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city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v where_o his_o error_n be_v like_a to_o the_o former_a what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o this_o man_n not_o one_o of_o all_o these_o signifi_v a_o church_n of_o a_o city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v if_o he_o mean_v it_o to_o be_v extend_v or_o intend_v to_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n then_o only_o one_o which_o be_v his_o meaning_n it_o be_v true_a the_o church_n of_o these_o city_n here_o specify_v viz._n of_o jerusalem_n antioch_n ephesus_n corinth_n thessalonica_n etc._n etc._n may_v have_v member_n then_o which_o dwell_v scatter_o and_o some_o a_o good_a way_n of_o from_o the_o place_n of_o their_o ordinary_a main_a meeting_n and_o such_o also_o as_o do_v assemble_v often_o in_o divers_a uncertain_a company_n as_o in_o time_n of_o trouble_n there_o be_v reason_n &_o it_o often_o come_v to_o pass_v but_o yet_o in_o those_o primitive_a time_n they_o all_o in_o each_o church_n than_o make_v no_o mo_z but_o parish_n but_o which_o
first_o settle_v in_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o this_o can_v be_v doubt_v it_o be_v not_o so_o i_o do_v both_o doubt_v it_o and_o be_o sure_a of_o the_o contrary_n christ_n settle_v the_o moderation_n of_o the_o key_n first_o in_o 18.17_o in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o church_n his_o commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n be_v give_v 20.23_o give_v mat._n 28.19_o joh._n 20.23_o after_o not_o deprive_v the_o church_n of_o her_o former_a power_n but_o join_v the_o apostle_n &_o their_o successor_n to_o she_o as_o her_o guide_n withal_o two_o thing_n further_a be_v to_o be_v note_v 1._o doct._n bilson_n here_o make_v all_o pastor_n indifferent_o to_o have_v power_n to_o minister_n and_o deny_v sacrament_n &_o censure_n whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n only_o have_v not_o this_o power_n for_o say_v he_o they_o the_o ordinary_a minister_n must_v be_v trust_v with_o both_o or_o with_o neither_o 162._o neither_o pag._n 110._o 133._o 162._o 199._o 162._o you_o must_v free_v they_o from_o both_o or_o leave_v both_o unto_o they_o wherein_o also_o none_o may_v compel_v they_o or_o force_v they_o sure_o this_o quite_o overthrow_v his_o own_o practice_n and_o state_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n in_o england_n 2._o we_o may_v observe_v a_o syllogism_n in_o his_o own_o word_n here_o &_o elsewhere_o speak_v indefinite_o of_o those_o which_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 111._o say_v pag._n 111._o they_o must_v look_v not_o only_o what_o they_o challenge_v but_o also_o from_o who_o they_o derive_v it_o if_o from_o the_o apostle_n then_o be_v they_o their_o successor_n if_o from_o christ_n as_o colleague_n join_v with_o the_o apostle_n we_o must_v find_v that_o consociation_n in_o the_o gospel_n before_o we_o clear_v they_o from_o intrusion_n no_o man_n shall_v take_v this_o honour_n unto_o himself_o but_o he_o that_o be_v call_v of_o god_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v if_o they_o be_v call_v by_o christ_n 5._o heb._n 5._o read_v their_o assignation_n from_o christ_n if_o they_o be_v not_o surcease_v that_o presumption_n and_o to_o do_v otherwise_o be_v to_o 15_o to_o pag._n 19_o mat._n 15_o transgress_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n for_o the_o tradition_n of_o men._n 318._o men._n against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 2._o pag._n 318._o the_o authority_n of_o patriarch_n archbishop_n mean_a bishop_n over_o other_o minister_n be_v not_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n but_o long_o after_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o time_n and_o the_o will_n of_o prince_n therefore_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v of_o itself_o the_o authority_n of_o patriarch_n archbishop_n mean_a bishop_n over_o minister_n be_v intrusion_n and_o presumption_n and_o transgression_n of_o god_n commandment_n at_o we_o doctor_n downame_n will_v rage_v if_o we_o shall_v conclude_v so_o but_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v take_v it_o better_o in_o do._n bilsons_n word_n his_o &_o his_o pag._n 114._o 115._o &_o father_n and_o council_n if_o they_o absolute_o exclude_v the_o people_n consent_n i_o leave_v under_o his_o own_o censure_n 22â—_n censure_n here_o and_o also_o pa._n 22â—_n before_o