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A92287 The reasons of the Dissenting Brethren against the third proposition, concerning presbyterial government· Humbly presented. Westminster Assembly; Goodwin, Thomas, 1600-1680.; Westminster Assembly (1643-1652). Answer of the Assembly of Divines unto the reasons of the seven Dissenting Brethren, against the proposition of divers congregations being united under one Presbyteriall government. 1645 (1645) Wing R573; Thomason E27_14; ESTC R209981 37,798 45

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of_o stone_n it_o be_v true_a each_o stone_n be_v not_o a_o heap_n of_o stone_n but_o each_o stone_n be_v a_o stone_n in_o that_o heap_n so_o this_o company_n of_o elder_n must_v be_v suppose_v both_o a_o presbytery_n and_o also_o elder_n to_o this_o whole_a people_n and_o every_o member_n of_o they_o which_o be_v far_o prove_v thus_o 1._o the_o scripture_n will_v have_v the_o people_n look_v at_o they_o and_o honour_v they_o as_o elder_n in_o all_o act_n of_o rule_v as_o well_o as_o in_o preach_v and_o especial_o wherein_o the_o most_o and_o chief_a of_o roll_a lie_n and_o wherein_o the_o excellency_n of_o their_o rule_n be_v see_v they_o rule_v most_o and_o best_a when_o meet_v in_o this_o common_a presbytery_n upon_o that_o relation_n we_o be_v to_o honour_v they_o as_o perform_v this_o rule_n and_o under_o that_o relation_n they_o must_v be_v say_v to_o perform_v it_o the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o be_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n especial_o those_o that_o labour_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n tim._n epist._n 1._o chap._n 5._o ver._n 17._o and_o beside_o otherwise_o we_o destroy_v the_o relation_n of_o elder_n quâ_fw-la elder_n in_o the_o high_a act_n of_o govern_v which_o be_v exercise_v only_o in_o a_o presbytery_n 2._o the_o new_a testament_n do_v indifferent_o and_o promiscuous_o use_v the_o word_n presbytery_n and_o the_o word_n elder_n of_o the_o same_o person_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o same_o people_n and_o therefore_o to_o who_o these_o elder_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v a_o presbytery_n they_o must_v bear_v the_o relation_n of_o elder_n matthew_n chap._n 21._o 23._o those_o that_o be_v call_v elder_n of_o the_o people_n be_v call_v luke_n 22._o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o the_o presbytery_n of_o the_o people_n so_o as_o if_o they_o relate_v as_o a_o presbytery_n to_o the_o people_n to_o the_o same_o people_n they_o relate_v as_o elder_n second_o for_o that_o distinction_n of_o their_o be_v elder_n only_o in_o a_o community_n to_o all_o those_o congregation_n as_o one_o church_n in_fw-la sensu_fw-la aggregato_fw-la but_o not_o in_fw-la sensu_fw-la diviso_fw-la to_o every_o person_n thereof_o as_o be_v instance_v in_o burgess_n etc._n etc._n first_o this_o church_n as_o it_o be_v totum_fw-la aggregatum_fw-la be_v but_o a_o abstract_a notion_n but_o the_o rule_n and_o government_n of_o the_o elder_n in_o a_o presbytery_n fall_v upon_o person_n in_o particular_a and_o every_o member_n of_o that_o church_n if_o therefore_o they_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o presbytery_n to_o that_o church_n it_o must_v be_v that_o they_o be_v elder_n to_o every_o person_n therein_o again_o it_o must_v be_v remember_v where_o we_o be_v namely_o upon_o what_o the_o scripture_n hold_v forth_o so_o the_o proposition_n run_v and_o if_o there_o have_v be_v those_o differ_a relation_n of_o elder_n which_o from_o those_o similitude_n in_o commonwealth_n army_n and_o the_o university_n be_v give_v it_o be_v necessary_a the_o scripture_n shall_v have_v hold_v it_o forth_o by_o like_o differ_a name_n and_o respect_n or_o by_o differ_v charge_n whereby_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o this_o relation_n oblige_v they_o to_o this_o duty_n and_o this_o other_o relation_n to_o that_o which_o be_v not_o do_v be_v therefore_o to_o we_o a_o fiction_n that_o it_o be_v necessary_a appear_v from_o the_o instance_n