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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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liberty left them to elect what civil government they by publique consent shall deem most convenient provided it be generally agreeable to Gods Word which hath prescribed generall rules applicable to all civill Governments actions as well as Ecclesiasticall and spirituall though no one Government in particular And why the Government of the CHVRCH MILITANT should be more particularly uniformly unalterably said down in scripture then the Government of Christian Kingdoms Nations states under the Gospel which leaves both of them equally undetermined since both of them were alike limited among the Israelites under the Law no rational man cangive any solid reason Christ being King of Kings Lord of Lords yea a great King over all the Earth the only Potentate and Lord of Kingdoms Nations Republiques and of mens bodyes estates as well as KING and Lord of his Church Saints or of mens soules and consciences 9ly There was not only one uniforme Church-government at first under the Gospell in all Churches no not in the Apostles times for in the originall gathering and planting of the Christian Churches they had at first only Apostles Brethren no Elders or Deacons After that their Churches increasing they proceeded to elect ordain Deacons in the Churches of Ierusalem and afterwards some other Churches though not in all for ought we read Not long after the Apostls ordained Elders in Churches which had none at first after that Widowes in some Churches not in all In the primitive Churches some Congregations had Apostle s Evangelists Prophets workers of miracles Healers by miraculous extraordinary gifts of healing men endued with diversities of Tongues Interpretation of Tongues GOVERNMENTS that is men gifted with an extraordinary faculty of Governing Churches all which the Scriptures many Divines distinguish Other Churches at that time had none of these Officers or members and all Churches have beene deprived of them since those dayes these Officers not being perpetuall but temporary as all acknowledge though Christ might have continued a succession of them still had he pleased Therefore the Government and Officers of all Churches not being de facto one and the selfesame in all particulars in the very Primitive times as well as since it can never be proved to be of divine right but one the sel same in al succeeding ages without the least variation since it was not so in the Apostles days 10ly The Apostles speech 1. Cor. 12. 4 5. 6. c. There are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God which worketh all in all compared with v. 8. to 13. ch 9. v. 19. to 24. I made my selfe servant unto all that I might gaine all And unto the Jew I became as a Jew that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law as under the Law that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law To them that are without Law as without Law that I might gaine them that are without Law To the weake I became as weake that I might gaine the weake I am made all things to all men that I might by all meanes save some paralleld with Acts 15. 1. 2. 5. 6. to 32. Ch. 21. 18. to 30. by which it is evident that many Churches of the Iewes and those in Jerusalem did still rotain the use of Circum●ition purification other Iewish Rites Ceremonies which the Churches of the Gentiles by the Apostles owne resolutions WERE NOT TO OBSERUE And with Acts c. 2. to cap. 22. where it expresly appeares that the Apostles and other Christians equally frequented the Iewish Temple Synagogues conforming themselves to the Orders discipline thereof and their owne private Assemblie Cougregations consisting all of professed Christians Wil expresly clear it that all particular Churches Congregations in the Apostles times had not one and the selfe same Church-government Orders Ceremonies Therefore it is most cleare there is no such uniforme general government or discipline necessarily prescribed in the Gospel unto al without the least variation as is objected Eleventhly It must be granted to me till disproved that before the Law from Adams Creation till Moses there was no one universall set forme of Church Government and discipline enjoyned to be observed by all the world from which none might vary in any particular That under the Law it selfe there was one forme of Government Worship Discipline Ceremonies and Solemnities to be observed in the Wildernesse another in the Lind of Canaan One forme in and under the Tabernacle revealed by God described by Moses another in and under the Temple shewed by God and appointed by David and Salomon Yea the second Temple and its Ornaments services differed somwhat from the first and all of them expired when the Gospell came If then there were no one universall constant forme of Church-Government Discipline before and under the Law it selfe then by parity of reason till direct Scripture proofes be produced to the contraty there neither is nor can be any such under the Gospell Twelfthly The Scripture as all must acknowledge gives not many particular but mostly generall Rules for the Government and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives Children Servants Families callings the fashion of our apparell gestures eating drinking sleep c. Yea the promises and threatnings in it are for the most part generall and indefinite yet