Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A84133	The Anabaptists ground-work for reformation: or, New planting of churches, that no man, woman, nor child, may be baptized, but such as have justifying faith, and doe make profession thereof, before, to the baptizer, found false, with all things depending thereon. As being contrary to the Scriptures, and to the examples of Christ and his Apostles, ... Proved by severall arguments. Whereunto one T.L. a principall baptizer, (and apostle in their account) hath given his answers. Unto which answers, replies are also made by I.E. and some arguments annexed, proving, that the children of all such beleevers as were baptized, and so received into the Church, might be baptized, and received also. With a brief declaration what the true reformation is, and shal be, farre above these Anabaptists, and all such carnall builders conceits. And who the two witnesses of God are, by whom chiefly it is to be performed. Imprimatut [sic]. Iames Cranford,	Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.; Lamb, Thomas, d. 1686.	1644 (1644)	Wing E3381; Thomason E50_2; ESTC R23515	28,610	37

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invent_v a_o kind_n of_o argument_n against_o the_o evangelist_n luke_n from_o the_o apostle_n peter_n word_n to_o simon_n magus_n write_v down_o by_o luke_n thou_o be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n etc._n etc._n say_v as_o the_o state_n of_o be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n and_o bond_n of_o iniquity_n do_v not_o present_a a_o person_n a_o fit_a subject_n for_o baptism_n in_o luks_n esteem_n no_o more_o do_v such_o a_o faith_n as_o do_v not_o distinguish_v a_o person_n from_o such_o a_o one_o and_o hereupon_o wicked_o but_o cunning_o conclude_v that_o luke_n do_v no_o more_o esteem_v the_o faith_n that_o simon_n magus_n have_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o philip_n and_o his_o see_v the_o miracle_n that_o he_o do_v