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A15510 A direction to be observed by N.N. if hee meane to proceede in answering the booke intituled Mercy and truth, or charity maintained by Catholiks &c. Knott, Edward, 1582-1656. 1636 (1636) STC 25777; ESTC S101801 13,980 42

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A DIRECTION TO BE OBSERVED By N. N. If hee meane to proceede in Answering the Booke intituled Mercy and Truth or Charity Maintained by Catholiks c. For I say by the grace that is giuen me to all that are among you not to be more wise then behoueth to be wise but to be wise vnto sobrietie Ad Roman 12. v. 3. When we treate of religion that is of the worship and knowledge of God they are least to be followed who promising most liberally proofes by reason forbid vs to belieue S. Aug. De vtil Cred. cap. 12. Permissu Superiorum 1636. A DIRECTION TO BE OBSERVED By N. N. If he meane to proceede in Answering the Booke intituled Mercy and Truth or Charity Maintained by Catholiks c. IN regard that hee who pretends to be answering the Booke intituled Mercy and Truth or Charity Maintained by Catholicks c. Is strongly reported to be a Socinian before I giue him his charge it will be requisite to open in brief what kinde of people they be who haue appeared of late vnder the name of Socinians For by this meanes it will be seene whether his true intention be to defend Protestantisme or couertly to vent Socinianisme It will also appeare whether all his paines be taken to any purpose For Charity Maintained hauing been written against Protestants not intermedling with the Doctrine of Socinians he will neuer by thought to speake one word to the purpose against that Booke if he answer out of Principles which Protestants themselues will professe to detest no lesse then Catholicks doe CHAP. I. Of Socinianisme SOcinians take their name from one Fanstus Socinus an Italian Apostata that is vpon the matter an Atheist For they are strangers to that wise and gallant Nation who imagine they can by of any Religion if they will not be Catholicks The maine and capitall doctrine of perfect Socinians is rather Negatiue and destructiue of all Faith and Religion then positiue or Affirnsatiue of any one The Summe of all is this Nothing ought or can be certainly belieued further then it may be proued by euidence of naturall reason into which they resolue all Christian (a) Irenaeus Philalethes lib. cui titulus Disquisitio breuis c. S. Aug. Do vtil Cred. cap. 1. Nostī enim Honorate non aliam ob causam nos in tales homines Manichaeos incidisse nisi quod se dicebant terribili authoritate separata mira ac simplici ratione cos qui se audire vellent introducturos ad Deum errore omni liberaturos Faith Out of this vniuersall ground they doe and must if they will speake as they thinke and thinke according to their owne principles reiect all infallible supernaturall infused Faith which they reduce to meere humane knowledge or opinion And this the Answerer as I am told professes and endeauours to proue They must then affirme that Faith is not donum Dei an especiall gift of God but only the common light of Reason or habits acquired by a mans owne abilitie and industrie Diuine Faith being excluded the other two Theologicall infused vertues Hope and Charitie cannot subsiste All infused Reuelations and Prophecies all Illuminations and Inspirations of the Holy Ghost all preuenient concomitant subsequent and in a word all kind of whatsoeuer supernaturall Grace is derided by this gracelesse Sect. And as they denie all supernaturall Faith so doe they laugh at the beliefe of all obiects that are beyond the sphere of naturall discourse And therfore they vtterly denie (b) Ioan. Volkelius de vera Religione lib. 5. c. 9.10.11.12.13 the most Blessed Trinity the Incarnation of the Sonne of God the Godhead of our deare Sauiour Christ his satisfaction for the sinnes of men and his (c) Idem ibid. c. 20.22 merit and to proue this they bring the same arguments which Protestants were wont to vrge against the merits of iust men and works of supererogation the Diuinitie of the (d) Id. vbi supra cap. 14. Holy Ghost and Originall (e) Id. ibid cap. 15. sinne Eternall supernaturall Felicitie in Heauen for the Iust and endlesse punishment in Hell for the wicked they all must according to their Principles some of them doe roundly denie And they cannot place their last Happines in any thing except some such poore imaginarie good as old Pagan Philosophers dreamed of but could neuer attaine nor so much as agree among themselues wherin it consisted