Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	apostle_n	church_n	tradition_n	9,173	5	9.2350	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A34012	Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib.	Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P.	1675 (1675)	Wing C5389; ESTC R5065	231,046	593

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always_o offer_v rather_o work_v a_o remembrance_n or_o commemoration_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n with_o primasuis_fw-la s._n augustine_n scholar_n who_o preoccupate_v the_o mounsieurs_fw-fr oblection_n thus_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v then_o do_v not_o our_o priest_n daily_o offer_v sacrifice_n they_o offer_v sure_o because_o we_o sin_v daily_o &_o daily_o have_v need_n to_o be_v cleanse_v and_o because_o he_o can_v die_v he_o have_v give_v we_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n that_o as_o his_o passion_n be_v the_o redemption_n and_o absolution_n of_o all_o the_o world_n so_o also_o this_o oblation_n may_v be_v a_o redemption_n and_o cleanse_n to_o all_o that_o offer_v it_o in_o truth_n and_o verity_n in_o which_o sense_n also_o venerable_a bede_n call_v the_o mass_n redemtionem_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o animaesempiternam_fw-la the_o everlasting_a redemption_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n lib._n 4._o c._n 22._o histor_n to_o these_o above_o mention_v holy_a doctor_n who_o 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and_o proper_a shape_n i_o confess_v the_o minor_a do_v not_o fall_v under_o our_o sense_n in_o a_o sacramental_a shape_n or_o in_o the_o form_n and_o shape_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o by_o experience_n we_o know_v fall_v under_o our_o sense_n i_o deny_v the_o minor_a and_o consequence_n also_o for_o we_o never_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o his_o proper_a humane_a shape_n but_o only_o sacramental_o that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o yet_o we_o hold_v that_o he_o be_v real_o and_o personal_o there_o because_o he_o himself_o say_v so_o in_o most_o express_a term_n these_o sacramental_a species_n then_o be_v obvious_a to_o our_o sense_n and_o christ_n be_v real_o in_o they_o they_o be_v destroy_v although_o christ_n body_n according_a to_o its_o natural_a and_o human_a shape_n be_v not_o destroy_v for_o he_o be_v not_o reduplicative_o so_o in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o specificative_o his_o sacramental_a 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and_o yet_o if_o the_o canon_n and_o statute_n make_v by_o his_o church_n in_o her_o general_n council_n be_v opposite_a and_o contradictory_n to_o his_o commandment_n it_o will_v necessary_a follow_v that_o he_o contradict_v himself_o because_o he_o and_o his_o holy_a spirit_n be_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n and_o so_o by_o contradict_v his_o spirit_n he_o must_v needs_o contradict_v himself_o but_o he_o promise_v his_o church_n militant_a that_o he_o will_v be_v with_o she_o all_o day_n unto_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o tell_v she_o that_o his_o spirit_n which_o be_v in_o she_o and_o his_o word_n which_o he_o put_v in_o her_o mouth_n shall_v not_o recede_v from_o her_o mouth_n nor_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o her_o seed_n nor_o of_o her_o seed_n seed_n from_o that_o time_n and_o for_o ever_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v that_o his_o spirit_n shall_v be_v always_o her_o director_n and_o guide_n in_o all_o her_o conciliary_a definition_n and_o decree_n yet_o if_o notwithstanding_o this_o reason_n deduce_v out_o of_o clear_a scripture_n mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n will_v still_o persist_v in_o his_o fearful_a exclamation_n and_o object_n against_o we_o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o evident_a and_o clear_a then_o that_o this_o constantian_a canon_n or_o law_n be_v contradictory_n to_o christ_n institution_n and_o command_n concern_v the_o cup_n we_o deny_v that_o law_n to_o have_v at_o all_o oppose_a christ_n commandment_n because_o of_o the_o difference_n of_o time_n that_o intercede_v betwi●…_n the_o commandment_n and_o that_o law_n christ_n tell_v his_o disciple_n or_o church_n representative_a that_o he_o have_v many_o thing_n to_o say_v to_o they_o but_o they_o can_v not_o bear_v they_o at_o that_o time_n john_n 16._o whence_o follow_v that_o christ_n by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n may_v have_v reveal_v some_o thing_n to_o his_o church_n which_o he_o will_v have_v observe_v by_o her_o child_n whereof_o he_o 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