify_v pro._n we_o do_v not_o condemn_v that_o place_n the_o apostle_n there_o speak_v of_o the_o matter_n of_o such_o a_o person_n thanksgiving_n which_o he_o say_v may_v be_v good_a but_o at_o the_o same_o time_n he_o condemn_v the_o manner_n the_o do_v it_o in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n because_o other_o be_v not_o edify_v and_o he_o command_v vers_fw-la 26._o that_o all_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o edify_v this_o then_o be_v a_o breach_n of_o that_o command_n be_v not_o lawful_a the_o apostle_n say_v he_o may_v give_v thanks_o well_o for_o the_o matter_n but_o not_o in_o a_o right_a manner_n see_v the_o other_o be_v not_o edify_v for_o which_o reason_n we_o condemn_v the_o use_n of_o a_o liturgy_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n pa._n 66._o that_o which_o be_v praise_v in_o scripture_n and_o prove_v to_o be_v please_v unto_o god_n be_v either_o lawful_a and_o expedient_a for_o we_o to_o practice_n or_o it_o be_v not_o pro._n that_o which_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v please_v to_o god_n for_o we_o to_o do_v be_v lawful_a pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o deny_v the_o liturgy_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n see_v the_o apostle_n say_v 1_o cor._n 14._o 2._o he_o that_o speak_v with_o tongue_n speak_v not_o to_o man_n but_o god_n and_o vers_fw-la 14._o if_o i_o pray_v with_o tongue_n my_o spirit_n pray_v but_o my_o understanding_n be_v unfruitful_a and_o vers_fw-la 30._o to_o speak_v with_o tongue_n forbid_v not_o pro._n for_o god_n sake_n sir_n consider_v how_o strange_o you_o argue_v this_o be_v the_o very_a reason_n why_o we_o condemn_v public_a prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n because_o it_o be_v not_o to_o edification_n and_o because_o the_o understanding_n be_v unfruitful_a and_o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v with_o understanding_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 15._o the_o apostle_n here_o in_o vers_n 30._o commend_n speak_v with_o tongue_n and_o so_o do_v we_o but_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o speak_v with_o tongue_n and_o another_o to_o speak_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n it_o be_v not_o unlawful_a to_o speak_v to_o or_o pray_v with_o the_o people_n in_o greek_a and_o hebrew_n if_o they_o understand_v it_o or_o i_o or_o any_o other_o interpret_v it_o to_o they_o but_o to_o speak_v or_o pray_v in_o a_o tongue_n they_o do_v not_o understand_v without_o interpret_n what_o i_o say_v be_v express_o forbid_v by_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 27_o 28._o if_o any_o man_n speak_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n let_v one_o interpret_v but_o if_o there_o be_v no_o interpreter_n let_v he_o keep_v silence_n in_o the_o church_n thus_o prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v recommend_v that_o they_o be_v express_o forbid_v therefore_o we_o reject_v they_o of_o confession_n and_o absolution_n pa._n 67._o the_o apostle_n be_v make_v spiritual_a judge_n by_o our_o lord_n have_v power_n from_o he_o to_o bind_v and_o loose_v from_o sin_n or_o they_o have_v not_o pro._n they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v from_o the_o gild_n of_o sin_n but_o a_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v they_o have_v pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o reject_v absolution_n pro._n we_o do_v not_o reject_v it_o but_o the_o absolution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o do_v which_o pretend_v to_o more_o than_o christ_n ever_o give_v and_o we_o also_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n as_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v pa._n 68_o the_o laity_n be_v oblige_v to_o disclose_v their_o fault_n to_o their_o judge_n or_o they_o be_v not_o pro._n if_o by_o their_o judge_n you_o mean_v their_o minister_n they_o be_v not_o their_o judge_n and_o they_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o disclose_v all_o their_o fault_n to_o they_o pa._n if_o not_o how_o can_v they_o absolve_v they_o from_o what_o they_o know_v not_o pro._n absolution_n be_v either_o general_a or_o particular_a the_o general_n be_v sufficient_a except_o in_o particular_a grievous_a sin_n which_o trouble_v the_o conscience_n for_o these_o we_o enjoin_v a_o particular_a absolution_n but_o for_o the_o general_a it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o minister_n to_o know_v in_o general_a that_o they_o be_v sinner_n and_o see_v that_o they_o profess_v to_o be_v penitent_a pa._n 69._o christ_n in_o speak_v these_o word_n who_o sin_n you_o forgive_v etc._n etc._n john_n 20._o 24._o speak_v true_a or_o false_a pro._n he_o speak_v true_a pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o absolution_n pro._n we_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o power_n but_o we_o condemn_v your_o abuse_n of_o it_o pa._n 70._o that_o which_o the_o scripture_n command_v either_o be_v necessary_a or_o it_o be_v not_o pro._n whatever_o the_o scripture_n command_v as_o our_o duty_n be_v necessary_a pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o deny_v that_o of_o st._n james_n 5._o 16._o confess_v your_o fault_n one_o to_o another_o pro._n we_o do_v not_o deny_v it_o but_o we_o say_v it_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n it_o speak_v of_o confess_v one_o to_o another_o to_o our_o brethren_n therefore_o by_o no_o mean_n prove_v confession_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n to_o a_o priest_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n we_o condemn_v not_o the_o use_n of_o confession_n but_o the_o make_v it_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o part_n of_o a_o sacrament_n of_o purgatory_n pa._n 71._o there_o either_o be_v a_o penal_a prison_n or_o place_n of_o temporal_a punishment_n and_o payment_n after_o this_o life_n or_o there_o be_v not_o pro._n there_o be_v not_o pa._n why_o then_o do_v you_o falsify_v that_o scripture_n zach._n 9_o 11._o thou_o also_o in_o the_o blood_n of_o thy_o covenant_n have_v set_v forth_o thy_o prisoner_n out_o of_o the_o pit_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o water_n pro._n we_o do_v not_o falsify_v it_o but_o you_o do_v it_o be_v not_o thou_o in_o the_o blood_n of_o thy_o covenant_n but_o as_o for_o thou_o in_o the_o blood_n of_o thy_o covenant_n or_o who_o covenant_n be_v by_o blood_n i_o have_v send_v forth_o thy_o prisoner_n out_o of_o the_o pit_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o water_n and_o it_o speak_v not_o a_o word_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o the_o deliverance_n of_o the_o israelite_n and_o the_o redemption_n by_o the_o messiah_n pa._n why_o do_v you_o falsify_v that_o text._n mal._n 3._o 3_o he_o shall_v purify_v the_o son_n of_o levi._n pro._n we_o do_v not_o falsify_v it_o but_o we_o affirm_v it_o prove_v nothing_o of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o the_o conversion_n even_o of_o the_o priest_n by_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n which_o we_o find_v be_v fulfil_v act_v 6._o 7._o or_o if_o it_o do_v speak_v of_o a_o purgatory_n it_o speak_v only_o of_o one_o for_o the_o son_n of_o levi_n and_o therefore_o say_v nothing_o of_o such_o a_o three_o place_n as_o you_o maintain_v pa._n but_o you_o falsify_v that_o text_n 1_o cor._n 3._o 15._o the_o work_n of_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v manifest_a and_o yet_o he_o himself_o shall_v be_v save_v yet_o so_o as_o by_o fire_n pro._n we_o do_v not_o but_o we_o say_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o whole_a text_n be_v a_o allusion_n