themselves_o as_o in_o that_o of_o the_o tribe_n there_o be_v general_a elder_n of_o all_o the_o tribe_n and_o there_o be_v and_o perhaps_o some_o of_o they_o the_o same_o man_n that_o be_v head_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o particular_a tribe_n but_o as_o this_o be_v a_o differ_a relation_n and_o respect_n in_o the_o same_o or_o diverse_a person_n so_o they_o have_v name_n and_o title_n of_o difference_n and_o distinction_n for_o the_o head_n general_a as_o we_o may_v call_v they_o be_v call_v elder_n of_o the_o people_n the_o particular_a elder_n of_o particular_a 33._o tribe_n be_v call_v by_o way_n of_o distinction_n from_o they_o elder_n of_o such_o city_n family_n etc._n etc._n and_o there_o be_v as_o distinct_a law_n give_v in_o such_o case_n the_o elder_n of_o the_o several_a tribe_n do_v such_o and_o such_o particular_n in_o their_o tribe_n respective_o and_o the_o general_a elder_n have_v reserve_v case_n of_o blasphemy_n etc._n etc._n set_v down_o by_o the_o law_n so_o in_o that_o instance_n of_o the_o head_n of_o college_n and_o head_n of_o the_o university_n there_o be_v as_o a_o differ_a so_o a_o distinguish_a character_n the_o name_n be_v change_v the_o particular_a body_n be_v call_v college_n the_o general_a body_n the_o university_n and_o their_o several_a special_a relation_n to_o their_o college_n be_v express_v by_o the_o title_n of_o master_n of_o such_o and_o such_o college_n and_o the_o other_o by_o the_o title_n of_o head_n to_o the_o university_n yea_o and_o according_o there_o be_v differ_v statute_n the_o local_a statute_n for_o each_o college_n a_o part_n or_o for_o college_n as_o college_n and_o the_o duty_n of_o master_n in_o their_o special_a relation_n and_o there_o be_v statute_n for_o the_o university_n and_o their_o duty_n as_o head_n thereof_o and_o this_o distinction_n and_o difference_n be_v necessary_a if_o there_o be_v this_o differ_a relation_n but_o for_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n if_o we_o come_v to_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o find_v out_o these_o several_a jurisdiction_n and_o relation_n of_o elder_n therein_o we_o still_o read_v but_o simple_o and_o single_o elder_n and_o church_n as_o relative_n no_o such_o note_n of_o distinction_n and_o also_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o elder_n to_o the_o people_n and_o people_n to_o elder_n it_o speak_v simular_o and_o univocal_o so_o as_o whoever_o will_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o be_v elder_n all_o those_o duty_n fall_v upon_o they_o let_v they_o distinguish_v how_o they_o can_v and_o to_o confirm_v this_o the_o instance_n in_o the_o minor_a serve_v and_o where_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o distinguish_v we_o be_v not_o to_o distinguish_v and_o if_o the_o elder_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v elder_n to_o that_o church_n both_o in_o sensu_fw-la diviso_fw-la and_o every_o member_n thereof_o and_o also_o in_o sensu_fw-la composito_fw-la in_o their_o presbytery_n unto_o the_o whole_a than_o those_o general_a elder_n must_v bear_v the_o like_a relation_n to_o that_o classical_a church_n and_o every_o member_n of_o it_o else_o the_o difference_n be_v so_o vast_a and_o the_o consequent_a difference_n of_o duty_n thereupon_o depend_v such_o as_o it_o be_v necessary_a a_o distinction_n shall_v have_v be_v make_v in_o scripture_n that_o each_o may_v know_v their_o duty_n if_o all_o the_o record_n law_n and_o rule_v case_n of_o this_o kingdom_n shall_v in_o set_v down_o the_o ordinary_a government_n thereof_o have_v make_v mention_n only_o and_o single_o of_o burgess_n as_o the_o ruler_n and_o of_o corporation_n as_o the_o correlate_n to_o they_o and_o use_v no_o other_o distinguish_a word_n and_o there_o be_v undeniable_o burgess_n of_o every_o incorporate_v town_n continue_v from_o antiquity_n if_o any_o will_v afterwards_o pretend_v that_o this_o word_n corporation_n be_v intend_v by_o our_o ancestor_n to_o import_v a_o association_n or_o community_n of_o many_o of_o these_o corporation_n into_o