observe_v but_o i_o take_v they_o to_o mean_v otherwise_o though_o indeed_o a_o very_a great_a power_n and_o almost_o absolute_a be_v now_o exercise_v by_o many_o diocesan_n bb._n in_o excommunication_n &_o absolution_n he_o say_v cyprian_n &_o augustine_n yield_v the_o people_n a_o consent_n be_v 119._o be_v pag._n 119._o not_o for_o any_o right_n they_o have_v but_o to_o prevent_v scandal_n but_o their_o right_n both_o by_o precept_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o apostle_n be_v sufficient_o show_v before_o yet_o indeed_o it_o be_v to_o prevent_v scandal_n among_o the_o people_n also_o which_o very_o point_n be_v a_o firm_a reason_n likewise_o that_o this_o spiritual_a liberty_n of_o the_o people_n than_o be_v their_o right_n for_o first_o they_o can_v not_o be_v scandalize_v so_o oft_o fear_v to_o loose_v their_o consent_n in_o such_o affair_n so_o many_o age_n together_o and_o in_o so_o far_o distant_a country_n but_o that_o they_o be_v then_o teach_v and_o they_o learn_v from_o time_n to_o time_n that_o this_o be_v their_o right_n if_o the_o contrary_a than_o have_v be_v teach_v than_o they_o can_v not_o have_v be_v scandalize_v nor_o make_v jealous_a lest_o they_o may_v be_v wrong_v in_o this_o behalf_n as_o they_o be_v that_o they_o be_v be_v manifest_a by_o all_o monument_n of_o those_o time_n and_o by_o our_o adversary_n confession_n therefore_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o spiritual_a government_n be_v then_o teach_v and_o it_o be_v their_o right_n in_o the_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n and_o true_o this_o ever_o have_v be_v be_v and_o will_v be_v scandalous_a and_o offensive_a just_o to_o a_o christian_a understanding_n congregation_n viz._n to_o have_v any_o thing_n spiritual_o and_o ecclesiastical_o force_v on_o they_o the_o case_n be_v perpetual_a but_o 18.7_o but_o mat._n 18.7_o woe_n to_o they_o by_o who_o offence_n come_v special_o to_o such_o therefore_o woe_n to_o they_o who_o yield_v not_o this_o liberty_n to_o such_o people_n perpetual_o yet_o he_o say_v 112._o say_v pag._n 112._o in_o scripture_n he_o find_v neither_o example_n of_o it_o nor_o reason_n for_o it_o who_o can_v let_v word_n if_o man_n listen_v to_o speak_v who_o can_v stay_v they_o some_o will_v shut_v their_o eye_n and_o say_v they_o see_v not_o light_v at_o noon_n against_o election_n with_o the_o people_n consent_n he_o say_v before_o 69._o before_o pag._n 69._o example_n be_v no_o precept_n as_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v example_n how_o beit_n beside_o that_o this_o be_v the_o 1.7_o the_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr cleric_n 1.7_o very_a jesuit_n shift_n he_o himself_o confute_v all_o these_o evasion_n though_o they_o be_v his_o own_o first_o yield_v that_o 373._o that_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 373._o the_o apostle_n teach_v the_o church_n by_o their_o example_n then_o testify_v thus_o 49._o thus_o pag_n 49._o this_o prerogative_n to_o be_v best_a acquaint_v with_o the_o will_n &_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o to_o have_v their_o mouth_n and_o pen_n direct_v and_o guide_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n into_o all_o truth_n aswell_o of_o doctrine_n as_o of_o discipline_n be_v proper_a to_o the_o apostle_n again_o 43._o again_o pag._n 43._o they_o set_v a_o order_n among_o christian_n in_o all_o thing_n needful_a for_o the_o government_n continuance_n peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o 106._o and_o pag._n 106._o the_o scripture_n once_o write_v suffice_v all_o age_n for_o instruction_n and_o here_o i_o beseech_v the_o christian_a reader_n of_o all_o degree_n that_o they_o take_v i_o not_o amiss_o to_o which_o some_o man_n humour_n be_v to_o prone_a viz._n where_o in_o a_o other_o place_n i_o have_v say_v the_o particular_a congregation_n of_o england_n be_v true_a church_n 6._o church_n declarâ—â—_n pag._n 6._o accidental_o my_o meaning_n be_v that_o as_o those_o particular_a congregation_n have_v in_o they_o godly_a and_o holy_a christian_n consociate_v together_o to_o serve_v god_n so_o far_o as_o they_o see_v agreeable_o to_o his_o word_n so_o they_o be_v in_o right_a from_o christ_n essential_o true_a church_n of_o god_n and_o be_v so_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o in_o public_a not_o to_o be_v absolute_o separate_v from_o but_o in_o respect_n as_o these_o congregation_n be_v part_n of_o proper_a diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n so_o they_o be_v true_a church_n of_o christ_n accidental_o accident_n in_o respect_n of_o they_o it_o be_v a_o accident_n for_o proper_a diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o n._n testam_fw-la have_v in_o they_o by_o accident_n the_o true_a essential_a form_n of_o christ_n visible_a church_n see_v also_o this_o form_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o constitution_n &_o form_n of_o the_o other_o as_o †_o heretofore_o i_o note_v 23._o note_v reas._o for_o ref_o pag._n 23._o &_o by_o compare_v their_o divers_a definition_n in_o 318._o in_o pag_n 200._o &_o 318._o this_o treatise_n it_o will_v most_o plain_o appear_v and_o so_o these_o two_o divers_a respect_n &_o acknowledgemente_n as_o i_o conceive_v may_v well_o b_v yield_v to_o the_o particular_a congregation_n now_o in_o england_n neither_o do_v i_o see_v any_o just_a exception_n against_o it_o in_o vain_a also_o do_v doct._n downe_n upbraid_v we_o that_o 4.81_o that_o def._n 4.81_o we_o seek_v to_o overturn_v aswell_o those_o church_n where_o the_o geneva_n discipline_n be_v establish_v as_o we_o that_o 1.10_o that_o def._n 1.10_o we_o agree_v with_o no_o reform_a church_n in_o the_o world_n that_o 47._o that_o pag._n 38._o 47._o nonâ—_n be_v of_o our_o mind_n but_o brownist_n and_o such_o like_a he_o make_v the_o browniste_n happy_a man_n can_v he_o reproove_v they_o if_o they_o follow_v zuinglius_fw-la
est_fw-la qui_fw-la ignoret_fw-la calvin_n say_v in_o this_o place_n mat._n 18.17_o 4.11.1_o 18.17_o calvin_n instit_fw-la 4.11.1_o ius_n judaici_n synedrij_fw-la transfertur_fw-la ad_fw-la christi_fw-la â—egem_fw-la and_o 4.12.7_o and_o instit._fw-la 4.12.7_o illa_fw-la est_fw-la legitima_fw-la in_o excommuâ—cando_fw-la homine_fw-la progressio_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la soli_fw-la seniores_fw-la â—orsum_fw-la id_fw-la faciant_fw-la sed_fw-la consciâ_fw-la &_o approbante_fw-la â—cclesiâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n 4.1.15_o etc._n 4.1.15_o totius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hac_fw-la cognitio_fw-la est_fw-la clavium_fw-la potestatem_fw-la dominus_fw-la fidelium_fw-la soâ—etati_fw-la contulit_fw-la 4.1.22_o contulit_fw-la 4.1.22_o and_o he_o call_v excommunication_n 11.2_o excommunication_n 11.2_o fidelium_fw-la judicium_fw-la &_o the_o excommunicate_a say_v he_o be_v 12.4_o be_v ibidem_fw-la &_o 12.4_o fidelium_fw-la â—uffragijs_fw-la damnatus_fw-la thus_o must_v these_o &_o â—ther_o worthy_a man_n of_o god_n be_v understand_v and_o not_o to_o contradict_v themselves_o beza_n also_o of_o the_o call_v of_o minister_n â—aith_o 1â—_n â—aith_o bez._n confess_v 7_o 1â—_n per_fw-la quod_fw-la ostium_fw-la sunt_fw-la ingress_n quis_fw-la â—os_v vocavit_fw-la etc._n etc._n vbi_fw-la electio_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la vbi_fw-la â—opuli_fw-la suffragia_fw-la by_o what_o door_n enter_v they_o who_o call_v they_o where_o be_v the_o election_n of_o â—he_n elder_n where_o be_v the_o people_n voice-giving_a by_o this_o show_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n to_o be_v necessary_a also_o in_o the_o make_n of_o minister_n finis_fw-la math._n 6.10_o thy_o will_v be_v doâ—_n a_o table_n of_o the_o chief_a matter_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n a._n how_o a_o true_a church_n may_v be_v accidental_o pag._n 306._o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n a_o precedent_n during_o life_n pag._n 237._o the_o name_n angel_n or_o apostle_n give_v in_o scripture_n to_o minister_n also_o dominus_fw-la in_o latin_a etc._n etc._n prove_v not_o that_o they_o may_v be_v call_v lord_n iâ—_n english_a pag._n 121._o 123._o etc._n etc._n all_o apostolic_a ordinance_n be_v divine_a &_o unchangeable_a by_o man_n pa._n 139._o 142._o the_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n for_o many_o age_n with_o us._n pag._n 53._o etc._n etc._n asia_n proper_o take_v how_o large_a pag._n 206._o comfortable_a assurance_n where_o pag._n 77._o 154._o 155._o 159._o our_o attestator_n be_v no_o browniste_n anabaptist_n schismatik_n fantastical_a fanatical_a doater_n pag._n 249._o 279._o 306._o b._n belgike_a liturgy_n and_o synod_n with_o us._n pa._n 50._o beza_n consent_v with_o we_o full_o in_o effect_n pag._n 22._o etc._n etc._n 49._o 50._o 322._o beza_n abuse_v pag._n 13._o 22._o 270._o etc._n etc._n 322._o beza_n fail_v pa._n 237._o d._n billons_n chief_a matter_n in_o his_o perp._n gov_n answer_v