Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	apostle_n	church_n	creed_n	2,605	5	10.2206	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15093	The way to the true church wherein the principall motiues perswading according to Romanisme and questions touching the nature and authoritie of the church and scriptures, are familiarly disputed, and driuen to their issues, where, this day they sticke betweene the Papists and vs: contriued into an answer to a popish discourse concerning the rule of faith and the marks of the church. And published to admonish such as decline to papistrie of the weake and vncertaine grounds, whereupon they haue ventured their soules. Directed to all that seeke for resolution: and especially to his louing countrimen of Lancashire. By Iohn White minister of Gods word at Eccles. For the finding out of the matter and questions handled, there are three tables: two in the beginning, and one in the end of the booke.	White, John, 1570-1615.	1608 (1608)	STC 25394; ESTC S101725	487,534	518

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84._o part_n 7._o &_o sent._n 4._o d._n 22._o q._n 2_o art_n 3._o ad_fw-la 3._o §._o ad_fw-la 3._o quaestion_n other_o think_v it_o be_v not_o ordain_v all_o at_o once_o but_o by_o part_n and_o at_o several_a time_n the_o which_o opinion_n victoria_n 10._o victoria_n relect._n 1._o sect_n 5._o n._n 10._o think_v the_o most_o probable_a for_o he_o say_v the_o doctor_n agree_v not_o touch_v the_o time_n when_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n there_o be_v no_o certainty_n but_o only_o that_o they_o have_v they_o all_o this_o exclude_v the_o 20._o of_o john_n 9_o by_o all_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o a_o uncertain_a device_n the_o sacrament_n of_o popish_a penance_n be_v who_o institution_n can_v be_v find_v and_o he_o may_v judge_v to_o what_o small_a purpose_n the_o jesuite_n allege_v scripture_n when_o his_o own_o side_n be_v so_o variable_a and_o uncertain_a touch_v the_o same_o and_o can_v agree_v upon_o no_o scripture_n in_o the_o present_a controversy_n that_o shall_v infallible_o decide_v it_o among_o themselves_o §_o 59_o or_o if_o it_o shall_v please_v god_n to_o send_v any_o one_o in_o a_o extraordinary_a manner_n it_o appertain_v to_o his_o providence_n to_o furnish_v he_o with_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n as_o he_o do_v our_o saviour_n christ_n or_o some_o such_o evident_a token_n that_o it_o may_v be_v plain_o know_v he_o be_v assure_o send_v of_o god_n otherwise_o the_o people_n shall_v not_o be_v bind_v to_o believe_v he_o but_o may_v without_o sin_n reject_v his_o doctrine_n and_o teach_n according_a as_o our_o saviour_n say_v of_o himself_o joh._n 10._o si_fw-mi non_fw-la facere_fw-la opera_fw-la patris_fw-la mei_fw-la nolite_fw-la credere_fw-la mihi_fw-la and_o joh._n 15._o si_fw-mi non_fw-la fecissem_fw-la opera_fw-la in_o eye_n quae_fw-la nemo_fw-la alius_fw-la fecit_fw-la peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la haberent_fw-la if_o i_o have_v not_o do_v work_n among_o they_o that_o no_o other_o have_v do_v they_o shall_v not_o have_v sin_v to_o 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23.1_o consider_v that_o also_o of_o saint_n paul_n gal._n 1._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la vobis_fw-la evangelizaverit_n praeter_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la accepistis_fw-la anathema_n sit_v let_v he_o be_v accurse_v so_o that_o since_o the_o people_n have_v receive_v from_o their_o ordinary_a pastor_n that_o doctrine_n which_o have_v descend_v by_o tradition_n from_o hand_n to_o hand_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n themselves_o according_a to_o that_o of_o saint_n austin_n lib._n 2._o contra_fw-la julian_n quod_fw-la invenerunt_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la tenuerunt_fw-la quod_fw-la didicerunt_fw-la docuerunt_fw-la quod_fw-la à_fw-la patribus_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la filijs_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la that_o which_o they_o find_v in_o the_o church_n they_o hold_v etc._n etc._n whosoever_o he_o be_v that_o shall_v euangelize_n any_o thing_n opposite_a to_o this_o whether_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o apostle_n or_o a_o angel_n and_o much_o more_o if_o he_o be_v another_o to_o wit_n one_o 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adjudge_v on_o their_o side_n optatus_n dispute_v against_o a_o donatist_n thus_o press_v he_o 5._o he_o cont._n parmen_fw-la lib_n 5._o we_o be_v say_v he_o to_o inquire_v out_o some_o to_o be_v judge_n between_o we_o in_o these_o controversy_n the_o christian_n can_v because_o both_o side_n can_v yield_v they_o and_o by_o part_n take_v the_o truth_n shall_v be_v hinder_v the_o judge_n must_v be_v have_v from_o without_o ourselves_o if_o a_o pagan_a he_o know_v not_o the_o mystery_n of_o christianity_n if_o a_o jew_n he_o be_v a_o enemy_n to_o baptism_n therefore_o upon_o the_o earth_n no_o judgement_n concern_v this_o matter_n can_v be_v find_v inquiratur_fw-la find_v de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la quaerendus_fw-la est_fw-la iudex_fw-la et_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o tumulo_fw-la quiescit_fw-la tacitis_fw-la de_fw-la tabulis_fw-la loquor_fw-la viws_fw-la voluntas_fw-la eius_fw-la velut_fw-la in_o testamento_fw-la sic_fw-la in_o euangelio_fw-la inquiratur_fw-la the_o judge_n must_v be_v have_v from_o heaven_n but_o to_o what_o end_n shall_v we_o knock_v at_o heaven_n when_o here_o we_o have_v one_o in_o the_o gospel_n hermog_n gospel_n contra_fw-la hermog_n tertullian_n call_v the_o scripture_n the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o cor._n and_o hom._n 13._o in_o 2._o cor._n chrysostome_n a_o most_o exquisite_a rule_n and_o exact_a squire_n and_o balance_n to_o try_v all_o thing_n by_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o orat._n de_fw-fr iis_fw-la qui_fw-la adeunt_fw-la hicrosol_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gregory_n nyssen_n a_o strait_n and_o inflexible_a rule_n austin_n 4._o austin_n de_fw-fr bono_fw-mi viduit_fw-la c._n 1._o tom_n 4._o say_v the_o scripture_n pitch_v down_o the_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o again_o he_o 33._o he_o de._n nupt._n &_o concup_n ad_fw-la valeria_n l_o 2._o c._n 33._o say_v this_o controversy_n depend_v between_o we_o require_v a_o judge_n let_v christ_n therefore_o judge_v and_o let_v the_o apostle_n paul_n judge_v with_o he_o because_o christ_n also_o speak_v in_o 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