one_o shire_n and_o that_o by_o burgess_n of_o those_o corporation_n be_v mean_v a_o community_n of_o all_o those_o burgess_n in_o one_o body_n for_o government_n and_o so_o pretend_v the_o same_o name_n without_o distinction_n and_o say_v they_o be_v also_o mean_v yea_o and_o further_o if_o the_o law_n and_o charter_n concerning_o such_o burgess_n in_o each_o corporation_n the_o duty_n give_v they_o in_o charge_n by_o the_o law_n in_o their_o relation_n to_o their_o corporation_n do_v run_v without_o any_o distinction_n of_o what_o the_o burgess_n in_o the_o suppose_a great_a corporation_n shall_v do_v in_o that_o relation_n and_o community_n from_o what_o the_o same_o burgess_n in_o their_o lesser_a corporation_n in_o a_o more_o proper_a relation_n yea_o and_o if_o the_o duty_n set_v down_o in_o those_o law_n mutual_o between_o corporation_n and_o those_o burgess_n shall_v argue_v a_o inconsistency_n with_o the_o government_n of_o burgess_n over_o many_o corporation_n in_o common_a as_o the_o minor_a here_o show_v it_o to_o be_v in_o our_o case_n but_o all_o natural_o fall_v in_o with_o that_o of_o burgess_n over_o single_a corporation_n in_o this_o case_n to_o say_v that_o therefore_o this_o kingdom_n do_v hold_v forth_o there_o may_v not_o be_v that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o law_n thereof_o such_o a_o government_n of_o the_o burgess_n of_o corporation_n over_o many_o be_v not_o this_o a_o right_a way_n of_o argue_v to_o overthrow_v such_o a_o pretence_n and_o if_o in_o answer_n to_o such_o argument_n it_o shall_v be_v say_v
now_o if_o they_o be_v elder_n in_o common_a because_o a_o presbytery_n as_o be_v say_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o argument_n than_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v argue_v a_o presbytery_n only_o because_o they_o be_v elder_n in_o common_a for_o than_o the_o argument_n run_v in_fw-la circulo_fw-la and_o the_o chief_a and_o first_o reason_n of_o their_o be_v elder_n for_o no_o other_o be_v mention_v be_v according_o hold_v forth_o in_o their_o be_v elder_n to_o that_o church_n in_o common_a whereas_o according_a to_o presbyterial_a principle_n there_o be_v a_o primary_a relation_n of_o elder_n quà_fw-la elder_n to_o their_o particular_a fix_a congregation_n reason_n against_o the_o three_o proof_n of_o the_o second_o branch_n viz._n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v the_o ordinary_a act_n of_o presbyter_n as_o presbyter_n in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n do_v prove_v a_o presbyterial_a government_n in_o that_o church_n before_o the_o dispersion_n the_o proof_n of_o the_o whole_a 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warrant_n one_o man_n titus_n do_v ordain_v elder_n etc._n etc._n that_o therefore_o there_o may_v be_v one_o man_n a_o bishop_n that_o have_v power_n to_o ordain_v etc._n etc._n in_o and_o over_o several_a church_n and_o this_o argument_n will_v be_v strong_a from_o the_o instance_n of_o a_o evangelist_n for_o episcopal_a power_n then_o this_o of_o apostolical_a government_n for_o the_o presbyterial_a by_o how_o much_o it_o be_v the_o more_o inferior_a office_n but_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v more_o immediate_a and_o transcendent_a and_o so_o the_o power_n of_o a_o evangelist_n be_v near_a to_o a_o ordinary_a succession_n and_o it_o will_v as_o well_o follow_v that_o any_o one_o presbyter_n alone_o may_v govern_v many_o congregation_n because_o one_o of_o these_o apostle_n may_v as_o that_o because_o the_o apostle_n do_v govern_v these_o joint_o that_o therefore_o many_o presbyter_n over_o several_a congregation_n may_v second_o each_o of_o these_o apostle_n as_o he_o have_v by_o virtue_n of_o his_o apostolical_a commission_n the_o power_n of_o they_o all_o so_o he_o have_v relation_n of_o ministry_n unto_o all_o these_o suppose_a congregation_n unto_o every_o person_n thereof_o for_o the_o performance_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o duty_n of_o preach_v to_o they_o admonish_v they_o etc._n etc._n but_o thus_o