pag._n 99_o 107._o 108._o 110._o 112._o 116._o 120._o 121._o 132._o 143._o etc._n etc._n 146._o 148._o 239._o etc._n etc._n 250._o 261._o 276._o etc._n etc._n d._n bilsons_n contradistion_n pa._n 70._o 71._o 73._o 107._o 144._o 146._o 150._o 225._o 281._o 283._o 286._o 288._o 289._o 290._o 293._o 302._o 303._o 305._o we_o deny_v not_o bishop_n simple_o pag._n 14._o 264._o seven_o divers_a sort_n of_o bishop_n pa._n 274._o bishop_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n differ_v from_o we_o in_o substance_n of_o their_o call_v p._n 98._o 99_o 128._o a_o bishop_n to_o a_o parish_n pag._n 32._o 104._o 213._o etc._n etc._n bohemian_a confession_n for_o us._n pag._n 48._o bucer_n for_o us._n pag._n 33._o bullinger_n for_o us._n pag._n 37._o c._n calvin_n full_o with_o us._n p._n 25._o etc._n etc._n 149._o 193._o 214._o 269._o 323._o calvin_n much_o abuse_v p._n 13._o 267._o etc._n etc._n 322._o 323._o call_v of_o minister_n must_v be_v by_o the_o congregation_n or_o else_o we_o shall_v go_v to_o wrack_n pag._n 159._o 160._o 161._o 167._o call_v of_o minister_n essential_o by_o the_o congregation_n pag._n 246._o 247._o 78._o 79._o 80._o 81._o 164._o 166._o 168._o the_o truth_n be_v not_o so_o fruitful_o defend_v where_o christ_n visible_a church_n &_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n be_v not_o well_o clear_v pa._n 158._o 167._o circumstance_n in_o church_n government_n changeable_a by_o man_n pag._n 280._o 247._o chemnicius_n for_o us._n pag._n 47._o 178._o the_o church-controversie_n in_o england_n for_o uâ—_n trifle_n pa._n 193._o 195._o 269._o 320._o a_o visible_a church_n what_o see_v ecclesia_fw-la the_o dignity_n and_o power_n of_o each_o visible_a church_n pag_n 164._o 165._o christ_n visible_a church_n divine_a constitution_n pa._n 74._o 75._o 142._o etc._n etc._n 147._o 102._o 104._o 154._o christ_n visible_a church_n form_n unchangeable_a by_o man_n pag._n 134._o 135._o 139._o 142._o 147._o 149._o 150._o 153._o 281._o a_o true_a visible_a church_n essential_o sometime_o with_o out_o guide_n pag._n 164._o 165._o 278._o 298._o 300._o why_o some_o strive_v to_o change_v the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n church_n ecclesia_fw-la in_fw-la mat._n 18.17_o pa._n 216._o protestant_n may_v justify_v their_o church_n &_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n sound_o if_o they_o will_n pag._n 262._o 264._o 266._o 267._o what_o god_n have_v give_v to_o the_o congregation_n man_n can_v not_o take_v away_o pag._n 76._o 77._o the_o offer_n of_o conference_n not_o without_o necessary_a cause_n and_o reason_n pag._n 196._o 250._o the_o true_a cause_n and_o reason_n why_o we_o conform_v not_o pag._n 137._o two_o main_a point_n of_o our_o whole_a controversy_n pag._n 10._o 303._o but_o the_o chief_a of_o all_o be_v about_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o church_n govern_v pag._n 10._o 16._o 17._o cornelius_n b._n of_o rome_n proove_v no_o diocesan_n church_n nor_o bishop_n pag._n 233._o 234._o cyprian_n teach_v the_o people_n consent_n to_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la pag._n 57_o 59_o d._n danaeus_n strong_o with_o us._n pag._n 41._o 42._o a_o definition_n of_o christ_n true_a visible_a church_n pag._n 318._o a_o definition_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n pag._n 200._o a_o diocesan_n church_n proper_a &_o improper_a p._n 88_o one_o kind_n of_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n be_v apostolical_a pag._n 89._o the_o best_a sort_n of_o diocesan_n bishop_n not_o apostolic_a pa._n 15._o 89._o 90._o yet_o not_o simple_o evil_a pag._n 16._o 89_o 97._o nor_o yet_o expedient_a now_o ibid._n all_o our_o question_n be_v against_o the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n pag._n 15._o 88_o 97._o 98._o 131._o 225._o substantial_a difference_n between_o a_o church_n and_o ministry_n of_o one_o congregation_n and_o of_o a_o diocese_n pag._n 208._o 128._o 129._o a_o diocesan_n church_n but_o in_o a_o shadow_n till_o constantine_n time_n p._n 126._o 226._o etc._n etc._n 231._o etc._n etc._n 253_o no_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n can_v be_v where_o the_o people_n free_o consent_v pag._n 84._o 85._o etc._n etc._n 88_o apropre_fw-fr diocesan_n church_n be_v new_a pag._n 226._o a_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n induce_v the_o pope_n pag._n 157._o 179._o the_o papist_n shame_n diocesan_n about_o their_o church_n constitution_n and_o call_n to_o the_o ministry_n