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the_o lord_n prayer_n and_o i_o shall_v think_v it_o be_v till_o they_o show_v a_o better_a but_o they_o object_n many_o place_n of_o scripture_n against_o infant-baptism_n even_o all_o those_o that_o require_v the_o minister_n to_o teach_v and_o baptise_v mat._n 28.19_o and_o the_o people_n to_o believe_v and_o be_v baptise_a mar._n 16.16_o and_o to_o repent_v and_o be_v baptise_a act_v 2.38_o and_o with_o these_o they_o stagger_v ignorant_a and_o unstable_a soul_n and_o sometime_o gain_v they_o to_o their_o party_n m._n what_o you_o say_v be_v very_o true_a but_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n any_o one_o shall_v be_v stagger_v with_o these_o text_n for_o they_o all_o have_v respect_n to_o grow_v person_n that_o be_v then_o believer_n or_o shall_v become_v and_o do_v not_o at_o all_o concern_v their_o child_n p._n but_o how_o do_v you_o prove_v that_o child_n be_v not_o exclude_v from_o baptism_n by_o these_o text_n m._n from_o one_o of_o they_o that_o of_o mar._n 16.16_o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptise_a shall_v be_v save_v but_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v where_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v be_v acknowledge_v by_o our_o opposer_n in_o this_o point_n to_o be_v restrain_v to_o grow_v person_n only_o and_o that_o child_n be_v not_o intend_v by_o it_o who_o they_o will_v neither_o allow_v to_o have_v faith_n nor_o yet_o to_o be_v damn_a for_o want_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptise_a in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o verse_n must_v be_v so_o restrain_v too_o and_o understand_v of_o grow_v person_n and_o not_o of_o child_n and_o so_o child_n be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v keep_v from_o baptism_n than_o from_o heaven_n for_o want_v of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o when_o they_o object_v such_o scripture_n as_o these_o to_o you_o answer_v they_o with_o some_o other_o as_o heb._n 5.9_o christ_n become_v the_o author_n of_o salvation_n to_o all_o they_o that_o obey_v he_o luke_n 13.5_o except_o you_o repent_v you_o shall_v all_o likewise_o perish_v and_o the_o place_n just_a before_o quote_v he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v and_o heb._n 11.6_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n and_o rev._n 21.8_o but_o the_o fearful_a and_o unbelieving_a and_o the_o abominable_a and_o murderer_n and_o whoremonger_n etc._n etc._n shall_v have_v their_o part_n in_o the_o lake_n that_o burn_v with_o fire_n and_o brimstone_n which_o be_v the_o second_o death_n and_o tell_v they_o it_o be_v as_o plain_a from_o these_o text_n that_o child_n can_v be_v save_v without_o faith_n as_o from_o the_o other_o scripture_n that_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptise_a without_o it_o and_o tell_v they_o too_o though_o baptism_n be_v but_o one_o there_o be_v a_o twofold_a way_n of_o apply_v it_o 1._o through_o confession_n of_o faith_n to_o such_o grow_a person_n as_o be_v capable_a of_o make_v it_o and_o so_o the_o object_v scripture_n mean_v it_o 2._o without_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n in_o they_o who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o make_v it_o be_v baptism_n apply_v to_o believer_n child_n and_o it_o be_v absurd_a in_o any_o one_o to_o urge_v that_o against_o child_n to_o shut_v they_o out_o from_o baptism_n which_o only_o concern_v men._n p._n this_o kind_n of_o reason_v i_o believe_v will_v be_v too_o hard_a for_o they_o but_o it_o will_v leave_v they_o without_o excuse_n if_o you_o can_v produce_v a_o plain_a text_n or_o two_o for_o infant-baptism_n m._n i_o think_v they_o be_v leave_v without_o excuse_n in_o what_o have_v be_v already_o urge_v and_o if_o i_o can_v yet_o produce_v plain_a text_n they_o will_v do_v but_o little_a good_a upon_o they_o p._n you_o know_v not_o but_o through_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n they_o may_v and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v any_o more_o pray_v let_v i_o hear_v they_o m._n why_o then_o urge_v those_o two_o place_n wherein_o believer_n child_n be_v call_v disciple_n and_o believer_n as_o act_n 15.10_o now_o therefore_o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n to_o put_v a_o yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n which_o neither_o our_o father_n nor_o we_o be_v able_a to_o bear_v which_o be_v the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o be_v chief_o bear_v by_o child_n who_o be_v to_o undergo_v it_o at_o eight_o day_n old_a and_o mat._n 18.6_o but_o whoso_o shall_v offend_v one_o of_o those_o little_a one_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o it_o be_v better_a that_o a_o millstone_n be_v hang_v about_o