in_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n over_o many_o congregation_n fix_v and_o their_o pastor_n and_o elder_n fix_v to_o they_o the_o several_a elder_n be_v deny_v to_o have_v the_o relation_n of_o elder_n to_o each_o congregation_n but_o make_v up_o only_o a_o eldership_n in_o common_a as_o unite_v over_o all_o these_o but_o the_o apostle_n here_o have_v the_o relation_n to_o both_o and_o therefore_o if_o this_o apostolical_a frame_n be_v make_v a_o pattern_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o all_o the_o elder_n of_o these_o congregation_n be_v direct_o and_o immediate_o elder_n to_o each_o congregation_n and_o every_o member_n of_o they_o and_o not_o only_o of_o a_o common_a presbytery_n for_o so_o the_o apostle_n be_v if_o it_o be_v allege_v that_o those_o act_n of_o government_n perform_v by_o they_o in_o that_o church_n be_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o they_o ordinary_a act_n such_o as_o presbyter_n perform_v and_o that_o therefore_o answerable_o their_o person_n themselves_o be_v in_o they_o to_o be_v consider_v as_o elder_n because_o that_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o only_o apostle_n but_o elder_n also_o as_o john_n epistle_n 2._o verse_n 1._o and_o peter_n epist._n 1._o chap._n 5._o verse_n 1._o and_o therefore_o might_n and_o do_v act_n as_o elder_n in_o ordinary_a act_n of_o church_n government_n and_o be_v therefore_o therein_o to_o be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o just_a pattern_n to_o we_o and_o to_o have_v rule_v these_o congregation_n of_o jerusalem_n as_o a_o college_n or_o body_n of_o elder_n unite_v conedscend_v so_o to_o act_v as_o common_a presbyter_n take_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n as_o acts._n 6._o as_o likewise_o they_o do_v in_o every_o church_n where_o they_o come_v join_v with_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o as_o elder_n and_o not_o as_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o that_o they_o may_v give_v a_o pattern_n and_o example_n of_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n especial_o see_v that_o what_o they_o thus_o do_v they_o do_v as_o a_o unite_a body_n to_o many_o congregation_n consider_v as_o one_o church_n it_o be_v answer_v to_o the_o first_o that_o although_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v elder_n yet_o they_o be_v so_o call_v virtual_o not_o formal_o and_o but_o because_o apostleship_n contain_v all_o office_n in_o it_o so_o as_o they_o be_v elder_n but_o upon_o this_o ground_n that_o they_o be_v apostle_n and_o therefore_o john_n in_o that_o very_a epistle_n where_o he_o style_v himself_o a_o elder_n he_o yet_o write_v canonical_a scripture_n as_o a_o apostle_n and_o take_v on_o he_o to_o threaten_v diotrephes_n as_o a_o apostle_n to_o remember_v he_o which_o as_o a_o formal_a elder_n he_o can_v not_o 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honourable_a house_n of_o commons_o be_v to_o all_o parliamentary_a purpose_n as_o much_o a_o house_n when_o but_o two_o or_o three_o above_o forty_o as_o when_o four_o hundred_o nor_o do_v this_o always_o fall_v out_o that_o all_o classical_a presbytery_n have_v a_o great_a number_n than_o some_o parochial_a scripture_n have_v determine_v neither_o how_o few_o will_v constitute_v a_o classical_a presbytery_n nor_o how_o many_o may_v be_v in_o a_o parochial_a practice_v many_o time_n make_v they_o equal_a sect._n 6._o second_o now_o for_o the_o formale_fw-la the_o unite_n of_o this_o matter_n into_o a_o consessus_fw-la or_o caetus_fw-la presbyter_n become_v unite_v into_o a_o presbytery_n in_o the_o classical_a by_o have_v pastoral_a charge_n in_o such_o a_o division_n whosoever_o come_v so_o to_o be_v dispose_v of_o he_o be_v no_o soon_o pastor_n to_o such_o a_o parish_n but_o he_o be_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la member_n of_o such_o a_o classis_fw-la the_o presbyter_n of_o a_o parochial_a presbytery_n be_v as_o near_o unite_v and_o more_o they_o be_v unite_v in_o the_o choice_n and_o call_v of_o the_o same_o congregation_n they_o