pag._n 161._o 167._o 169._o 171._o 172._o 183._o 150._o diocesan_n bb._n be_v plurality_n man_n and_o nonresident_n pag._n 131._o 185._o diocesan_n bd._n metropolitan_n in_o office_n archbishop_n patriarch_n in_o substance_n be_v all_o one_o pag._n 273._o yea_o a_o universal_a bishop_n also_o pag._n 181._o 184._o 186._o 189._o 191._o in_o a_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n a_o true_a church_n may_v be_v but_o accidental_o pag._n 306._o 87._o dionysius_n the_o first_o titular_a diocesan_n bishop_n in_o the_o west_n pag._n 92._o 93._o diplodophilus_n one_o hold_v two_o way_n to_o heaven_n pag._n 104._o 125._o 151._o 153._o d._n dove_n turn_v eusebius_n false_o for_o his_o advantage_n 3_o time_n pag._n 226._o 227._o 90._o d._n downame_n defence_n answer_v pa._n 11._o etc._n etc._n 98._o 199._o etc._n etc._n 221._o etc._n etc._n 245._o etc._n etc._n d._n downame_n make_v apostle_n and_o evangelistes_n inferior_a in_o jurisdiction_n to_o bishop_n pag._n 241._o 260._o 251._o d._n downame_n levity_n pag._n 14._o 74._o 83._o 313_o d._n downame_n vain_a boast_n pag._n 217._o d._n down_o abuse_v scripture_n p._n 201._o 202._o 203._o e._n ecclesia_fw-la a_o church_n visible_a be_v only_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n pa._n 102._o 103._o 104._o 108._o 110._o 201_o 202._o 203._o 205._o 209._o 213._o 214._o 322._o 323._o the_o question_n of_o elder_n or_o presbyter_n whole_o impertinent_a pag._n 11._o 12._o 62._o our_o adversary_n still_o equivocat_n or_o contradict_v themselves_o pag._n 14._o 15._o 98._o 99_o their_o equivocation_n pag._n 120._o 121._o 148._o 204._o 209._o 240._o evaristus_n title_n be_v but_o precinct_n or_o quarter_n in_o one_o congregation_n not_o parish_n pa._n 93._o eusebius_n of_o no_o perfect_a credtt_n 91._o 92._o 229._o and_o yet_o in_o many_o thing_n for_o us._n f._n fabulous_a and_o bastard_n writing_n cite_v by_o doct._n downame_n pag._n 257._o raw_n and_o undigested_a fancy_n pag._n 147._o father_n after_o 300._o year_n of_o christ_n no_o fit_a judge_n of_o
if_o our_o proof_n stand_v or_o subvertion_n if_o your_o answer_n be_v good_a for_o if_o this_o fail_v well_o may_v bishop_n claine_v their_o authority_n by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n by_o any_o divine_a precept_n express_v in_o the_o scripture_n they_o can_v not_o say_v he_o so_o let_v we_o see_v then_o how_o sound_o this_o will_v stand_v but_o first_o i_o desire_v he_o to_o remember_v if_o it_o happen_v that_o this_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o the_o scripâ—â—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d subvert_v and_o then_o he_o be_v force_v to_o fly_v to_o the_o church_n custom_n for_o succour_n that_o himself_o have_v ruin_v cast_v down_o and_o deface_v that_o weak_a hold_v all_o ready_a so_o that_o there_o he_o can_v have_v no_o relief_n now_o then_o to_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n that_o titus_n &_o timothy_n be_v bishop_n he_o frame_v 4._o argument_n for_o it_o 1._o that_o power_n to_o ordain_v sit_v minister_n to_o convent_n &_o discharge_v unfit_a prescribe_v to_o titus_n &_o timothy_n be_v no_o power_n proper_a to_o evangelist_n we_o grant_v this_o whole_o even_o the_o conclusion_n it_o be_v another_o point_n and_o nothing_o against_o us._n the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o 2._o argument_n be_v like_a to_o the_o former_a therefore_o we_o grant_v it_o also_o for_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o timothy_n or_o titus_n be_v proper_a bishop_n which_o be_v the_o question_n yet_o in_o the_o minor_a where_o he_o say_v that_o presbytery_n claim_v this_o power_n comit_v to_o timothy_n &_o tite_n even_o to_o ordain_v examine_v censure_n &_o deprive_v pastor_n i_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v true_a presbytery_n claim_v not_o this_o power_n neither_o have_v they_o it_o proper_o &_o original_o as_o bucer_n show_v 33._o show_v pag_n 33._o before_o proper_o and_o original_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v this_o power_n the_o presbytery_n have_v only_o the_o authority_n of_o administer_a the_o same_o &_o that_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o piscator_fw-la and_o vâ—sinus_n â—1_n vâ—sinus_n pag._n 46._o â—1_n before_o do_v express_v and_o further_o i_o answer_v by_o that_o distinction_n above_o note_v this_o power_n of_o ordain_v examine_v censure_v etc._n etc._n commit_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n the_o presbytery_n