applyable to every particular person and occasion If then there be for the most part only generall Rules precepts which admit some Latitude and variety in particulars prescribed to us for the very ordering and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives apparell meat drinke c. Then certainely there are but generall Rules and Precepts given us for the Government Discipline of the Churches which admit varieties of Government discipline in sundry particulars so as they agree in the generall with the Word and bee not repugnant to it as well as the generall Rules for regulating our words thoughts actions conversations callings apparell meat drinke and family Governments admit of variety which more immediately concerne every man then the more remote and generall Government of the Church But against this my Brother Burton Objects 1. That God in the Old Testament did give this charge to Moses See that thou doe all things according to the patterne shewed thee in the Mount Hee must not vary ONE PIN And when the Temple was built God was so exact in this that he would not leave it to David himselfe though both a King and a Prophet and a man after Gods owne heart to set up what worship he pleased in the Temple but God gave him an exact patterne of all and that not only by his Spirit but in writing that he might neither adde to nor omit IN THE LEAST TITLE 1 Chron. 28. And it was never left
and of absolute authority within it self subject to no other Jurisdiction then that of Christ his Word and Spirit and not to any other particular Congregation Synod or Nationall Church or humane power whatsoever Therefore the Parliament and Assembly can make no Canons nor Rules to binde it nor presc●ibe any Church-government or Discipline to it Brother this is the summe of your whole Book and it grieves me to see so many strange Parodoxes piled up together to support an Independent Fabrick by one of your yeares and Iudgement Give me leave therefore to discover your manifold over-sights in this particular by such demonstrations as you shall not be able to gain say First then I say that the whole Church of Christ is but one intire Mysticall Body whereof Christ is the supreame Spirituall Head and Governour and all particular Churches only members of this intire Body as the head hand feet are members of the Naturall Body not absolute bodies of themselves as every house or Parish in a City is a member of the whol City Every Company or Regiment in an Army a member of that Realme not absolute bodies Cities Armies Kingdomes of themselves That this is truth we have sundry expresse Resolutions of Scripture in positive tearms as the 1 Cor. 12. 12 13 14. 26. 27. and in truth the whole Chapter Ephes ● 22 23. c. 2. 14. 15. to the end c. 4. 11. to 17. c. 5. 23. to 33. Col. 1. 18. 24. c. 2. 17. 19. which you may peruse at leisure Ephes 4. 3. to 7. Endeavouring to keepe the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace For there is ONE BODY one Spirit one Lord one Faith one Baptisme One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all And John 17. 20. 21. 23. Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE as thou father art one and I am in thee that they also MAY BE ONE IN US and may be made perfect IN ONE Hence the Scripture usually expresseth the whol Catholike Church of Christ which allages hitherto have believed to be but one so far as to make it an Article of their Creed under singular titles as the Church A WOMAN MY LOVE MY DOVE my Sister my Spouse a Garden a Vineyard a City a Congregation an Assembly Sion Jerusalem an House a Flocke a Body and the like to note it unity that it is but ONE intire spirituall Corporation though distributed into severall particular Congregations scattered ●ver the face of the whole World This being an indubitable verity strikes off the head of your Galiah and subverts the very foundation of Independent Congregations which would be absolute and compleat spirituall Bodies within themselves and no members of a Catholike or Nationall Church Secondly If all the particular Churches in the World bee in reality but one intire Body and Church of Christ then by the self-same reason likewise all the particular Congregations within one Nation Kingdome Republike united in one civill Corporation under one Head and temporall government are but one and the selfe-same Church and members one of another not absolute Independent Congregations of themselves subordinate to no other even as all the particular persons in a House make up but one Family all the particular Houses Parishes in a City but one City all the severall Cities Counties in a Kingdome one Realme and all the Nations on the earth but one world of men These cleare principles of Divinity Policy Nature experience none can or may deny unlesse he hath lost his sences or means to subvert all humane Relations and Societies And my Brother acknowledging the whole Nation of the Jewes to be but one intire Nationall Church though divided into sundry Synagogues and particular Congregations as is evident by Acts 15. 24. FOR MOSES OF OLD TIME hath IN EVERY CITY them that Preach him being read in THE SYNAGOGVES EVERY SABBATH DAY compared with Psa 74. 8. Matth. 6. 2. 5. c. 7. 1. 8. c. 9. 35. c. 23. 34. Mark 1. 21. 23. 29. 39 c. 3. 1. n. 5. 22. Luke 4. 15. to 44. c. 13. 10. c. 21. 12. John 6. 59. c. 9. 22. c. 18. 20. c. 10. 2 Acts 9. 2. 20. c. 13. 5. 14. 42. c. 14. 1. c. 17. 1. 10. c. 18. 4. 7. 13. 26. c. 19. 8. c. 22. 