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dubio_fw-la procul_fw-la consilium_fw-la agnosceret_fw-la non_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la ad_fw-la tollenda_fw-la schismata_fw-la sicuti_fw-la praetexebatur_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsius_fw-la satanae_n ad_fw-la vastanda_fw-la &_o perdenda_fw-la prisca_fw-la pascendi_fw-la dominici_n gregis_fw-la ministeria_fw-la quo_fw-la fieret_fw-la ut_fw-la haberet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la veros_fw-la pastor_n doctores_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o episcopos_fw-la sed_fw-la sub_fw-la â—ominum_fw-la istorum_fw-la larvis_fw-la ociâ—sos_fw-la ventres_fw-la ac_fw-la magnificos_fw-la principes_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la non_fw-la pascant_fw-la ipsi_fw-la populum_fw-la domini_fw-la doctrina_fw-la sana_fw-la &_o apostolica_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o improbissima_fw-la violentia_fw-la caveant_fw-la ne_fw-la id_fw-la per_fw-la quenquam_fw-la â—lium_fw-la fiat_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o be_o far_o from_o apply_v this_o to_o all_o our_o bishop_n no_o very_o this_o learned_a davenant_n hall_n brownrig_v i_o 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