in_o deed_n have_v and_o execute_v material_o but_o not_o formal_o which_o make_v his_o minor_a proposition_n to_o be_v false_a most_o clear_o his_o 3._o argument_n be_v conclude_v in_o no_o form_n but_o where_o he_o 391._o he_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 391._o say_v the_o precept_n of_o ordain_v and_o censure_v be_v deliver_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o to_o those_o that_o shall_v succeed_v they_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la timothy_n power_n &_o function_n in_o this_o behalf_n must_v be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v true_a likewise_o material_o but_o not_o formal_o their_o successor_n be_v to_o execute_v the_o same_o in_o deed_n always_o as_o touch_v the_o material_a action_n those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v but_o under_o divers_a form_n of_o ministery_n or_o manner_n of_o administration_n here_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v proper_o evangelistes_n do_v these_o action_n under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o evangelisticall_a ministry_n sometime_o apostle_n do_v the_o same_o action_n but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o apostolical_a ministry_n after_o they_o bishop_n do_v the_o same_o action_n also_o but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o proper_a bishop_n office_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o these_o action_n material_o which_o timothy_n and_o titus_n do_v prove_v not_o the_o office_n and_o ministry_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n formal_o to_o be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v a_o very_a weak_a conclusion_n and_o very_o crooked_a his_o 4._o argument_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n have_v so_o construe_v the_o apostle_n word_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n touch_v their_o government_n and_o he_o name_v eusebius_n jerome_n ambrose_n etc._n etc._n d._n rainolds_n answer_v hart_n the_o priest_n 267._o confer_v pag._n 267._o i_o perceive_v the_o pope_n must_v fetch_v his_o supremacy_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n even_o so_o our_o adversary_n when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o must_v fetch_v the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n office_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n they_o fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o not_o eusebius_n not_o the_o rest_n do_v construe_v those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o belong_v only_o to_o bishop_n much_o â—â—5_n much_o see_v before_o pag._n â—24_n â—â—5_n less_o do_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a hyperbole_n but_o these_o writer_n acknowledge_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o have_v ben_fw-mi bishop_n nay_o not_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n they_o neither_o acknowledge_v nor_o know_v any_o such_o in_o their_o time_n as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v yet_o only_o of_o these_o our_o question_n be_v again_o they_o hold_v timothy_n &_o titus_n not_o to_o be_v bishop_n at_o all_o proper_o but_o in_o a_o general_a sense_n as_o 238._o as_o pag._n 230._o 238._o before_o i_o observe_v if_o they_o mean_v otherwise_o they_o miss_v the_o truth_n say_v d._n rainolds_n 267_o conf._n p._n 267_o howbeit_o they_o suffer_v none_o but_o bishop_n either_o to_o ordain_v or_o degrade_v presbyter_n yet_o as_o i_o say_v before_o not_o absolute_o with_o out_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o our_o l._n bishop_n do_v if_o any_o among_o they_o incline_v to_o neglect_v the_o people_n herein_o they_o do_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n of_o those_o time_n last_o it_o be_v true_a these_o ancient_n to_o much_o rest_v on_o custom_n &_o counsaill_n of_o man_n and_o humane_a policy_n in_o set_v the_o church_n government_n they_o as_o jerome_n incline_v to_o much_o to_o approve_v diocesan_n provincial_n and_o patriarchall_a bishop_n with_o too_o absolute_a power_n only_o ground_v upon_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n though_o they_o know_v they_o want_v divine_a disposition_n whence_o afterward_o antichrist_n easy_o spring_v up_o now_o than_o i_o pray_v with_o what_o colour_n can_v doct._n bilson_n from_o those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n plead_v for_o our_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n l._n