12. must of necessity subscribe to this conclusion issuing naturally from it that all particular Congregations in any one Christian Realm Nation Republike are but one intire Church though divided into severall squadrons for necessity and conveniency as one house is into many Roomes one City into many Streets Parishes companies wards one Kingdome into divers Counties Provinces One Parliament into severall Houses Sub-Committees as there is occasion one Armie into severall Regiments Brigades Companies Troopes Thirdly It is at clear as Noonday That in all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Corporations Congregations or Societies of men united into one common Politique Body the whol body or greater part hath by the Law of God Nature Nations a lawful inherent jurisdiction over every particular member or lesser part to make Laws and common Rules to obliege them for the safety peace benefit of the whol Body In all Parliaments Councels of State or War Cities Corporations Societies Courts of Iustice Chapters Committees yea in all elections of Magistrates Ministers Knights or Burgesses of Parliament Majors of Cities Masters Wardens of Companies heads or fellows of Colledges Church-wardens and the like the whol Body or major voyce bindes the lesser number all the whol body ever over-rules the parts And it must needs be so els there could be no Rule Order Government in any of them if one member only or the lesser part should over-rule and prescribe Lawes unto the whole or greater part not they to them The like rule holds firme and hath ever taken place 〈…〉 ●●mall generall Nation Provinciall Parochiall or Congregation 〈…〉 Synods Convocations Assemblies or meetings in all matters of 〈…〉 Discipline Government Lawes Rules Edicts Censure Descition 〈…〉 Yea in Independent Churches themselves the Votes Orders 〈◊〉 determinations of the whole or major part of the Congregation binde all the other dissenting as well as consenting members neither will any Independent Congregation admit of any into their new society but such who shall first submit to the Covenant Orders Government Rules and Discipline that Congregation or the major part thereof hath elected established Fourthly It is a principle of the Law of Nature and common Reason which all Republikes Churches Societies of men in every age till this present have admitted that the Lawes Ordinances Decrees of the greatest Civill or Ecclesiasticall Assemblies where the whole Realme Republike Church or Nation are personally or representatively present by their deputies or Proxies obliege all inferiour Corporations Societies Churches Congregations Persons within their
as Neubrigensis l. 1. c. 19. records In the Lateran Councell held by Charles the great and Pope Adrian and called principally by this Pope the Councell was most solemnly held by 53 Ecclesiasticall persons Bishops or Abbots together with Judges Magistrates and Doctors of Law from all parts and also persons of all sorts and states of that City and all the Clergie of the Church of Rome who made enquiry of the customes lawes and manners of that Church and Empire consulting also by what meanes heresies and seditions might be rooted out of the Apostolique See and treating of the dignity of the Senate and Empire of Rome seeing that by reason of these things a false errour was spread over the whole world In another Councell of Lateran under Pope Leo and the Emperour Otho the Pope himselfe in his Speech to the Emperour confesseth that that Councell consisted not onely of Clergy-men but of Judges and Doctors of Law That such may be competent and meet Judges in matters of Religion and Church-affaires is evident by this notable passage of Cardinall Jacobatius though a great stickler for the Popes and Prelates authorities that in a Synod holden before Constantine and Helena where it was disputed Whether the Jewish or Christian Law should be preferrred Craton a Philosopher who would not possesse any worldly goods and Zenosimus who never received present from any in the time of his Consulship were appointed Iudges of this controversie With which the saying of learned John Gerson Chancellour of Paris accords There was a time when without any rashnesse or prejudice to faith the controversies of faith were referred to the judgement of Pagan Philosophers who presupposing the faith of Christ to be such as it was confessed to be however they did not beleeve it yet they knew what would follow by evident and necessary consequence from it and what was repugnant to it Thus it was in the Councell of Nice as is left unto us upon record So likewise Eutropius a Pagan Philosopher was chosen JVDGE between Origen and the Marcionites who were condemned by him If Pagan Philosopehrs then much more Christian Laicks endowed with learning and wisdome may be fit Iudges of controversies of Religion and Ecclesiasticall affaires and fit to have Votes in Synods And that they have been so deemed in ancient times is evident by one memorable history recorded by Possidonius in the life of S. Augustine cap. 12 13 14. who not onely informes us that Crispinus Bishop of Calamen a Donatist being accused before the Proconsull for an Hereticke and for breaking the lawes against Hereticks and denying himselfe to be one St Augustine and he debated the controversie three severall times before the Proconsull in a great multitude of Christian people expecting the event both at Carthage and throughout all Africk and that