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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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vi_fw-la ordinis_fw-la svi_fw-la presbyterialis_fw-la duo_fw-la sunt_fw-la genera_fw-la alia_fw-la enim_fw-la immediatè_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la singulis_fw-la personaliter_fw-la alia_fw-la vero_fw-la immediatè_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la singulis_fw-la personaliter_fw-la sed_fw-la conjunctis_fw-la collegialiter_fw-la sive_fw-la presbyterio_n forb_n irenis_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o prop._n 13._o pag._n 191._o de_fw-la prohibitis_fw-la ordinantibus_fw-la power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o ecclesiastical_a government_n than_o the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n and_o if_o the_o presbytery_n be_v the_o only_a executioner_n of_o the_o censure_a discipline_n then_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v without_o a_o presbytery_n it_o may_v want_v the_o discipline_n in_o respect_n of_o execution_n for_o where_o the_o officer_n be_v want_v there_o the_o office_n also_o be_v want_v as_o touch_v the_o execution_n thereof_o 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