bishop_n who_o they_o nothing_o concern_v and_o say_v the_o word_n be_v singular_a the_o charge_n be_v vehement_a the_o party_n be_v bishop_n 299._o bishop_n perp._n gov_n pag._n 299._o and_o how_o vain_o do_v he_o insult_v without_o reason_n charge_v we_o that_o 30â—_n that_o pag._n 30â—_n fire_n will_v better_o agree_v with_o water_n than_o we_o with_o ourselves_o which_o be_v his_o familiar_a custom_n not_o we_o after_o he_o let_v we_o see_v what_o d._n downame_n say_v for_o timothy_n and_o titus_n bishoprike_v true_o in_o effect_n he_o say_v nothing_o more_o for_o he_o follow_v d._n bilson_n most_o diligent_o yet_o he_o have_v a_o cartload_n of_o word_n about_o this_o point_n which_o he_o know_v well_o to_o be_v his_o only_a refuge_n wherein_o yet_o he_o can_v find_v no_o help_n first_o i_o will_v examine_v the_o pith_n of_o his_o discourse_n and_o they_o i_o will_v set_v down_o reason_n of_o i_o own_o prove_v sound_o that_o timothy_n &_o titus_n be_v not_o proper_a bishop_n first_o he_o say_v 75_o say_v def._n 4._o p._n 75_o it_o be_v presuppose_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v to_o they_o bishoply_n authority_n it_o be_v untrue_a this_o be_v not_o presuppose_v then_o the_o epistle_n be_v the_o very_a pattern_n and_o precedent_n of_o bishoply_n function_n &c_n &c_n well_o what_o then_o then_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n i_o deny_v this_o consequence_n there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o this_o and_o t.c._n answer_n to_o d._n whitgifts_n like_a argument_n be_v sound_o and_o good_a though_o this_o great_a logician_n call_v it_o 76._o it_o pag._n 76._o sleight_n and_o frivolous_a the_o direction_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n about_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v not_o 77._o not_o pag._n 77._o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n as_o he_o untrue_o add_v in_o the_o end_n for_o himself_o give_v this_o power_n and_o that_o right_o to_o other_o christian_n 99_o christian_n pag._n 99_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o the_o truth_n give_v it_o to_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n the_o 4.11_o the_o eph_n 4.11_o superior_n of_o bishop_n his_o reason_n 77._o reason_n pag._n 77._o these_o be_v perpetual_a direction_n be_v a_o excellent_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o this_o power_n be_v indeed_o essential_o seat_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o people_n people_n the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n essential_o in_o the_o people_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o such_o christian_a congregation_n only_o be_v perpetual_a apostle_n
be_v not_o perpetual_a evangeliste_n be_v not_o perpetual_a also_o bishop_n yea_o presbyter_n be_v not_o perpetual_a in_o church_n under_o the_o gospel_n but_o a_o congregation_n be_v perpetual_a absolute_o â—â—_o absolute_o math._n 16._o â—â—_o the_o gate_n of_o destruction_n shall_v never_o overcome_v it_o wherefore_o this_o power_n be_v essential_o in_o the_o congregation_n and_o so_o the_o consequence_n be_v false_a 77._o false_a pag._n 77._o these_o direction_n be_v perpetual_a therefore_o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n i_o say_v this_o sequel_n can_v not_o be_v true_a wherewith_o be_v conjoin_v a_o other_o false_a reason_n viz._n they_o be_v not_o common_a either_o to_o other_o christian_n or_o other_o minister_n therefore_o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n nay_o they_o be_v common_a they_o may_v be_v and_o be_v exercise_v by_o divers_a form_n of_o administration_n as_o before_o i_o show_v &_o not_o all_o way_n by_o bishop_n and_o yet_o i_o grant_v thy_o be_v to_o be_v exercise_v most_o common_o usual_o and_o ordinary_o by_o bishop_n i_o mean_v true_a bishop_n his_o own_o distinction_n here_o be_v good_a there_o be_v 147_o be_v pa._n 102._o 147_o potestas_fw-la and_o forma_fw-la vel_fw-la modus_fw-la potestatis_fw-la the_o power_n &_o the_o accidental_a form_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o power_n it_o be_v true_a the_o power_n be_v perpetual_a the_o accidental_a form_n or_o manner_n thereof_o be_v variable_a in_o which_o respect_n the_o consequence_n also_o of_o his_o new_a 77._o new_a pa._n 77._o proposition_n which_o 78._o which_o pag._n 78._o once_o again_o he_o take_v for_o grant_v once_o again_o i_o deny_v the_o proof_n of_o his_o assumption_n we_o grant_v yet_o with_o a_o