Crispin at last was pronounced an Hereticke by the Proconsull by a judiciall sentence After which there was a generall meeting at Carthage between all the Catholike Bishops and the Donatists by the speciall command of the most glorious and religious Emperour Honorius who sent Marcellinus the Tribune and Notary into Africk to bee Iudge in that Collation In which Conference the Donatists being throughly confuted and convinced of errour by the Catholikes were condemned by the sentence of the Iudge From which sentence they appealing to this Emperour were afterwards upon full hearing condemned by him and declared Hereticks Vpon which Appeale of theirs St. Augustine descants thus Is it peradventure not lawfull for the Emperour or those whom the Emperour shall send to give judgement in a matter of Religion Why then came your Embassadours to the Emperour why made they him the Iudge of their cause c. The Act of Marcellinus his sentence against the Donatists runs thus To the end that apparent errour may undergoe the yoke of revealed truth by the authority of this present Edict I advise all men of what condition soever Land-lords Stewards and Farmers as well which hold of the Crowne as of private possessions with the Ancients in all places that not forgetting the Lawes their owne dignity honour and safeguard they doe their endevour to hinder all Conventicles of the Donatists in all Townes whatsoever who shall bee bound to surrender up to the Catholikes those Churches which I allowed them of courtesie untill the day of sentence without Commission from the Emperour Photius Bishop of Smyrnae being accused for an Heretick by the Councell there was afterwards admitted to dispute with the Catholike Bishops in which dispute saith Sozomen certaine Iudges were ordained for Presidents of the Councell who from that time forwards were accounted men of prime ranke in the palace both for knowledg and dignity after many objections and answers pro and con Basil Bishop of Ancyra who defended the doctrine of the Catholikes got the victory and Photinus was condemned and sent into banishment Athanasius in his 2. Apologie requests that the Emperours most godly and religious Majesty might have the hearing of his own and his churches cause for we have good hopes that his godlinesse understanding our reasons will never condemne us If this seem strange to any Romanist that Lay-men should be competent Iudges in matters of Divinitie and have voices in Councels their owne Pope Nicholas his resolution in this very point may cease their wonder who saith in downe-right termes Faith is catholike and common to all as well to Lay-men as Priests yea generally to all Christians he speaks it expresly of Lay-mens assisting in Councels therefore it is just and reasonable they should have voices in matters of faith as well as Bishops and Clergy-men I shall close up this with the resolution of Marsilius of Padua who expresly resolves that Lay-men especially those who are pious and learned ought to be present in and summoned to generall Councels as well as Clergie-men especially when the Clergie are either ignorant corrupt or erronious in their judgements or scandalous in their lives His reasons are these First because they have all as great an interest in the faith and Churches good as any Prelates Popes or Clergie-men Secondly because many of them are better learned and versed in the Scriptures and Antiquities then many Bishops and Clergie-men yea more sound and orthodoxe in their judgments then they Thirdly because they were present and had voices in the Synod at Hierusalem even in the Apostles dayes Acts 15. and in the purest first generall Councels in which the Emperours with their Nobles and Officers assisted in the resolving of Scripture doubts Fourthly because the very Code of Isiodore for the manner of holding Councels hath this direction Deinde ingrediantur LAICI qui ELECTIONE CONCILII INTERESSE MERUERUNT Multò magis igitur qui fuerint literati in lege divina periti quanquam non sacerdotes existant sic enim fecerunt Apostoli cum Senioribus c. 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breach of Gods Laws with temporall punishments yet by this Gods Lawes become not temporall and unobligatory to the conscience So God on the other side may and doth 〈◊〉 the violation of just humane Lawes with spirituall and eternall punishments Majestrates being but his Vicegerents Deputies and the contempt of their just Lawes a contempt of God himselfe Therefore the Argument holds not The 5th Objection is this that the conscience only respects God therefore nothing can binde it but Gods owne Law which is spirituall I Answer That the conscience respects as well men as God Act. 24. 16 therefore the just Lawes of men as I have proved as well as of God 2ly The conscience looks upon the just Laws and precepts of men not meerly as human Lawes but as proceeding from the Ministers and Vicegerents of God himselfe whom they represent and whom God himselfe frequently enjoynes us to obey The 6th Is this No one man and by consequence not all mens consciences in the world may or can Iudge another mans conscience who standeth or falleth 〈◊〉 his owne Master Rom. 14. 4. 