They denie the Resurrection of our Bodies and teach that our Soule is to be ioyned with a Celestiall or spirituall substance of a nature essentially different from these our earthlie bodies and that our Blessed Sauiour in Heauen hath such a Celestiall (f) Volkel l. 3. c. 35. Bodie That the world was created in time by the free decree of God not from Eternitie by a necssarie emanation from him they belieue no more then can be proued by euidence of naturall demonstration And I know some of them hold directly against holie Scripture that it was from all eternitie by such a necessarie resultancie as that They make small reckoning of Sacraments as being according to them neither signes nor seales nor causes of of grace which grace they hold to be a meere fiction Yea they teach that it is an abuse of the word Sacrament to apply it to (g) Volkel l. 4. cap. 22. holy rites And as for the Eucharist in particular one of their ring leaders teacheth that it is no (h) Ibid. Sacrament that for the matter thereof if one cannot drinke wine hee may vse (i) Ibid. water without changing the substance of the Lord's Supper as he speakes and that it may be administred by Lay (k) Ibid. Persons and receaued euen by such as are not (l) Lib. 6. cap. 14. Baptized The same prime Socinian denies Baptisme to be a Sacrament and teacheth that all are not obliged to receaue it but that some may be enrolled amongst the number of Christians without it that the Church may either leaue it off or at least can compell none to receaue it and in a word that it is a a thing but adiaphorous or indifferent with other wicked (m) Vide Volkel lib. cap. 6. c. 14. per. totum absurdities which I let passe Concerning holie Scripture to such persons as they hold not fit to be intirely trusted by them they will acknowledge them all before other more confident friends they reiect diuers parts of holy Scripture receaued euen in the Protestant Church of England and with men who are fully acquainted with their Principles they must hold not any one Book Chapter or line of the whole Old and New Testament to be the word of God or written by the infallible assistance inspiration and direction of his holy Spirit For naturall reason which with them is the sole Rule of Faith Iudge of all Controuersies cannot possibly demonstrate these things They may belieue by a kind of Humane Faith that
fearfull names of Priests and Altars Nay if one doe but mutter against the placing of the Altar after the old fashion for a warning he shall be well warmed by (b) A little Treatise so intituled printed An. 1636. a Coale from the Altar English Protestants are now put in (c) Sunday no Sabbath A Sermon printed An. 1636. pag. 38. minde that for exposition of Scripture by (d) Lib. Can. An. 1571. Can. 19. Canon they are bound to follow the ancient Fathers which if they doe with sinceritie euery learned Protestant Diuine who makes a conscience to belie his owne knowledge can tell what doome will passe against Protestancie euen by confession of Protestants themselues as the Answerer once anouched as shall appeare hereafter Chap. 5. n. 6. and this being only a matter of fact and requiring no more then reading and vnderstanding the toungs wherein the Fathers wrote or the Translations of their Works he cannot in morall honestie and therefore I hope will not gainsay his own words nor can be thought to speake sincerely if hee should forcedly now retract what then he freely wrote And I know that to some Protestants hee so cleerely demonstrated the Fathers to bee on our side that they remained conuineed and haue vpon occasion acknowledged no lesse But let vs goe on The foure prime Protestant Church-Chroniclers who pretend to deduce a succession of the true Church the Centurists I meane are without ceremonle demanded in a particular occasion with what face dare they vente such vntruths and with what conscience dare they (e) Sunday no Sabbath pag. 12. forge c. their bad carriage towards the ancient Fathers is displayd and for a generall Censure they are told that Their credit is eclipsed and their testimonie abated by their (f) Ibid. pag. 10. doings And to conclude all in one maine point The Protestant Church in England willingly professeth so small Antiquitie and so weake subsistance in it selfe that they acknowledge no other visible being for many Ages but in the Church of Rome Which position drawne from them by meere necessitie must force them to yeeld that the Roman Church doth not erre in any point necessarie to Saluation vnlesse they haue a minde to bee telling the world that in