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A47399 [The ax laid to the root, or, One blow more at the foundation of infant baptism and church-membership containing an exposition of that metaphorical text of Holy Scripture, Mat. 3, 10]. Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1693 (1693) Wing K48_pt2; ESTC R20690 57,342 56

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the_o counsel_n of_o god_n against_o themselves_o in_o not_o partake_v of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n yet_o their_o bare_a rejection_n of_o that_o be_v not_o so_o much_o their_o sin_n and_o gild_n as_o their_o not_o believe_v repent_v or_o embrace_v of_o jesus_n christ_n or_o obtain_v those_o previous_a and_o antecedent_n qualification_n require_v of_o all_o such_o who_o ought_v to_o come_v to_o that_o sacred_a ordinance_n obj._n it_o be_v say_v the_o people_n ask_v he_o what_o shall_v we_o do_v and_o whether_o be_v it_o some_o for_o all_o or_o every_o individual_a who_o can_v tell_v and_o if_o the_o adult_n do_v speak_v and_o the_o child_n can_v not_o be_v not_o the_o parent_n to_o take_v care_n that_o they_o may_v have_v the_o mean_n to_o fly_v from_o wrath_n to_o come_v as_o well_o as_o themselves_o and_o to_o be_v teach_v to_o take_v god_n way_n as_o well_o as_o themselves_o it_o be_v after_o baptism_n and_o be_v there_o any_o question_n to_o be_v make_v but_o 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conclude_v the_o external_n rite_n of_o baptism_n o●_n a_o bare_a subjection_n to_o that_o ordinance_n be_v the_o very_a mean_n to_o escape_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o eternal_a burn_v in_o hell_n and_o not_o only_o for_o infant_n but_o the_o adult_n likewise_o whereas_o i_o find_v no_o sound_n and_o understanding_n protestant_n of_o his_o judgement_n nor_o do_v he_o produce_v either_o scripture_n or_o solid_a reason_n for_o what_o he_o assert_n can_v he_o prove_v that_o to_o baptize_v childre●_n or_o the_o adult_n will_v save_v their_o soul_n from_o god_n wrath_n or_o hell-fire_n ce●●tainly_o all_o will_v be_v notorious_a monster_n that_o will_v not_o endeavour_v to_o pe●●swade_v all_o heathen_n turk_n and_o pagan_n in_o the_o world_n to_o be_v baptize_v or_o n●●_n take_v care_n to_o baptize_v their_o infant_n but_o alas_o we_o know_v that_o for_o 〈◊〉_d person_n to_o be_v baptize_v who_o be_v not_o regenerate_v it_o will_v avail_v he_o nothing_o 〈◊〉_d no_o more_o than_o simon_n magus_n his_o baptism_n do_v he_o it_o be_v not_o circumcision_n au●●●ed_v nor_o uncircumcision_n but_o a_o new_a creature_n answ._n 2._o but_o before_o he_o have_v go_v so_o far_o as_o to_o assert_v the_o great_a profit_n of_o i●●fant-baptism_n and_o the_o dreadful_a danger_n and_o sin_n of_o parent_n in_o not_o baptiz●●_n they_o he_o shall_v have_v prove_v that_o god_n do_v enjoin_v or_o command_v 〈◊〉_d thing_n of_o parent_n viz._n to_o see_v their_o child_n baptize_v for_o where_o there_o 〈◊〉_d law_n there_o be_v no_o trransgression_n another_o man_n may_v argue_v that_o the_o ordinace_n of_o the_o sacred_a supper_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v a_o mean_n or_o way_n for_o our_o child_n to_o escape_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o so_o charge_v parent_n to_o bring_v they_o to_o that_o sacrament_n as_o well_o as_o to_o that_o of_o baptism_n sir_n the_o fault_n and_o sin_n of_o parent_n lie_v not_o where_o you_o place_v it_o but_o in_o that_o when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o they_o neglect_v to_o teach_v they_o their_o duty_n of_o look_v out_o for_o a_o change_a heart_n or_o to_o get_v faith_n and_o repentance_n or_o to_o obtain_v a_o interest_n in_o jesus_n christ_n for_o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n to_o escape_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n for_o ourselves_o nor_o our_o child_n when_o grow_v up_o but_o by_o christ_n alone_o as_o he_o be_v receive_v through_o faith_n and_o whosoever_o do_v not_o so_o take_v care_n of_o their_o child_n soul_n be_v great_o guilty_a before_o god_n but_o to_o baptize_v they_o since_o there_o be_v no_o warrant_n for_o it_o no_o command_n from_o god_n no_o precedent_n or_o example_n in_o all_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n that_o will_v but_o bring_v great_a gild_n upon_o their_o own_o head_n add_v thou_o not_o to_o his_o word_n lest_o he_o prove_v thou_o and_o thou_o be_v find_v a_o liar_n answ._n 3._o you_o abuse_v that_o holy_a text_n mal._n 4.6_o luke_n 1.17_o john_n have_v no_o infant_n in_o his_o commission_n though_o he_o be_v to_o turn_v 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there_o be_v no_o true_a conversion_n wrought_v by_o the_o preach_a of_o john_n baptist_n nor_o by_o christ_n himself_o or_o his_o apostle_n until_o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v give_v which_o be_v not_o till_o after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o assension_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n he_o that_o will_v heed_n such_o a_o writer_n let_v he_o for_o by_o this_o argument_n the_o holy_a apostle_n be_v not_o true_a penitent_n until_o they_o be_v baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o yet_o do_v not_o christ_n tell_v they_o they_o be_v clean_o though_o not_o all_o joh._n 13.10_o and_o that_o they_o who_o then_o believe_v in_o he_o have_v everlasting_a life_n joh._n 5._o according_a to_o this_o man_n notion_n christ_n have_v no_o disciple_n indeed_o or_o no_o true_a penitent_n and_o sincere_a disciple_n until_o after_o his_o ascension_n answ._n 2._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o re●ferr_v to_o the_o save_a grace_n 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people_n amen_n finis_fw-la finis_fw-la i_o be_o force_v to_o repeat_v this_o answer_n again_o also_o you_o have_v be_v at_o large_a in_o rector_n rectify_v in_o answer_n to_o mr._n burket_n pag._n 108_o 109_o 110._o