16. Ergo they cannot make Lawes to binde the conscience I Answer first that this text speakes only of privat Christians Judging one another in things indifferent as meates holy dayes c. when and where there is neither law of God nor man inhibiting the free use or refusall of them at the whole Chapter manifests Therefore it makes nothing against necessary ecclesiastical● Laws Canons obliging men to obedience even in point of conscience 2ly The Apostle expresly concludes in this very Chap. v. 14. to 23. That in case of giving scandal and offence to weak Brethren we ought to abstaine from the very use of lawful indifferent things even out of conscience of the scandall hurt don thereby not simply of the things themselves though there be no law of God or man restraining or altering the indifferency or lawfulnes thereof that without any impeachment of Christian liberty Therefore when necessary or convenient things meerly indifferent in their nature are enjoyned by Superiors just Laws or inconvenient indifferent things prohibited for the publick good or peace they ought much more to be submitted to without impeachment of christian liberty out of Conscience of the Law and scandall which would follow the volation thereof and in obedience to the generall Law of God which commands obedience to such Lawes The 7. Objection is this There is one Lawgiver which is able to save and to destroy to wit God● who art thou that judgest another Iam. 4. 12. Ergo none can make laws to bind the conscience but God I answer 1. that there is but one supream absolut Lawgiver which is God Is 33. 2. wch excluds not subordinat ones 2ly The Apostle saith not that there is ONLY one law-giver that can save and destroy neither will the words infallibly conclude there is but one such since humane law-givers can make Lawes to save or destroy the lives bodyes and Estates of men as appeares by Scripture and the Lawes of all Nations though not their Soules as they are meare humane Lawes but only collaterally as the wilful contempts and violations of them are sins breaches of the very law of God prescribing obedience to those Lawes in which sence they may secondarily destroy the very soules of men Thirdly This Text takes not away the power of making necessary temp●rall or Ecclesiasticall Laws for then no such Lawes could possibly be made by any But the meaning of the Apostle is this That onely God the Supreame Law-giver is able by his Law to make any indifferent lawfull thing necessary or unlawfull in it selfe in point of Religion or conscience and to change the meere indifferency of it into a thing simply good or evil and not humane Law-givers Therefore we should not judge or condemne one another in the use or neglect of those things which God himselfe hath left indifferent where there is no circumstance of scandall or contempt of humane Lawes to engage us to use or not to use them But it reacheth not to such humane Lawes Civill or Ecclesiasticall which command or prohibit things agreeable to the rules of Gods Word or things necessary and expedient for Order Decency Peace avoyding of scandall and other mischiefes which Lawes as Doctor Willet himselfe who makes this objection affirmes do binde the conscience notwithstanding this objected Text. And thus much for my Brothers first generall Objection His second is this That the Scripture holds forth and Christ in the New-Testament presoribes and layes down unto us but ONLY ONE and that a most compleat and exact forme of Church government and Discipline which ought not to be altered or varied from in the least title being a part of the Gospel and must be BUT ONE and THE SAME in all Nations Churches in all ages throughout the World precisely observed by all Churches without the least variation That the Independent way alone is this divine unalterable Evangelicall platforme Therefore nor King nor Parliament though assisted with a Synod of most pious and learned orthodox Divines justly may or can of right make any Ecclesiasticall binding Lawes for the government or Discipline of the Churches of Christ within their Jurisdictions it being indeed a meere adding to the Word of God prohibited under a curse Deut. 4. 2. c. 12. 22. Prov. 30. 6. Rev. 22. 18 19. Thus my deare Brother and other Independents Argue with more confidence than evidence of Scripture To which I answer first That though Christ and his Apostles have instituted in the Gospel all necessary Church-Officers as Evangelical Bishops Elders Ministers Deacons Pastors Teachers c. and likewise given some general rules for the Government and Discipline of his Church yet he hath neither instituted nor prescribed any such unalterable compleat exact forme of Church-government and Discipline in all ages and Churches in the New Testament as is pretended by many not evidenced by any My reasons are these First Because no such exact and punctuall platforme is or can be clearly demonstrated to us nor discovered by us in the Scripture upon most diligent scrutiny Quod non lego non credo hath alwayes been reputed a solid Argument in matters of Divinity and divine institutions The Apostle Heb. 7. 13. 14. argues thus negatively even in the point of Christs Priesthood because Moses spake nothing of the Tribe of Iudah concerning Priesthood And God himselfe argues thus Deut. 9. 12. 15. Ye saw no manner of similitude therefore ye shall make no likenesse or image of me I may safely argue negatively in like sort The Scripture speaks nothing of such an exact universall Platforme and we see no image or similitude of it in the Gospel Therefore there is no such Secondly Independents have been frequently pressed to shew us any such exactform of Church-government instituted and generally prescribed to all ages