his_o neck_n and_o he_o drown_v in_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o sea_n where_o by_o little_a one_o christ_n mean_v little_a child_n as_o be_v plain_a from_o the_o four_o precede_a verse_n in_o every_o one_o of_o which_o he_o express_v little_a child_n or_o the_o little_a child_n he_o have_v set_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o his_o disciple_n p._n but_o what_o say_v you_o to_o their_o evasion_n to_o these_o text_n to_o act_n 15.10_o 89._o 15.10_o mr._n k._n gold_n refine_v p._n 89._o they_o 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p._n this_o be_v close_o reason_v but_o these_o 32._o these_o mr._n blackwood_n storm_v of_o antichrist_n p._n 32._o man_n object_n here_o that_o circumcision_n be_v no_o seal_n of_o faith_n to_o the_o jew_n because_o it_o be_v administer_v to_o the_o reprobate_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o elect_n esau_n and_o ishmael_n be_v circumcise_a who_o they_o look_v on_o to_o be_v final_o reject_v as_o well_o as_o isaac_n and_o jacob_n who_o be_v effectual_o call_v m._n to_o this_o i_o answer_v 1._o i_o may_v as_o well_o argue_v that_o baptism_n be_v no_o seal_n of_o grace_n because_o it_o be_v administer_v to_o simon_n magus_n who_o final_a condition_n the_o scripture_n set_v forth_o to_o be_v as_o dangerous_a at_o least_o as_o ishmael_n or_o esau_n st._n peter_n say_v of_o he_o that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n and_o bond_n of_o iniquity_n and_o leave_v it_o mighty_a doubtful_a whether_o he_o be_v ever_o forgive_v or_o no_o act_v 8.22_o 59_o ibid._n page_n 58_o 59_o 23._o and_o yet_o the_o objector_n himself_o allow_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o sign_n or_o seal_n of_o grace_n already_o wrought_v and_o of_o grace_n far_o to_o be_v wrought_v and_o so_o he_o confute_v himself_o with_o his_o own_o answer_n and_o in_o effect_n own_v that_o circumcision_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n may_v be_v a_o seal_n of_o grace_n notwithstanding_o its_o be_v administer_v to_o such_o bad_a man_n as_o esau_n ishmael_n and_o simon_n magus_n 2._o how_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o esau_n and_o ishmael_n never_o have_v faith_n they_o may_v have_v it_o and_o fall_v from_o it_o unless_o they_o can_v prove_v this_o to_o be_v impossible_a 3._o how_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o esau_n and_o ishmael_n be_v reprobate_n and_o final_o reject_v as_o to_o the_o latter_a though_o he_o have_v not_o the_o birthright_n and_o priesthood_n which_o belong_v to_o it_o yet_o abraham_n pray_v for_o he_o no_o doubt_n for_o his_o eternal_a as_o well_o as_o temporal_a welfare_n gen._n 17.18_o o_o that_o ishmael_n may_v live_v before_o thou_o and_o god_n answer_v his_o prayer_n ver_fw-la 20._o as_o for_o ishmael_n i_o have_v hear_v thou_o and_o as_o to_o the_o former_a though_o esau_n be_v call_v profane_a yet_o that_o be_v for_o undervalue_v his_o birthright_n to_o which_o the_o priesthood_n be_v annex_v as_o be_v evident_a from_o heb._n 12.16_o if_o it_o be_v say_v he_o find_v no_o place_n of_o repentance_n that_o be_v of_o his_o father_n isaac_n repentance_n in_o change_v his_o mind_n and_o recall_v the_o blessing_n he_o have_v first_o give_v jacob_n esau_n find_v no_o place_n of_o such_o repentance_n in_o his_o father_n though_o he_o may_v of_o his_o own_o repentance_n for_o he_o may_v repent_v and_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o this_o place_n to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a it_o have_v respect_n only_o to_o his_o father_n isaac_n blessing_n as_o the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o verse_n do_v plain_o show_v for_o you_o know_v that_o afterward_o when_o he_o will_v have_v inherit_v the_o blessing_n he_o be_v reject_v but_o by_o who_o be_v this_o by_o his_o father_n isaac_n gen._n 27.33_o i_o have_v bless_v he_o i._n e._n jacob_n yea_o and_o he_o shall_v be_v bless_v upon_o which_o esau_n cry_v with_o a_o exceed_a great_a and_o bitter_a cry_n ver._n 34._o but_o to_o no_o purpose_n he_o can_v not_o alter_v his_o father_n mind_n and_o so_o he_o find_v no_o place_n for_o isaac_n repentance_n though_o he_o seek_v it_o careful_o with_o tear_n and_o for_o that_o other_o place_n of_o st._n paul_n rom._n 9.13_o jacob_n have_v i_o love_v but_o esau_n have_v i_o hate_v it_o may_v be_v understand_v 1._o comparative_o that_o god_n love_v the_o one_o less_o than_o the_o other_o a_o lesser_a degree_n of_o love_n be_v in_o scripture_n call_v hatred_n as_o luke_n 14.26_o if_o any_o man_n come_v unto_o i_o and_o hate_v not_o his_o father_n and_o mother_n and_o wife_n and_o child_n and_o brethrn_v and_o sister_n yea_o and_o his_o own_o life_n he_o can_v be_v my_o disciple_n all_o which_o 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