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A92287 The reasons of the Dissenting Brethren against the third proposition, concerning presbyterial government· Humbly presented. Westminster Assembly; Goodwin, Thomas, 1600-1680.; Westminster Assembly (1643-1652). Answer of the Assembly of Divines unto the reasons of the seven Dissenting Brethren, against the proposition of divers congregations being united under one Presbyteriall government. 1645 (1645) Wing R573; Thomason E27_14; ESTC R209981 37,798 45

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neither_o be_v there_o any_o act_n of_o government_n put_v forth_o over_o their_o own_o church_n if_o suppose_v many_o reason_n against_o the_o allege_v act._n 15._o for_o the_o meeting_n of_o the_o elder_n of_o jerusalem_n for_o presbyterial_a act_n of_o government_n 1._o if_o it_o be_v a_o meeting_n of_o elder_n for_o act_n of_o government_n than_o it_o be_v a_o presbyterial_a meeting_n for_o act_n of_o government_n but_o that_o it_o be_v no_o such_o meeting_n appear_v because_o there_o be_v nothing_o do_v in_o it_o that_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v any_o bond_n in_o it_o but_o such_o as_o bound_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n syria_n cilicia_n as_o much_o as_o jerusalem_n but_o this_o can_v be_v in_o any_o presbyterial_a meeting_n for_o act_n of_o government_n for_o such_o meeting_n have_v only_o authoritative_a power_n over_o their_o own_o church_n 2._o the_o scope_n and_o end_n of_o this_o meeting_n be_v to_o give_v satisfaction_n to_o the_o offend_a brethren_n of_o antioch_n and_o 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honourable_a house_n of_o commons_o be_v to_o all_o parliamentary_a purpose_n as_o much_o a_o house_n when_o but_o two_o or_o three_o above_o forty_o as_o when_o four_o hundred_o nor_o do_v this_o always_o fall_v out_o that_o all_o classical_a presbytery_n have_v a_o great_a number_n than_o some_o parochial_a scripture_n have_v determine_v neither_o how_o few_o will_v constitute_v a_o classical_a presbytery_n nor_o how_o many_o may_v be_v in_o a_o parochial_a practice_v many_o time_n make_v they_o equal_a sect._n 6._o second_o now_o for_o the_o formale_fw-la the_o unite_n of_o this_o matter_n into_o a_o consessus_fw-la or_o caetus_fw-la presbyter_n become_v unite_v into_o a_o presbytery_n in_o the_o classical_a by_o have_v pastoral_a charge_n in_o such_o a_o division_n whosoever_o come_v so_o to_o be_v dispose_v of_o he_o be_v no_o soon_o pastor_n to_o such_o a_o parish_n but_o he_o be_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la member_n of_o such_o a_o classis_fw-la the_o presbyter_n of_o a_o parochial_a presbytery_n be_v as_o near_o unite_v and_o more_o they_o be_v unite_v in_o the_o choice_n and_o call_v of_o the_o same_o congregation_n they_o govern_v and_o unite_v in_o the_o whole_a work_n of_o the_o ministry_n over_o the_o same_o people_n so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o only_o fellow_n governor_n but_o fellow_n labourer_n in_o the_o same_o vineyard_n there_o be_v therefore_o no_o just_a ground_n for_o such_o a_o distinction_n or_o difference_n between_o presbytery_n and_o presbytery_n in_o respect_n either_o of_o the_o matter_n or_o the_o form_n sect._n 7._o three_o nor_o three_o do_v we_o find_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o scripture_n make_v they_o as_o from_o different_a employment_n or_o function_n to_o differ_v first_o we_o pretend_v and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o proposition_n the_o one_o be_v superior_a the_o other_o inferior_a but_o how_o can_v you_o say_v the_o scripture_n have_v make_v this_o difference_n when_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n speak_v this_o way_n in_o any_o place_n presbyterian_a writer_n themselves_o in_o some_o expression_n seem_v to_o take_v away_o utter_o such_o difference_n as_o this_o in_o one_o place_n you_o shall_v read_v the_o classis_fw-la can_v do_v nothing_o renitente_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la but_o it_o be_v null_a and_o invalid_a thus_o the_o assertion_n for_o discipline_n and_o avouch_v zepperus_n zanchy_n and_o other_o as_o of_o this_o opinion_n the_o congregation_n though_o but_o minima_fw-la ecclesiola_n yet_o may_v reform_v that_o be_v suspend_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n renitentibus_fw-la correspondentiis_fw-la so_o voetius_fw-la in_o his_o thesis_n and_o desperata_fw-la causa_fw-la papatus_fw-la lib._n 2._o sect._n 2._o c._n 12._o sure_o according_a to_o what_o these_o reverend_a divine_n have_v express_v it_o be_v hard_a to_o be_v say_v which_o of_o these_o presbytery_n have_v the_o great_a or_o superior_a power_n sect._n 8._o second_o the_o employment_n or_o work_n of_o a_o presbytery_n be_v to_o ordain_v excommunicate_a suspend_v admit_v member_n appoint_v time_n for_o worship_n and_o the_o like_a the_o classical_a presbytery_n reserve_v ordination_n and_o excommunication_n to_o themselves_o but_o the_o other_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o parochial_a presbytery_n thus_o some_o presbyterian_n divide_v the_o work_n other_o possible_o otherwise_o but_o how_o can_v we_o affirm_v any_o such_o designment_n from_o the_o scripture_n if_o you_o have_v not_o two_o sort_n either_o in_o name_n or_o nature_n to_o be_v find_v there_o and_o none_o of_o these_o act_n or_o administration_n but_o may_v be_v do_v by_o that_o one_o the_o scripture_n mention_v which_o doubtless_o they_o may_v see_v ordination_n seem_v to_o be_v specify_v in_o the_o text_n if_o the_o great_a then_o doubtless_o the_o lesser_a the_o pastor_n in_o one_o place_n be_v say_v to_o exhort_v in_o another_o to_o comfort_v in_o another_o to_o visit_v the_o sick_a this_o will_v not_o warrant_v distinct_a sort_n of_o pastor_n for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o sort_n speak_v of_o in_o scripture_n we_o must_v interpret_v all_o these_o several_a administration_n to_o belong_v to_o that_o one_o sect._n 9_o it_o be_v not_o find_v a_o easy_a work_n in_o this_o assembly_n to_o find_v two_o sort_n of_o elder_n teach_v and_o rule_v notwithstanding_o all_o the_o scripture_n have_v say_v of_o these_o and_o in_o some_o place_n so_o plain_a as_o if_o of_o purpose_n to_o distinguish_v they_o if_o it_o be_v so_o hard_a a_o matter_n by_o scripture_n light_a to_o hold_v forth_o two_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v more_o difficult_a to_o find_v out_o two_o sort_n of_o presbytery_n especial_o see_v as_o it_o be_v general_o grant_v and_o this_o by_o the_o presbyterian_n themselves_o that_o for_o above_o fifty_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v but_o one_o kind_n of_o presbytery_n sect._n 10._o it_o have_v be_v the_o wisdom_n of_o state_n to_o keep_v and_o preserve_v the_o bound_n and_o 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