govern_v and_o unite_v in_o the_o whole_a work_n of_o the_o ministry_n over_o the_o same_o people_n so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o only_o fellow_n governor_n but_o fellow_n labourer_n in_o the_o same_o vineyard_n there_o be_v therefore_o no_o just_a ground_n for_o such_o a_o distinction_n or_o difference_n between_o presbytery_n and_o presbytery_n in_o respect_n either_o of_o the_o matter_n or_o the_o form_n sect._n 7._o three_o nor_o three_o do_v we_o find_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o scripture_n make_v they_o as_o from_o different_a employment_n or_o function_n to_o differ_v first_o we_o pretend_v and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o proposition_n the_o one_o be_v superior_a the_o other_o inferior_a but_o how_o can_v you_o say_v the_o scripture_n have_v make_v this_o difference_n when_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n speak_v this_o way_n in_o any_o 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excommunicate_a suspend_v admit_v member_n appoint_v time_n for_o worship_n and_o the_o like_a the_o classical_a presbytery_n reserve_v ordination_n and_o excommunication_n to_o themselves_o but_o the_o other_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o parochial_a presbytery_n thus_o some_o presbyterian_n divide_v the_o work_n other_o possible_o otherwise_o but_o how_o can_v we_o affirm_v any_o such_o designment_n from_o the_o scripture_n if_o you_o have_v not_o two_o sort_n either_o in_o name_n or_o nature_n to_o be_v find_v there_o and_o none_o of_o these_o act_n or_o administration_n but_o may_v be_v do_v by_o that_o one_o the_o scripture_n mention_v which_o doubtless_o they_o may_v see_v ordination_n seem_v to_o be_v specify_v in_o the_o text_n if_o the_o great_a then_o doubtless_o the_o lesser_a the_o pastor_n in_o one_o place_n be_v say_v to_o exhort_v in_o another_o to_o comfort_v in_o another_o to_o visit_v the_o sick_a this_o will_v not_o warrant_v distinct_a sort_n of_o pastor_n for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o sort_n speak_v of_o in_o scripture_n we_o must_v interpret_v all_o these_o several_a administration_n to_o belong_v to_o that_o one_o sect._n 9_o it_o be_v not_o find_v a_o easy_a work_n in_o this_o assembly_n to_o find_v two_o sort_n of_o elder_n teach_v and_o rule_v notwithstanding_o all_o the_o scripture_n have_v say_v of_o these_o and_o in_o some_o place_n so_o plain_a as_o if_o of_o purpose_n to_o distinguish_v they_o if_o it_o be_v so_o hard_a a_o matter_n by_o scripture_n light_a to_o hold_v forth_o two_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v more_o difficult_a to_o find_v out_o two_o sort_n of_o presbytery_n especial_o see_v as_o it_o be_v general_o grant_v and_o this_o by_o the_o presbyterian_n themselves_o that_o for_o above_o fifty_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v but_o one_o kind_n of_o presbytery_n sect._n 10._o it_o have_v be_v the_o wisdom_n of_o state_n to_o keep_v and_o preserve_v the_o bound_n and_o limit_n of_o their_o judicature_n evident_a and_o distinct_a and_o as_o free_a from_o controversy_n as_o may_v be_v if_o law_n and_o ordinance_n about_o matter_n of_o m●um_fw-la and_o ●uum_fw-la and_o such_o inferior_a claim_n shall_v not_o be_v so_o evident_a the_o authority_n of_o these_o court_n will_v be_v in_o a_o readiness_n to_o relieve_v wrong_n and_o injury_n through_o such_o mistake_n but_o controversy_n and_o clash_n about_o these_o high_a and_o public_a interest_n be_v no_o other_o in_o the_o issue_n then_o the_o divide_n of_o a_o kingdom_n within_o itself_o be_v man_n wise_a in_o his_o generation_n than_o jesus_n christ_n he_o be_v our_o lawgiver_n the_o government_n be_v lay_v upon_o his_o shoulder_n he_o be_v the_o wonderful_a counsellor_n the_o prince_n of_o peace_n and_o therefore_o sure_o though_o other_o matter_n of_o practice_n and_o duty_n shall_v have_v obscurity_n in_o the_o rule_n yet_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a he_o have_v order_v authority_n and_o 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