their owne Church for many Ages none could be saued They must therefore bee still content to heare vs tell them againe and againe this most necessary truth You cannot bee saued vnlesse you belieue that wee in our Church are capable of saluation but wee neither doe nor can yeelde that Protestancie is compatible with eternall happinesse For to allow saluation for men disagreeing in Faith Religion and Communion is one of the greatest absurdities in Turoisme or Socinianisme and is but disguised Atheisme Wee then are safe by your owne confession but you cannot bee so without repentance and reunion to our Church Besides if our Church enioyed all things necessary to Saluation how can Protestants bee excused from the grieuous sinne of formall Schisme who separated from that Church for points confessedly not necessary to saluation Yea how are they not guilty of Schisme who forsooke that Church which before Luther was only true Church if our Sauiour Christ had any visible Church vpon earth And what heighth of dangerous madnes is it to leaue a Church which cannot erre in points necessarie to Saluation and ioyne in beliefe and Communion with priuate persons who may deceaue and be deceaued euen in fundamentall articles of Faith And I would gladly know with what visible Church existing before Luther did hee ioyne when vpon pretence of Reformation hee departed from all Churches extant when hee first appeared and consequently how can hee auoide the iust imputation of Schisme But I will not vrge these points here refering my selfe to what hath beene said in Charitie maintained and euen to what will appeare in those very Motiues which induced the Answerer himselfe to leaue Protestatisme and afterward being resolued not to remaine Catholicke as not conducing to his temporall ends hee finally plunged himselfe in Socinianisme seeing full well that his owne Motiues could not bee answered in the grounds of Protestants But it is time to returne and shew that I spoke not without ground in accusing Socinians in generall of such vnchristian doctrines as you haue heard since you will see my word made good in particular Tenets of one of them which at this fit occasion came to my hands and I willingly impart them to the Reader as they were giuen me yet so as in charitie I conceale the partie taxed with them no otherwise then I forbeare to publish the name of the Answearer If guiltinesse driue any one to aske (g) Math. c. 26. v. 25. Nunquid ego sum Rabbi Maister am I he And that hee chance to be answered (h) Ibid. Tu dixisti Thou hast said so the blame and shame must rest on himselfe alone who alone would be discouering himselfe CHAP. III. Diuerse enormous Heresies maintained by a certaine Socinian contrary either to the 39. Articles of the Church of England or to the Faith of all Christians 1. THat the Sonne of God is not begotten from euerlasting of the Father is not very and eternall God of one substance with the Father and that two whole and perfect natures were not ioyned in one person Cont. Art 2. 2. That Christ did not ascend into Heauen in his Bodie with Flesh Bones and all things appertaining to the perfection of mans nature Cont. Art 4. 3. That the Holy Ghost doth not proceede from the Father and the Sonne nor is of one substance with the Father and the Sonne true and eternall God Cont. Art 5. 4. That all the Books of the Old and New Testament as they are commonly receaued are not equall in the authoritie and infallibility of holy Scripture Cont. Art 6. 5. That the three Creeds ought not throughly to bee receaued and belieued for that they may be disproued by most certaine warrants of holy Scripture and that among other falshoods in the Creed of Saint Athanasius this is one that if a man disbelieue any part of that Creed without doubt hee shall perish euerlastingly That the Apostles Creed is no certaine and authenticall Tradition and that the Article of Holy Catholicke Church is not necessarily to be belieued Cont. Art 8. 6. That Originall sinue is not the fault and corruption of the nature of euery man nor deserues Gods wrath and damnation Cont. Art 9. 7. That any man may bee saued by the Law or Sects which hee professeth so that hee bee diligent to frame his life according to that Law and the light of Nature Cont. Art 18. 8. That the Church hath no authority in Coutrouersies of Faith to oblige any mans conscience Cont. Art 20. 9. That the Sacraments bee only Badges or Tokens of Christian mens profession Cont. Art 25.27 And that they bee not necessary to saluation Cont. Catechism Protestant Anglie 10. That the