distinction_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o tim._n and_o tit._n the_o office_n of_o bishop_n be_v describe_v general_o but_o not_o as_o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n material_o not_o formal_o and_o only_o so_o that_o power_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n till_o the_o end_n also_o this_o viz._n material_o that_o power_n be_v not_o a_o high_a power_n then_o episcopal_a but_o formal_o it_o be_v and_o so_o his_o consequence_n be_v false_a for_o a_o evangelist_n power_n be_v high_o yea_o the_o church_n power_n by_o who_o simple_o sometime_o both_o the_o make_n of_o minister_n and_o censure_n be_v perform_v be_v 3.22_o be_v 1._o cor._n 3.22_o high_a than_o the_o bishop_n power_n again_o he_o say_v this_o power_n of_o bishop_n be_v so_o much_o of_o the_o apostolical_a power_n as_o be_v to_o continue_v to_o the_o end_n but_o then_o he_o shall_v not_o make_v the_o bishop_n power_n more_o than_o the_o apostolical_a as_o 248_o as_o see_v before_o pag._n 240._o 248_o he_o do_v which_o thus_o also_o appear_v viz._n the_o apostle_n exclude_v not_o the_o people_n consent_n but_o his_o bishop_n do_v how_o then_o say_v he_o it_o be_v apostolical_a beside_o in_o all_o this_o he_o equivocate_v for_o this_o power_n of_o bishop_n be_v the_o apostle_n as_o i_o say_v general_o not_o proper_o material_o not_o formal_o he_o will_v find_v 79._o find_v pag._n 79._o a_o difference_n in_o his_o refuter_fw-la but_o it_o be_v easy_o reconcile_v viz._n understand_v he_o of_o divers_a kind_n of_o bishop_n thus_o some_o kind_n of_o bishop_n be_v in_o christ_n testament_n some_o absolute_o have_v no_o place_n there_o the_o former_a have_v power_n from_o christ_n the_o late_a have_v none_o after_o he_o make_v great_a outcry_n of_o 81._o of_o pag._n 80._o 81._o schismatical_a novelty_n &_o dream_n &_o dotage_n fantastical_a &_o fanatical_a spirit_n and_o frenzy_n right_o as_o the_o papist_n cry_v out_o haeretik_n haeretik_n themselves_o be_v the_o great_a haeretik_n of_o all_o but_o the_o chritstian_a reader_n may_v know_v that_o this_o be_v the_o doctor_n fury_n &_o malice_n against_o our_o attestator_n before_o cite_v and_o against_o other_o also_o who_o follow_v they_o yea_o against_o etc._n against_o see_v before_o pag._n 73._o 74._o etc._n etc._n himself_o it_o be_v &_o some_o of_o his_o friend_n his_o slander_n that_o we_o maintain_v such_o popular_a government_n as_o morellius_n strive_v for_o be_v sufficient_o answer_v 24._o answer_v pag._n 24._o before_o some_o of_o the_o separation_n i_o grant_v be_v to_o offensive_a this_o way_n which_o i_o be_o hearty_o sorry_a for_o they_o take_v the_o word_n in_o math._n 18.17_o tell_v the_o church_n more_o popular_o they_o there_o be_v need_n or_o then_o reason_n or_o good_a order_n will_v howbeit_o in_o this_o yet_o they_o hold_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o true_a church-goverm_a they_o err_v but_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o order_n though_o it_o be_v to_o 18.17_o to_o bera_n anâ—â—_n cat_n in_o math._n 18.17_o foul_a that_o be_v they_o will_v examine_v all_o scandal_n etc._n etc._n whatsoever_o in_o the_o presence_n &_o under_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a multitude_n perpetual_o &_o necessary_o i_o say_v perpetual_o &_o necessary_o wherein_o i_o wonder_v they_o see_v not_o the_o many_o very_a ill_a consequent_n which_o will_n &_o must_v ensue_v many_o time_n as_o touch_v we_o what_o we_o hold_v herein_o i_o have_v show_v 83._o show_v pag._n 22._o 24._o 82._o 83._o before_o and_o our_o docts_n do_v most_o injurious_o 355._o injurious_o def._n 4.81_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 355._o wrong_v beza_n &_o the_o geneva_n discipline_n if_o that_o be_v geneva_n discipline_n which_o viret_n calvin_n &_o beza_n teach_v they_o in_o say_v they_o differ_v material_o from_o us._n our_o d._n ask_v be_v there_o any_o show_n in_o scripture_n or_o in_o reason_n that_o the_o sheep_n shall_v rule_v their_o shepherd_n or_o the_o flock_n their_o pastor_n the_o very_a voice_n of_o a_o jesuit_n &_o not_o of_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n bellarm._n argue_v just_a so_o 7._o so_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr clersc_n 1._o 7._o against_o the_o old_a procestants_n as_o to_o the_o point_n let_v he_o know_v that_o reasonable_a sheep_n under_o the_o gosp_n have_v more_o to_o do_v in_o their_o spiritual_a government_n 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