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A79512 Preaching vvithout ordination or, A treatise proving the lawfulnesse of all persons, of what degree, ranke, or trade soever, being inabled with sufficient guifts and qualifications from God by his spirit, to preach and set forth the Gospel, though no minister nor any other officer in the church of God. By Edmond Chillinden. Chillenden, Edmund, fl. 1656. 1647 (1647) Wing C3879; Thomason E405_10; ESTC R201879 25,344 34

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